---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 09/07/08: 15 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:41 AM - Re: Any Xl builders in NewZealand? (Ian McClelland) 2. 03:13 AM - Re: Any Xl builders in NewZealand? (chris Sinfield) 3. 07:30 AM - Becker Transponder/Dynon Combo (Geoff Heap) 4. 07:46 AM - Re: Becker Transponder/Dynon Combo (Jay Maynard) 5. 08:06 AM - Re: Zenith601-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 09/06/08 (Jeff) 6. 08:49 AM - Re: Leaking VDO fuel sender seals (Gig Giacona) 7. 08:51 AM - Re: Wire tension gage (Gig Giacona) 8. 09:06 AM - Re: Re: Wire tension gage (steve) 9. 12:44 PM - Rotax Engine Mount for 601 For Sale (Wingrider) 10. 01:04 PM - A Milestone (Gig Giacona) 11. 02:31 PM - Re: A Milestone (cookwithgas) 12. 04:26 PM - NZ XL builders (Noel Anderson) 13. 07:38 PM - Re: A Milestone (annken100) 14. 08:31 PM - Re: A Milestone (Jay Maynard) 15. 10:32 PM - Re: A Milestone (TxDave) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:41:12 AM PST US From: Ian McClelland Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Any Xl builders in NewZealand? Yes there are a few of us building in New Zealand. I have a 601 XL about 75% complete here in Blenheim. Ian McClelland Plans building Working on control cables. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:13:16 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Any Xl builders in NewZealand? From: "chris Sinfield" your kidding.. I just spent 5 days at Woodbourne, with an Aussie C130 Hercules. talk about in your neighborhood. We must keep in contact fro next time. Chris. Sinfield(at) zeta.org.au Do not archive. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 3021#203021 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:30:15 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Becker Transponder/Dynon Combo From: "Geoff Heap" This posted on the 701 list also but I could get good information here too. Ive visited this subject before but still have not purchased a Transponder yet. Now it's holding me up and I need to finish my Panel. I have no panel space for the standard length instruments (6.0 x 2..0 approx), so I'm looking at getting a Becker because of its square shape (2.4 x 2.4). My main concern would be hooking it to my Dynon for altitude encoding. Dynon assures me that the worst case would be that I need their altitude encoder converter, not too expensive. So 1. I'm looking for any comments on Becker units, good or bad. 2. Anyone have a Dynon/becker combo. 3. Any comments on S mode requirements. They will be mandatory as I understand it in 2009 or 2010. The A and C mode Becker is about $1800 and the S mode is about $2400. I'm not concerned about the price. I'm ready to bite the bullet on that. I just wanna get this thing finished and Fly. Thanks Guys .Geoff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 3041#203041 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:46:04 AM PST US From: Jay Maynard Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Becker Transponder/Dynon Combo On Sun, Sep 07, 2008 at 07:29:31AM -0700, Geoff Heap wrote: > 3. Any comments on S mode requirements. They will be mandatory as I > understand it in 2009 or 2010. The A and C mode Becker is about $1800 and > the S mode is about $2400. That's better than the Garmin price: the GTX327 is about $2000, the GTX330 is about $4500. Are you in Europe? I'm not aware of any move toward mandatory mode S outside of there. I went ahead and put a GTX330 in my airplane, but that was more for the traffic display on the GNS430W than anything else. -- Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net Fairmont, MN (FRM) (Yes, that's me!) AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:06:21 AM PST US From: "Jeff " Subject: Zenith-List: RE: Zenith601-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 09/06/08 Is it just me, or is having the gascolator hanging down in the channel below the fuselage right below my knees not a wierd location? By is it not up on the firewall like on most planes? It is not the low point of the fuel system anyway (the tank drains are). ..... I just couldn't put it down there hanging out under the fuselage. Mine is in the traditional place on the right side of the firewall forward of the firewall. It is in a local low point of the LE tank only fuel system. The sumps on the tanks are the other low points. My system is similar to the Czech Aircraft Works fuel system design with the fuel selector on the center console as a local high point in the system. Jeff Davidson ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:49:03 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Leaking VDO fuel sender seals From: "Gig Giacona" Patrick, I don't have a clue if the system I have is ethanol safe. That's why the stuff worries me so much. Can the system be made safe? Of course it can but there are just so many things other than just the fuel lines I'm not willing to take the chance and I certainly don't what to test every single item in the fuel system. This thread alone has had people with VDO sender seals failing and people that have had fuel caps that are giving them problems. -------- W.R. "Gig" Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 3055#203055 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:51:08 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Wire tension gage From: "Gig Giacona" Don't forget to check with fellow local builders and local A & P's. They have tension gages. -------- W.R. "Gig" Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 3056#203056 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:06:42 AM PST US From: "steve" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Wire tension gage Right on.... I just like having my own tools..... Kinda like toys...... SW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gig Giacona" Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 8:50 AM Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Wire tension gage > > Don't forget to check with fellow local builders and local A & P's. They > have tension gages. > > -------- > W.R. "Gig" Giacona > 601XL Under Construction > See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 3056#203056 > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:44:36 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Rotax Engine Mount for 601 For Sale From: "Wingrider" I have a Rotax Engine Mount for sale for a Zenith 601. I purchased a barely started 601HDS kit a couple of years ago and this engine mount came with it. I am going with a Corvair so I have no use for it. I'll sell it to the highest bidder. If no one here is interested I'll post it on eBay. You can view pictures at http://webpages.charter.net/tnchapterg/MotorMount.htm. If you're interested you can email me at rwhitt3-at-hotmail.com. You will have to change the -at- to @ for the proper email address. -------- Rich Whittington Tullahoma, TN Zenith 601HDS Under Construction Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 3077#203077 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 