---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 12/05/08: 20 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:36 AM - Seat Foam (4RCSIMMONS@comcast.net (Rich Simmons)) 2. 05:09 AM - Re: Seat Foam (Roger & Lina Hill) 3. 05:22 AM - Seat Foam (Beckman, Rick) 4. 06:26 AM - Re: Scott Laughlin's Fuel Covers (Carlos Sa) 5. 06:56 AM - Re: First Flight - Canopy for sale (Fly with Gus) 6. 07:13 AM - Re: Seat Foam (Craig Payne) 7. 07:13 AM - Re: Seat Foam (DaveG601XL) 8. 07:19 AM - Re: Seat Foam (Rick Lindstrom) 9. 08:28 AM - Re: Seat Foam (THOMAS SMALL) 10. 08:32 AM - Re: Seat Foam (Gig Giacona) 11. 08:54 AM - Re: Re: Seat Foam (Bryan Martin) 12. 09:50 AM - Re: Seat Foam (Gig Giacona) 13. 10:31 AM - Re: Re: Seat Foam (Jay Maynard) 14. 10:46 AM - Re: Re: First Flight - Canopy for sale (Juan Vega) 15. 04:15 PM - Cable Tensiometer (4RCSIMMONS@comcast.net (Rich Simmons)) 16. 04:32 PM - Re: Cable Tensiometer (Craig Payne) 17. 05:16 PM - Solenoid mounting (Bill Naumuk) 18. 05:19 PM - Re: Re: Seat Foam (Tim Shankland) 19. 08:39 PM - Re: Solenoid mounting (Bryan Martin) 20. 10:00 PM - Re: Solenoid mounting (Dirk Zahtilla) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:36:22 AM PST US From: 4RCSIMMONS@comcast.net (Rich Simmons) Subject: Zenith-List: Seat Foam List, I am looking fro some seat foam. On the forum Monday night I got one address and it was $260 dollars. Any ideas or places you are aware of I can cut this price? Thanks, -- Thanks, Rich Simmons Do not archive ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:09:32 AM PST US From: "Roger & Lina Hill" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Seat Foam Rich Don't get that memory seat foam like I got , when it gets cold, it forgets and turns hard as a rock !!!! Roger -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rich Simmons Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 6:35 AM Subject: Zenith-List: Seat Foam List, I am looking fro some seat foam. On the forum Monday night I got one address and it was $260 dollars. Any ideas or places you are aware of I can cut this price? Thanks, -- Thanks, Rich Simmons Do not archive ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:22:56 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Seat Foam From: "Beckman, Rick" List, I am looking for some seat foam. On the forum Monday night I got one address and it was $260 dollars. Any ideas or places you are aware of I can cut this price? Thanks, -- Thanks, Rich Simmons Rich, I have the address at home. I will post it as soon as I can. The place is in Wichita, KS, and is a bit pricey, but it is memory foam. I bought mine a couple of years ago and a 4'X4' sheet (half sheet) 1" thick was $54. I got three half sheets in three densities and that is plenty to do the two seats. What griped my hind side was the $48 shipping fee. Total was a little over $200. That still beats the $260 unless they have raised the prices. Good Luck and God Bless! Rick www.sharbo.us/thebird Do NOT archive. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:26:05 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Scott Laughlin's Fuel Covers From: "Carlos Sa" I made my fuel cover according to Scott's design. Fairly easy to make, and they look very nice. Carlos CH601-HD, plans Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=217757#217757 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:56:14 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: First Flight - Canopy for sale From: "Fly with Gus" The big thanks goes to Jon Croke on the video. He is a great guy to work with. We have done the latest 601xl series and the 650 canopy conversion DVDs so far. Next we will be starting the 750 series in January. I'm really excited about the 750 and I'm sure Jon is looking forward to another winter in Florida. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=217763#217763 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:13:53 AM PST US From: "Craig Payne" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Seat Foam http://www.seatfoam.com/ Hi-Tech Foams Jim & Janice Fix 3710 Air Park Rd. Lincoln, NE 68524 402/470-2346 -- Craig -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Beckman, Rick Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 6:23 AM Subject: Zenith-List: Seat Foam List, I am looking for some seat foam. On the forum Monday night I got one address and it was $260 dollars. Any ideas or places you are aware of I can cut this price? Thanks, -- Thanks, Rich Simmons Rich, I have the address at home. I will post it as soon as I can. The place is in Wichita, KS, and is a bit pricey, but it is memory foam. I bought mine a couple of years ago and a 4'X4' sheet (half sheet) 1" thick was $54. I got three half sheets in three densities and that is plenty to do the two seats. What griped my hind side was the $48 shipping fee. Total was a little over $200. That still beats the $260 unless they have raised the prices. Good Luck and God Bless! Rick www.sharbo.us/thebird Do NOT archive. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:13:54 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Seat Foam From: "DaveG601XL" Rich, I would have liked to have gotten of cheaper, but I really wanted memory foam. I spent around $230 for the foam on both my seats. I bought like 5 each of the blue and green (firm and firmer) from Wicks. I bought a king sized memory foam mattress topper from Wal-Mart for the soft stuff. If I had to do it again, I would not use the really hard green foam and use all blue for the support portions. I like it even when it is cold. After a few minutes it warms up and I sink right down into it. Good luck, -------- David Gallagher 601 XL/Jabiru 3300 First flight 7/24/08 Phase I flight test complete 10/16/08 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=217767#217767 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/fuselage_426_252.jpg ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:19:47 AM PST US From: Rick Lindstrom Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Seat Foam Jim and Janice Fix of Lincoln, Nebraska, are regulars at most aviation conventions selling their Confor Foam products (which have saved my rear in various airplanes over the last 15 years). It meets FAA burn specs for certified aircraft as well, and I've redone the seats in two Grumman Tigers and a Varga Kachina so far. The T-Cat is next. It's a bit heavier than the typical cheap foam and it's not cheap for the three density, three inch thick sandwich that's best for seat bottoms, but man, does it pay off in comfort! Check out their website at www.seatfoam.com for contact info, unfortunately I didn't see any pricing info posted. The last time I bought a couple of squares for a Tiger, I think the total for two seats was around $120. But that was awhile ago. Rick Lindstrom -----Original Message----- >From: "Beckman, Rick" >Sent: Dec 5, 2008 5:22 AM >To: zenith-list@matronics.com >Subject: Zenith-List: Seat Foam > > >List, > >I am looking for some seat foam. > >On the forum Monday night I got one address and it was $260 dollars. > >Any ideas or places you are aware of I can cut this price? > > >Thanks, > >-- >Thanks, >Rich Simmons > > Rich, I have the address at home. I will post it as soon >as I can. The place is in Wichita, KS, and is a bit pricey, but it is >memory foam. I bought mine a couple of years ago and a 4'X4' sheet (half >sheet) 1" thick was $54. I got three half sheets in three densities and >that is plenty to do the two seats. What griped my hind side was the $48 >shipping fee. Total was a little over $200. That still beats the $260 >unless they have raised the prices. > Good Luck and God Bless! > Rick > www.sharbo.us/thebird > > Do NOT archive. > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:28:16 AM PST US From: "THOMAS SMALL" Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Seat Foam Jim and Janice Fix of Lincoln, Nebraska, are regulars at most aviation conventions selling their Confor Foam products They are regulars but their prices are the highest. Wicks has the same foam (Temprafoam/Confoam) for much more reasonable prices. Get blue and pink, you don't need the hard green stuff. check out http://www.ch601.org/resources/foam_seat/foam_seat_construction.htm CAVU jeff ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:32:30 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Seat Foam From: "Gig Giacona" When I called a couple of months ago Hi-Tech Foams quoted me $259 +shipping for their 601 package. I've attached the flyer they sent. -------- W.R. "Gig" Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=217781#217781 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/zenith601seat_107.jpg ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:54:04 AM PST US From: Bryan Martin Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Seat Foam The design shown in the flyer is a good place to start, but I would recommend making the seat backs and seat bottoms as separate assemblies for easier removal and handling. Then you can flip the seat backs forward out of the way for access behind the seat without worrying about cracking the foam in cold weather. On Dec 5, 2008, at 11:32 AM, Gig Giacona wrote: > > When I called a couple of months ago Hi-Tech Foams quoted me $259 > +shipping for their 601 package. > > I've attached the flyer they sent. > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/zenith601seat_107.jpg > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:50:47 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Seat Foam From: "Gig Giacona" That is exactly what I plan to do. I also ordered an extra piece of the soft softer foam for an arm rest and to add lumbar supports. This thread reminded me I needed to order and did this morning. And the price is still the same. bryanmmartin wrote: > The design shown in the flyer is a good place to start, but I would > recommend making the seat backs and seat bottoms as separate > assemblies for easier removal and handling. Then you can flip the seat > backs forward out of the way for access behind the seat without > worrying about cracking the foam in cold weather. > > -------- W.R. "Gig" Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=217790#217790 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 10:31:32 AM PST US From: Jay Maynard Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Seat Foam On Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 11:53:40AM -0500, Bryan Martin wrote: > The design shown in the flyer is a good place to start, but I would > recommend making the seat backs and seat bottoms as separate assemblies for > easier removal and handling. Then you can flip the seat backs forward out > of the way for access behind the seat without worrying about cracking the > foam in cold weather. This is the way AMD does it. The seat backs, from the hinge up, are one piece; the bottoms are another. The seat bottoms are attached by Velcro at the front, and dom't move at all unless you want them to. Works very well. -- Jay Maynard, K5ZC, PP-ASEL http://www.conmicro.com http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net Fairmont, MN (KFRM) (Yes, that's me!) AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC http://www.tronguy.net/N55ZC.shtml ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 10:46:44 AM PST US From: Juan Vega Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: First Flight - Canopy for sale did you get my email aobut a little local fly in with 601s for breakfast? Juan in St. Petersburg. -----Original Message----- >From: Fly with Gus >Sent: Dec 5, 2008 9:55 AM >To: zenith-list@matronics.com >Subject: Zenith-List: Re: First Flight - Canopy for sale > > >The big thanks goes to Jon Croke on the video. He is a great guy to work with. We have done the latest 601xl series and the 650 canopy conversion DVDs so far. Next we will be starting the 750 series in January. I'm really excited about the 750 and I'm sure Jon is looking forward to another winter in Florida. > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=217763#217763 > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 04:15:29 PM PST US From: 4RCSIMMONS@comcast.net (Rich Simmons) Subject: Zenith-List: Cable Tensiometer Hey folks, I got a Tensiometer off e-bay and from you guys in the aircraft business; Can I simply hang a cale with known weight loads and test for accuracy. It seems to make sense but asking makes sense as well. Also, if any of you guys have one, is there some form of instruction or assembly schematic you may have electronically I can get? do not archive -- Thanks, Rich Simmons ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 04:32:51 PM PST US From: "Craig Payne" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Cable Tensiometer > Can I simply hang a cale with known weight loads and test for accuracy. That's what Zenith/Europe did. See page 3 of their cable tension photo guide: http://www.zenairulm.com/News/pdfdocs/XLphotoguide.pdf Also Larry McFarland. Look under "Tools, Jigging & Handling" for "Cable Tools" http://www.macsmachine.com/ -- Craig ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 05:16:18 PM PST US From: "Bill Naumuk" Subject: Zenith-List: Solenoid mounting All- Every solenoid mount I've seen has been with the unit perpendicular to the line of flight. Is there anything wrong with mounting it on it's back? Bill Naumuk Townville, Pa. HDS 601MG/Corvair 95% ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 05:19:51 PM PST US From: Tim Shankland Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Seat Foam If you just want to buy memory foam you can get it at Jo Ann Fabrics Store, I think I paid about $90 for twin bed sheet of foam. I can't be sure because it was a couple of years ago. Tim Shankland DaveG601XL wrote: > >Rich, > >I would have liked to have gotten of cheaper, but I really wanted memory foam. I spent around $230 for the foam on both my seats. I bought like 5 each of the blue and green (firm and firmer) from Wicks. I bought a king sized memory foam mattress topper from Wal-Mart for the soft stuff. If I had to do it again, I would not use the really hard green foam and use all blue for the support portions. I like it even when it is cold. After a few minutes it warms up and I sink right down into it. > >Good luck, > >-------- >David Gallagher >601 XL/Jabiru 3300 >First flight 7/24/08 >Phase I flight test complete 10/16/08 > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=217767#217767 > > >Attachments: > >http://forums.matronics.com//files/fuselage_426_252.jpg > > > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 08:39:40 PM PST US From: Bryan Martin Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Solenoid mounting No, it should work fine in any orientation. On Dec 5, 2008, at 8:15 PM, Bill Naumuk wrote: > All- > Every solenoid mount I've seen has been with the unit > perpendicular to the line of flight. Is there anything wrong with > mounting it on it's back? > Bill Naumuk > Townville, Pa. -- Bryan Martin N61BM, CH 601 XL, RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive. do not archive. ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 10:00:57 PM PST US From: "Dirk Zahtilla" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Solenoid mounting Nope ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Naumuk To: zenith list Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 5:15 PM Subject: Zenith-List: Solenoid mounting All- Every solenoid mount I've seen has been with the unit perpendicular to the line of flight. Is there anything wrong with mounting it on it's back? Bill Naumuk Townville, Pa. 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