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1. 01:14 AM - Re: Re: Non building related Question - Hand guns (Grant Corriveau)
2. 02:59 AM - Reality bites! Bye... (Grant Corriveau)
3. 03:36 AM - Re: New Main Landing Gear rubber pads (Ken Arnold)
4. 03:43 AM - Re: Non building related Question - Hand guns (Eric Tiethoff (HCCNet))
5. 04:55 AM - Re: Re: Non building related Question - Hand guns (Roger & Lina Hill)
6. 05:27 AM - Re: O.T. Reality bites! Bye... (Bryan Martin)
7. 05:30 AM - Re: New Main Landing Gear rubber pads (Bryan Martin)
8. 05:33 AM - Re: O.T. Reality bites! Bye... (LHusky@aol.com)
9. 05:40 AM - Re: O.T. Non building related Question - Hand guns (Bryan Martin)
10. 05:43 AM - Re: O.T. Non building related Question - Hand guns (LHusky@aol.com)
11. 06:32 AM - Re: O.T. Reality bites! Bye... (Bryan Martin)
12. 06:33 AM - Re: New Main Landing Gear rubber pads (Juan Vega)
13. 06:46 AM - Re: You guys are NUTS!!! (was :Non building related Question - Hand guns) (Juan Vega)
14. 06:52 AM - A joke to lighten the tension (Juan Vega)
15. 06:54 AM - Re: Re: Non building related Question - Hand guns (Rick Lindstrom)
16. 09:06 AM - Re: Re: Corvair engine (Dave Covert)
17. 09:47 AM - Re: Re: MA3-SPA Throttle bellcrank (Clive Richards)
18. 09:58 AM - Re: Re: Non building related Question - Hand guns (Leo Gates)
19. 10:16 AM - Re: A joke to lighten the tension (Dave Austin)
20. 01:02 PM - Re: New Main Landing Gear rubber pads (dingfelder)
21. 01:43 PM - Re: Non building related Question - Hand guns (4RCSIMMONS@comcast.net (Rich Simmons))
22. 02:23 PM - Re: You guys are NUTS!!! (was :Non building related Question - (Sabrina)
23. 03:36 PM - Flap limit switch (wade jones)
24. 03:53 PM - Re: Flap limit switch (Craig Payne)
25. 04:21 PM - Re: Re: You guys are NUTS!!! (was :Non building related Question - (Roger & Lina Hill)
26. 04:22 PM - Re: You guys are NUTS!!! (was :Non building related Question - Hand guns) (Roger & Lina Hill)
27. 04:51 PM - Re: Re: You guys are NUTS!!! (was :Non building related Question - (steve)
28. 05:29 PM - Re: Flap limit switch (wade jones)
29. 05:39 PM - Re: Re: You guys are NUTS!!! (was :Non building related Question - (Dave Austin)
30. 05:50 PM - Fw: Indian Student (Juan Vega)
31. 05:50 PM - Re: Re: You guys are NUTS!!! (was :Non building related Question - (Juan Vega)
32. 05:50 PM - Re: You guys are NUTS!!! (was :Non building related Question - Hand guns) (Juan Vega)
33. 05:57 PM - Re: Flap limit switch (Bryan Martin)
34. 06:58 PM - All of us here (John Reinking)
35. 07:11 PM - Re: Re: You guys are NUTS!!! (was :Non building related Question - (Roger & Lina Hill)
36. 07:17 PM - See ya at sun and fun in Florida ???? (Roger & Lina Hill)
37. 07:38 PM - Re: Do you value this list? (jerry Shepaed)
38. 08:28 PM - Re: All of us here (KEVINBONDS@comcast.net)
39. 09:16 PM - Re: Do you value this list? (Juan Vega)
40. 09:17 PM - Re: See ya at sun and fun in Florida ???? (Juan Vega)
41. 09:18 PM - Re: All of us here (Juan Vega)
42. 10:40 PM - Re: Flap limit switch (Afterfxllc@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: Non building related Question - Hand guns |
"Not to mention the fact that criminals prefer unarmed prey."
Then you'll have to explain to me why the crime rate in the good ole
US of A his highest in the world? Some of you Americans scare me! I
just hope I'm not sitting on a ramp in Texas one day when an airplane
backfires and the ramp is suddenly caught in a hail of cross-fire!!
Yeee haww - Start shootin' boys, that damn guvamunt must be invading!
Hey - here's useful thread for this site while we're at it -- How to
install an automatic machine gun in a Zodiac without shooting off the
prop! All in the name of homeland security of course.
