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1. 06:10 AM - Ride to ZAC open house? (kkinney)
2. 07:33 AM - Circuit breakers (wade jones)
3. 07:46 AM - Re: Circuit breakers (Beckman, Rick)
4. 07:50 AM - Re: Circuit breakers (John Davis)
5. 07:51 AM - Re: Circuit breakers (Bill Steer)
6. 09:08 AM - Re: Circuit breakers (Gig Giacona)
7. 09:29 AM - Re: A couple questions about the 650 or XL (Gig Giacona)
8. 12:48 PM - Re: Circuit breakers (george may)
9. 01:03 PM - Fuel management (Chuck Deiterich)
10. 02:55 PM - Re: Circuit breakers (Gig Giacona)
11. 03:32 PM - Re: Circuit breakers (George Race)
12. 03:42 PM - Re: Circuit breakers (wade jones)
13. 05:35 PM - Re: Circuit breakers (leinad)
14. 06:57 PM - Re: Re: Circuit breakers (burbby)
15. 09:19 PM - Re: Re: Circuit breakers (Craig Payne)
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| Subject: | Ride to ZAC open house? |
I plan on going to the ZAC open house on 9/20. Is there anyone with an empty seat
passing through Cincinnati, OH?
Regards,
Kevin Kinney
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| Subject: | Circuit breakers |
Hello group ,I am working on my instrument panel and need some advise on
what type of circuit breakers most of you are using . Is there an
alternative to the more expensive aircraft type .
Thanks Wade Jones South Texas
601XL Franklin 0-235
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| Subject: | Circuit breakers |
Wade, you might want to check with Marc Dickensheets at
www.whiteindustries.com <http://www.whiteindustries.com/> . They
usually have a big assortment of breakers
Rick
Do not archive.
Hello group ,I am working on my instrument panel and need some advise on
what type of circuit breakers most of you are using . Is there an
alternative to the more expensive aircraft type .
Thanks Wade Jones South Texas
601XL Franklin 0-235
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| Subject: | Re: Circuit breakers |
Hi Wade,
One much less costly alternative is to use fuses instead of circuit
breakers. That's what I have used in my plane. Bob Nuckolls at
Aeroelectric Connection is a fan of fuses, here's an article he wrote in
Sport Plane aviation: http://www.aeroelectric.com/articles/fuseorcb.html
John Davis
Burnsville, NC (7A8 Morrison Field/Avery County)
601XL - Jab 3300
wade jones wrote:
> Hello group ,I am working on my instrument panel and need some advise
> on what type of circuit breakers most of you are using . Is there an
> alternative to the more expensive aircraft type
> . Thanks Wade Jones
> South Texas
> 601XL Franklin 0-235
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| Subject: | Re: Circuit breakers |
Per the recommendation of Aeroelectric, and to save weight, I used fuses
for everything but the alternator field circuit in my 601HD/Stratus.
Bill
wade jones wrote:
> Hello group ,I am working on my instrument panel and need some advise
> on what type of circuit breakers most of you are using . Is there an
> alternative to the more expensive aircraft type
> . Thanks Wade Jones
> South Texas
> 601XL Franklin 0-235
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| Subject: | Re: Circuit breakers |
I putting together an order now and B & C seems to have the best price to quality
ratio I've found. bandc.biz is the website.
wjones(at)brazoriainet.co wrote:
> Hello group ,I am working on my instrument panel and need some advise on what
type of circuit breakers most of you are using . Is there an alternative to
the more expensive aircraft type . Thanks
Wade Jones South Texas
> 601XL Franklin 0-235
>
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W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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| Subject: | Re: A couple questions about the 650 or XL |
Welcome,
Funny that you should ask that question. I was just about to write a post asking
the question, "Was the 650 a good idea for Zenith?"
The reason I was going to ask the question is because in light of the proposed
new rules replacing the old 51% rule the 650 kit doesn't fall under the pre-approval
that the 601XL does. The quick-build kit for the 601XL is grandfathered
in but if they were to sell a 650 quick-build kit it doesn't look like it would
qualify under the new check list system. I'm not even 100% sure a slow build
kit, if made like the current 601 kits are made, would qualify under the proposed
checklist system.
