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Sun 10/12/08


Total Messages Posted: 13



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 05:07 AM - Re: Flight Training DVD's (GM)
     2. 06:02 AM - Re: Fiberglass wing tip installation (jaybannist@cs.com)
     3. 06:43 AM - Re: Re: ACS Primer Kit (Craig Spainhower)
     4. 07:49 AM - Re: Fiberglass wing tip installation (Bill Naumuk)
     5. 09:23 AM - Re: Fiberglass wing tip installation (Bryan Martin)
     6. 02:37 PM - 601XL kit for sale (swater6)
     7. 03:16 PM - R-V air vents (Southern Reflections)
     8. 05:58 PM - Re: R-V air vents (PatrickW)
     9. 06:13 PM - First Flight (dingfelder)
    10. 06:34 PM - Re: First Flight (Juan Vega)
    11. 07:12 PM - Zenair Newsletter Back Issues For Sale (aquacolor)
    12. 08:14 PM - Re: Re: R-V air vents (Southern Reflections)
    13. 11:09 PM - Re: First Flight (TxDave)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:07:14 AM PST US
    From: GM <planelists@optonline.net>
    Subject: Re: Flight Training DVD's
    Check also "Cessna Cleared for takeoff" byKing. http://www.kingschools.com/productDetail.asp?itemNo=CPC%20KS198K George . Any thoughts on what is best? Thanks. Dean


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    Time: 06:02:04 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fiberglass wing tip installation
    From: jaybannist@cs.com
    Ron, I put an access plate in the aluminum wingtip plate.? I didn't think it would need to be opened very much, so I riveted it in place. Jay in Dallas -----Original Message----- From: Ronald Steele <rsteele@rjsit.com> Sent: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 9:28 pm Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fiberglass wing tip installation On a related note, has anyone used nut plates to attach the tips? ?I'm thinking this would allow access to strobe power supplies. ?Are there any special requirements for attaching nut plates to fiberglass? Ron ? How you go about getting a good fit of the forward (fiberglass) wing tip on the 601XL? I have a couple for problems. One is how to hold the tip in place while drilling, as there doesn't seem to be a way to clamp it. The other is that it looks like I'll have to trim the skin around the front of the tip to prevent it extending past the curve of the fiberglass. Is this normal? If I install the tip so that front of the skin blends smoothly into the tip, there is only about 4mm of space to rivet the tip. I know this isn't very clear. Trying to come up with a better description.? ? Ron? 601XL -wings? ? ? ? ? Email message sent from CompuServe - visit us today at http://www.cs.com href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________________________________________________ Email message sent from CompuServe - visit us today at http://www.cs.com


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    Time: 06:43:28 AM PST US
    From: "Craig Spainhower" <n601xs@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: ACS Primer Kit
    Dan, I used a Cessna primer for my 0-235 and determined the inlet and outlet by working the pump and putting a finger over each hole to see which one created suction or pressure. The primer inlet should connect prior to the fuel pumps at the top of the gascolator. Craig S. N601XS > > Has anyone else purchased the primer kit from ACS. It came with no > instructions. I'm not sure which is inlet and which is outlet. Also > normally do you take the fuel before the pump or after? > > Dan > > > -------- > Scratch building XL with Corvair Engine > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 8331#208331 > >


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    Time: 07:49:52 AM PST US
    From: "Bill Naumuk" <naumuk@alltel.net>
    Subject: Re: Fiberglass wing tip installation
    Ron- If you plan to use pulled rivets to attach the nutplates on the fiberglass, you'll have to go with the comparatively larger nutplates. #6 or #8 are attached with a small rivet available in only one draw size from Wicks, which is the only outlet I could find and probably not long enough for your application. Expensive little puppies, too. If you want access, I'd put a plate in the aluminum ala Jay. Just guessing, but I would imagine you'd have less airflow disruption on the bottom of the wing. This means nothing in your situation, but I went with standard position lights secured with rivnuts for bulb replacement access, and a belly strobe with the flash unit mounted behind the seat. I'm not familiar with the XL setup, but would it be possible to extend your wiring to allow the flash unit to be mounted inside the cockpit? Might be the best scenario. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: jaybannist@cs.com To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 8:59 AM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fiberglass wing tip installation Ron, I put an access plate in the aluminum wingtip plate. I didn't think it would need to be opened very much, so I riveted it in place. Jay in Dallas -----Original Message----- From: Ronald Steele <rsteele@rjsit.com> To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 9:28 pm Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fiberglass wing tip installation On a related note, has anyone used nut plates to attach the tips? I'm thinking this would allow access to strobe power supplies. Are there any special requirements for attaching nut plates to fiberglass? Ron How you go about getting a good fit of the forward (fiberglass) wing tip on the 601XL? I have a couple for problems. One is how to hold the tip in place while drilling, as there doesn't seem to be a way to clamp it. The other is that it looks like I'll have to trim the skin around the front of the tip to prevent it extending past the curve of the fiberglass. Is this normal? If I install the tip so that front of the skin blends smoothly into the tip, there is only about 4mm of space to rivet the tip. I know this isn't very clear. Trying to come up with a better description. Ron 601XL -wings ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Email message sent from CompuServe - visit us today at http://www.cs.com href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List">http://www.matron ics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ontribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Email message sent from CompuServe - visit us today at http://www.cs.com


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    Time: 09:23:52 AM PST US
    From: Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Fiberglass wing tip installation
    My strobe power supplies are mounted to the floor under the seats. I can get to them through the spar bolt access panel. On Oct 12, 2008, at 8:59 AM, jaybannist@cs.com wrote: > Ron, > > I put an access plate in the aluminum wingtip plate. I didn't think > it would need to be opened very much, so I riveted it in place. > > Jay in Dallas -- Bryan Martin N61BM, CH 601 XL, RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive. do not archive.


