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4. 07:03 AM - Re: Request for your video footage (TxDave)
5. 07:17 AM - Re: Request for your video footage (Juan Vega)
6. 07:37 AM - Re: Request for your video footage (Gig Giacona)
7. 09:14 AM - Re: Request for your video footage (Elden Jacobson)
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18. 08:04 PM - Re: Request for your video footage (Juan Vega)
19. 08:05 PM - Re: Re: Request for your video footage (Juan Vega)
20. 08:05 PM - Re: Re: Request for your video footage (Juan Vega)
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http://video.nbc6.net/player/?id=763161
Jon,
see above link,
you can use this one, i don't know how to save it to disk.
Juan Vega
-----Original Message-----
>From: Jon Croke <Jon@joncroke.com>
>Sent: Oct 20, 2008 2:48 PM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Zenith-List: Request for your video footage
>
>Sending again.... first one didnt go thru.. sorry if this becomes a duplicate...
>
>We need to obtain VIDEO of Zenith builders and flyers doing their thing (building,
flying, etc) and compile it to a DVD to include in the next newsletter.
The same type of videos that has been submitted to U-tube is exactly what we are
looking for - first flights and the many other possible topics - but with the
advantage of putting it on DVD so the family can gather round to watch high
quality video and sound on your TV. Also, the ability to compile multiple submissions
onto one disk allows a library of Zenith video history to be collected
in one place for future viewing (when you need an attitude boost for getting
back to building). High technology allows us at the Zenair Newsletter to edit
and distribute video DVD disks with the newsletter at no additional cost to
members! This is the perfect opportunity to use this medium to its fullest.
>
>What we need from you:
>
>VIDEO of you building workshop - have your significant other or children operate
the video camera of YOU showing your project and describing your progress.
As much as you would like to see others building - they want to see YOU, too!
Provide a little self-interview of building - describe the mods you are making
or techniques that others might find useful. Be funny, if you want... AND..
doesnt matter if you have 5 or 50 minutes of footage... I will edit and compile
as necessary to make it work.. Raw, unedited is just FINE... I will edit.
>
>I know the footage is out there... look at the various UTube footage floating
around.... I can use that! (but I need the original footage, not the compressed
computer format) Im looking for first flights, last flights!, middle flights,
at the airport, etc. Some of you have footage from recent Oshkosh and other
shows... kids working on Zeniths... stories told first person by pilots that
fly them... As I have visited fly-ins I hear amazing stories of emergency landings,
engine outs and the like... talk into the camera and submit it!
>
>Some of you guys participate in EAA chapters and clubs... grab the man handy with
the camera and shoot away... (keep it mostly Zenith related, tho!) It does
not have to be polished or professional... sometimes a good 5 minutes of this
or that is most entertaining and educational!
>
>How to get your video to me:
>
>Mail your tape to me (post office mail!) I can use either: mini-digital tape or
the larger (8mm) digital tape.... or if you have video on DVD I can lift it
off of that. If you have your video in an .AVI file on a CD, that is super! Dont
worry if there is other stuff already on your tape (family stuff) as I will
only copy off just the zenith stuff. I have the ability to edit out bad words,
obscene gestures, etc so dont worry about unpolished material. I can mail
the tapes/disks back to you. The understanding is that what you send me is OK
to make public for the Zenith Newsletter members - just like submitting a photo.
Send me as much as you wish... I will judge how much can be used, etc. I
can also voice over the video if that needs to be done... just write down what
we are looking at so I can accurately present the material.
>
>When do I need it:
>Now! as I need some time to edit and compile... but if you can't send it for
a while and it misses my deadline, there is always another issue so NOTHING you
send will get wasted! It doesnt matter how old your footage is... your first
flight from 4 years ago is still very valuable to current builders that want
to experience those moments.
>
>My address:
>
>Zenair News/Jon Croke
>9186 County K
>Brussels, WI 54204
>
>Can I count on something from anyone? Drop it in the mail tomorrow? (otherwise
you'll only see *my* first flights..... I'll contribute that!)
>Feel free to email me direct if you have questions or ideas on other video topics
that might work here. The DVD you just received in the current newsletter
issue was just a start - it needs to be better!
>
>Thanks!
>Jon
>editor www.zenair.org
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http://video.nbc6.net/player/?id=763161
Juan
-----Original Message-----
>From: Jon Croke <Jon@joncroke.com>
>Sent: Oct 20, 2008 2:48 PM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Zenith-List: Request for your video footage
>
>Sending again.... first one didnt go thru.. sorry if this becomes a duplicate...
>
>We need to obtain VIDEO of Zenith builders and flyers doing their thing (building,
flying, etc) and compile it to a DVD to include in the next newsletter.
The same type of videos that has been submitted to U-tube is exactly what we are
looking for - first flights and the many other possible topics - but with the
advantage of putting it on DVD so the family can gather round to watch high
quality video and sound on your TV. Also, the ability to compile multiple submissions
onto one disk allows a library of Zenith video history to be collected
in one place for future viewing (when you need an attitude boost for getting
back to building). High technology allows us at the Zenair Newsletter to edit
and distribute video DVD disks with the newsletter at no additional cost to
members! This is the perfect opportunity to use this medium to its fullest.
>
>What we need from you:
>
>VIDEO of you building workshop - have your significant other or children operate
the video camera of YOU showing your project and describing your progress.
As much as you would like to see others building - they want to see YOU, too!
Provide a little self-interview of building - describe the mods you are making
or techniques that others might find useful. Be funny, if you want... AND..
doesnt matter if you have 5 or 50 minutes of footage... I will edit and compile
as necessary to make it work.. Raw, unedited is just FINE... I will edit.
>
>I know the footage is out there... look at the various UTube footage floating
around.... I can use that! (but I need the original footage, not the compressed
computer format) Im looking for first flights, last flights!, middle flights,
at the airport, etc. Some of you have footage from recent Oshkosh and other
shows... kids working on Zeniths... stories told first person by pilots that
fly them... As I have visited fly-ins I hear amazing stories of emergency landings,
engine outs and the like... talk into the camera and submit it!
