Zenith-List Digest Archive

Mon 10/20/08


Total Messages Posted: 22



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 06:06 AM - Chat Room Reminder (George Race)
     2. 08:24 AM - 601XL Flap Gap Stop (Dave VanLanen)
     3. 08:35 AM - Re: Canopy Safety (japhillipsga@aol.com)
     4. 08:43 AM - Kids' project complete in Miami, see attached video of fly off. (Juan Vega)
     5. 08:46 AM - Re: 601XL Flap Gap Stop (DaveG601XL)
     6. 09:02 AM - Safetying of turnbuckles on 6B17-4 Torque Tube (John Davis)
     7. 09:16 AM - Re: Kids' project complete in Miami, see attached video of fly off. (wade jones)
     8. 09:16 AM - Re: Canopy Safety (jaybannist@cs.com)
     9. 09:18 AM - Re: Kids' project complete in Miami, see attached video of fly off. (jaybannist@cs.com)
    10. 09:26 AM - Re: Correcting canopy spread? (Gig Giacona)
    11. 09:39 AM - Re: Safetying of turnbuckles on 6B17-4 Torque Tube (Bill Steer)
    12. 09:40 AM - Re: AVIONICS WIRING (Gig Giacona)
    13. 10:22 AM - Re: Safetying of turnbuckles on 6B17-4 Torque Tube (Paul Mulwitz)
    14. 10:41 AM - Re: Kids' project complete in Miami, see attached video of fly off. (Terry Phillips)
    15. 10:53 AM - Re: Zenith-List Digest: 13 Msgs - 10/12/08 (Jimmy Mathis)
    16. 10:54 AM - Re: Zenith-List Digest: 13 Msgs - 10/12/08 (Jimmy Mathis)
    17. 11:50 AM - Request for your video footage (Jon Croke)
    18. 01:33 PM - Re: Kids' project complete in Miami, see attached video of fly off. (Joe Stevenson)
    19. 01:33 PM - Re: Kids' project complete in Miami, see attached video of fly off. (Joe Stevenson)
    20. 02:49 PM - Re: Zenith-List Digest: 13 Msgs - 10/12/08 (Gig Giacona)
    21. 05:57 PM - Re: Kids' project complete in Miami, see attached video of fly (Ron Lendon)
    22. 07:03 PM - Re: AVIONICS WIRING (N117FA)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:06:25 AM PST US
    From: "George Race" <mykitairplane@mrrace.com>
    Subject: Chat Room Reminder
    Please join us for our Monday evening chat room starting around 8:00 PM Eastern Time. <blocked::blocked::blocked::blocked::blocked::blocked::http://www.mykitairpl ane.com/chat/> http://www.mykitairplane.com/chat/ George Do Not Archive


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    Time: 08:24:50 AM PST US
    From: "Dave VanLanen" <davevanlanen@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: 601XL Flap Gap Stop
    Plans page 6-S-3 specifies installation of a flap gap stop on the O/B end of each flap on the 601XL. Are these stops supposed to be part of the kit? I cannot find them in my kit. If not, can someone tell me where to obtain the correct material for making these stops? Thanks, Dave Van Lanen


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    Time: 08:35:15 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Canopy Safety
    From: japhillipsga@aol.com
    Jay, I too have had my XL canopy open while flying. A problem, but manageable. If I had the center yoke control it might not have been. Question is can you exit the plane quickly with the cable attached. Say a fire, smoke filled cockpit while taxing, etc? Best regards, Bill of Georgia?? -----Original Message----- From: jaybannist@cs.com Sent: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 3:57 pm Subject: Zenith-List: Canopy Safety As you may know, the canopy of the AMD 601XLi I was flying came open; flew up to about 50 degrees and the airplane became uncontrollable. As soon as I had recovered enough to get around, the very first thing I did was to install a safety cable to the canopy of my airplane, Lil Bruiser. I have attached drawing of what I installed.? I made the cable just long enough, when pinned, that the canopy can be open a little for taxi on hot days. I am probably going to add a removable nylon strap that will be long enough to help pull the canopy down when seated.? Let me know if you have any questions. Jay in Dallas Email message sent from CompuServe - visit us today at http://www.cs.com


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    Time: 08:43:43 AM PST US
    From: Juan Vega <amyvega2005@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Kids' project complete in Miami, see attached video of fly
    off. http://video.nbc6.net/player/?id=763161 Juan Vega


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    Time: 08:46:41 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: 601XL Flap Gap Stop
    From: "DaveG601XL" <david.m.gallagher@ge.com>
    Dave, I got some of the white nylon plastic in my kit for these stops. You can also buy it from Aircraft Spruce or locally (like a cutting board). -------- David Gallagher 601 XL/Jabiru 3300 First flight 7/24/08 In Phase I flight test Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 9481#209481


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    Time: 09:02:43 AM PST US
    From: John Davis <johnd@data-tech.com>
    Subject: Safetying of turnbuckles on 6B17-4 Torque Tube
    Hi All, I'm having a problem with safetying the turnbuckles that connect the cable from the aileron bellcranks to the 6b17-4 torque tube. There isnt enough clearance between the edge of the tongue torque tube and the inside edge of the turnbuckle fork to the safety wire. If the torque tube tongue is vertical it's OK but if you deflect the stick to either side then the wire is pinched between the edge of the turnbuckle fork and the torque tube tongue. My Tech counselor suggested using locking turnbuckles but I cant seem to find the MS21251-4RS/4RL parts for that. Any ideas or suggestions ? I assume other folks must have run into this as well ? Thanks, John Davis Burnsville, NC 601XL - Jab 3300


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    Time: 09:16:07 AM PST US
    From: "wade jones" <wjones@brazoriainet.com>
    Subject: Re: Kids' project complete in Miami, see attached video
    of fly off. Hey Juan ,thanks for sharing the video .I have read several posts from you ,now I know what you look like . Wade Jones South Texas 601XL Franklin 0-235 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Juan Vega" <amyvega2005@earthlink.net> <zenith-list@matronics.com> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 10:43 AM Subject: Zenith-List: Kids' project complete in Miami, see attached video of fly off. > > http://video.nbc6.net/player/?id=763161 > > Juan Vega > > >


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    Time: 09:16:07 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Canopy Safety
    From: jaybannist@cs.com
    Bill, Just curious.? Were you alone when the canopy came open? I have heard other accounts of canopies coming open, all with single occupants, and it being manageable.? And I am guessing that AMD tested a canopy un-latch with a single test pilot.? They say the canopy will only open a foot or so.? I am beginning to think that the drastic action of the canopy in my case might have been because there were two aboard. No, it would not be possible to open the canopy with the safety cable in place and pinned. Emergency exit would be a three step process: 1) pull the safety cable pin, 2) unlatch and open the canopy, 3) unlatch seat belt, and get the hell out! (approximately the same as a normal exit, only faster!)? In your example fo smoke or fire, my fire extinguisher is located in the baggage area just behind the passenger seat, very near the safety cable pin. After pulling the pin, I would have to decide whether to employ the extinguisher or just get out. Jay in Dallas -----Original Message----- From: japhillipsga@aol.com Sent: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:34 am Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Canopy Safety Jay, I too have had my XL canopy open while flying. A problem, but manageable. If I had the center yoke control it might not have been. Question is can you exit the plane quickly with the cable attached. Say a fire, smoke filled cockpit while taxing, etc? Best regards, Bill of Georgia?? -----Original Message----- From: jaybannist@cs.com Sent: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 3:57 pm Subject: Zenith-List: Canopy Safety As you may know, the canopy of the AMD 601XLi I was flying came open; flew up to about 50 degrees and the airplane became uncontrollable. As soon as I had recovered enough to get around, the very first thing I did was to install a safety cable to the canopy of my airplane, Lil Bruiser. I have attached drawing of what I installed.? I made the cable just long enough, when pinned, that the canopy can be open a little for taxi on hot days. I am probably going to add a removable nylon strap that will be long enough to help pull the canopy down when seated.? Let me know if you have any questions. Jay in Dallas Email message sent from CompuServe - visit us today at http://www.cs.com ________________________________________________________________________ Email message sent from CompuServe - visit us today at http://www.cs.com