If this whole discussion wasn't so nutty it'd actually be quite funny.
Fly safe! Shoot straight! LOL
GHTF In the Great RED North.
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| Subject: | Reality bites! Bye... |
Why I worry about some of my American Friends and their perceptions
of reality...
SELECTED WORST CITIES
MURDER (LATE-1990s)
EUROPE AND USA
CITY MURDERS PER 100,000
(1) Washington, D.C., USA 69.3
(2) Philadelphia, USA 27.4
(3) Dallas, USA 24.8
(4) Los Angeles, USA 22.8
(5) Chicago, USA 20.5
(6) Phoenix, USA 19.1
(7) Moscow, Russia 18.1
(8) Houston, USA 18.0
(9) New York City, USA 16.8
(10) Helsinki, Finland 12.5
(11) Lisbon, Portugal 9.7
(12) San Diego, USA 8.0
(13) Amsterdam, Netherlands 7.7
(14) Belfast, N.Ireland, UK 4.4
(15) Geneva, Switzerland 4.2
(16) Copenhagen, Denmark 4.0
(17) Berlin, Germany 3.8
(18) Paris, France 3.3
(19) Stockholm, Sweden 3.0
(20) Prague, Czechoslovakia 2.9
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LARGE CANADIAN CITIES BY HOMICIDE RATE, 1990
CITY / PER 100,000
(1) Regina 4.72
(2) Saskatoon 4.39
(3) Sudbury 4.00
(4) Edmonton 3.50
(5) Vancouver 3.45
(6) Montreal 3.40
(7) Winnipeg 3.05
(8) Calgary 2.60
(9) Toronto 1.80
(10) Hamilton 1.70
(11) Halifax 1.25
(12) St. John's 0.00
http://www.benbest.com/lifeext/murder.html
And why I'm 'out of here' ... happy building y'all. Get flying and
stay safe,
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| Subject: | Re: New Main Landing Gear rubber pads |
Don't know 601s but I replaced the stock pads for my 701 with pads cut
from steel belted tire. They are lasting very well. A little difficult
to cut the steel belts but it's worth the effort.
Ken
CH701 N701LK 912ULS
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Don Mountain
To: Zenith
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 10:21 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: New Main Landing Gear rubber pads
Has anybody purchased or received a set of the new main landing
gear rubber pads on the 601XL? They are supposed to replace the cut
rubber heater hose pieces in the fuselage channel and clamp around the
main landing gear mounts. Are they worth the money and seem like a good
deal? I am in the process of mounting my landing gear and was told
Zenith is selling a new type that is a great improvement over the old
type.
Don, 601XL
tail done, wings done, finishing up fuselage
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| Subject: | Re: Non building related Question - Hand guns |
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From: paulrod36@msn.com<mailto:paulrod36@msn.com>
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Non building related Question - Hand guns
Forgive the ignorance of another barbaric American, but doesn't
Switzerland, the only European country never to have been invaded,
REQUIRE that all able bodied men own a rifle? However, fear not--- we
Americans, having done it twice before, can still remember how to
liberate Europe. But the question is, will we, or will Europe have to
free itself next time, armed with a bag of high quality hash, a bottle
of Pilsener, and a pack of Galoises? I remember as a kid telling my
uncle I was taking French in school, and he told me he knew all the
French an American needed to know: "Ou sont les Allemagnes?"
OK. let the flames (flambeaux) begin! On second thought, let me add a
little gasoline--The only people ever brought to this country against
their will were the Africans. So how come there's more Europeans here
than black people?
And now, back to the original question. I wouldn't bother with a handgun
among the survival supplies. You can get a very nifty collapsible .22 -
.410 over-and-under survival rifle (Remington, I think) for a couple of
hundred bucks, which weighs very little, and is good out to 100 yards.
OK, prepare to flame,-----wait for it,-------FLAME!
Paul Rodriguez
601XL/Corvair
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From: Eric Tiethoff (HCCNet)<mailto:j.e.tiethoff@hccnet.nl>
To: zenith-list@matronics.com<mailto:zenith-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 7:59 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Non building related Question - Hand guns
<j.e.tiethoff@hccnet.nl<mailto:j.e.tiethoff@hccnet.nl>>
Why in the world should anybody carry a handgun ? Try grenades ! FAA
aproved. Leaves no broken rivets. Only advantages ! Win win situation
! In
Europe it is (thank God) forbidden to carry arms... Live safe and fly
safe !