>
>Some of you guys participate in EAA chapters and clubs... grab the man handy with
the camera and shoot away... (keep it mostly Zenith related, tho!) It does
not have to be polished or professional... sometimes a good 5 minutes of this
or that is most entertaining and educational!
>
>How to get your video to me:
>
>Mail your tape to me (post office mail!) I can use either: mini-digital tape or
the larger (8mm) digital tape.... or if you have video on DVD I can lift it
off of that. If you have your video in an .AVI file on a CD, that is super! Dont
worry if there is other stuff already on your tape (family stuff) as I will
only copy off just the zenith stuff. I have the ability to edit out bad words,
obscene gestures, etc so dont worry about unpolished material. I can mail
the tapes/disks back to you. The understanding is that what you send me is OK
to make public for the Zenith Newsletter members - just like submitting a photo.
Send me as much as you wish... I will judge how much can be used, etc. I
can also voice over the video if that needs to be done... just write down what
we are looking at so I can accurately present the material.
>
>When do I need it:
>Now! as I need some time to edit and compile... but if you can't send it for
a while and it misses my deadline, there is always another issue so NOTHING you
send will get wasted! It doesnt matter how old your footage is... your first
flight from 4 years ago is still very valuable to current builders that want
to experience those moments.
>
>My address:
>
>Zenair News/Jon Croke
>9186 County K
>Brussels, WI 54204
>
>Can I count on something from anyone? Drop it in the mail tomorrow? (otherwise
you'll only see *my* first flights..... I'll contribute that!)
>Feel free to email me direct if you have questions or ideas on other video topics
that might work here. The DVD you just received in the current newsletter
issue was just a start - it needs to be better!
>
>Thanks!
>Jon
>editor www.zenair.org
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Juan,
Is that your XL in the background?
Jay in Dallas
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: Juan Vega <amyvega2005@earthlink.net>
Sent: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 8:01 am
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Request for your video footage
http://video.nbc6.net/player/?id=763161
Jon,
see above link,
you can use this one, i don't know how to save it to disk.
Juan Vega
-----Original Message-----
>From: Jon Croke <Jon@joncroke.com>
>Sent: Oct 20, 2008 2:48 PM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Zenith-List: Request for your video footage
>
>Sending again.... first one didnt go thru.. sorry if this becomes a
duplicate...
>
>We need to obtain VIDEO of Zenith builders and flyers doing their thing
(building, flying, etc) and compile it to a DVD to include in the next
newsletter. The same type of videos that has been submitted to U-tube is
exactly what we are looking for - first flights and the many other possible
topics - but with the advantage of putting it on DVD so the family can gather
round to watch high quality video and sound on your TV. Also, the ability to
compile multiple submissions onto one disk allows a library of Zenith video
history to be collected in one place for future viewing (when you need an
attitude boost for getting back to building). High technology allows us at the
Zenair Newsletter to edit and distribute video DVD disks with the newsletter at
no additional cost to members! This is the perfect opportunity to use this
medium to its fullest.
>
>What we need from you:
>
>VIDEO of you building workshop - have your significant other or children
operate the video camera of YOU showing your project and describing your
progress. As much as you would like to see others building - they want to see
YOU, too! Provide a little self-interview of building - describe the mods you
are making or techniques that others might find useful. Be funny, if you
want... AND.. doesnt matter if you have 5 or 50 minutes of footage... I will
edit and compile as necessary to make it work.. Raw, unedited is just FINE...
I
will edit.
>
>I know the footage is out there... look at the various UTube footage floating
around.... I can use that! (but I need the original footage, not the compressed
computer format) Im looking for first flights, last flights!, middle flights, at
the airport, etc. Some of you have footage from recent Oshkosh and other
shows... kids working on Zeniths... stories told first person by pilots that fly
them... As I have visited fly-ins I hear amazing stories of emergency landings,
engine outs and the like... talk into the camera and submit it!
>
>Some of you guys participate in EAA chapters and clubs... grab the man handy
with the camera and shoot away... (keep it mostly Zenith related, tho!) It does
not have to be polished or professional... sometimes a good 5 minutes of this or
that is most entertaining and educational!
>
>How to get your video to me:
>
>Mail your tape to me (post office mail!) I can use either: mini-digital tape or
the larger (8mm) digital tape.... or if you have video on DVD I can lift it off
of that. If you have your video in an .AVI file on a CD, that is super! Dont
worry if there is other stuff already on your tape (family stuff) as I will only
copy off just the zenith stuff. I have the ability to edit out bad words,
obscene gestures, etc so dont worry about unpolished material. I can mail the
tapes/disks back to you. The understanding is that what you send me is OK to
make public for the Zenith Newsletter members - just like submitting a photo.
Send me as much as you wish... I will judge how much can be used, etc. I can
also voice over the video if that needs to be done... just write down what we
are looking at so I can accurately present the material.
>
>When do I need it:
>Now! as I need some time to edit and compile... but if you can't send it for
a
while and it misses my deadline, there is always another issue so NOTHING you
send will get wasted! It doesnt matter how old your footage is... your first
flight from 4 years ago is still very valuable to current builders that want to
experience those moments.
>
>My address:
>
>Zenair News/Jon Croke
>9186 County K
>Brussels, WI 54204
>
>Can I count on something from anyone? Drop it in the mail tomorrow? (otherwise
you'll only see *my* first flights..... I'll contribute that!)
>Feel free to email me direct if you have questions or ideas on other video
topics that might work here. The DVD you just received in the current newsletter
issue was just a start - it needs to be better!
>
>Thanks!
>Jon
>editor www.zenair.org
________________________________________________________________________
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Juan,
My wife walked in as I was watching your video and said "oh my, he's a hottie".
Just thought I'd pass that along.
There is a website that lets you download and save most videos from the web. I've
saved a lot of 601 videos from youtube using this site.
http://keepvid.com/
Dave Clay
Temple, TX
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 9651#209651
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Jay in dallas,
yep it is. it was interesting to fly mine with a 3300 jab engine, then hop into
the 0-200 powered one, big difference.
