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     1. 04:19 AM - Re: Speaking of fuel systems... (ashontz)
     2. 05:41 AM - Re: Paint after Polishing (kmccune)
     3. 12:16 PM - Carburetor (BobbyPaulk@comcast.net)
     4. 03:49 PM - Re: Re: Paint after Polishing (Bill Naumuk)
     5. 03:57 PM - Re: Re: Paint after Polishing addendum (Bill Naumuk)
     6. 04:12 PM - Re: Paint after Polishing (Bob Collins)
     7. 04:23 PM - Re: Paint after Polishing (Craig Payne)
     8. 04:38 PM - Polish, Paint OR not (jaybannist@cs.com)
     9. 04:44 PM - Re: Re: Paint after Polishing (Tim Shankland)
    10. 04:55 PM - Re: Paint after Polishing (George Swinford)
    11. 05:15 PM - Murdock, Inc. (Bill Naumuk)
    12. 05:17 PM - Fw: Murdock, Inc. (Bill Naumuk)
    13. 05:21 PM - Re: Re: Paint after Polishing (Bill Naumuk)
    14. 05:58 PM - Re: Polish, Paint OR not (Dave Austin)
    15. 06:20 PM - Re: Paint after Polishing (Craig Payne)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: Speaking of fuel systems... | 
      
      
      Just curious, are these tanks gas welded? I'm in the process of making my tanks
      and just wondering how they're made at Zenith. Those welds appear to be gas welds,
      which is what I'm doing, with lots of practice of course. :)
      
      --------
      Andy Shontz
      
      do not archive
      
      CH601XL - Corvair
      www.mykitlog.com/ashontz
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=212215#212215
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Paint after Polishing | 
      
      
      I vaguely remember a benefit to polishing and corrosion resistance. But I may be
      remembering wrong.  :? 
      
      
      do not archive
      
      Kevin
      
      --------
      Mark Twain: Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that
      you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail
      away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream.
      Discover.
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=212229#212229
      
      
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      List,
      my 3300 Jab idles fairly good at 800 ~ 900 Rpm when i crack the throttle off 
      idle at about 1050 to 1300 it will puff black smoke. at 1500 rpm it will smooth
      
      out. 
      has any one changed jets or needle to fix the idle and low end mixture.
      i think if i change the needle jet to a smaller size then it would run too lean
      
      at cruise.
      this would call for a change in needle configuration. 
      i gotta do something. any help would be appreciated.
      
      bobby
      N131BP
      601 XL  
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Paint after Polishing | 
      
      
      Kevin-
          The weight savings, corrosion protection and good looks all make 
      polishing something due serious consideration which is why I went that 
      route, and I have no trouble with Nuvite products. What comes into play with 
      a Zodiac is the fact that you're polishing a hard alloy, 6061-T6, and it 
      takes forever. If you get a square foot an hour you're doing good. Think 
      about how many square feet of surface there is to be polished on a Zenith 
      and then evaluate the capability you have to put in the mind deadening time 
      it will take.
                                                                        Bill
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "kmccune" <kmccune@somtel.net>
      Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 8:41 AM
      Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Paint after Polishing
      
      
      >
      > I vaguely remember a benefit to polishing and corrosion resistance. But I 
      > may be remembering wrong.  :?
      >
      >
      > do not archive
      >
      > Kevin
      >
      > --------
      > Mark Twain: Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the 
      > things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the 
      > bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your 
      > sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=212229#212229
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Paint after Polishing addendum | 
      
      
      One other thing. The complete guide to polishing using the Nuvite system is 
      available on 601.org.
                                                                  Bill
      
      > Kevin-
      >    The weight savings, corrosion protection and good looks all make 
      > polishing something due serious consideration which is why I went that 
      > route, and I have no trouble with Nuvite products. What comes into play 
      > with a Zodiac is the fact that you're polishing a hard alloy, 6061-T6, and 
      > it takes forever. If you get a square foot an hour you're doing good. 
      > Think about how many square feet of surface there is to be polished on a 
      > Zenith and then evaluate the capability you have to put in the mind 
      > deadening time it will take.
      >                                                                  Bill
      > ----- Original Message ----- 
      > From: "kmccune" <kmccune@somtel.net>
      > To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
      > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 8:41 AM
      > Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Paint after Polishing
      >
      >
      >>
      >> I vaguely remember a benefit to polishing and corrosion resistance. But I 
      >> may be remembering wrong.  :?
      >>
      >>
      >> do not archive
      >>
      >> Kevin
      >>
      >> --------
      >> Mark Twain: Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the 
      >> things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the 
      >> bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your 
      >> sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >> Read this topic online here:
      >>
      >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=212229#212229
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Paint after Polishing | 
      
      
      My understanding is that painting or polishing 6061 is purely for 
      cosmetics. If fact, the light oxidation that forms provides a protective 
      barrier for further corrosion (it seals the bare aluminum from the 
      oxygen-laden air). This is not necessarily the case with the 2024 alloy 
      used on Cessnas, RVs, etc.
      
      Your choice, but remember, lightness is a very good thing for an airplane.
      
      Bob Collins
      Sunnyvale CA USA
      
      raymondj wrote:
      >
      > Is there any benefit to polishing vs. leaving the factory finish 
      > besides the looks?  I'm just lazy and easily bored.
      >
      > Raymond Julian
      > Kettle River, MN
      >
      > "Hope for the best,
      > but prepare for the worst."
      >
      > do not archive
      >
      >
      > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Naumuk" <naumuk@alltel.net>
      > To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
      > Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 5:55 PM
      > Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Paint after Polishing
      >
      >
      >>
      >> Dan-
      >>    It takes forever to get a shine in T6, but from what I hear once 
      >> you get
      >> it in, maintenance is minimal.
      >>    Boring, boring, boring. You can't even get your kids to do it!
      >>                                                        Bill
      >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "steve" 
      >> <notsew_evets@frontiernet.net>
      >> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
      >> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 3:23 PM
      >> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Paint after Polishing
      >>
      >>
      >>> <notsew_evets@frontiernet.net>
      >>>
      >>> If I could turn back the clock,  I would polish.
      >>>
      >>> Paint just adds weight and If you wanting to be in the sport pilot 
      >>> arena
      >>> its just your loss in usefull load....
      >>>
      >>> SW
      >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "messydeer" <messydeer@yahoo.com>
      >>> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
      >>> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 10:48 AM
      >>> Subject: Zenith-List: Paint after Polishing
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>>
      >>>> Hi!
      >>>>
      >>>> A couple years down the road, when my plane is done, I plan to 
      >>>> polish it,
      >>>> possibly with the Nuvite stuff. I figure although it may take more 
      >>>> time,
      >>>> it will be lighter and cheaper than painting. I do plan on having 
      >>>> painted
      >>>> highlights, though.
      >>>>
      >>>> I also think that if for some reason I decide to paint all of the
      >>>> aluminum, I could do this after the polish job. But recently, I had 
      >>>> been
      >>>> told that some folks have had problems doing just this. Something 
      >>>> about
      >>>> not having the paint adhere will around the rivets, where residual
      >>>> polishing material hadn't come off. There may have been a bleeding
      >>>> effect, I'm not sure.
      >>>>
      >>>> Anybody have any experience or suggestion about this?
      >>>>
      >>>> Cheers!
      >>>>
      >>>> --------
      >>>> Dan
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>> Read this topic online here:
      >>>>
      >>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=212102#212102
      
      
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| Subject:  | Paint after Polishing | 
      
      
      My role model is the builder up in Washington state who neither painted or
      polished his plane. He did paint a pin-up girl on the cowl. But I can't
      recall his name or find his web site. As I recall he build his plane is some
      remarkable short period.
      
