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1. 06:02 AM - Re: First "Crow Hop" (wade jones)
2. 06:04 AM - Re: Re: 609MJ finally Flies!!!!!!!!!! (wade jones)
3. 07:21 AM - First Flight Currency (DaveG601XL)
4. 07:22 AM - Test Flight Prep (Craig Spainhower)
5. 08:34 AM - Re: RTV (Dave VanLanen)
6. 04:20 PM - Mid top pucker (Bill Naumuk)
7. 05:12 PM - Mid top pucker final (Bill Naumuk)
8. 06:58 PM - Re: Mid top pucker final (LarryMcFarland)
9. 07:07 PM - Re: Mid top pucker final (Afterfxllc@aol.com)
10. 09:36 PM - Re: First Flight Currency (Leo Gates)
11. 10:36 PM - Sanding Compound Curves (Dave VanLanen)
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| Subject: | Re: First "Crow Hop" |
Congratulations Jay ,high CHTs are normal for that much ground activity in
Dallas TX. in August (as if you didn't already know).
Wade Jones South Texas
601XL Franklin 0-235
----- Original Message -----
From: <jaybannist@cs.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 2:20 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: First "Crow Hop"
>
> Lil Bruiser (Corvair powered CH 601XL) has actually broken the surly
> bonds. Today, Scott Severen, test pilot for IndSU Aviation made about a
> dozen high speed taxi runs and about half a dozen "crow hops", about 5
> feet above the runway. He reported good power, and good control. However,
> the CHTs maxed out, so we were reluctant to do an extended test flight.
> Soon as I get that worked out, off we go!
>
> Jay in
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| Subject: | Re: 609MJ finally Flies!!!!!!!!!! |
Congratulations Matt.
Wade Jones South Texas
601XL Franklin 0-235
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From: "TxDave" <dclaytx2@HOTMAIL.COM>
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 12:48 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: 609MJ finally Flies!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Congratulations Matt! Your hard work was worth it. Your Web site was one
> of the first I looked at when I began to think about building my own
> airplane. You've been a real inspiration.
>
> Yeah, that Jab is a smooth running machine.
>
> Best wishes for many happy flights in 609MJ.
>
> Dave Clay
> Temple, TX
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>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=198321#198321
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| Subject: | First Flight Currency |
Dan Dempesy,
On your question of maintaining currency in flying during the project build, here
is my tale. When I stared building my 601XL in 2006, I had not been current
for 21 years. I had gone flying with people over the past two decades, but
not as PIC. About halfway through my build I decided that I had to get off the
dime. I got my biannual and a taildragger endorsement wrapped into one over
the summer of 2007. I did this at a local grass strip in a Champ and a Cub.
I had no real time in low wings so a fretted about deciding which local school
had the most appropriate trainer between a Cherokee, a Tomahawk and a Katana.
In the end, I did not go to any of these. When I was planning on going to
Sun-N-Fun this spring, I found that CAMS Flight in Clearwater had an S-LSA 601XL.
I got on their schedule and flew a checkride on the Thursday of SNF. The
straightforward flight characteristics of this airplane convinced me that I was
ready to fly my own creation with out further time in another low wing. Chris
Heintzs designs are honest like that. I just kept flying the Champ because
it was so much cheaper than the other schools and more of a challenge to land
anyway. Now somebody can flame me for not doing 20 touch and gos in a like
model at the same airfield the day before with all sorts of emergency scenarios,
but I did not. I did go over them in my mind, though. On July 24, 2008 I
flew my new creation and the flight went well. I hope your does also.
Good question Dan, it would be interesting to hear how others prepared too.
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David Gallagher
601 XL, first flight 7/24/08.
In Phase I flight test.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=198560#198560
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| Subject: | Test Flight Prep |
I am fortunate to be able to rent a "SportCruiser" at the airport where I am
completing my XL. It is made by Czech Works, where the 601XL was built for a
while, and incorporated much of the XL design. Elevator authority is
sensitive like the XL and overall handling similar. I will put 10hrs or so
on the Cruiser and find an XL to get an hour or two in. I have been flying a
172 while building, but didn't fly at all this winter. I hope to be test
flying in the next 4 - 6 weeks.
Craig S.
N601XS, almost done!
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Thanks for the quick replies, and the good explanations!
Dave
Do Not Archive
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From: Dave VanLanen [mailto:davevanlanen@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 5:36 PM
Subject: RTV
Can I ask a dumb question? What is "RTV"? I can't find a decent definition
of it on the web.
Thanks,
Dave
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All-
This is what I wound up with. It might look a little prettier if I
lapped the side skin over the mid top, but this follows plans.
All I did was put the side skin on over top of the mid and work aft
to front pushing out the "Bubble", then swapped over/under. I still
haven't doubled up on the rivets, so it might wind up looking better.
Optical illusion in the area between the front hoop and the
longeron- no distortion there, or at least there won't be after
riveting. What looks like garfs in the left side of the picture are duct
tape adhesive marks.
do not archive
Bill
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| Subject: | Mid top pucker final |
All-
OK, here's how I did it. This is assuming you already have the hoop
holes and the formers drilled:
1. Cleco everything you've got holes for. Leave the last foot or so
foreward of the mid top undrilled.