Juan
-----Original Message-----
>From: jaybannist@cs.com
>Sent: Oct 21, 2008 9:21 AM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Request for your video footage
>
>
> Juan,
>
>Is that your XL in the background?
>
>Jay in Dallas
>do not archive
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Juan Vega <amyvega2005@earthlink.net>
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Sent: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 8:01 am
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Request for your video footage
>
>
>
>http://video.nbc6.net/player/?id=763161
>
>Jon,
>see above link,
>you can use this one, i don't know how to save it to disk.
>
>Juan Vega
>
>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Jon Croke <Jon@joncroke.com>
>>Sent: Oct 20, 2008 2:48 PM
>>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: Zenith-List: Request for your video footage
>>
>>Sending again.... first one didnt go thru.. sorry if this becomes a
>duplicate...
>>
>>We need to obtain VIDEO of Zenith builders and flyers doing their thing
>(building, flying, etc) and compile it to a DVD to include in the next
>newsletter. The same type of videos that has been submitted to U-tube is
>exactly what we are looking for - first flights and the many other possible
>topics - but with the advantage of putting it on DVD so the family can gather
>round to watch high quality video and sound on your TV. Also, the ability to
>compile multiple submissions onto one disk allows a library of Zenith video
>history to be collected in one place for future viewing (when you need an
>attitude boost for getting back to building). High technology allows us at the
>Zenair Newsletter to edit and distribute video DVD disks with the newsletter at
>no additional cost to members! This is the perfect opportunity to use this
>medium to its fullest.
>>
>>What we need from you:
>>
>>VIDEO of you building workshop - have your significant other or children
>operate the video camera of YOU showing your project and describing your
>progress. As much as you would like to see others building - they want to see
>YOU, too! Provide a little self-interview of building - describe the mods you
>are making or techniques that others might find useful. Be funny, if you
>want... AND.. doesnt matter if you have 5 or 50 minutes of footage... I will
>edit and compile as necessary to make it work.. Raw, unedited is just FINE...
I
>will edit.
>>
>>I know the footage is out there... look at the various UTube footage floating
>around.... I can use that! (but I need the original footage, not the compressed
>computer format) Im looking for first flights, last flights!, middle flights,
at
>the airport, etc. Some of you have footage from recent Oshkosh and other
>shows... kids working on Zeniths... stories told first person by pilots that fly
>them... As I have visited fly-ins I hear amazing stories of emergency landings,
>engine outs and the like... talk into the camera and submit it!
>>
>>Some of you guys participate in EAA chapters and clubs... grab the man handy
>with the camera and shoot away... (keep it mostly Zenith related, tho!) It does
>not have to be polished or professional... sometimes a good 5 minutes of this
or
>that is most entertaining and educational!
>>
>>How to get your video to me:
>>
>>Mail your tape to me (post office mail!) I can use either: mini-digital tape
or
>the larger (8mm) digital tape.... or if you have video on DVD I can lift it off
>of that. If you have your video in an .AVI file on a CD, that is super! Dont
>worry if there is other stuff already on your tape (family stuff) as I will only
>copy off just the zenith stuff. I have the ability to edit out bad words,
>obscene gestures, etc so dont worry about unpolished material. I can mail the
>tapes/disks back to you. The understanding is that what you send me is OK to
>make public for the Zenith Newsletter members - just like submitting a photo.
>Send me as much as you wish... I will judge how much can be used, etc. I can
>also voice over the video if that needs to be done... just write down what we
>are looking at so I can accurately present the material.
>>
>>When do I need it:
>>Now! as I need some time to edit and compile... but if you can't send it for
a
>while and it misses my deadline, there is always another issue so NOTHING you
>send will get wasted! It doesnt matter how old your footage is... your first
>flight from 4 years ago is still very valuable to current builders that want to
>experience those moments.
>>
>>My address:
>>
>>Zenair News/Jon Croke
>>9186 County K
>>Brussels, WI 54204
>>
>>Can I count on something from anyone? Drop it in the mail tomorrow? (otherwise
>you'll only see *my* first flights..... I'll contribute that!)
>>Feel free to email me direct if you have questions or ideas on other video
>topics that might work here. The DVD you just received in the current newsletter
>issue was just a start - it needs to be better!
>>
>>Thanks!
>>Jon
>>editor www.zenair.org
>
>
>
>
>________________________________________________________________________
>Email message sent from CompuServe - visit us today at http://www.cs.com
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amyvega2005(at)earthlink. wrote:
> Jay in dallas,
>
> yep it is. it was interesting to fly mine with a 3300 jab engine, then hop into
the 0-200 powered one, big difference.
> Juan
>
> --
Different how?
--------
W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 9655#209655
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Juan:
-
Different how?
-
Elden Jacobson
xl, 3300
--- On Tue, 10/21/08, Juan Vega <amyvega2005@earthlink.net> wrote:
From: Juan Vega <amyvega2005@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Request for your video footage
<amyvega2005@earthlink.net>
Jay in dallas,
yep it is. it was interesting to fly mine with a 3300 jab engine, then hop
into the 0-200 powered one, big difference.
Juan
-----Original Message-----
>From: jaybannist@cs.com
>Sent: Oct 21, 2008 9:21 AM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Request for your video footage
>
>
> Juan,
>
>Is that your XL in the background?
>
>Jay in Dallas
>do not archive
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Juan Vega <amyvega2005@earthlink.net>
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Sent: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 8:01 am
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Request for your video footage
>
>
<amyvega2005@earthlink.net>
>
>http://video.nbc6.net/player/?id=763161
>
>Jon,
>see above link,
>you can use this one, i don't know how to save it to disk.
>
>Juan Vega
>
>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Jon Croke <Jon@joncroke.com>
>>Sent: Oct 20, 2008 2:48 PM
>>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: Zenith-List: Request for your video footage
>>
>>Sending again.... first one didnt go thru.. sorry if this becomes a
>duplicate...