      -- Craig
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Collins
      Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 5:12 PM
      Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Paint after Polishing
      
      
      My understanding is that painting or polishing 6061 is purely for 
      cosmetics. If fact, the light oxidation that forms provides a protective 
      barrier for further corrosion (it seals the bare aluminum from the 
      oxygen-laden air). This is not necessarily the case with the 2024 alloy 
      used on Cessnas, RVs, etc.
      
      Your choice, but remember, lightness is a very good thing for an airplane.
      
      Bob Collins
      Sunnyvale CA USA
      
      raymondj wrote:
      >
      > Is there any benefit to polishing vs. leaving the factory finish 
      > besides the looks?  I'm just lazy and easily bored.
      >
      > Raymond Julian
      > Kettle River, MN
      >
      > "Hope for the best,
      > but prepare for the worst."
      >
      > do not archive
      >
      >
      > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Naumuk" <naumuk@alltel.net>
      > To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
      > Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 5:55 PM
      > Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Paint after Polishing
      >
      >
      >>
      >> Dan-
      >>    It takes forever to get a shine in T6, but from what I hear once 
      >> you get
      >> it in, maintenance is minimal.
      >>    Boring, boring, boring. You can't even get your kids to do it!
      >>                                                        Bill
      >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "steve" 
      >> <notsew_evets@frontiernet.net>
      >> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
      >> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 3:23 PM
      >> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Paint after Polishing
      >>
      >>
      >>> <notsew_evets@frontiernet.net>
      >>>
      >>> If I could turn back the clock,  I would polish.
      >>>
      >>> Paint just adds weight and If you wanting to be in the sport pilot 
      >>> arena
      >>> its just your loss in usefull load....
      >>>
      >>> SW
      >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "messydeer" <messydeer@yahoo.com>
      >>> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
      >>> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 10:48 AM
      >>> Subject: Zenith-List: Paint after Polishing
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>>
      >>>> Hi!
      >>>>
      >>>> A couple years down the road, when my plane is done, I plan to 
      >>>> polish it,
      >>>> possibly with the Nuvite stuff. I figure although it may take more 
      >>>> time,
      >>>> it will be lighter and cheaper than painting. I do plan on having 
      >>>> painted
      >>>> highlights, though.
      >>>>
      >>>> I also think that if for some reason I decide to paint all of the
      >>>> aluminum, I could do this after the polish job. But recently, I had 
      >>>> been
      >>>> told that some folks have had problems doing just this. Something 
      >>>> about
      >>>> not having the paint adhere will around the rivets, where residual
      >>>> polishing material hadn't come off. There may have been a bleeding
      >>>> effect, I'm not sure.
      >>>>
      >>>> Anybody have any experience or suggestion about this?
      >>>>
      >>>> Cheers!
      >>>>
      >>>> --------
      >>>> Dan
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>> Read this topic online here:
      >>>>
      >>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=212102#212102
      
      
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| Subject:  | Polish, Paint OR not | 
      
      I understand that 6061-T6 is very corrosion resistant.? Therefore, I only painted
      the fiberglass parts, invasion stripes and a little other cosmetic painting.?
      I actually like the look of the "raw", unpolished aluminum.? Judge for yourself.
      
      Jay in Dallas
      Do not archive
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| Subject:  | Re: Paint after Polishing | 
      
      
      I too when with the Nuvite product, while it is time consuming the first 
      time, mine took a lot less than a square foot an hour. As I have 
      mentioned before on this list a thin coating of mineral spirits ( paint 
      thinner) make the Nuvite go on like cream. I am doing my yearly buff on 
      the plane now, compared with the original buffing it is child's play.
      Tim Shankland
      
      Bill Naumuk wrote:
      
      >
      > Kevin-
      >    The weight savings, corrosion protection and good looks all make 
      > polishing something due serious consideration which is why I went that 
      > route, and I have no trouble with Nuvite products. What comes into 
      > play with a Zodiac is the fact that you're polishing a hard alloy, 
      > 6061-T6, and it takes forever. If you get a square foot an hour you're 
      > doing good. Think about how many square feet of surface there is to be 
      > polished on a Zenith and then evaluate the capability you have to put 
      > in the mind deadening time it will take.
      >                                                                  Bill
      > ----- Original Message ----- From: "kmccune" <kmccune@somtel.net>
      > To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
      > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 8:41 AM
      > Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Paint after Polishing
      >
      >
      >>
      >> I vaguely remember a benefit to polishing and corrosion resistance. 
      >> But I may be remembering wrong.  :?
      >>
      >>
      >> do not archive
      >>
      >> Kevin
      >>
      >> --------
      >> Mark Twain: Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by 
      >> the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw 
      >> off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade 
      >> winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >> Read this topic online here:
      >>
      >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=212229#212229
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Paint after Polishing | 
      
      
      Craig:
      
      You must be referring to Joe Edwards.
      
        George
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Craig Payne" <craig@craigandjean.com>
      Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 4:23 PM
      Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Paint after Polishing
      
      
      >
      > My role model is the builder up in Washington state who neither painted or
      > polished his plane. He did paint a pin-up girl on the cowl. But I can't
      > recall his name or find his web site. As I recall he build his plane is 
      > some
      > remarkable short period.
      >
      > -- Craig
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
      > [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Collins
      > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 5:12 PM
      > To: zenith-list@matronics.com
      > Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Paint after Polishing
      >
      >
      > My understanding is that painting or polishing 6061 is purely for
      > cosmetics. If fact, the light oxidation that forms provides a protective
      > barrier for further corrosion (it seals the bare aluminum from the
      > oxygen-laden air). This is not necessarily the case with the 2024 alloy
      > used on Cessnas, RVs, etc.
      >
      > Your choice, but remember, lightness is a very good thing for an airplane.
      >
      > Bob Collins
      > Sunnyvale CA USA
      >
      > raymondj wrote:
      >>
      >> Is there any benefit to polishing vs. leaving the factory finish
      >> besides the looks?  I'm just lazy and easily bored.
      >>
      >> Raymond Julian
      >> Kettle River, MN
      >>
      >> "Hope for the best,
      >> but prepare for the worst."
      >>
      >> do not archive
      >>
      >>
      >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Naumuk" <naumuk@alltel.net>
      >> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
      >> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 5:55 PM
      >> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Paint after Polishing
      >>
      >>
      >>>
      >>> Dan-
      >>>    It takes forever to get a shine in T6, but from what I hear once
      >>> you get
      >>> it in, maintenance is minimal.
      >>>    Boring, boring, boring. You can't even get your kids to do it!
      >>>                                                        Bill
      >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "steve"
      >>> <notsew_evets@frontiernet.net>
      >>> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
      >>> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 3:23 PM
      >>> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Paint after Polishing
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>> <notsew_evets@frontiernet.net>
      >>>>
      >>>> If I could turn back the clock,  I would polish.
      >>>>
      >>>> Paint just adds weight and If you wanting to be in the sport pilot
      >>>> arena
      >>>> its just your loss in usefull load....
      >>>>
      >>>> SW
      >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "messydeer" <messydeer@yahoo.com>
      >>>> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
      >>>> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 10:48 AM
      >>>> Subject: Zenith-List: Paint after Polishing
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>>>
      >>>>> Hi!
      >>>>>
      >>>>> A couple years down the road, when my plane is done, I plan to
      >>>>> polish it,
      >>>>> possibly with the Nuvite stuff. I figure although it may take more
      >>>>> time,
      >>>>> it will be lighter and cheaper than painting. I do plan on having
      >>>>> painted
      >>>>> highlights, though.
      >>>>>
      >>>>> I also think that if for some reason I decide to paint all of the
      >>>>> aluminum, I could do this after the polish job. But recently, I had
      >>>>> been
      >>>>> told that some folks have had problems doing just this. Something
      >>>>> about
      >>>>> not having the paint adhere will around the rivets, where residual
      >>>>> polishing material hadn't come off. There may have been a bleeding
      >>>>> effect, I'm not sure.
      >>>>>
      >>>>> Anybody have any experience or suggestion about this?
      >>>>>
      >>>>> Cheers!
      >>>>>
      >>>>> --------
      >>>>> Dan
      >>>>>
      >>>>>
      >>>>>
      >>>>>
      >>>>> Read this topic online here:
      >>>>>
      >>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=212102#212102
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
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      All-
          On the advice of Mark Jones, I ordered some AN fittings from 
      Murdock.They, or their sister company Adaptors, Inc. have all those 
      fittings you've been tearing your hair out to find. ACS and Wick's don't 
      have 50% the selection!    
          Customer service is outstanding. I screwed up on my first order (I 
      know none of you have ever done that) and an RMA was immediately issued, 
      with shipping credit!!
          I'm a VERY happy camper, and highly recommend these people. 
          Every once in a while even a blind pig finds a truffle!    
      Bill Naumuk
      Townville, Pa.
      HDS 601MG/Corvair 95%
      