Greetings from Holland.
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From: "Rich Simmons"
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Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 1:46 PM
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Subject: Zenith-List: Non building related Question - Hand guns
4RCSIMMONS@comcast.net<mailto:4RCSIMMONS@comcast.net> (Rich Simmons)
>
> Does anybody know what is the legal rules for carrying a handgun on
your
> person at airports and such.
> I know handgun rules vary from state to state however i was
wondering if
> anybody had any knowledge on this thought while flying privately?
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| Subject: | Re: Non building related Question - Hand guns |
USA crime rate highest in the world? Not at all. If you just count murders,
we are only number 24, Mexico is #6, and guns are ILLIGAL in
Mexico.....Hmmm.
My guess is, because of our legal and insurance system, crimes are more
likely to be reported to the authorities here (hence the higher crime rate)
then in other countries were you can't expect to capture the criminals, let
alone sue them or collect insurance money.
( see web site for details)
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur_percap-crime-murders-per-capita
Roger
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Grant Corriveau
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 3:12 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Non building related Question - Hand guns
<grant.corriveau@telus.net>
"Not to mention the fact that criminals prefer unarmed prey."
Then you'll have to explain to me why the crime rate in the good ole
US of A his highest in the world? Some of you Americans scare me! I
just hope I'm not sitting on a ramp in Texas one day when an airplane
backfires and the ramp is suddenly caught in a hail of cross-fire!!
Yeee haww - Start shootin' boys, that damn guvamunt must be invading!
Hey - here's useful thread for this site while we're at it -- How to
install an automatic machine gun in a Zodiac without shooting off the
prop! All in the name of homeland security of course.
If this whole discussion wasn't so nutty it'd actually be quite funny.
Fly safe! Shoot straight! LOL
GHTF In the Great RED North.
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| Subject: | Re: O.T. Reality bites! Bye... |
Note that the city on the top of that list also has the strictest gun
control laws in the country and probably the most socialist city
government. Go figure. Also, The demographics of many American cities
are very different than most European and Canadian cities.
And you forgot the "do not archive".
For those who would rather not read this kind of post, it's usually
very simple to create a filter in your email program to prevent posts
with certain subject lines from being displayed. It's even easier if
the poster would put a O.T. (for Off Topic) in the subject line. Of
course, if you are receiving the list digest, you are SOL.
On Dec 9, 2008, at 5:57 AM, Grant Corriveau wrote:
> >
>
> Why I worry about some of my American Friends and their perceptions
> of reality...
>
> SELECTED WORST CITIES
> MURDER (LATE-1990s)
> EUROPE AND USA
> CITY MURDERS PER 100,000
>
> (1) Washington, D.C., USA 69.3
> (2) Philadelphia, USA 27.4
> (3) Dallas, USA 24.8
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL,
RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
do not archive.
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| Subject: | Re: New Main Landing Gear rubber pads |
I went down to the hardware store and bought some thick rubber gasket
material. I seems to be holding up well after four years and 250 hours.
On Dec 8, 2008, at 10:21 PM, Don Mountain wrote:
> Has anybody purchased or received a set of the new main landing gear
> rubber pads on the 601XL?
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL,
RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
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| Subject: | Re: O.T. Reality bites! Bye... |
Why should we have to. I mean, really, why should we have to do this. This
is an airplane list to help builders. Not discuss politics or anything
else.
In a message dated 12/9/2008 5:28:20 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
bryanmmartin@comcast.net writes:
For those who would rather not read this kind of post, it's usually
very simple to create a filter in your email program to prevent posts
with certain subject lines from being displayed. It's even easier if
the poster would put a O.T. (for Off Topic) in the subject line. Of
course, if you are receiving the list digest, you are SOL.
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| Subject: | Re: O.T. Non building related Question - Hand guns |
Just a reminder, please trim unnecessary quotations from your replies.
The people receiving the list digest are forced to scan through all
this crap to get to the stuff they actually want to read. And add a
"do not archive" to these off topic posts. (It does no good to spell
"archive" wrong either).
> unnecessary
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL,
RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
do not archive.
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| Subject: | Re: O.T. Non building related Question - Hand guns |
In a message dated 12/9/2008 5:41:28 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
bryanmmartin@comcast.net writes:
Just a reminder, please trim unnecessary quotations from your replies.
The people receiving the list digest are forced to scan through all
this crap to get to the stuff they actually want to read. And add a
"do not archive" to these off topic posts. (It does no good to spell
"archive" wrong either).