>>
>>We need to obtain VIDEO of Zenith builders and flyers doing their thing
>(building, flying, etc) and compile it to a DVD to include in the next
>newsletter. The same type of videos that has been submitted to U-tube is
>exactly what we are looking for - first flights and the many other possibl
e
>topics - but with the advantage of putting it on DVD so the family can
gather
>round to watch high quality video and sound on your TV. Also, the ability
to
>compile multiple submissions onto one disk allows a library of Zenith vide
o
>history to be collected in one place for future viewing (when you need an
>attitude boost for getting back to building). High technology allows us a
t
the
>Zenair Newsletter to edit and distribute video DVD disks with the
newsletter at
>no additional cost to members! This is the perfect opportunity to use thi
s
>medium to its fullest.
>>
>>What we need from you:
>>
>>VIDEO of you building workshop - have your significant other or
children
>operate the video camera of YOU showing your project and describing your
>progress. As much as you would like to see others building - they want to
see
>YOU, too! Provide a little self-interview of building - describe the mods
you
>are making or techniques that others might find useful. Be funny, if you
>want... AND.. doesnt matter if you have 5 or 50 minutes of footage... I
will
>edit and compile as necessary to make it work.. Raw, unedited is just
FINE... I
>will edit.
>>
>>I know the footage is out there... look at the various UTube footage
floating
>around.... I can use that! (but I need the original footage, not the
compressed
>computer format) Im looking for first flights, last flights!, middle
flights, at
>the airport, etc. Some of you have footage from recent Oshkosh and other
>shows... kids working on Zeniths... stories told first person by pilots
that fly
>them... As I have visited fly-ins I hear amazing stories of emergency
landings,
>engine outs and the like... talk into the camera and submit it!
>>
>>Some of you guys participate in EAA chapters and clubs... grab the man
handy
>with the camera and shoot away... (keep it mostly Zenith related, tho!) It
does
>not have to be polished or professional... sometimes a good 5 minutes of
this or
>that is most entertaining and educational!
>>
>>How to get your video to me:
>>
>>Mail your tape to me (post office mail!) I can use either: mini-digital
tape or
>the larger (8mm) digital tape.... or if you have video on DVD I can lift i
t
off
>of that. If you have your video in an .AVI file on a CD, that is super!
Dont
>worry if there is other stuff already on your tape (family stuff) as I wil
l
only
>copy off just the zenith stuff. I have the ability to edit out bad words,
>obscene gestures, etc so dont worry about unpolished material. I can mail
the
>tapes/disks back to you. The understanding is that what you send me is OK
to
>make public for the Zenith Newsletter members - just like submitting a
photo.
>Send me as much as you wish... I will judge how much can be used, etc. I
can
>also voice over the video if that needs to be done... just write down what
we
>are looking at so I can accurately present the material.
>>
>>When do I need it:
>>Now! as I need some time to edit and compile... but if you can't
send it for a
>while and it misses my deadline, there is always another issue so NOTHING
you
>send will get wasted! It doesnt matter how old your footage is... your
first
>flight from 4 years ago is still very valuable to current builders that
want to
>experience those moments.
>>
>>My address:
>>
>>Zenair News/Jon Croke
>>9186 County K
>>Brussels, WI 54204
>>
>>Can I count on something from anyone? Drop it in the mail tomorrow?
(otherwise
>you'll only see *my* first flights..... I'll contribute that!)
>>Feel free to email me direct if you have questions or ideas on other
video
>topics that might work here. The DVD you just received in the current
newsletter
>issue was just a start - it needs to be better!
>>
>>Thanks!
>>Jon
>>editor www.zenair.org
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy Safety |
Jay, the canopy popped open on the right side and I was alone. It was during the
phase 1 fly off and I either didn't check it or only half locked it ? As I pulled
off on take off the right side popped up, scared the hell out of me, and
I switched hands real quick and grabbed the canopy with my right hand and held
it down to top of climb. I have dual sticks so I could fly left handed or with
my knees. I had previously installed door handles on the inside of the canopy
sides to help guide them into the lugs so I tried with two hands to re latch
it, but could not pull it on down. I chopped power and was probably flying about
- 60 mph and still could not get it to re latch. I took the passenger seat
belt and routed it through the handle and cinched it down pretty snug and continued
on with my test flight. I was very surprised that I could not re latch
to thing while flying even at stall speeds. I now always double check the latches
before takeoff. As to the three step process to
egress the plane. You might consider whether you could?control the plane, find
the pin, un belt yourself and do what you need to,?etc and get out say blind
from smoke and holding your breath? For me the popping canopy concern is correctable
with good and diligent preflight checks. While adding another thing along
with safety belts, the safe egress of my passenger (sometimes grand babies
I'd die for) to exiting the plane in an emergency would not be something I'd want.
With the pin behind the passenger seat can the passenger find and pull them
if the left seat guy can't? Just some thoughts and best regards, Bill
-----Original Message-----
From: jaybannist@cs.com
Sent: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 12:13 pm
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Canopy Safety
Bill,
Just curious.? Were you alone when the canopy came open?
I have heard other accounts of canopies coming open, all with single occupants,
and it being manageable.? And I am guessing that AMD tested a canopy un-latch
with a single test pilot.? They say the canopy will only open a foot or so.?
I am beginning to think that the drastic action of the canopy in my case might
have been because there were two aboard.
No, it would not be possible to open the canopy with the safety cable in place
and pinned. Emergency exit would be a three step
process: 1) pull the safety cable pin, 2) unlatch and open the canopy, 3) unlatch
seat belt, and get the hell out! (approximately the same as a normal exit,
only faster!)?
In your example fo smoke or fire, my fire extinguisher is located in the baggage
area just behind the passenger seat, very near the safety cable pin. After pulling
the pin, I would have to decide whether to employ the extinguisher or just
get out.
Jay in Dallas
-----Original Message-----
From: japhillipsga@aol.com
Sent: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:34 am
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Canopy Safety
Jay, I too have had my XL canopy open while flying. A problem, but manageable.
If I had the center yoke control it might not have been. Question is can you exit
the plane quickly with the cable attached. Say a fire, smoke filled cockpit
while taxing, etc? Best regards, Bill of Georgia??