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    Time: 09:18:51 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Kids' project complete in Miami, see attached video
    of fly off.
    From: jaybannist@cs.com
    Juan - OUTSTANDING!!!? Congratulations!! Jay in Dallas do not archive -----Original Message----- From: Juan Vega <amyvega2005@earthlink.net> Sent: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:43 am Subject: Zenith-List: Kids' project complete in Miami, see attached video of fly off. http://video.nbc6.net/player/?id=763161 Juan Vega ________________________________________________________________________ Email message sent from CompuServe - visit us today at http://www.cs.com


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    Time: 09:26:48 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Correcting canopy spread?
    From: "Gig Giacona" <wrgiacona@gmail.com>
    George, It's Monday and I'm having trouble picturing the bracket (which seems like a REAL good idea). DO you have any photos? gfmjr_20(at)HOTMAIL.COM wrote: > Andy-- > I had the same problem and added a cross bar. When adding the cross bar I made > two brackets which were riveted to the rear bow. On one bracket I drilled a hole for > an anchoring bolt to one end of the added cross bar and on the other bracket I cut a slot > to anchor the other end of the cross bar. This slot will allow for future needed adjustments. > For the cross bar I used a piece of 6061 the same diameter as the rear bow. I flatened the > ends in a vice and drilled the required holes. I used an3 bolts with stopnuts to secure the ends. > An added advantage is that the bar acts as a handy way to pull the canopy down. > > George May > 6t01XL 912s 238 hrs -------- W.R. &quot;Gig&quot; Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 9491#209491


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    Time: 09:39:38 AM PST US
    From: Bill Steer <steerr@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Safetying of turnbuckles on 6B17-4 Torque Tube
    John, I had a similar problem with the rudder pedal hookup on my 601HD. I bought MS21252-4LS fork ends from Wicks. I realize there's a difference in the part number from what you said, but I think the 21252 is correct. Hope this helps. BTW, I'm in Hendersonville, NC. Bill John Davis wrote: > > Hi All, > > I'm having a problem with safetying the turnbuckles that connect the > cable from the aileron bellcranks to the 6b17-4 torque tube. There > isnt enough clearance between the edge of the tongue torque tube and > the inside edge of the turnbuckle fork to the safety wire. If the > torque tube tongue is vertical it's OK but if you deflect the stick to > either side then the wire is pinched between the edge of the > turnbuckle fork and the torque tube tongue. > > My Tech counselor suggested using locking turnbuckles but I cant seem > to find the MS21251-4RS/4RL parts for that. > > Any ideas or suggestions ? I assume other folks must have run into > this as well ? > > Thanks, > John Davis > Burnsville, NC > 601XL - Jab 3300


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    Time: 09:40:27 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: AVIONICS WIRING
    From: "Gig Giacona" <wrgiacona@gmail.com>
    I looked at them when I was considering a much more complex panel. Before you buy one get a price quote for a custom harness from somebody like http://www.steinair.com/. It might well be cheaper. N117FA wrote: > Has anyone had experience with APPROACH SPORT HUB AVIONICS WIRING SYSTEMS? Are there any flying out there? Have any connector or hub issues surfaced? > > Thanks, > Younis Forsyth > Forsyth Aviation > http://www.forsythaviation.us -------- W.R. &quot;Gig&quot; Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 9496#209496