> unnecessary
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| Subject: | Re: O.T. Reality bites! Bye... |
Welcome to reality. You forgot the "do not archive".
On Dec 9, 2008, at 8:32 AM, LHusky@aol.com wrote:
> Why should we have to. I mean, really, why should we have to do
> this. This is an airplane list to help builders. Not discuss
> politics or anything else.
>
>
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL,
RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
do not archive.
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| Subject: | Re: New Main Landing Gear rubber pads |
an old piece of tire works fine. cut the holes for the bolts to go through and
it should hold well.
Juan
-----Original Message-----
>From: Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
>Sent: Dec 9, 2008 8:29 AM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: New Main Landing Gear rubber pads
>
>
>I went down to the hardware store and bought some thick rubber gasket
>material. I seems to be holding up well after four years and 250 hours.
>
>On Dec 8, 2008, at 10:21 PM, Don Mountain wrote:
>
>> Has anybody purchased or received a set of the new main landing gear
>> rubber pads on the 601XL?
>
>
>--
>Bryan Martin
>N61BM, CH 601 XL,
>RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
>
>
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| Subject: | You guys are NUTS!!! (was :Non building related Question |
- Hand guns)
Roger,
you would love it down here, I landed in everglades city and saw a few pilots
makin a fuss out in the tie down area and then one guy starts runnin and screamin
like a girl, I go over to check it out and there was a 10 foot, yep easily
10 ft, python pissed as hell under an old plane and the guy couldnt get in
the aircraft cause the thing was under the plane on the right side by the step.
Go figure. I did not have the rifle then , but now I know why my dad recommended
one inn the plane,
I thought that was one of the bigget snakes I had ever seen, until last week we
were in the south Everglades forest and the ranger pointed out a 15 ft. salt
water croc, and a mud slide into the water of what he recorded as a 20 ft. python.
Holy #!%#@!%. Welcome to the outback mates! the heck with Australia!
I will stick to the mini 14.
By the way, I left the airport with the guys as the guys were still yelling " shoo,
shoo big snake! Honey, you go first"
Juan
-----Original Message-----
>From: Roger & Lina Hill <hills@sunflower.com>
>Sent: Dec 8, 2008 11:06 PM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Zenith-List: You guys are NUTS!!! (was :Non building related Question
- Hand guns)
>
>
>
>You just did.....
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of steve
>Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 9:15 PM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: You guys are NUTS!!! (was :Non building related
>Question - Hand guns)
>
>
>I m in Arizona and have a CCW. I dont advertise that I always carry my 9.
>
>SW
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Southern Reflections" <purplemoon99@bellsouth.net>
>To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
>Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 6:28 PM
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: You guys are NUTS!!! (was :Non building related
>Question - Hand guns)
>
>
>> <purplemoon99@bellsouth.net>
>>
>> Juan , when I was A kid we would kill gators in those same everglades
>> that you are flying over,with one shot I mite add. Mini-14 is a good
>> choice ,but a.22 is lighter and you can carry 100 rounds in one hand.
>> stinger makes a shell that is a long ,but it is a lot hotter than a
>> regular longs kel-tec makes a small fold up .22 that is just right for a
>> air plane it's a " pack gun " .no where near $500.00 .I also carry a
>> hunting knife in a belt case that also has a hatchet as part of it,good
>> for getting out of the plane in inverted landings;that knife set is made
>> by smith/wesson Joe N101HD
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Juan Vega" <amyvega2005@earthlink.net>
>> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>; <zenith-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 6:52 PM
>> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: You guys are NUTS!!! (was :Non building related
>> Question - Hand guns)
>>
>>
>>>
>>> the problem with the portable rifle is the caliber 0.22 (good for rats)
>>> and the price is way up $500.00. nice to put under the seat though..
>>> Mini 14 is perfect , light, good caliber( 44 mag if desired). anyway, its
>
>>> good emergency in the back f the plane in a duffle alond with a wool
>>> blanket. and a first aid kit. and one good knike, prefeably a stiff k
>>> bar. with a serated side. it comes out and goes home when plane is tied
>>> down.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Southern Reflections <purplemoon99@bellsouth.net>
>>>>Sent: Dec 8, 2008 5:14 PM
>>>>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>>>>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: You guys are NUTS!!! (was :Non building related
>
>>>>Question - Hand guns)
>>>>
>>>><purplemoon99@bellsouth.net>
>>>>
>>>>Have a nice trip Let me see?,you dont have guns up there and you have
>>>>free
>>>>medical. How's that's working out???? