Zenith-List Digest Archive

Fri 08/22/08


Total Messages Posted: 11



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 07:16 AM - Re: Crash (ZodiacGermany)
     2. 08:35 AM - First Flight Pictures of N73EX (George Race)
     3. 09:02 AM - 601/650 Horizontal Tail Builders video (Jon Croke)
     4. 09:21 AM - Re: First Flight Pictures of N73EX (Gary Ray)
     5. 10:58 AM - Re: First Flight Pictures of N73EX (TxDave)
     6. 12:18 PM - 601 XL plan upgrade to 650 set $125.00 (Andrewlieser)
     7. 04:20 PM - Canopy flashing? (Dr. Andrew Elliott)
     8. 04:24 PM - Re: First Flight Pictures of N73EX (leinad)
     9. 05:17 PM - Re: Canopy flashing? (LarryMcFarland)
    10. 05:47 PM - Re: Canopy flashing? (Bryan Martin)
    11. 07:57 PM - Re: First Flight Pictures of N73EX (Ron Lendon)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:16:08 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Crash
    From: "ZodiacGermany" <ZodiacGermany@yahoo.com>
    I visited the Zenith booth at Oshkosh and was impressed with the 650 and new latch. I will for sure update to new canopy and latch. From what I gather, the latch is much over designed. The bar connecting the two latches is very tougher. it seems that Zenith put a lot of thought into this. As to the Dennis crash, I cannot understand for life of me why anyone would want to open the canopy when aircraft was flying fine. That is quite unbelievable. Thank god that they landed without more damage. I just cannot understand what pilot was thinking. Open the canopy in any fast aircraft and you will be in trouble I think. There have been accidents in Germany with other type aircraft with canopy opening. However, I have never heard of anyone purposely opening the canopy in flight. Unbelievable. One thing that I find good is that Jay stated that his side of the canopy was open about 2 inches. This is good to know because if I forget to latch one side of my canopy properly, I can reassured that the other side will not open. I do not know if I can say that with my present canopy latch system that was built by Czech company. I hear reports of other Zodiac aircraft in Europe flying very well with canopy open. It sees that its all about flying speed slow and focusing on the flying. Not trying to close canopy and forgetting how to fly. Unbelievable. Again, thank God that accident was not worse. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=199907#199907


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    Time: 08:35:55 AM PST US
    From: "George Race" <mykitairplane@mrrace.com>
    Subject: First Flight Pictures of N73EX
    Below is the address of pictures of my first flight in N73EX. Building and flying your own airplane is an experience of a lifetime, and a life long dream coming true for me. Barb, my wife, says I can't seem to get the smile off of my face! The address for flight pictures is: http://www.mykitairplane.com/chat/ If you want to see pictures of the building process you can go to: http://www.mykitairplane.com/MyCH701 Thanks for letting me share this with all of you, friends are so great to have. George N73EX


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    Time: 09:02:05 AM PST US
    From: "Jon Croke" <Jon@joncroke.com>
    Subject: 601/650 Horizontal Tail Builders video
    Its now ready! The 601XL / CH650 Horizontal Tail double DVD video volume from HomebuiltHELP is now being shipped. Info is available at: http://homebuilthelp.com/CH601XL/Htail.htm The last major assembly to be published is for the Wings... and we expect this out in about a week or so. Thanks to all! Jon


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    Time: 09:21:58 AM PST US
    From: "Gary Ray" <davgray@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: First Flight Pictures of N73EX
    George Congratulations: Your aircraft and airstrip look really nice. I would like to have the airstrip in my back yard also, especially with the 701. Gary Ray , 601XL, WW Corvair davgray@sbcglobal.net ----- Original Message ----- From: George Race To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 11:34 AM Subject: Zenith-List: First Flight Pictures of N73EX Below is the address of pictures of my first flight in N73EX. Building and flying your own airplane is an experience of a lifetime, and a life long dream coming true for me. Barb, my wife, says I can't seem to get the smile off of my face! The address for flight pictures is: http://www.mykitairplane.com/chat/ If you want to see pictures of the building process you can go to: http://www.mykitairplane.com/MyCH701 Thanks for letting me share this with all of you, friends are so great to have. George N73EX


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    Time: 10:58:06 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: First Flight Pictures of N73EX
    From: "TxDave" <dclaytx2@HOTMAIL.COM>
    Way to go, George! Looks like you did an outstanding job building N73EX. Keep on smiling. Dave Clay Temple, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=199948#199948