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| Subject:  | Fw: Murdock, Inc. | 
      
      I forgot to mention that I don't know if they know that we're playing 
      with aircraft. 'Nuf said.
                                                                      Bill 
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Bill Naumuk 
      Cc: Corvair engines for homebuilt aircraft 
      Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 8:13 PM
      Subject: Murdock, Inc.
      
      
      All-
          On the advice of Mark Jones, I ordered some AN fittings from 
      Murdock.They, or their sister company Adaptors, Inc. have all those 
      fittings you've been tearing your hair out to find. ACS and Wick's don't 
      have 50% the selection!    
          Customer service is outstanding. I screwed up on my first order (I 
      know none of you have ever done that) and an RMA was immediately issued, 
      with shipping credit!!
          I'm a VERY happy camper, and highly recommend these people. 
          Every once in a while even a blind pig finds a truffle!    
      Bill Naumuk
      Townville, Pa.
      HDS 601MG/Corvair 95%
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Paint after Polishing | 
      
      
      Tim-
          No matter what, it takes me an average of an hour/ft., even with the use 
      of mineral spirits.
                                                                          Bill
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Tim Shankland" <tshankland@sbcglobal.net>
      Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 7:42 PM
      Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Paint after Polishing
      
      
      > <tshankland@sbcglobal.net>
      >
      > I too when with the Nuvite product, while it is time consuming the first 
      > time, mine took a lot less than a square foot an hour. As I have mentioned 
      > before on this list a thin coating of mineral spirits ( paint thinner) 
      > make the Nuvite go on like cream. I am doing my yearly buff on the plane 
      > now, compared with the original buffing it is child's play.
      > Tim Shankland
      >
      > Bill Naumuk wrote:
      >
      >>
      >> Kevin-
      >>    The weight savings, corrosion protection and good looks all make 
      >> polishing something due serious consideration which is why I went that 
      >> route, and I have no trouble with Nuvite products. What comes into play 
      >> with a Zodiac is the fact that you're polishing a hard alloy, 6061-T6, 
      >> and it takes forever. If you get a square foot an hour you're doing good. 
      >> Think about how many square feet of surface there is to be polished on a 
      >> Zenith and then evaluate the capability you have to put in the mind 
      >> deadening time it will take.
      >>                                                                  Bill
      >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "kmccune" <kmccune@somtel.net>
      >> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
      >> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 8:41 AM
      >> Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Paint after Polishing
      >>
      >>
      >>>
      >>> I vaguely remember a benefit to polishing and corrosion resistance. But 
      >>> I may be remembering wrong.  :?
      >>>
      >>>
      >>> do not archive
      >>>
      >>> Kevin
      >>>
      >>> --------
      >>> Mark Twain: Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the 
      >>> things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the 
      >>> bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your 
      >>> sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>> Read this topic online here:
      >>>
      >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=212229#212229
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
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      I didn't paint for the first 4 years and only polished twice.  After the 
      four years and four Canadian winters small white pockets began to appear 
      on the 6061, particularly round the rivets.
      I had it painted.
      Dave Austin  601HDS - 912
      
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| Subject:  | Paint after Polishing | 
      
      
      That's the one: "Build in a tent in 8 months"
      
      http://www.cleanh2o.com/633z/ZodieGirl.jpg
      
      http://www.cleanh2o.com/633z/
      
      Not to mention the "Swedish mufflers"!
      
