---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 09/02/08: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:34 AM - Re: Homegrown Boroscope (ashontz) 2. 04:41 AM - Re: Leaking VDO fuel sender seals (Gary Ray) 3. 08:54 AM - Re: CorvAircraft> Sad news --WW forward (Gig Giacona) 4. 09:06 AM - Re: ARTEX 110-4 ELT (Gig Giacona) 5. 01:09 PM - Re: Problems with riveting the 701 spars... (Maarten Versteeg) 6. 03:27 PM - 601XL plans for sale:( (Andrewlieser) 7. 03:49 PM - Jabiru Engine Fall Sale (Pete Krotje) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:34:56 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Homegrown Boroscope From: "ashontz" Yeah, I'd like to see it in action too. There's a bunch of stuff I could have used one of these for. Depending on the size of the camera element, it would probably work even better mounted in the end of a flexible hose. -------- Andy Shontz do not archive CH601XL - Corvair www.mykitlog.com/ashontz Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 2113#202113 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:41:42 AM PST US From: "Gary Ray" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Leaking VDO fuel sender seals John I misspelled the egauges addresses in the original post Here is a better description and the corrected source address: Part No: 226-053 Notes: Neoprene, 2 1/8" bolt circle (54mm). By VDO. Actual page address of sender and gasket http://www.egauges.com/vdo_send.asp?Sender=10_180ohms Gary Ray, 601XL, WW Corvair 2700 cc davgray@sbcglobal.net ----- Original Message ----- From: John Smith To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 2:06 AM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Leaking VDO fuel sender seals Do you have the part# for the seals? I tried finding the seals but not sure which ones would fit. ----- Original Message ---- From: Gary Ray To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, September 1, 2008 9:44:05 PM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Leaking VDO fuel sender seals I had a problem with the VDO Neoprene Fuel Sender Seals on my 601XL. I originally sealed them with a thin coat of Sealube and I had no problems for the first 1/1/2 years using 100LL exclusively. Then I placed 92 octane auto fuel that contained ethanol of 10% into my tanks. The station assured me there was no ethanol in their fuel. I should have tested it prior to pouring it into the tanks. I tested it after it was in the tanks. I thought that I could burn this one tank off as long as I remained below 3000 Alt I should not have any real problems. It was in my tanks for 2 weeks before my fuel filler caps were becoming very difficult to remove, the fuel drain valves began to leak, and the VDO Fuel Senders began to leak. I drained the tanks and tried to reseal the tank senders without any luck so I pulled them from the normal access holes which turned out to be much easier than I expected. I have attached a picture of the total destruction of the gasket material. These are the original seals that come with the VDO Fuel Senders. I found new VDO seals available from http://www.Eguages.com for about $5 each. Whether it was the ethanol or some other additive maybe this report will save time, money, or increase safety. Additional pictures are on line @ http://picasaweb.google.com/Papawobo/trouble Gary Ray davgray@sbcglobal.net 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:54:56 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: CorvAircraft> Sad news --WW forward From: "Gig Giacona" davgray(at)sbcglobal.net wrote: > --- The post didn't make it to the web forum so I'll repost... >Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 23:13:34 EDT >From: WilliamTCA@aol.com >Subject: CorvAircraft> Sad news >To: corvaircraft@mylist.net >Message-ID: >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > >Friends, > >I just got a call from a friend who had seen the story of Ken's accident. I >read the news story, and some of the comments. It just left me feeling sick. I > had just spent an hour in Ken's company at the Arlington airshow. He had not >yet flown his plane. It was the first time I ever met him in person. I had >spoken with him on the phone and e-mailed many times, and as photos showed, he > was technical and did very nice work. Meeting him in person showed a much >more animated and positive guy than e-mail or even the phone conveyed. He had a >lot of photos of his plane with him, and he was very interested in flying >his plane down to California after the time was flown off. His personality >makes it very hard to think of him as gone. > >The newspaper report in which some person alleged he was doing aerobatics in >the pattern of an airport shows how low the standards of local journalism >can be. The last line in Teddy Roosevelt's "The Arena" speech is "If he fails, >at least he fails while daring greatly, so his place shall never be with >those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory or defeat." Usually >irresponsible writing makes me mad, but in this case I just think that Ken's values >could not even be remotely understood by the writer. > >My heart goes out to Ken's family and close friends. Even though