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    Time: 02:37:30 PM PST US
    Subject: 601XL kit for sale
    From: "swater6" <waters.scott@comcast.net>
    My 601 XL kit is for sale. This is a complete kit. 2003 model. The airframe is about 75% complete. See my ad on Barnstormers. http://www.barnstormers.com/cat.php?PHPSESSID=b09d59f065f8fb5a39d5868e28d990ff Additional pictures on my website in my signature below. Let me know if you have questions or are interested. Thanks, Scott -------- 601 XL kit N596SW reserved Tail, control surfaces and both wings complete. Now working on fuselage www.scottwaters.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 8419#208419


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    Time: 03:16:13 PM PST US
    From: "Southern Reflections" <purplemoon99@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: R-V air vents
    I dont rember who posted the article about the R-V vent's , I ordered a set ,made them up and installed in my XL. They are the best ! the very best ,not to mention the pair only cost $18.00. I dont remember spending $18.00 on any for this airplane that worked any better,and made me any happier., going to use the other vent's to go up to my dash and cool every thing under there. Thank's again !! Joe N101HD


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    Time: 05:58:33 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: R-V air vents
    From: "PatrickW" <pwhoyt@yahoo.com>
    Do you have the part number handy...? Thanks, - Pat -------- Patrick 601XL/Corvair N63PZ (reserved) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 8448#208448


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    Time: 06:13:55 PM PST US
    From: "dingfelder" <ding@tbscc.com>
    Subject: First Flight
    Zenith 601 XL / Corvair N4ZK made it's maiden voyage tonight. It has a standard recipe William Wynne conversion, and performance is excellent. Climbout is strong and handling easy. I have no performance numbers to share yet, as I was more concerned at this early stage with just monitoring critical temps and airspeed. EGT and CHT were well below the max indicators I placed on the guage faces, but oil temp did keep creeping up, and required me to throttle back to arrest the trend after a while. This plane is fast and smooth, and my single landing so far was easy. High idle speed carried me a ways down the runway, and that will be addressed in time. It seemed to take quite a bit of elevator trim to bring the nose up and remove the pressure from the stick. It's possible I'll need to adjust the elevator angle a bit, but too soon to say. It's currently 1 deg. down. A very nice handling plane, and I'm looking forward to burning off some of those pesky Phase one hours. I'll share more as I gather performance data and tweak things if needed. Keep building !! Lynn Dingfelder 601 XL / Corvair Corry, PA. ding@tbscc.com


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    Time: 06:34:38 PM PST US
    From: Juan Vega <amyvega2005@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: First Flight
    difelder my man! i think we met at Russ's place at ZPH. COngrats JUan -----Original Message----- >From: dingfelder <ding@tbscc.com> >Sent: Oct 12, 2008 9:12 PM >To: zenith-list@matronics.com >Subject: Zenith-List: First Flight > >Zenith 601 XL / Corvair N4ZK made it's maiden voyage tonight. It has a standard recipe William Wynne conversion, and performance is excellent. Climbout is strong and handling easy. I have no performance numbers to share yet, as I was more concerned at this early stage with just monitoring critical temps and airspeed. EGT and CHT were well below the max indicators I placed on the guage faces, but oil temp did keep creeping up, and required me to throttle back to arrest the trend after a while. This plane is fast and smooth, and my single landing so far was easy. High idle speed carried me a ways down the runway, and that will be addressed in time. It seemed to take quite a bit of elevator trim to bring the nose up and remove the pressure from the stick. It's possible I'll need to adjust the elevator angle a bit, but too soon to say. It's currently 1 deg. down. A very nice handling plane, and I'm looking forward to burning off some of those pesky Phase one hours. I'll share more as I gather performance data and tweak things if needed. Keep building !! > Lynn Dingfelder > 601 XL / Corvair Corry, PA. ding@tbscc.com


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    Time: 07:12:12 PM PST US
    Subject: Zenair Newsletter Back Issues For Sale
    From: "aquacolor" <aquacolor@att.net>
    I've listed my collection of the Zenair newsletter back issues ( #71 thru #115 ) for sale on eBay at: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&viewitem=&item=120317439472 Thanks for looking, Aqua Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 8465#208465


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    Time: 08:14:18 PM PST US
    From: "Southern Reflections" <purplemoon99@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: R-V air vents
    Patrick,it is just listed as Vent sidewall kit it is on page 80 of there cat. ph.503-678-6545 . I'll look at my invoice tomorrow Joe N101HD ----- Original Message ----- From: "PatrickW" <pwhoyt@yahoo.com> Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 8:57 PM Subject: Zenith-List: Re: R-V air vents > > Do you have the part number handy...? > > Thanks, > > - Pat > > -------- > Patrick > 601XL/Corvair > N63PZ (reserved) > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 8448#208448 > > >


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    Time: 11:09:34 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: First Flight
    From: "TxDave" <dclaytx2@HOTMAIL.COM>
    Congrats Lynn. Thanks for sharing your triumph with the group. I look forward to hearing more reports. Dave Clay Temple, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 8481#208481




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