01:04:44 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: A Milestone From: "Gig Giacona" 5 years and 11 months from the time I started the construction of what will become N601WR I fit the last piece of the fuselage, the cowling. While they are all attached the airframe is pretty much complete. That's working pretty much weekends only and taking pretty much two, one year breaks. -------- W.R. "Gig" Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 3081#203081 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0078_797.jpg ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 02:31:30 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: A Milestone From: "cookwithgas" Well done Gig! With just 90% to go you should be flying in no time. I plan to fly to the Zenith open house on September 20th. If you are not finished by then and want a ride in mine you are welcome to some right-seat time. I like the two-piece nose-bowl. Good work, Scott Laughlin www.cooknwithgas.com 601XL/Corvair 109 hours Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 3090#203090 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 04:26:59 PM PST US From: "Noel Anderson" Subject: Zenith-List: NZ XL builders Hi Team Yes there are several XLs down here... Talk to Anton at info@aerosport.co.nz Regards Noel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zenith-List Digest Server" Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 6:58 PM Subject: Zenith-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 09/06/08 > * > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > > Today's complete Zenith-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. 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(chris Sinfield) > 4. 08:01 PM - Hangar Clean Out Day.... (Don Honabach) > > > ________________________________ Message 1 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 06:32:25 AM PST US > From: LarryMcFarland > Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Leaking VDO fuel sender seals > > > Steve, > I made my cable tension gage 5 years ago and it still provides accurate > direct measurement > for cable tension from 10 to 40 lbs. You could build one for less than > $25. > See link, > www.macsmachine.com/html/tjhcabletools.htm > > Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com > > steve wrote: >> >> Sorry I know this is off topic but::: >> Wire tension gauge? I dont want to buy a WTG at $899. What are you >> guys doing to calibrate the tension on your control cables. I found >> sailboat stay wire gauges on the internet. Costing $99. I asked the >> dealer about using them on airplanes and was told that it would work >> ok but the gauge is for stainless steel wire and the reads would be off. >> I can handle $99 not the $899. >> >> SW >> 601XL > > > ________________________________ Message 2 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 06:56:32 AM PST US > From: "steve" > Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Leaking VDO fuel sender seals > > > Thanks to all that responded. > Larry McFarland, I purchased your tow bar and nose wheel collar for my XL > and I love the thing. Your quality and prices are absolutely the best. > I would buy a tension gauge in a heartbeat if you produce them... > How about a drawing (plans) that you could sell????? > > Steve Weston > N 9554 Z > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "LarryMcFarland" > Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2008 6:31 AM > Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Leaking VDO fuel sender seals > > >> >> Steve, >> I made my cable tension gage 5 years ago and it still provides accurate >> direct measurement >> for cable tension from 10 to 40 lbs. You could build one for less than >> $25. >> See link, >> www.macsmachine.com/html/tjhcabletools.htm >> >> Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com >> >> steve wrote: >>> >>> Sorry I know this is off topic but::: >>> Wire tension gauge? I dont want to buy a WTG at $899. What are you >>> guys >>> doing to calibrate the tension on your control cables. I found sailboat >>> stay wire gauges on the internet. Costing $99. I asked the dealer >>> about >>> using them on airplanes and was told that it would work ok but the gauge >>> is for stainless steel wire and the reads would be off. >>> I can handle $99 not the $899. >>> >>> SW >>> 601XL >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 3 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 02:08:25 PM PST US > Subject: Zenith-List: Any Xl builders in NewZealand? > From: "chris Sinfield" > > > Hi > Just got back from a trip to NZ and wondered if there were any NZ XL > builders or > flyer's I could have visited? > chris. > Do not archive > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 2941#202941 > > > ________________________________ Message 4 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 08:01:14 PM PST US > Subject: Zenith-List: Hangar Clean Out Day.... > From: "Don Honabach" > > > Hangar clean out day continues: > > I've put the following items up for sale on eBay... > > All these items are essentially new units (zero time). They were > purchased as I was building my plane and now I don't need. > > The Stratus EA-81 and FWF Kit has no reserve - needless to say, I'll be > sleeping on the couch tonight! > > Stratus EA-81 and Zenith 601 Firewall Forward Kit > http://tinyurl.com/6n9wxo > > Apollo GX65 - Panel Mount Combo GPS/Comm unit > http://tinyurl.com/5u772b > > Rocky Mountain's microMonitor (Engine + More Monitor) > http://tinyurl.com/5lg2ku > > Dynon EFIS-D10 - Glass Cockput > http://tinyurl.com/5h9fvh > > Don Honabach > Zodiac 601HDS > Tempe, AZ > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 07:38:04 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: A Milestone From: "annken100" Great job Gig! It looks like you and I are at the same stage of construction because your plane looks just like mine. I can already smell the 100LL burning. Ken -------- 601 XL / Corvair Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 3119#203119 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0419_123.jpg ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 08:31:53 PM PST US From: Jay Maynard Subject: Re: Zenith-List: A Milestone On Sun, Sep 07, 2008 at 01:04:22PM -0700, Gig Giacona wrote: > 5 years and 11 months from the time I started the construction of what > will become N601WR I fit the last piece of the fuselage, the cowling. > While they are all attached the airframe is pretty much complete. Nice. Now comes the other 90% of the work...systems, panel, interior, paint... Still, it's got to be a great feeling to reach that milestone. -- Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net Fairmont, MN (FRM) (Yes, that's me!) AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 10:32:56 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: A Milestone From: "TxDave" Very Nice work, Gig. I may be making a trip to Arkansas this fall. I would love to drop by your hanger. 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