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     1. 06:27 AM - Chat Room Reminder For "Digesters" (George Race)
     2. 10:06 AM - Re: Perspective builder (Bill Steer)
     3. 07:06 PM - Flying the 650 (Jeff)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Chat Room Reminder For "Digesters" | 
      
      Please join us for our Monday evening chat room starting around 8:00 PM
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      George
      
      CH-701 -  N73EX  - IT FLYS!
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Perspective builder | 
      
      
      As a 601HD builder who has my wings on and off several times, I agree 
      with the replies of others on the list who say it's at least a two hour 
      job to take them off or put them on, and it's a two person job.  This 
      can be shortened just a bit by using quick connect/disconnect fittings 
      for wiring and the pitot/static system, but it's still a pain.  There 
      are lots of things to line up - bottom skin clips, front and rear 
      connectors, the cover strip, and the spar plates.  Once a few bolts are 
      slipped through the spar plate holes, the rest go in fairly quickly, but 
      it's still time consuming.  The aileron connections are easy.
      
      Hope this helps.  I can't say anything about the Sonex.
      
      Bill
      
      
      Daryl wrote:
      >
      > Hi group,
      >
      > I've been lurking in this group since February and am interested in the CH
      > 601 HD.  I have also been looking at the Sonex.  A downside to the Sonex is
      > that the wings are not easily removable.  I may be looking at trailering my
      > project to and from the airport and removable wings are desirable for me.
      >
      > So, are the wings on the 601 HD easily removable?  If so, how much time does
      > it take and can one person do it easily?
      >
      >
      > Also, after speaking with a Sonex builder, he told me the airplane cannot be
      > operated with the canopy off, due to drag on the bulkhead aft of the canopy.
      >
      > Is this also true for the CH 601?
      >
      > thanks for your feedback!
      >
      > Daryl
      >
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      Time to start taxi tests is coming up quickly for me.  I talked to my
      insurance agent about changing from non-movement insurance to flight
      insurance.  I have a little over 8 hours in the first SLSA 601XL, but that
      was back in 2006.  The insurance company wanted me to get some more recent
      experience in a Zodiac.  I live in Northern Virginia.  Ron Steele found
      Forsyth Aviation in Gaithersburg Maryland for me.  The owner is Younis
      Forsyth, a long time local CFII.  He sold his Bonanza for the 650!  His is
      the same airplane that was on display at Oshkosh this year.  It is equipped
      so that he can do Sport Pilot, Primary, and Instrument training in it.  It
      has both steam gauges and the latest in electronic equipment including a
      Garmin 530, 330 transponder, SL30 NAV/COM, Dynon EMS, and Aspen Avionics
      EFIS.  It does not have an ADF.  It is a 650 so it has the new canopy and
      rudder.  The rollover protection is a clear improvement.  Other than that,
      it looks to me like a 601.  It clearly is a Zodiac.  On the walk around,
      however, I couldn't resist telling Younis every detail that differed from my
      601-HD.  This Zodiac has the gascolator hanging out the bottom, but AMD
      built a cage around it.  The plane is meant to fit a lot of people.  At 5-7
      reaching the center throttle was a bit far for me.  It has dual sticks and
      dual throttles, one on the left side and one in the middle.    With the
      Continental in it, it has a mixture control.  
      
      
      Younis and I agreed to fly without using the flaps to simulate my HD model.
      I was comfortable in the plane after about the first 20 minutes.  My only
      concern was that I couldn't see over the cowling.  Younis said something
      about getting a booster seat for those of us less than 6 feet tall!  That
      will help.  Care is also required getting in and out.  The knobs on the
      Aspen are easy to hit with your foot.  Flying characteristics couldn't be
      more docile.  There was no hard break in either stall.  The power-on stall
      resulted in an attitude so steep that no one could do that unintentionally.
      It felt like the airplane was vertical.  I made mostly acceptable take-offs
      and landings.  The pitch control is very sensitive.  Younis showed me how to
      rest my elbow on the upper longeron for stability.  Control movements were
      done with the wrist, not the arm.  I didn't break anything and the plane is
      there if you need Zodiac time.  Younis is a great instructor and I enjoyed
      my time with him immensely.  I now have the flight time to make my insurance
      company happy.  
      
      
      Younis offers an introductory flight for a reasonable cost.  His normal fees
      are on the web site as well as pictures of the plane.  His URL is:
      http://www.forsythaviation.us/    I would recommend that others in the
      Mid-Atlantic area consider going to Forsyth for the Zodiac training they
      need.
      
      
      Jeff Davidson
      
      CH601-HD/3300A
      
      Almost there ..
      
      
 
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