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0. 12:32 AM - Behind By 21% - Advertising May Be Needed...? (Matt Dralle)
1. 05:55 AM - Forms (wade jones)
2. 06:46 AM - Re: Forms (sdthatcher)
3. 06:57 AM - Left-over parts (Dr. Andrew Elliott)
4. 07:04 AM - Correction - Left-over parts (Dr. Andrew Elliott)
5. 07:15 AM - Re: Aileron Push Rods, 601XL (japhillipsga@aol.com)
6. 07:53 AM - Re: Aileron Push Rods, 601XL (Dirk Zahtilla)
7. 09:57 AM - Re: Correction - Left-over parts (PatrickW)
8. 10:46 AM - 80 hp. jab (Southern Reflections)
9. 11:57 AM - Re: 80 hp. jab (Pete Krotje)
10. 12:08 PM - Re: 80 hp. jab (Iberplanes IGL)
11. 01:08 PM - Re: 80 hp. jab (Pete Krotje)
12. 01:33 PM - Re: 80 hp. jab (Southern Reflections)
13. 01:38 PM - Re: 80 hp. jab (jetboy)
14. 04:24 PM - Re: Re: 80 hp. jab (Southern Reflections)
15. 07:55 PM - Re: 80 hp. jab (jetboy)
16. 08:40 PM - Re: Re: 80 hp. jab (Southern Reflections)
17. 09:25 PM - Plexiglass Scratch Repair... (Matt Dralle)
18. 10:03 PM - YOU MIGHT BE IN THE AVIATION/AEROSPACE INDUSTRY IF ... (Jimbo)
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| Subject: | Behind By 21% - Advertising May Be Needed...? |
Dear Listers,
The percentage of people making a Contribution to support the Lists this year is
currently lagging behind last year by approximately 21%! I'm hoping that everyone
is just waiting until the last minute to show their support... ;-)
Please remember that it is solely your direct Contributions that keep these Lists
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support the Lists directly, then I will likely have to start adding advertisements
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I think that a lot of the members appreciate that too.
Please take a moment to make a Contribution today in support of the continued ad-free
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Hello group ,I am getting ready for a hanger clean-up .If someone on the
list is considering scratch building a 601XL they are welcome to my
forms used in building my plane .If they are not wanted they are on
their way to the burn pile .It would cost too much to ship them ,I live
50 miles South of Houston Texas in Brazoria . Phone :979-798-5917
Wade Jones South Texas
601XL Franklin 0-235
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Dam Wade, I'm having trouble even throwing away my wing shipping container!
Do Not Archive
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Scott Thatcher, Palm Beach Gardens, FL
601XL with Corvair, Registered as E-LSA
N601EL, EAA203 25 hours and climbing.
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Gang:
I have a few left-over (unused) parts from my build that I would like to
sell. All are offered at *1/2* the price from the Zenith catalog, plus
actual shipping. Please contact me off-list if you are interested.
Andy Elliott, Mesa, AZ
N601GE (registered)
601XL/TD, inspection this Saturday!
a.s.elliott@cox.net
Part No. Description ZAC $$ My $$
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6W9-2 Pitot-Static Tube Assembly 61.00 30.50
6W10-1 Ail. Bellcrank w/spacers 38.10 19.00
(each, have 2)
6F4-1 Cable Outlet Fairing ??? 2.00
(each, have 2)
All of it, even cheaper! $70.00
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| Subject: | Correction - Left-over parts |
Gang: (found more!)
I have a few left-over (unused) parts from my build that I would like to
sell. All are offered at *1/2* the price from the Zenith catalog, plus
actual shipping. Please contact me off-list if you are interested.
Andy Elliott, Mesa, AZ
N601GE (registered)
601XL/TD, inspection this Saturday!
a.s.elliott@cox.net
Part No. Description ZAC $$ My $$
-------- ------------ ------- -------
6W9-2 Pitot-Static Tube Assembly 61.00 30.50
6W10-1 Ail. Bellcrank w/spacers,2 38.10 38.00
(each) (for 2)
6F4-1 Cable Outlet Fairing,2 ??? 4.00
(for 2)
9416K12 40# Gas Spring,2 10.50 10.50
(each) (for 2)
All of it, even cheaper! $80.00
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron Push Rods, 601XL |
Dear Builders, somewhere out there in Zenithland there is at least one builder
that substituted push/pull rods for the cables on their ailerons. I remember somebody
in the past saying on this thread that they were going to or had already
made the stwitch. Please contact me if that certain someone is reading. Also, if
any of you other folks remember who
he is please let me know. Thanks for your time, Bill of Georgia N505WP 601XL-3300
140 hrs
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron Push Rods, 601XL |
That was me,
There's one recently completed XL (in our EAA chapter) with pushrods,
and myself and one other just started propjects who are doing this also.