As far as your concerns with structural issues. Glance through what has been written
in this forum. (There is plenty.) But really pay attention to what people
who know what they are talking about have written. (Chris Heintz, William Wynne)
And as Carlos mentioned there is the ZBAG forum.
fresnor wrote:
> Dear community,...
>
> 1) Do you know if the 650 will have a quickbuild kit anytime soon? If not,
would it be better to go with the XL and 650 updates? or maybe just slow build
650?
>
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W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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| Subject: | Circuit breakers |
Wade--
All good suggestions so far. Another alternative is the EXP Power distrib
ution panel. It uses thermal resettable breakers along with main breaker an
d power distribution on a PC board
George May
601XL 912s
From: wjones@brazoriainet.comTo: zenith-list@matronics.comSubject: Zenith-L
ist: Circuit breakersDate: Tue=2C 9 Sep 2008 09:29:27 -0500
Hello group =2CI am working on my instrument panel and need some advise on
what type of circuit breakers most of you are using . Is there an alternati
ve to the more expensive aircraft type . Thanks
Wade Jones South Texas601XL Franklin 0-235
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I have two wing tanks and no header tank. I have a cutoff valve for
each tank. I will take off on a tank as long as it is over half full.
I switch to the lesser full tank for cruise. I land with the fullest
tank if one is less than half full. Unporting the fuel tank pickup
during nose down and especially a side slip for a crosswind landing is
very unlikely. Only when one tank has been filled to the brim, will I
open both valves to transfer a bit of fuel to the lesser tank.
Switching in flight both valves are open, but only momentarily.
Chuck D.
N701TX
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| Subject: | Re: Circuit breakers |
They are kinda cool. So cool in fact I bought one. I then started looking at my
power and switch needs and realized it wasn't the best option for my plane. I
sold here to somebody.
gfmjr_20(at)HOTMAIL.COM wrote:
> Wade--
> All good suggestions so far. Another alternative is the EXP Power distribution
panel. It uses thermal resettable breakers along with main breaker and power
distribution on a PC board
>
> George May
> 601XL 912s
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W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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| Subject: | Circuit breakers |
Hi Wade:
I ended up with 11 different circuit breakers in my panel and I did not
combine any pieces of equipment. They range in size from 1 amp to 15 amp.
I felt it was much more efficient, and of course costly, to use breakers
rather than fuses. Nothing to me is worse than trying to find the right
size spare and insert it in the socket, especially while in flight.
I did want aircraft quality breakers of either the push-pull type or
push-push type. Both types have an indicating ring when tripped that you
can easily see on the panel.
I ended up purchasing them from Allied Electronics after a lot of looking
for a good price on the web. Depending on their amperage they average
around $15.00 each. The ones that I am using are the push-push type of
breaker. Here is a link to one of the spec sheets:
http://www.alliedelec.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?SKU=6770197
<http://www.alliedelec.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?SKU=6770197&MPN=2-5700-
IG1-K10-DD-2A&R=6770197&SEARCH=6770197&DESC=2-5700-IG1-K10-DD-2A>
&MPN=2-5700-IG1-K10-DD-2A&R=6770197&SEARCH=6770197&DESC=2-5700-IG1-K10-DD-2A
That particular one is a 2A breaker, and they do have screw terminals, which
was another on of my requirements.
Another place to look that I know has a lot of great panel building stuff,
including breakers, is SteinAir. They have very good prices on a lot of
stuff including the Grand Rapids EIS. Check out their web site at:
http://www.steinair.com/home.htm they have a pile of stuff for home
builders.
George
N73EX
FLYING
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Subject: Zenith-List: Circuit breakers
Hello group ,I am working on my instrument panel and need some advise on
what type of circuit breakers most of you are using . Is there an
alternative to the more expensive aircraft type .