2. Install the cockpit side.
3.Work the "Bubble" out of the mid top aft to front. Drill and Cleco
the center of existing holes afterwards. Pitch 20 or 30 by the time
you're done doubling. Zero gap at the hoop a necessity.
Bill Naumuk
Townville, Pa.
HDS 601MG/Corvair 95%
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| Subject: | Re: Mid top pucker final |
Excellent Bill!
You finally beat it into submission. Congratulations.
Looks really good!
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
do not archive
Bill Naumuk wrote:
> All-
> OK, here's how I did it. This is assuming you already have the
> hoop holes and the formers drilled:
> 1. Cleco everything you've got holes for. Leave the last foot or
> so foreward of the mid top undrilled.
> 2. Install the cockpit side.
> 3.Work the "Bubble" out of the mid top aft to front. Drill and
> Cleco the center of existing holes afterwards. Pitch 20 or 30 by the
> time you're done doubling. Zero gap at the hoop a necessity.
> Bill Naumuk
> Townville, Pa.
> HDS 601MG/Corvair 95%
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Mid top pucker final |
Are you guys using .016 or .025? I had zenith replace my .016 and like the
way .025 comes out much better. I built the first one using .032 and it turned
out really nice but the draw back was I kept the rear skin .016 and it dents
really easy so on the ones I build now I use .025 on the rear and .025 on the
front also.
I am going to split the canopy like the new style on this 601 and might cut
back some of the turtle deck and will also install the new latching system.
Jeff
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight Currency |
Dan, Here is my story. Yours will be different.
I got my private license Dec. of 1951 at age 16. I continued to fly (30
hours) until 1959 when I got married.
Feb. 1959 to Aug 1998 zero hours (raising a family etc.).
Aug. 1998, when I decided to by a kit, I got one hour of dual in a
Cessna 152. After the hour I decided "It is just like riding a bicycle."
I got my kit in Dec. 1998. and finished construction in April 2004. I
started taxi tests and slowly increased speed until I was "short
hopping." This phase lasted about two hours while I conquered heating
problems.
I found the plane so straight forward, stable, no surprises and such
a pure joy to fly (at 5 ft.) that I decided to test fly it myself.
This is where many may disagree. In my case, I was very confident, not
concerned nor nervous. I enlisted the help of my neighbor (another
builder) to man a hand held radio to monitor our airport common freq.
(no tower.) I followed the FAA recommended schedule for test flight.
After one hour I had had no surprises and wanted to get down and do a
post flight to see if anything was loose/leaking. I found none. Damn
glad I did it. Nothing beats putting your own baby in the air. I got
to really wring her out in the 40 hour Phase I test flying.
--
Leo Gates
N601Z - CH601HDS TDO
Rotax 912UL
DaveG601XL wrote:
>
> Dan Dempesy,
>
> On your question of maintaining currency in flying during the project build,
here is my tale. When I stared building my 601XL in 2006, I had not been current
for 21 years. I had gone flying with people over the pasttwo decades, but
not as PIC. About halfway through my build I decided that I had to get off the
dime. I got my biannual and a taildragger endorsement wrapped into one over
the summer of 2007. I did this at a local grass strip in a Champ and a Cub.
I had no real time in low wings so a fretted about deciding which local school
had the most appropriate trainer between a Cherokee, a Tomahawk and a Katana.
In the end, I did not go toany of these. When I was planning on going to
Sun-N-Fun this spring, I found that CAMS Flight in Clearwater had an S-LSA 601XL.
I got on their schedule and flew a checkride on the Thursday of SNF. The
straightforward flight characteristics of this airplane convinced me that I was
ready to fly my own creation with out further tim
!
> e in another low wing. Chris Heintzs designs are honest likethat. I just kept
flying the Champ because it was so much cheaper than the other schools and
more of a challenge to land anyway. Now somebody can flame me for not doing
20 touch and gos in a like model at the same airfield the day before with all
sorts of emergency scenarios, butI did not. I did go over them in my mind, though.
On July 24, 2008 I flew my new creation and the flight went well. I hope
your does also.
>
> Good question Dan, it would be interesting to hear how others prepared too.
>
> --------
> David Gallagher
> 601 XL, first flight 7/24/08.
> In Phase I flight test.
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Sanding Compound Curves |
I'm glad that I am not building a composite aircraft! I think I have spent
more time on the fiberglass tail tips than on any other task to-date. The
fit of the FTTs were far enough off that I could not correct the fit using a
heat gun, especially near the front of the stabilizer. So I followed
another builder's suggestion and used SuperFil (a great product!) to build
them up to the point where I now have a great fit. However, after "finish"
sanding and priming them, I found that I have a few minor longitudinal
"ripples" in the surface. I need to smooth these out or they will really
show when the FTTs are finish painted later. Due to the compound curves, I
don't think it will work to just use a piece of hand-held sandpaper, or a
regular sanding block, as I may not remove material from the right areas.
Does anyone have any "tricks of the trade" they can share with me for
sanding out these ripples and getting to a smooth contour, without having to
create some sort of fancy sanding tool?
Dave Van Lanen
601XL - finishing tail and getting ready to start wings
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