-----Original Message-----
From: jaybannist@cs.com
Sent: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 3:57 pm
Subject: Zenith-List: Canopy Safety
As you may know, the canopy of the AMD 601XLi I was flying came open; flew up to
about 50 degrees and the airplane became uncontrollable. As soon as I had recovered
enough to get around, the very first thing I did was to install a safety
cable to the canopy of my airplane, Lil Bruiser. I have attached drawing of
what I installed.? I made the cable just long enough, when pinned, that the canopy
can be open a little for taxi on hot days. I am probably going to add a
removable nylon strap that will be long enough to help pull the canopy down when
seated.? Let me know if you have any questions.
Jay in Dallas
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy Safety |
Bill,
The plate that the safety cable is pinned to is fastened to the cross member that
is near the top of the seats and is between the seats.? Both occupants have
equal access to the pin.
I'm now thinking that having two aboard has a lot to do with how far an open canopy
will rise.
Jay in Dallas
-----Original Message-----
From: japhillipsga@aol.com
Sent: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 12:42 pm
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Canopy Safety
Jay, the canopy popped open on the right side and I was alone. It was during the
phase 1 fly off and I either didn't check it or only half locked it ? As I pulled
off on take off the right side popped up, scared the hell out of me, and
I switched hands real quick and grabbed the canopy with my right hand and held
it down to top of climb. I have dual sticks so I could fly left handed or with
my knees. I had previously installed door handles on the inside of the canopy
sides to help guide them into the lugs so I tried with two hands to re latch
it, but could not pull it on down. I chopped power and was probably flying about
- 60 mph and still could not get it to re latch. I took the passenger seat
belt and routed it through the handle and cinched it down pretty snug and continued
on with my test flight. I was very surprised that I could not re latch
to thing while flying even at stall speeds. I now always double check the latches
before takeoff. As to the three step proces
s to egress the plane. You might consider whether you could?control the plane,
find the pin, un belt yourself and do what you need to,?etc and get out say blind
from smoke and holding your breath? For me the popping canopy concern is
correctable with good and diligent preflight checks. While adding another thing
along with safety belts, the safe egress of my passenger (sometimes grand babies
I'd die for) to exiting the plane in an emergency would not be something
I'd want. With the pin behind the passenger seat can the passenger find and pull
them if the left seat guy can't? Just some thoughts and best regards, Bill
-----Original Message-----
From: jaybannist@cs.com
Sent: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 12:13 pm
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Canopy Safety
Bill,
Just curious.? Were you alone when the canopy came open?
I have heard other accounts of canopies coming open, all with single occupants,
and it being manageable.? And I am guessing that AMD tested a canopy un-latch
with a single test pilot.? They say the canopy will only open a foot or so.?
I am beginning to think that the drastic action of the canopy in my case might
have been because there were two aboard.
No, it would not be possible to open the canopy with the safety cable in place
and pinned. Emergency exit would be a three step
process: 1) pull the safety cable pin, 2) unlatch and open the canopy, 3) unlatch
seat belt, and get the hell out! (approximately the same as a normal exit,
only faster!)?
In your example fo smoke or fire, my fire extinguisher is located in the baggage
area just behind the passenger seat, very near the safety cable pin. After pulling
the pin, I would have to decide whether to employ the extinguisher or just
get out.
Jay in Dallas
-----Original Message-----
From: japhillipsga@aol.com
Sent: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:34 am
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Canopy Safety
Jay, I too have had my XL canopy open while flying. A problem, but manageable.
If I had the center yoke control it might not have been. Question is can you exit
the plane quickly with the cable attached. Say a fire, smoke filled cockpit
while taxing, etc? Best regards, Bill of Georgia??
-----Original Message-----
From: jaybannist@cs.com
Sent: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 3:57 pm
Subject: Zenith-List: Canopy Safety
As you may know, the canopy of the AMD 601XLi I was flying came open; flew up to
about 50 degrees and the airplane became uncontrollable. As soon as I had recovered
enough to get around, the very first thing I did was to install a safety
cable to the canopy of my airplane, Lil Bruiser. I have attached drawing of
what I installed.? I made the cable just long enough, when pinned, that the canopy
can be open a little for taxi on hot days. I am probably going to add a
removable nylon strap that will be long enough to help pull the canopy down when
seated.? Let me know if you have any questions.
Jay in Dallas
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My landing gear bungees now sag enough to raise the strut plate a
good 1/2" above the wing surface when parked. This is relatively new.
These bungees were purchased with the kit circa 1995 ... I guess it's
time to replace them even though the airframe is still low
time ....? Is there a "specification" for how much sag is allowed?
Does anyone have a good source for these bungees? I recall
discussions a few years ago where there were some issues finding new
bungees of the appropriate length. Is this still a problem?
Thanks in advance
Grant
GHTF - 601HDS w/ CAM100
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Hello friends,
Anyone out there flying an XL behind an UL 260 engine? Any comment would be
great.
This is the engine: http://www.ulpower.com/
Alberto Martin
www.iberplanes.es
Igualada - Barcelona - Spain
----------------------------------------------
Zodiac 601 XL Builder
Serial: 6-7011
Tail Kit: Finished
Wings: Just Started
Fuselage: Ordered
Engine: Jabiru 3300
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| Subject: | Re: UL 260 Engine |
Hi Alberto,
I took a look at the web site for the UL 260 engine. I didn't know
anything about it before looking just now.
One thing that I noticed is the engine is a very new design with very
few already manufactured and shipped. This may not be a problem, but
suggests the market acceptance of this engine is not yet very
good. There are inevitable "Teething" pains that must be overcome
with any new design. It may be that this period is not yet over for
this engine. I didn't see where the engine was manufactured, but the
price in Euros suggested perhaps it is some place in Europe. You may
or may not have difficulties getting normal maintenance parts.
The performance specifications suggest this engine is more powerful
than a Rotax 912 or Jabiru 2200 but less than a 912S and a lot less
than a 3300. I guess it is sufficient for a Zodiac XL if you really
want the features of this design.