Feel free to call me at 775-671-0852 or email me direct
ideaz1@sbcglobal.net
Dirk Z Carson City, Nv.
----- Original Message -----
From: japhillipsga@aol.com
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 7:14 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Aileron Push Rods, 601XL
Dear Builders, somewhere out there in Zenithland there is at least one
builder that substituted push/pull rods for the cables on their
ailerons. I remember somebody in the past saying on this thread that
they were going to or had already
made the stwitch. Please contact me if that certain someone is reading.
Also, if any of you other folks remember who
he is please let me know. Thanks for your time, Bill of Georgia N505WP
601XL-3300 140 hrs
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| Subject: | Re: Correction - Left-over parts |
Just curious - did you go with something different for your aileron belcrank...?
- Pat
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Patrick
601XL/Corvair
N63PZ (reserved)
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Does any out there have a 80 hp. jab in a701? Joe N101 HD
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Jabiru USA is flying a 85hp Jabiru 2200 in our 701. See
http://www.usjabiru.com/zenithch701.html for details
Pete
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Southern
Reflections
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 12:45 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: 80 hp. jab
Does any out there have a 80 hp. jab in a701? Joe N101 HD
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Hello Pete,
Would a 3300 also fit?
Thanks,.
2008/11/20 Pete Krotje <pete@usjabiru.com>
> Jabiru USA is flying a 85hp Jabiru 2200 in our 701. See
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www.iberplanes.es
Igualada - Barcelona - Spain
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Zodiac 601 XL Builder
Serial: 6-7011
Tail Kit: Finished
Wings: Not Started
Fuselage: Ordered
Engine: Jabiru 3300
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There are a few builders who have installed the 3300 but there are more
cooling issues to solve.
Pete
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Iberplanes IGL
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 2:08 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 80 hp. jab
Hello Pete,
Would a 3300 also fit?
Thanks,.
2008/11/20 Pete Krotje <pete@usjabiru.com>
Jabiru USA is flying a 85hp Jabiru 2200 in our 701. See
http://www.usjabiru.com/zenithch701.html for details
Pete
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Southern
Reflections
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 12:45 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: 80 hp. jab
Does any out there have a 80 hp. jab in a701? Joe N101 HD
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Zodiac 601 XL Builder
Serial: 6-7011
Tail Kit: Finished
Wings: Not Started
Fuselage: Ordered
Engine: Jabiru 3300
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What typt prop are you using and what size and pitch? Thanks Joe N101HD
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From: Pete Krotje
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 2:56 PM
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: 80 hp. jab
Jabiru USA is flying a 85hp Jabiru 2200 in our 701. See
http://www.usjabiru.com/zenithch701.html for details
Pete
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Southern
Reflections
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 12:45 PM
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Subject: Zenith-List: 80 hp. jab
Does any out there have a 80 hp. jab in a701? Joe N101 HD
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Joe, there is probably a dozen or more out there now, we have 2 in NZ with the
2200a and they do fine. A third is fitting a 3300 but not flown yet, I expect
the trouble will be in the cooling as Pete says, and fuel burn/ weight will be
compromised.
Probably find more info on the 701801 list....
Ralph
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Ralph - CH701 / 2200a
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thank's mate, what type prop are you using,size and pitch? Joe N101HD
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From: "jetboy" <sanson.r@xtra.co.nz>
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 4:38 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: 80 hp. jab
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> Joe, there is probably a dozen or more out there now, we have 2 in NZ with
> the 2200a and they do fine. A third is fitting a 3300 but not flown yet, I
> expect the trouble will be in the cooling as Pete says, and fuel burn/
> weight will be compromised.
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> Ralph
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I went to a thompsonaeronatical.com 64x30". The Jabiru 60x38" was unsatisfactory.