flying >might have been one of the great joys in his life, today that will likely be >little comfort to the people who will miss him the most. Teddy Roosevelt's son >Quentin was shot down and killed in the final months of WWI. All of Teddy's >personal philosophy failed to lessen his anguish, and he died emotionally broken >six months later. He had the unbearable burden of knowing that his sons had >tried to live up to their father's philosophy. I certainly don't expect words >written 98 years ago to mean much to those who grieve for Ken today. >However, hopefully in time they will help to put his choices in context and make >the loss of him somewhat more bearable. > >As always, actual investigators place very low value on "eyewitness" >reports. In the long run, we may get more information from official sources. Until >then, I would like to thank everyone in advance for not speculating on Ken's >tragic accident. If anyone on this list knew Ken personally and would like to >share anything about what kind of a person he was, I would like to hear from >them. > >Will someone who is also on the 601 list please forward this to that group. > >Thank you. >William Wynne >5000-18 HWY 17 #247 >Orange Park, FL 32003 USA >_http://FlyCorvair.com/hangar.html_ (http://www.flycorvair.com/hangar.html) >- August Update 2008 -------- W.R. "Gig" Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 2152#202152 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:06:46 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: ARTEX 110-4 ELT From: "Gig Giacona" alex_001 wrote: > Hello, can anyone help me with an installation manual for an ARTEX ELT 110-4 > Thanks http://www.artex.net/documents/getFile.php?fileid=415&filename=570-1015_Manual.pdf -------- W.R. "Gig" Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 2153#202153 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:09:30 PM PST US From: Maarten Versteeg Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Problems with riveting the 701 spars... Hello Ryan, I did something similar and the spars came out straight. I took one of the rivet squeezer cups (smooth chromed) and drilled a matching hole in a counterweight steel plate. Then the spar laying horizontal supported in a number of places with the rivet head in the cup. I actually used a regular hammer (with a polished surface) to hammer a shop head on the back of the rivets. I only had a few (~5) cases where this failed when the rivet head jumped out of the cup and was laying on the edge of the cup when I hit the rivet. Besides that the process worked very well and the rivets came out very reproducible. Maarten, plans building 601xl, nearly done with the second wing. > Time: 12:29:30 PM PST US > From: ROBERT SCEPPA > Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Problems with riveting the 701 spars... > > >> Ryan, I laid my spars flat on the table and I back riveted the rivets >> by hitting the end of the rivet with the rivet gun. I made a hole inside >> of a flat piece of bar stock and set the rivet head inside. Some of the >> rivets I had to redo, but most all of them came out ok. Specially when >> you have to rivet the doublers.. Good luck, RS > > > --- On Mon, 9/1/08, Ryan Vechinski wrote: > >> From: Ryan Vechinski >> Subject: Zenith-List: Problems with riveting the 701 spars... >> To: "zenith-list@matronics.com" >> Date: Monday, September 1, 2008, 6:56 PM >> I finally made the jump and started to rivet my wing spars >> for my 701. All seemed to be going well, and I've got >> about 6 rivets in one spar. I started from the center, all >> rivets look good, but when I look at my spar from the end, >> it is starting to bend in towards the formed side of the >> rivet. I can tell that it is bending at the rivet >> locations. It is really noticeable, and I hesitate to go >> any further until I figure out why. Does anyone have any ideas as to why my spars are starting >> to bend in? I shimmed everything straight before I set any >> of the rivets (down to 1mm). You can see the blocks in the >> pictures. Any insight would be helpful. > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:27:22 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: 601XL plans for sale:( From: "Andrewlieser" My 601XL plans are up for sale as of today. An add is on barnstormers.com if anyone is interested. They come with full printed color assembly guide and CD ROM. Any reasonable offer gets them. You guys have been great and for the time being will live vicariously through you all. Thanks Andrew -------- Andrew Lieser S/N 6-7045 http://websites.expercraft.com/andrewlieser Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 2195#202195 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:49:55 PM PST US From: "Pete Krotje" Subject: Zenith-List: Jabiru Engine Fall Sale Jabiru USA has reduced the cost of the Jabiru engines for September and October. We have found a better exchange rate and Zenith builders can get the benefit. 2200 Engine now $12,900.00 (was $13,900) 3300 Engine now $17,400.00 (was $18,400) For details call Dana at 931-680-2800. Firewall forward kits are available for CH601 and now Ch701 as well. 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