---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 10/16/08: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:01 AM - Re: Paint (Ken) 2. 02:50 PM - Battery (wade jones) 3. 03:04 PM - Re: Battery (jaybannist@cs.com) 4. 03:08 PM - Re: Battery (Rick Lindstrom) 5. 04:20 PM - Re: Battery (Bryan Martin) 6. 04:42 PM - Re: Battery (Trainnut01@aol.com) 7. 04:52 PM - Re: Battery (wade jones) 8. 04:54 PM - Re: Battery (Craig Payne) 9. 05:06 PM - Re: Battery (Trainnut01@aol.com) 10. 08:53 PM - Franklin (Darrell Haas) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:01:17 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Paint From: "Ken" Here is another place you might check out. Prices are similar or even better and service is fantastic. I've used Kirker for a couple of cars and now my 601. http://www.smartshoppersinc.com/kirker/kirker1.html Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 9006#209006 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:50:51 PM PST US From: "wade jones" Subject: Zenith-List: Battery Hello group ,thanks for all the advise I received on the battery .Using this advise I have decided to go with the Dynasty PC680 .I will be locating it behind the passenger seat .Next question ,has anyone run their battery leads from bat. to engine through the center console with this battery location . Thanks Wade Jones South Texas 601XL Franklin 0-235 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:04:07 PM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Battery From: jaybannist@cs.com Wade, My battery is also mounted behind the right seat. I ran the autopilot wiring, headset wiring and lighting wiring through the center console. That pretty well filled up the available space; plus I was a little concerned about electrical interference. So I ran the battery cables up under the right longeron. Have you received those panel labels? Jay in Dallas -----Original Message----- From: wade jones Sent: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 4:49 pm Subject: Zenith-List: Battery Hello group ,thanks for all the advise I received on the battery .Using this advise I have decided to go with the Dynasty PC680 .I will be locating it behind the passenger seat .Next question ,has anyone run their battery leads from bat. to engine through the center console with this battery location . Thanks Wade? Jones? South Texas 601XL Franklin 0-235 ________________________________________________________________________ Email message sent from CompuServe - visit us today at http://www.cs.com ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:08:20 PM PST US From: Rick Lindstrom Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Battery Howdy, Wade. I have the exact same battery in the exact same location. Not a problem a-tall. Battery relay right next to it, too. But I'm only cranking a Corvair, so I'm assuming you're fixin' to use a Sky-Tek starter in your set up? Rick Lindstrom N42KP -----Original Message----- >From: wade jones >Sent: Oct 16, 2008 5:49 PM >To: zenith-list@matronics.com >Subject: Zenith-List: Battery > >Hello group ,thanks for all the advise I received on the battery .Using this advise I have decided to go with the Dynasty PC680 .I will be locating it behind the passenger seat .Next question ,has anyone run their battery leads from bat. to engine through the center console with this battery location . Thanks >Wade Jones South Texas >601XL Franklin 0-235 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:20:10 PM PST US From: Bryan Martin Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Battery I have my battery in the same location. I ran my battery cables and several other power wires through the center console. I ran the wires on either side of and at the same level as the torque tube, spiral wrapped and secured to the side walls. That way there is no interference with the controls. On Oct 16, 2008, at 5:49 PM, wade jones wrote: > Hello group ,thanks for all the advise I received on the > battery .Using this advise I have decided to go with the Dynasty > PC680 .I will be locating it behind the passenger seat .Next > question ,has anyone run their battery leads from bat. to engine > through the center console with this battery location . Thanks > Wade Jones South Texas > 601XL Franklin 0-235 -- Bryan Martin N61BM, CH 601 XL, RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive. do not archive. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:42:21 PM PST US From: Trainnut01@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Battery Wade I'm a long way from flying my 601XL however I intend to use the same battery set up that I used in my previous project. I built my RV7 to use a 4.3 Chevy V-6 and used a battery layout that was a variation of a system suggested by Jesse Meyers at Belted Airpower. Basically it consisted of two PC 545 batteries. The electrical system is divided so that each battery powers one fuel pump and one coil. The electrical buss is fed from whichever battery is turned on through 25 amp diodes. The batteries are charged simultaneously through 25 amp diodes also. The only time both batteries are used at the same time is during cranking. To me there is a big advantage to this system, in the event of an engine failure flipping one switch changes the battery, the fuel pump and the ignition system. I won't have to spend time thinking about where the failure is located. In my Corvair installation I intend to use two oil pressure switches also. The disadvantage is weight. The PC545 weighs 11.7 pounds. Two of them weigh about the same as most standard aircraft batteries but still considerably more than a PC680. In the RV I placed the batteries behind the right seat but I needed the weight back there anyway. I'm sure someone out there can improve on this but I like the simplicity and easy redundancy. Carroll Jernigan 601XL Corvair Fuselage (Engine on test stand awaiting a few more parts.) **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002) ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:52:33 PM PST US From: "wade jones" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Battery No Rick ,the Sky-Tek starter is no longer available for the Franklin engine.So I have to use the old Prestolite .If anyone knows where an available Sky-Tek starter for a franklin is please let me know . Thanks Wade Jones South Texas 601XL Franklin 0-235 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Lindstrom" Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 5:08 PM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Battery > > > Howdy, Wade. > > I have the exact same battery in the exact same location. Not a problem > a-tall. Battery relay right next to it, too. > > But I'm only cranking a Corvair, so I'm assuming you're fixin' to use a > Sky-Tek starter in your set up? > > Rick Lindstrom > N42KP > > > -----Original Message----- >>From: wade jones >>Sent: Oct 16, 2008 5:49 PM >>To: zenith-list@matronics.com >>Subject: Zenith-List: Battery >> >>Hello group ,thanks for all the advise I received on the battery .Using >>this advise I have decided to go with the Dynasty PC680 .I will be >>locating it behind the passenger seat .Next question ,has anyone run their >>battery leads from bat. to engine through the center console with this >>battery location . Thanks >>Wade Jones South Texas >>601XL Franklin 0-235 > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 04:54:57 PM PST US From: "Craig Payne" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Battery How do you feed two batteries to one starter? Do you have two starter solenoids? I can't see you doing it through the diodes as they are too small to pass the cranking current. -- Craig From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Trainnut01@aol.com Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 5:42 PM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Battery Wade I'm a long way from flying my 601XL however I intend to use the same battery set up that I used in my previous project. I built my RV7 to use a 4.3 Chevy V-6 and used a battery layout that was a variation of a system suggested by Jesse Meyers at Belted Airpower. Basically it consisted of two PC 545 batteries. The electrical system is divided so that each battery powers one fuel pump and one coil. The electrical buss is fed from whichever battery is turned on through 25 amp diodes. The batteries are charged simultaneously through 25 amp diodes also. The only time both batteries are used at the same time is during cranking. To me there is a big advantage to this system, in the event of an engine failure flipping one switch changes the battery, the fuel pump and the ignition system. I won't have to spend time thinking about where the failure is located. In my Corvair installation I intend to use two oil pressure switches also. The disadvantage is weight. The PC545 weighs 11.7 pounds. Two of them weigh about the same as most standard aircraft batteries but still considerably more than a PC680. In the RV I placed the batteries behind the right seat but I needed the weight back there anyway. I'm sure someone out there can improve on this but I like the simplicity and easy redundancy. Carroll Jernigan 601XL Corvair Fuselage (Engine on test stand awaiting a few more parts.) _____ New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more.l?redir=http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002">Try it out! ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 05:06:25 PM PST US From: Trainnut01@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Battery Two starter solenoids. Small ones that I got from W.W.Grainger. I don't remember the part number. Carroll **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002) ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:53:56 PM PST US From: "Darrell Haas" Subject: Zenith-List: Franklin Anyone here flying behind a Franklin? Darrell A. 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