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    Time: 10:22:12 AM PST US
    From: Paul Mulwitz <psm@att.net>
    Subject: Re: Safetying of turnbuckles on 6B17-4 Torque Tube
    Hi John, There are a number of solutions to this problem. You can grind the corners of the mating plate down with a Dremel tool to make room for the wire. You might get away with a lighter gauge of safety wire if you get it into the outside corners of the fork. Good luck, Paul XL getting close At 08:57 AM 10/20/2008, you wrote: >Hi All, > >I'm having a problem with safetying the turnbuckles that connect the >cable from the aileron bellcranks to the 6b17-4 torque tube. There >isnt enough clearance between the edge of the tongue torque tube >and the inside edge of the turnbuckle fork to the safety wire. If >the torque tube tongue is vertical it's OK but if you deflect the >stick to either side then the wire is pinched between the edge of >the turnbuckle fork and the torque tube tongue. > >My Tech counselor suggested using locking turnbuckles but I cant >seem to find the MS21251-4RS/4RL parts for that. > >Any ideas or suggestions ? I assume other folks must have run into >this as well ? > >Thanks, >John Davis >Burnsville, NC >601XL - Jab 3300


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    Time: 10:41:05 AM PST US
    From: Terry Phillips <ttp44@rkymtn.net>
    Subject: Re: Kids' project complete in Miami, see attached video
    of fly off. Well done, Juan! Terry At 11:43 AM 10/20/2008 -0400, you wrote: >http://video.nbc6.net/player/?id=763161 > >Juan Vega Terry Phillips ZBAGer ttp44~at~rkymtn.net Corvallis MT 601XL/Jab 3300 s .. l .. o .. o .. w build kit - Tail, flaps, & ailerons are done; working on the wings http://www.mykitlog.com/N47TP/