The price and weight are similar to a Jabiru 3300 but the power is
significantly less. The basic configuration is similar with direct
drive and air only cooling, The obvious differences include 4
cylinders rather than 6 and fuel injection rather than carburetor. I
think the fuel injection is highly desirable for smooth and trouble
free operation, but the 4 cylinder will certainly vibrate more than a 6.
I don't know of anyone producing a FWF kit for this engine and the
Zodiac. That means you need to come up with some significant parts
like engine mount and cowl. There are also lesser parts like voltage
regulator, starter solenoid, and battery choices to deal with. You
can buy all this stuff already packaged for the Jabiru or Rotax engine choices.
I chose the Jabiru 3300 for my plane, so I am biased. Still, I think
it would be wise for you to consider the two engines feature for
feature before deciding which one best fits your needs.
Good luck,
Paul
XL getting close
At 01:44 PM 10/21/2008, you wrote:
>Hello friends,
>
>Anyone out there flying an XL behind an UL 260 engine? Any comment
>would be great.
>
>
>This is the engine: <http://www.ulpower.com/>http://www.ulpower.com/
>
>
>Alberto Martin
><http://www.iberplanes.es>www.iberplanes.es
>Igualada - Barcelona - Spain
>
>----------------------------------------------
>Zodiac 601 XL Builder
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| Subject: | Re: 601 HDS bungees |
Grant, Zenith says they are 1080HD bungees. ACS has them listed as
Mill Fresh Shock Rings
<http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/lgpages/shock_rings.php> size
1080HD for $19.30 each.
Leo Gates
N601Z - CH601HDS TDO
Rotax 912UL
Grant Corriveau wrote:
> <grant.corriveau@telus.net>
>
> My landing gear bungees now sag enough to raise the strut plate a good
> 1/2" above the wing surface when parked. This is relatively new.
>
> These bungees were purchased with the kit circa 1995 ... I guess it's
> time to replace them even though the airframe is still low time ....?
> Is there a "specification" for how much sag is allowed?
>
> Does anyone have a good source for these bungees? I recall
> discussions a few years ago where there were some issues finding new
> bungees of the appropriate length. Is this still a problem?
>
> Thanks in advance
> Grant
> GHTF - 601HDS w/ CAM100
>
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| Subject: | Which Of Two STOL CH7XX Building Choices? |
Hi guys,
I was planing on building a 701 after my Sonex is completed (probably a good year
and a half away). The engine I was planing on putting in it is the 2300cc
VW with Redrive from Great Plains/Valley Engineering. it pumps out 105 hp and
swings a pretty big prop. I have heard many good reports from this combination.
I was planing on increasing the gross to 1200 lbs to give me close to 600
lbs useful load. (not the best idea going over recommended gross, but many have
done it with the 701 successfully).
Here is the thing. I'm a big guy and while I fit in the 701, the 750 has MUCH
more room. So that got me thinking of going with the 750/Corvair combination.
Simple enough, but the useful load drops to 545 (if I am lucky and build light).
So that got me thinking ab out using the same GPAS/Valley Engineering redrive
combo for the 750, since it pumps out more than the 100 hp of the Continental.
It seems to be a pretty decent direct replacement for the 912ULS (like
the Corvair is for the 0-200). I figure that I would get at least 40 lbs useful
load from it. I am not concerned if my cruise drops a little, if I want to
go fast I will use the sonex.
What do you guys think? Would love to hear opinions on this matter.
Jon
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| Subject: | Re: Which Of Two STOL CH7XX Building Choices? |
I=A2d reconsider using the 2300 VW w/Redrive package you=A2ve mentioned due
to cylinder head temp and service life issues. The 105 HP you=A2ve mention
ed is at take off only, you then drop back to a significantly less HP level
at cruise. Using added power to climb or maintain a higher cruise speed or
when at or near GW will result in a significant thermal heat transfer to t
he cylinder heads that they are not designed to carry. This of course will
shorten TBO or more to the point require you to replace cylinder heads very
rapidly. =0A-=0AWhile I think this engine package is a doable one in the
701 as long as you know how to take care of it I don=A2t think it=A2s a vi
able package for the 750. I=A2d be more inclined to use a Corvair, C-90 or
0200 in either of these aircraft instead of the 2300 VW w/Redrive. Hope I h
aven=A2t offended you, just my .02 worth after a lot of research. FWIW I am
a tremendous fan and advocate of the 2180 and 2300 VW aircraft engines and
plan on using a 2180 on a build. =0AJoe S.=0A-=0ADo not archive please
=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: mcjon77 <mcjon77@ya
hoo.com>=0ATo: zenith-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008
6:58:41 PM=0ASubject: Zenith-List: Which Of Two STOL CH7XX Building Choices
=0AHi guys,=0A=0AI was planing on building a 701 after my Sonex is complete
d (probably a good year and a half away).- The engine I was planing on pu
tting in it is the 2300cc VW with Redrive from Great Plains/Valley Engineer
ing.- it pumps out 105 hp and swings a pretty big prop.- I have heard m
any good reports from this combination.- I was planing on increasing the
gross to 1200 lbs to give me close to 600 lbs useful load.- (not the best
idea going over recommended gross, but many have done it with the 701 succ
essfully).=0A=0AHere is the thing.- I'm a big guy and while I fit in the
701, the 750 has MUCH more room.- So that got me thinking of going with t
he 750/Corvair combination.- Simple enough, but the useful load drops to
545 (if I am lucky and build light).- So that got me thinking ab out usin
g the same GPAS/Valley Engineering redrive combo for the 750, since it pump
s out more than the 100 hp of the Continental.- It seems to be a pretty d
ecent direct replacement for the 912ULS (like the Corvair is for the 0-200)
.- I figure that I would get at least 40 lbs useful load from it.- I am
not concerned if my cruise drops a little, if I want to go fast I will use
the sonex.=0A=0AWhat do you guys think?- Would love to hear opinions on
this matter.=0A=0AJon=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp:
//forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 9754#209754=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A
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| Subject: | Re: UL 260 Engine |
I don't know of any XL flying with the UL 260, but I know there is a least one
Sonex driver flying with one. His name is John Davis and supposedly, he's very
happy with it.
do not archive
Dave Clay
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| Subject: | Which Of Two STOL CH7XX Building Choices? |
Jon;
Ya, Joes right, I have trouble just cooling a 2180 cc engine, the 105HP is
only available for a few minutes. But...