Thanks Wade Jones South Texas
601XL Franklin 0-235
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| Subject: | Re: Circuit breakers |
Hello group ,and what a nice group .Thanks for all the responses I
received on the circuit breakers .I have decided to follow Bill & John's
advise and use fuses instead of breakers .Today went to Radio Shack and
bought them for $1.98 each .Thanks again
Wade Jones South Texas
601XL Franklin 0-235
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From: John Davis
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 9:42 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Circuit breakers
Hi Wade,
One much less costly alternative is to use fuses instead of circuit
breakers. That's what I have used in my plane. Bob Nuckolls at
Aeroelectric Connection is a fan of fuses, here's an article he wrote in
Sport Plane aviation: http://www.aeroelectric.com/articles/fuseorcb.html
John Davis
Burnsville, NC (7A8 Morrison Field/Avery County)
601XL - Jab 3300
wade jones wrote:
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advise on what type of circuit breakers most of you are using . Is there
an alternative to the more expensive aircraft type .
Thanks Wade Jones South Texas
601XL Franklin 0-235
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| Subject: | Re: Circuit breakers |
While we're on the subject of fuses, has anyone had any experience with the "if
it glows it blows" fuses? These have a little LED that lights if the fuse is
blown. I've been thinking about switching to them. I believe they come in the
regular blade format.
Dan
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Scratch building XL with Corvair Engine
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| Subject: | Re: Circuit breakers |
Leinad
-
I work in a power plant.-- We use the fuses that you are describing.-
They work very well.-- If and when a fuse blowes a LED will light and
stay lighted until the fuse is replaced or power is removed.-- The only
problem is the fuses we have are metric sizes and a little harder to find.
-- Radio Shack sells the common sizes.--
I don't know how they will hold up in a plane with viberation and changing
humidity- all the time.-- But in a panel in a control room they work
with no problems.
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Hope this helps some.
-
Gary
--- On Tue, 9/9/08, leinad <leinad@hughes.net> wrote:
From: leinad <leinad@hughes.net>
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Circuit breakers
<leinad@hughes.net>
While we're on the subject of fuses, has anyone had any experience with the
"if it glows it blows" fuses? These have a little LED that lights if
the fuse is blown. I've been thinking about switching to them. I believe
they come in the regular blade format.
Dan
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| Subject: | Re: Circuit breakers |
Van's designed the LED fuses into the panel of the RV-12:
http://www.vansaircraft.com/images/RV-12/N412RV/switch_fuse.jpg
Waytek sells them:
http://order.waytekwire.com/CGI-BIN/LANSAWEB?WEBEVENT+L0F97D51B02C36000FDF90
82+M37+ENG
Or click on products -> circuit protection -> fuses-blade type -> ATO/ATC
FUSES-LIGHT WHEN BLOWN
46280 LED BLADE TYPE FUSE ATO/ATC, 3 AMP VIOLET (12 VOLTS)
EA 0.4480
46281 LED BLADE TYPE FUSE ATO/ATC, 5 AMP AMBER (12 VOLTS)
EA 0.4480
46282 LED BLADE TYPE FUSE ATO/ATC, 7.5 AMP BROWN (12 VOLTS) EA
0.4480
46283 LED BLADE TYPE FUSE ATO/ATC, 10 AMP RED (12 VOLTS)
EA 0.4480
46284 LED BLADE TYPE FUSE ATO/ATC, 15 AMP BLUE (12 VOLTS)
EA 0.4480
46285 LED BLADE TYPE FUSE ATO/ATC, 20 AMP YELLOW (12 VOLTS) EA
0.4480
46286 LED BLADE TYPE FUSE ATO/ATC, 25 AMP NATURAL (12 VOLTS) EA
0.4480
46287 LED BLADE TYPE FUSE ATO/ATC, 30 AMP GREEN (12 VOLTS)
EA 0.4480
-- Craig
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Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 6:34 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Circuit breakers
While we're on the subject of fuses, has anyone had any experience with the
"if it glows it blows" fuses? These have a little LED that lights if the
fuse is blown. I've been thinking about switching to them. I believe they
come in the regular blade format.
Dan
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Scratch building XL with Corvair Engine
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