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    Time: 10:53:40 AM PST US
    From: Jimmy Mathis <tallow_98@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Zenith-List Digest: 13 Msgs - 10/12/08
    Hi guys: Can't figure out how to post, so here is my message. I have a 601XL fuselage and tail kit. Rudder is done. I have decided to build a bearhawk Patrol. my kits are for sale. $5500.00 or best offer. I have plans also. tallow_98@yahoo.com Jimmy --- On Mon, 10/13/08, Zenith-List Digest Server <zenith-list@matronics.com> wrote: > From: Zenith-List Digest Server <zenith-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Zenith-List Digest: 13 Msgs - 10/12/08 > To: "Zenith-List Digest List" <zenith-list-digest@matronics.com> > Date: Monday, October 13, 2008, 1:59 AM > * > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > > Today's complete Zenith-List Digest can also be found > in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the > Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features > Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain > ASCII version > of the Zenith-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic > text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 08-10-12&Archive=Zenith > > Text Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 08-10-12&Archive=Zenith > > > =============================================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > =============================================== > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Zenith-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Sun 10/12/08: 13 > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 05:07 AM - Re: Flight Training DVD's (GM) > 2. 06:02 AM - Re: Fiberglass wing tip installation > (jaybannist@cs.com) > 3. 06:43 AM - Re: Re: ACS Primer Kit (Craig > Spainhower) > 4. 07:49 AM - Re: Fiberglass wing tip installation > (Bill Naumuk) > 5. 09:23 AM - Re: Fiberglass wing tip installation > (Bryan Martin) > 6. 02:37 PM - 601XL kit for sale (swater6) > 7. 03:16 PM - R-V air vents (Southern Reflections) > 8. 05:58 PM - Re: R-V air vents (PatrickW) > 9. 06:13 PM - First Flight (dingfelder) > 10. 06:34 PM - Re: First Flight (Juan Vega) > 11. 07:12 PM - Zenair Newsletter Back Issues For Sale > (aquacolor) > 12. 08:14 PM - Re: Re: R-V air vents (Southern > Reflections) > 13. 11:09 PM - Re: First Flight (TxDave) > > > > ________________________________ Message 1 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 05:07:14 AM PST US > From: GM <planelists@optonline.net> > Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Flight Training DVD's > > Check also "Cessna Cleared for takeoff" byKing. > http://www.kingschools.com/productDetail.asp?itemNo=CPC%20KS198K > George > > . Any thoughts on what is best? Thanks. > > Dean > > ________________________________ Message 2 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 06:02:04 AM PST US > Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fiberglass wing tip installation > From: jaybannist@cs.com > > > Ron, > > I put an access plate in the aluminum wingtip plate.? I > didn't think it would need > to be opened very much, so I riveted it in place. > > Jay in Dallas > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ronald Steele <rsteele@rjsit.com> > Sent: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 9:28 pm > Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fiberglass wing tip installation > > > On a related note, has anyone used nut plates to attach the > tips? ?I'm thinking > this would allow access to strobe power supplies. ?Are > there any special requirements > for attaching nut plates to fiberglass? > > > Ron > > > ? > How you go about getting a good fit of the forward > (fiberglass) wing tip on the > 601XL? I have a couple for problems. One is how to hold > the tip in place while > drilling, as there doesn't seem to be a way to clamp > it. The other is that > it looks like I'll have to trim the skin around the > front of the tip to prevent > it extending past the curve of the fiberglass. Is this > normal? If I install > the tip so that front of the skin blends smoothly into the > tip, there is > only about 4mm of space to rivet the tip. I know this > isn't very clear. Trying > to come up with a better description.? > ? > Ron? > 601XL -wings? > ? > ? > ? > ? > > > Email message sent from CompuServe - visit us today at > http://www.cs.com > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Email message sent from CompuServe - visit us today at > http://www.cs.com > > ________________________________ Message 3 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 06:43:28 AM PST US > From: "Craig Spainhower" <n601xs@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: ACS Primer Kit > > Dan, > I used a Cessna primer for my 0-235 and determined the > inlet and outlet > by working the pump and putting a finger over each hole to > see which one > created suction or pressure. The primer inlet should > connect prior to the > fuel pumps at the top of the gascolator. > > Craig S. > N601XS > > > > > Has anyone else purchased the primer kit from > ACS. It came with no > > instructions. I'm not sure which is inlet and > which is outlet. Also > > normally do you take the fuel before the pump or > after? > > > Dan > > > > > > -------- > > Scratch building XL with Corvair Engine > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p > 8331#208331 > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 07:49:52 AM PST US > From: "Bill Naumuk" <naumuk@alltel.net> > Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fiberglass wing tip installation > > Ron- > If you plan to use pulled rivets to attach the > nutplates on the > fiberglass, you'll have to go with the comparatively > larger nutplates. > #6 or #8 are attached with a small rivet available in only > one draw size > from Wicks, which is the only outlet I could find and > probably not long > enough for your application. Expensive little puppies, too. > > If you want access, I'd put a plate in the aluminum > ala Jay. Just > guessing, but I would imagine you'd have less airflow > disruption on the > bottom of the wing. > This means nothing in your situation, but I went with > standard > position lights secured with rivnuts for bulb replacement > access, and a > belly strobe with the flash unit mounted behind the seat. > I'm not familiar with the XL setup, but would it be > possible to > extend your wiring to allow the flash unit to be mounted > inside the > cockpit? Might be the best scenario. > > Bill > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: jaybannist@cs.com > To: zenith-list@matronics.com > Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 8:59 AM > Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fiberglass wing tip > installation > > > Ron, > > I put an access plate in the aluminum wingtip plate. I > didn't think > it would need to be opened very much, so I riveted it in > place. > > Jay in Dallas > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ronald Steele <rsteele@rjsit.com> > To: zenith-list@matronics.com > Sent: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 9:28 pm > Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fiberglass wing tip > installation > > > On a related note, has anyone used nut plates to attach > the tips? I'm > thinking this would allow access to strobe power supplies. > Are there > any special requirements for attaching nut plates to > fiberglass? > > > Ron > > > > > How you go about getting a good fit of the forward > (fiberglass) wing > tip on the 601XL? I have a couple for problems. One is how > to hold the > tip in place while drilling, as there doesn't seem to > be a way to clamp > it. The other is that it looks like I'll have to trim > the skin around > the front of the tip to prevent it extending past the curve > of the > fiberglass. Is this normal? If I install the tip so that > front of the > skin blends smoothly into the tip, there is only about 4mm > of space to > rivet the tip. I know this isn't very clear. Trying to > come up with a > better description. > > Ron > 601XL -wings > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > Email message sent from CompuServe - visit us today at > http://www.cs.com > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List">http://www.matron > ics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > ontribution > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----- > Email message sent from CompuServe - visit us today at > http://www.cs.com > > > ________________________________ Message 5 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 09:23:52 AM PST US > From: Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fiberglass wing tip installation > > My strobe power supplies are mounted to the floor under the > seats. I > can get to them through the spar bolt access panel. > > On Oct 12, 2008, at 8:59 AM, jaybannist@cs.com wrote: > > > Ron, > > > > I put an access plate in the aluminum wingtip plate. > I didn't think > > it would need to be opened very much, so I riveted it > in place. > > > > Jay in Dallas > > > -- > Bryan Martin > N61BM, CH 601 XL, > RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive. > do not archive. > > > ________________________________ Message 6 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 02%