Why not use the Great Plains 2300 CC VW engine with aluminum cylinders? It
puts out 85 HP and weighs a lot less than a corvair engine (about 60 pounds)
and you can
get true duel ignition system (not available on corvairs).
Roger
_____
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[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Joe Stevenson
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Which Of Two STOL CH7XX Building Choices?
I?d reconsider using the 2300 VW w/Redrive package you?ve mentioned due to
cylinder head temp and service life issues. The 105 HP you?ve mentioned is
at take off only, you then drop back to a significantly less HP level at
cruise. Using added power to climb or maintain a higher cruise speed or when
at or near GW will result in a significant thermal heat transfer to the
cylinder heads that they are not designed to carry. This of course will
shorten TBO or more to the point require you to replace cylinder heads very
rapidly.
While I think this engine package is a doable one in the 701 as long as you
know how to take care of it I don?t think it?s a viable package for the 750.
I?d be more inclined to use a Corvair, C-90 or 0200 in either of these
aircraft instead of the 2300 VW w/Redrive. Hope I haven?t offended you, just
my .02 worth after a lot of research. FWIW I am a tremendous fan and
advocate of the 2180 and 2300 VW aircraft engines and plan on using a 2180
on a build.
Joe S.
Do not archive please
_____
From: mcjon77 <mcjon77@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 6:58:41 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Which Of Two STOL CH7XX Building Choices?
Hi guys,
I was planing on building a 701 after my Sonex is completed (probably a good
year and a half away). The engine I was planing on putting in it is the
2300cc VW with Redrive from Great Plains/Valley Engineering. it pumps out
105 hp and swings a pretty big prop. I have heard many good reports from
this combination. I was planing on increasing the gross to 1200 lbs to give
me close to 600 lbs useful load. (not the best idea going over recommended
gross, but many have done it with the 701 successfully).
Here is the thing. I'm a big guy and while I fit in the 701, the 750 has
MUCH more room. So that got me thinking of going with the 750/Corvair
combination. Simple enough, but the useful load drops to 545 (if I am lucky
and build light). So that got me thinking ab out using the same GPAS/Valley
Engineering redrive combo for the 750, since it pumps out more than the 100
hp of the Continental. It seems to be a pretty decent direct replacement
for the 912ULS (like the Corvair is for the 0-200). I figure that I would
get at least 40 lbs useful load from it. I am not concerned if my cruise
drops a little, if I want to go fast I will use the sonex.
What do you guys think? Would love to hear opinions on this matter.
Jon
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| Subject: | Re: Request for your video footage |
weight and balance and Power. the 0-200 is a little heavy in the nose, the 3300
is much higher torque and you feel it at take off and in climb. 400 fpm on the
0-200 at 70 mph climb out, versus 3300 went up at 1100 fpm at 70 mph with two
aboard at climb out. much less vibration than the 0-200.
Lower RPM is felt also.
Juan
-----Original Message-----
>From: Elden Jacobson <eldenej@yahoo.com>
>Sent: Oct 21, 2008 12:12 PM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Request for your video footage
>
>Juan:
>
>Different how?
>
>Elden Jacobson
>xl, 3300
>
>--- On Tue, 10/21/08, Juan Vega <amyvega2005@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>From: Juan Vega <amyvega2005@earthlink.net>
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Request for your video footage
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 10:14 PM
>
><amyvega2005@earthlink.net>
>
>Jay in dallas,
>
>yep it is. it was interesting to fly mine with a 3300 jab engine, then hop
>into the 0-200 powered one, big difference.
>Juan
>
>-----Original Message-----
>>From: jaybannist@cs.com
>>Sent: Oct 21, 2008 9:21 AM
>>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Request for your video footage
>>
>>
>> Juan,
>>
>>Is that your XL in the background?
>>
>>Jay in Dallas
>>do not archive
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Juan Vega <amyvega2005@earthlink.net>
>>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>>Sent: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 8:01 am
>>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Request for your video footage
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
><amyvega2005@earthlink.net>
>>
>>http://video.nbc6.net/player/?id=763161
>>
>>Jon,
>>see above link,
>>you can use this one, i don't know how to save it to disk.
>>
>>Juan Vega
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Jon Croke <Jon@joncroke.com>
>>>Sent: Oct 20, 2008 2:48 PM
>>>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>>>Subject: Zenith-List: Request for your video footage
>>>
>>>Sending again.... first one didnt go thru.. sorry if this becomes a
>>duplicate...
>>>
>>>We need to obtain VIDEO of Zenith builders and flyers doing their thing
>
>>(building, flying, etc) and compile it to a DVD to include in the next
>>newsletter. The same type of videos that has been submitted to U-tube is
>>exactly what we are looking for - first flights and the many other possible
>
>>topics - but with the advantage of putting it on DVD so the family can
>gather
>>round to watch high quality video and sound on your TV. Also, the ability
>to
>>compile multiple submissions onto one disk allows a library of Zenith video
>
>>history to be collected in one place for future viewing (when you need an
>>attitude boost for getting back to building). High technology allows us at
>the
>>Zenair Newsletter to edit and distribute video DVD disks with the
>newsletter at
>>no additional cost to members! This is the perfect opportunity to use this
>
>>medium to its fullest.
>>>
>>>What we need from you:
>>>
>>>VIDEO of you building workshop - have your significant other or
>children
>>operate the video camera of YOU showing your project and describing your
>>progress. As much as you would like to see others building - they want to
>see
>>YOU, too! Provide a little self-interview of building - describe the mods
>you
>>are making or techniques that others might find useful. Be funny, if you
>>want... AND.. doesnt matter if you have 5 or 50 minutes of footage... I
>will
>>edit and compile as necessary to make it work.. Raw, unedited is just
>FINE... I
>>will edit.