There is a Yahoo thread on this and the Sensenich and the Tenessee props seem
to be equivalent
Ralph
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Ralph - CH701 / 2200a
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Thank's Ralph, I've got a friend that has a701 with a jab 80 hp.eng he has 2
prop from jab and both don't work one over revs and other won't develope
enouth power to get off the ground.. one of those prop,s is a tenn. I'll
pass your e mail to him Joe N101HD
----- Original Message -----
From: "jetboy" <sanson.r@xtra.co.nz>
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 10:54 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: 80 hp. jab
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> I went to a thompsonaeronatical.com 64x30". The Jabiru 60x38" was
> unsatisfactory. There is a Yahoo thread on this and the Sensenich and the
> Tenessee props seem to be equivalent
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| Subject: | Plexiglass Scratch Repair... |
Dear Listers,
During the fitting of the Plexiglass canopy on my RV-8, I managed to put some pretty
disheartening scratches in the windscreen section. You can see from the
pictures that they looked pretty bad. A call to Van's revealed that a replacement
canopy would be $640 + $250 shipping to California! Ack.
So what to do... A bit of surfing and I found this "Scratch Off" windshield repair
kit for $35 on the Aircraft Spruce web site:
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cspages/scratchoff.php
Frankly, it just seemed too good to be true. Nothing for $35 could be that "magic"
I thought, but what did I have to lose at this point....
Well, the kit arrived yesterday and I decided to give it a try tonight. In a word:
WOW! In about 2 hours the windscreen looked as good as new - no kidding
- AS GOOD AS NEW! The pictures really don't do the repair justice. It looks
better in person.
There are basically two sponges in the kit with four decreasingly porous pastes.
You just put some of the first paste on the sponge and buff it in with a drill
at 1200 RPM or less. Then you wash everything down good including the sponge
and windshield with warm water. Then you use the next finer paste and repeat
the process. Etc, etc, until you've used the 4th paste that is kind of like
car wax.
Frankly, the scratches were gone after the first application of paste - I started
at #2 based on the instructions and the "observed severity" of the scratch
depth.
So, the bottom line is, if you've got scuffs or mild scratches in your Plexiglass
buy this repair kit. It works!
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880
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| Subject: | YOU MIGHT BE IN THE AVIATION/AEROSPACE INDUSTRY IF ... |
This bit of humor may be a little OT, but helps to explain why some of my posts
seem incomprehensible.
YOU MIGHT BE IN THE AVIATION/AEROSPACE INDUSTRY IF ...
1. You sat at the same desk for 4 years and worked for 8 different managers. Or
have moved 10 times in two years and have never known who your boss was.
2. Your resume is on a jumpdrive in your pocket.
3. Someone asks you what you do for a living and you lie.
4. You get really excited about a 2% pay increase.
5. Your biggest loss from a system crash, is that you lose your best jokes.
6. You sit in a cubicle smaller than your bedroom closet.
7. Its dark on your drive
to and from work.
8. Fun is when "projects" are assigned to someone else.
9. Communication is something your "group" is having problems with.
10. You see a good-looking person and know it's a visitor.
11. Free food left over from a meeting is your main staple.
12. All art involves a white board.
13. All real work is done prior to 8:00am and after 4:30pm.
14. You're already late on the assignment you just received.
15. Dilbert is your favorite cartoon.
16. Your boss's favorite lines are ...
"When you get a few minutes ..."
"I have an opportunity for you ..."
"Cross-charging is forbidden."
"the directional truth in a white water world ..."
"We have a new culture that will enable us to ..."
"We have a new engineering vice-president."
"This reorganization will allow us to streamline our way of doing
business, becoming more competitive."
17. 99% of
the people in your company do not know what you do.
18. 99% of the people in your company do not care what you do.
19. Vacation is something you rollover to next year or a check you get every
January.
20. Change is the norm.
21. Nepotism is strongly encouraged.
22. Your company announces no pay increase because it is investing money in a
new aircraft development.
23. Your company announces no pay increase because the airline industry is in a
downturn. And your boss gets voted "man of the year in aerospace"
24. Your fear to fly is becoming even worse.
25. Everyone at the company says that without his work there would be no
aircraft.
26. An ordinary secretary has more power than an old engineer.
27. You read this entire list and understand it.
28. Not allowing firearms on company property is seen strictly as a suicide
prevention measure.
29. The
only people you forward this to are in aerospace too because no one
else would understand!
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