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    Time: 12:18:57 PM PST US
    Subject: 601 XL plan upgrade to 650 set $125.00
    From: "Andrewlieser" <Andrewlieser@gmail.com>
    This may have already been discussed but I've been off the board due to life for a while but I just spoke to Zenith and they told me anyone interested in upgrading their set of 601XL to 650 plans need only pay $125 and email them they would inform you on how do it. Since I have only (almost) completed the rudder $125 is money well spent for the experience and lessons learned! Again sorry if this is old news but I thought it worth a post. -------- Andrew Lieser S/N 6-7045 http://websites.expercraft.com/andrewlieser Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=199958#199958


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    Time: 04:20:34 PM PST US
    From: "Dr. Andrew Elliott" <a.s.elliott@cox.net>
    Subject: Canopy flashing?
    Perhaps I missed it in the plans or the builder's guides, but I can't find any information on how to affix the outer flashing to the canopy at the fore and aft ends. In my plane, because of the curvature of the fuselage, the fore and aft ends of the flashing, after being cut to match the line of the canopy, stick out quite a bit from the side of the fuselage. What is the "good" way to get these ends to adhere to the canopy line? I can carefully bend the sheet so it is pretty close, but it still seems to me that I need some kind of attachment, perhaps a 3/32 rivet, at the pointed corners to avoid problems. Other ideas, comments? Thanks, Andy Elliott, Mesa, AZ N601GE (registered) 601XL/TD, Corvair, finishing...


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    Time: 04:24:45 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: First Flight Pictures of N73EX
    From: "leinad" <leinad@hughes.net>
    George, Way TO Go! And thanks for all the encouragement you'll supplied in our Monday evening chats. You built and flew you're own plane man! Dan Dempsey do not archive -------- Scratch building XL with Corvair Engine Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=199987#199987


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    Time: 05:17:53 PM PST US
    From: LarryMcFarland <larry@macsmachine.com>
    Subject: Re: Canopy flashing?
    Hi Andy, The forward end of the flashing can be secured by a small aluminum rivet in the same fashion as the current 650 canopy, or you can use a recess head screw with a nylock nut on the inside. I curved the trail edge enough to get it to pull in and it's held with adhesive. On the trail edge that slides against the rear top skin and bow, I placed a patch of felt fabric to keep the knife edge from dragging on the skin edge and it saves the paint! The rear rubber trim captures a small segment of the flashing as well. http://www.macsmachine.com/images/canopy/full/trim&flashing.gif http://www.macsmachine.com/images/canopy/full/flashends.gif http://www.macsmachine.com/images/canopy/full/canopyncowl.gif Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com Dr. Andrew Elliott wrote: > Perhaps I missed it in the plans or the builder's guides, but I can't > find any information on how to affix the outer flashing to the canopy > at the fore and aft ends. > > In my plane, because of the curvature of the fuselage, the fore and > aft ends of the flashing, after being cut to match the line of the > canopy, stick out quite a bit from the side of the fuselage. > > What is the "good" way to get these ends to adhere to the canopy line? > > I can carefully bend the sheet so it is pretty close, but it still > seems to me that I need some kind of attachment, perhaps a 3/32 > rivet, at the pointed corners to avoid problems. > > Other ideas, comments? > > Thanks, > Andy Elliott, Mesa, AZ > N601GE (registered) > 601XL/TD, Corvair, finishing... > * > *


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    Time: 05:47:23 PM PST US
    From: Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Canopy flashing?
    I glued the rear of mine down with the same weatherstrip adhesive I used to glue the rubber trim on and also glued the trim on over the edge of the flashing. This might work on the front also, but mine has an aluminum flashing along the front edge that is overlapped over the side flashing. On Aug 22, 2008, at 7:14 PM, Dr. Andrew Elliott wrote: > Perhaps I missed it in the plans or the builder's guides, but I > can't find any information on how to affix the outer flashing to the > canopy at the fore and aft ends. > > In my plane, because of the curvature of the fuselage, the fore and > aft ends of the flashing, after being cut to match the line of the > canopy, stick out quite a bit from the side of the fuselage. > > What is the "good" way to get these ends to adhere to the canopy line? > > I can carefully bend the sheet so it is pretty close, but it still > seems to me that I need some kind of attachment, perhaps a 3/32 > rivet, at the pointed corners to avoid problems. > > Other ideas, comments? > > -- Bryan Martin N61BM, CH 601 XL, RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive. do not archive.


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    Time: 07:57:28 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: First Flight Pictures of N73EX
    From: "Ron Lendon" <rlendon@comcast.net>
    Bravo George! -------- Ron Lendon, Clinton Township, MI Corvair Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder ;-) http://www.mykitlog.com/rlendon Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 0030#200030




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