      -- Craig
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George Swinford
      Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 5:54 PM
      Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Paint after Polishing
      
      
      Craig:
      
      You must be referring to Joe Edwards.
      
        George
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Craig Payne" <craig@craigandjean.com>
      Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 4:23 PM
      Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Paint after Polishing
      
      
      >
      > My role model is the builder up in Washington state who neither painted or
      > polished his plane. He did paint a pin-up girl on the cowl. But I can't
      > recall his name or find his web site. As I recall he build his plane is 
      > some
      > remarkable short period.
      >
      > -- Craig
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
      > [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Collins
      > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 5:12 PM
      > To: zenith-list@matronics.com
      > Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Paint after Polishing
      >
      >
      > My understanding is that painting or polishing 6061 is purely for
      > cosmetics. If fact, the light oxidation that forms provides a protective
      > barrier for further corrosion (it seals the bare aluminum from the
      > oxygen-laden air). This is not necessarily the case with the 2024 alloy
      > used on Cessnas, RVs, etc.
      >
      > Your choice, but remember, lightness is a very good thing for an airplane.
      >
      > Bob Collins
      > Sunnyvale CA USA
      >
      > raymondj wrote:
      >>
      >> Is there any benefit to polishing vs. leaving the factory finish
      >> besides the looks?  I'm just lazy and easily bored.
      >>
      >> Raymond Julian
      >> Kettle River, MN
      >>
      >> "Hope for the best,
      >> but prepare for the worst."
      >>
      >> do not archive
      >>
      >>
      >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Naumuk" <naumuk@alltel.net>
      >> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
      >> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 5:55 PM
      >> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Paint after Polishing
      >>
      >>
      >>>
      >>> Dan-
      >>>    It takes forever to get a shine in T6, but from what I hear once
      >>> you get
      >>> it in, maintenance is minimal.
      >>>    Boring, boring, boring. You can't even get your kids to do it!
      >>>                                                        Bill
      >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "steve"
      >>> <notsew_evets@frontiernet.net>
      >>> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
      >>> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 3:23 PM
      >>> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Paint after Polishing
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>> <notsew_evets@frontiernet.net>
      >>>>
      >>>> If I could turn back the clock,  I would polish.
      >>>>
      >>>> Paint just adds weight and If you wanting to be in the sport pilot
      >>>> arena
      >>>> its just your loss in usefull load....
      >>>>
      >>>> SW
      >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "messydeer" <messydeer@yahoo.com>
      >>>> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
      >>>> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 10:48 AM
      >>>> Subject: Zenith-List: Paint after Polishing
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>>>
      >>>>> Hi!
      >>>>>
      >>>>> A couple years down the road, when my plane is done, I plan to
      >>>>> polish it,
      >>>>> possibly with the Nuvite stuff. I figure although it may take more
      >>>>> time,
      >>>>> it will be lighter and cheaper than painting. I do plan on having
      >>>>> painted
      >>>>> highlights, though.
      >>>>>
      >>>>> I also think that if for some reason I decide to paint all of the
      >>>>> aluminum, I could do this after the polish job. But recently, I had
      >>>>> been
      >>>>> told that some folks have had problems doing just this. Something
      >>>>> about
      >>>>> not having the paint adhere will around the rivets, where residual
      >>>>> polishing material hadn't come off. There may have been a bleeding
      >>>>> effect, I'm not sure.
      >>>>>
      >>>>> Anybody have any experience or suggestion about this?
      >>>>>
      >>>>> Cheers!
      >>>>>
      >>>>> --------
      >>>>> Dan
      >>>>>
      >>>>>
      >>>>>
      >>>>>
      >>>>> Read this topic online here:
      >>>>>
      >>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=212102#212102
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
 
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