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1. 12:30 AM - Re: A Difficult Landing and After Thoughts (eightyknots)
2. 12:58 PM - Canopy Safety (jaybannist@cs.com)
3. 01:53 PM - Re: Canopy Safety (wade jones)
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| Subject: | Re: A Difficult Landing and After Thoughts |
Hi George,
I'm thankful to God that you not only survived this incident but survived pretty
well intact ...from the sound of it.
There is a New Zealand guy in the north who has written a useful article about the CH-701. It is at http://www.acomodata.com/zenair701/index.htm . He is a retired Boeing captain from Air New Zealand. Among other things he writes: "
The lack of inertia is most likely to catch you out in landings. Whereas in your
Cessna you can chop the power at 50 or so and continue on to land in fine style,
in the 701 the speed will bleed amazingly quickly. This is particularly pronounced
when approaching with full flap, (30 deg.) Early power reduction and
speed decay can result in loss of elevator authority. Until you have got it
taped I recommend keeping power on until the mainwheels touch."
And also "Operating a short strip with the throttle closed and speed bleeding near
the ground I have a little rule. If I lose elevator control above 10 feet
above the ground I correct it with addition of appropriate power. If the elevator
control loss occurs below 10 feet above the ground I just accept it, the
nose drops, all 3 wheels hit simultaneously but not too hard. I run the tundra
tyres quite flat, (8 psi) to give more cushioning."
This may help a little in explaining things.
I'm at the beginning end (contemplating which STOL plane to construct) with the
701 high on the list. Therefore, I was very interested in your experience as
well as your comments about the structural integrity of the 701. I wonder how
well other planes (e.g. the Valor or Savannah) would have survived a similar impact?
I hope you'll re-think your self-imposed flying ban. Don't they say that when you
fall off a horse the best thing to do is to get straight back on?
Best wishes,
Hank
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Hank
I am looking for a STOL plane to build, starting in 2009. Will it be an ICP Savannah,
a Zenith CH-701, an Aeroprakt Foxbat/A22/Valor, etc ... ?
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 9139#209139
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As you may know, the canopy of the AMD 601XLi I was flying came open; flew up to
about 50 degrees and the airplane became uncontrollable. As soon as I had recovered
enough to get around, the very first thing I did was to install a safety
cable to the canopy of my airplane, Lil Bruiser. I have attached drawing of
what I installed.? I made the cable just long enough, when pinned, that the canopy
can be open a little for taxi on hot days. I am probably going to add a
removable nylon strap that will be long enough to help pull the canopy down when
seated.? Let me know if you have any questions.
Jay in Dallas
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy Safety |
Hello Jay , looks great .I was planning on doing the same to my 601XL
.With your drawings it will save me the time of designing one ,I will go
the same as you did . Thanks for sharing.
Wade Jones South Texas
601XL Franklin 0-235
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From: jaybannist@cs.com
To: zenith-list@matronics.com ; zenith601-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 2:57 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Canopy Safety
As you may know, the canopy of the AMD 601XLi I was flying came open;
flew up to about 50 degrees and the airplane became uncontrollable. As
soon as I had recovered enough to get around, the very first thing I did
was to install a safety cable to the canopy of my airplane, Lil Bruiser.
I have attached drawing of what I installed. I made the cable just long
enough, when pinned, that the canopy can be open a little for taxi on
hot days. I am probably going to add a removable nylon strap that will
be long enough to help pull the canopy down when seated. Let me know if
you have any questions.
Jay in Dallas
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