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    Time: 10:54:02 AM PST US
    From: Jimmy Mathis <tallow_98@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Zenith-List Digest: 13 Msgs - 10/12/08
    Hi guys: Can't figure out how to post, so here is my message. I have a 601XL fuselage and tail kit. Rudder is done. I have decided to build a bearhawk Patrol. my kits are for sale. $5500.00 or best offer. I have plans also. tallow_98@yahoo.com Jimmy --- On Mon, 10/13/08, Zenith-List Digest Server <zenith-list@matronics.com> wrote: > From: Zenith-List Digest Server <zenith-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Zenith-List Digest: 13 Msgs - 10/12/08 > To: "Zenith-List Digest List" <zenith-list-digest@matronics.com> > Date: Monday, October 13, 2008, 1:59 AM > * > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > =================================================


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    Time: 11:50:00 AM PST US
    From: "Jon Croke" <Jon@joncroke.com>
    Subject: Request for your video footage
    Sending again.... first one didnt go thru.. sorry if this becomes a duplicate... We need to obtain VIDEO of Zenith builders and flyers doing their thing (building, flying, etc) and compile it to a DVD to include in the next newsletter. The same type of videos that has been submitted to U-tube is exactly what we are looking for - first flights and the many other possible topics - but with the advantage of putting it on DVD so the family can gather round to watch high quality video and sound on your TV. Also, the ability to compile multiple submissions onto one disk allows a library of Zenith video history to be collected in one place for future viewing (when you need an attitude boost for getting back to building). High technology allows us at the Zenair Newsletter to edit and distribute video DVD disks with the newsletter at no additional cost to members! This is the perfect opportunity to use this medium to its fullest. What we need from you: VIDEO of you building workshop - have your significant other or children operate the video camera of YOU showing your project and describing your progress. As much as you would like to see others building - they want to see YOU, too! Provide a little self-interview of building - describe the mods you are making or techniques that others might find useful. Be funny, if you want... AND.. doesnt matter if you have 5 or 50 minutes of footage... I will edit and compile as necessary to make it work.. Raw, unedited is just FINE... I will edit. I know the footage is out there... look at the various UTube footage floating around.... I can use that! (but I need the original footage, not the compressed computer format) Im looking for first flights, last flights!, middle flights, at the airport, etc. Some of you have footage from recent Oshkosh and other shows... kids working on Zeniths... stories told first person by pilots that fly them... As I have visited fly-ins I hear amazing stories of emergency landings, engine outs and the like... talk into the camera and submit it! Some of you guys participate in EAA chapters and clubs... grab the man handy with the camera and shoot away... (keep it mostly Zenith related, tho!) It does not have to be polished or professional... sometimes a good 5 minutes of this or that is most entertaining and educational! How to get your video to me: Mail your tape to me (post office mail!) I can use either: mini-digital tape or the larger (8mm) digital tape.... or if you have video on DVD I can lift it off of that. If you have your video in an .AVI file on a CD, that is super! Dont worry if there is other stuff already on your tape (family stuff) as I will only copy off just the zenith stuff. I have the ability to edit out bad words, obscene gestures, etc so dont worry about unpolished material. I can mail the tapes/disks back to you. The understanding is that what you send me is OK to make public for the Zenith Newsletter members - just like submitting a photo. Send me as much as you wish... I will judge how much can be used, etc. I can also voice over the video if that needs to be done... just write down what we are looking at so I can accurately present the material. When do I need it: Now! as I need some time to edit and compile... but if you can't send it for a while and it misses my deadline, there is always another issue so NOTHING you send will get wasted! It doesnt matter how old your footage is... your first flight from 4 years ago is still very valuable to current builders that want to experience those moments. My address: Zenair News/Jon Croke 9186 County K Brussels, WI 54204 Can I count on something from anyone? Drop it in the mail tomorrow? (otherwise you'll only see *my* first flights..... I'll contribute that!) Feel free to email me direct if you have questions or ideas on other video topics that might work here. The DVD you just received in the current newsletter issue was just a start - it needs to be better! Thanks! Jon editor www.zenair.org