>>>
>>>I know the footage is out there... look at the various UTube footage
>floating
>>around.... I can use that! (but I need the original footage, not the
>compressed
>>computer format) Im looking for first flights, last flights!, middle
>flights, at
>>the airport, etc. Some of you have footage from recent Oshkosh and other
>>shows... kids working on Zeniths... stories told first person by pilots
>that fly
>>them... As I have visited fly-ins I hear amazing stories of emergency
>landings,
>>engine outs and the like... talk into the camera and submit it!
>>>
>>>Some of you guys participate in EAA chapters and clubs... grab the man
>handy
>>with the camera and shoot away... (keep it mostly Zenith related, tho!) It
>does
>>not have to be polished or professional... sometimes a good 5 minutes of
>this or
>>that is most entertaining and educational!
>>>
>>>How to get your video to me:
>>>
>>>Mail your tape to me (post office mail!) I can use either: mini-digital
>tape or
>>the larger (8mm) digital tape.... or if you have video on DVD I can lift it
>off
>>of that. If you have your video in an .AVI file on a CD, that is super!
>Dont
>>worry if there is other stuff already on your tape (family stuff) as I will
>only
>>copy off just the zenith stuff. I have the ability to edit out bad words,
>>obscene gestures, etc so dont worry about unpolished material. I can mail
>the
>>tapes/disks back to you. The understanding is that what you send me is OK
>to
>>make public for the Zenith Newsletter members - just like submitting a
>photo.
>>Send me as much as you wish... I will judge how much can be used, etc. I
>can
>>also voice over the video if that needs to be done... just write down what
>we
>>are looking at so I can accurately present the material.
>>>
>>>When do I need it:
>>>Now! as I need some time to edit and compile... but if you can't
>send it for a
>>while and it misses my deadline, there is always another issue so NOTHING
>you
>>send will get wasted! It doesnt matter how old your footage is... your
>first
>>flight from 4 years ago is still very valuable to current builders that
>want to
>>experience those moments.
>>>
>>>My address:
>>>
>>>Zenair News/Jon Croke
>>>9186 County K
>>>Brussels, WI 54204
>>>
>>>Can I count on something from anyone? Drop it in the mail tomorrow?
>(otherwise
>>you'll only see *my* first flights..... I'll contribute that!)
>>>Feel free to email me direct if you have questions or ideas on other
>video
>>topics that might work here. The DVD you just received in the current
>newsletter
>>issue was just a start - it needs to be better!
>>>
>>>Thanks!
>>>Jon
>>>editor www.zenair.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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tell her I had my teeth ( dentures)just put back in that day and the toupe stayed
on with a bit of velcro.
Juan
-----Original Message-----
>From: TxDave <dclaytx2@HOTMAIL.COM>
>Sent: Oct 21, 2008 10:02 AM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Request for your video footage
>
>
>Juan,
>
>My wife walked in as I was watching your video and said "oh my, he's a hottie".
Just thought I'd pass that along.
>
>There is a website that lets you download and save most videos from the web. I've
saved a lot of 601 videos from youtube using this site.
>
>http://keepvid.com/
>
>Dave Clay
>Temple, TX
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 9651#209651
>
>
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tell her I had my teeth ( dentures)just put back in that day and the toupe stayed
on with a bit of velcro.
Juan
-----Original Message-----
>From: TxDave <dclaytx2@HOTMAIL.COM>
>Sent: Oct 21, 2008 10:02 AM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Request for your video footage
>
>
>Juan,
>
>My wife walked in as I was watching your video and said "oh my, he's a hottie".
Just thought I'd pass that along.
>
>There is a website that lets you download and save most videos from the web. I've
saved a lot of 601 videos from youtube using this site.
>
>http://keepvid.com/
>
>Dave Clay
>Temple, TX
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 9651#209651
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Which Of Two STOL CH7XX Building Choices? |
Great info guys. Roger, you have a 2180/Valley Engineering Redrive? What type
of aircraft do you have it in? Can you give more detail about your experience?
The only problem with a direct drive 2300cc vw from great plains is the prop length.
With its high RPM, I doubt I will be able to swing a big enough prop on
that engine to take advantage of the CH701's STOL capabilities. I plan on using
a 2180cc on my sonex and I was hoping to use another VW in the 701.
hills(at)sunflower.com wrote:
> Jon;
>
> Ya, Joes right, I have trouble just cooling a 2180 cc engine, the 105HP is only
available for a few minutes. But..
> Why not use the Great Plains 2300 CC VW engine with aluminum cylinders? It puts
out 85 HP and weighs a lot less than a corvair engine (about 60 pounds) and
you can
> get true duel ignition system (not available on corvairs).
>
> Roger
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Jon;
Na, I have a water cooled Great plains VW now, it's 100 HP but the heads
are no longer made, so that options off the board for you. I got my redrive data
from Great plains VW, they sell the redrives, but warn against continues use
at high power, thus the 5 minutes estimate (from there literature). There just
is not enough cooling fin area on the engine to
get rid of the waste heat generated about 80 HP, without water cooling anyway.
The 701's gross weight does not justify an engine over 65 HP really, any
more than that is just an increase in climb, and a bit more cruise speed,
unless you plan to put it on floats of course.
A little HP is good, but a lot is not necessarily very good.
Roger
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of mcjon77
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 10:21 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Which Of Two STOL CH7XX Building Choices?
Great info guys. Roger, you have a 2180/Valley Engineering Redrive? What type
of aircraft do you have it in? Can you give more detail about your experience?
The only problem with a direct drive 2300cc vw from great plains is the prop length.
With its high RPM, I doubt I will be able to swing a big enough prop on
that engine to take advantage of the CH701's STOL capabilities. I plan on using
a 2180cc on my sonex and I was hoping to use another VW in the 701.
hills(at)sunflower.com wrote:
> Jon;
>
> Ya, Joes right, I have trouble just cooling a 2180 cc engine, the 105HP is only
available for a few minutes. But..
> Why not use the Great Plains 2300 CC VW engine with aluminum cylinders? It puts
out 85 HP and weighs a lot less than a corvair engine (about 60 pounds) and
you can
> get true duel ignition system (not available on corvairs).
>
> Roger
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