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    Time: 01:33:50 PM PST US
    From: Joe Stevenson <cpprhed144a@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Kids' project complete in Miami, see attached video
    of fly off. Thanks for posting this Juan; it is a wonderful accomplishment for all who were involved in the project.=0AJoe=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_________________________ _______=0AFrom: Juan Vega <amyvega2005@earthlink.net>=0ATo: matronic list < zenith-list-digest@matronics.com>; Zodiac Forum <zenith-list@matronics.com> =0ASent: Monday, October 20, 2008 10:43:03 AM=0ASubject: Zenith-List: Kids' project complete in Miami, see attached video of fly off.=0A=0A--> Zenith- List message posted by: Juan Vega <amyvega2005@earthlink.net>=0A=0Ahttp://v =========================0A ======================0A=0A______ om


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    Time: 01:33:50 PM PST US
    From: Joe Stevenson <cpprhed144a@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Kids' project complete in Miami, see attached video
    of fly off. Thanks for posting this Juan; it is a wonderful accomplishment for all who were involved in the project.=0AJoe=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_________________________ _______=0AFrom: Juan Vega <amyvega2005@earthlink.net>=0ATo: matronic list < zenith-list-digest@matronics.com>; Zodiac Forum <zenith-list@matronics.com> =0ASent: Monday, October 20, 2008 10:43:03 AM=0ASubject: Zenith-List: Kids' project complete in Miami, see attached video of fly off.=0A=0A--> Zenith- List message posted by: Juan Vega <amyvega2005@earthlink.net>=0A=0Ahttp://v =========================0A ======================0A=0A______ om


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    Time: 02:49:41 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Zenith-List Digest: 13 Msgs - 10/12/08
    From: "Gig Giacona" <wrgiacona@gmail.com>
    It won't be any easier to post on the Bearhawk list. DO NOT ARCHIVE -------- W.R. &quot;Gig&quot; Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 9541#209541


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    Time: 05:57:12 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Kids' project complete in Miami, see attached video of
    fly
    From: "Ron Lendon" <rlendon@comcast.net>
    Great story Juan, you should be proud for getting involved in this and making it happen. -------- Ron Lendon, Clinton Township, MI Corvair Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder ;-) http://www.mykitlog.com/rlendon Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 9578#209578


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    Time: 07:03:45 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: AVIONICS WIRING
    From: "N117FA" <N117FA@yahoo.com>
    [quote="Gig Giacona"]I looked at them when I was considering a much more complex panel. Before you buy one get a price quote for a custom harness from somebody like http://www.steinair.com/. It might well be cheaper. [quote="N117FA"]Has anyone had experience with APPROACH SPORT HUB AVIONICS WIRING SYSTEMS? Are there any flying out there? Have any connector or hub issues surfaced? Thanks, Younis Forsyth Forsyth Aviation http://www.forsythaviation.us[/quote][/quote] Thanks for the input. I like what I see from the photos at http://www.steinair.com/ if I need anything custom in the future. I actually have the Approach system in my AMD Zodiac CH650LSi and was experiencing some issues that may have to do with a connector. I was curious if anyone using this system had experienced any issues. Your Zodiac is really sharp. Excellent website with the chronicle of your build. Younis Forsyth -------- www.ForsythAviation.us Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 9590#209590




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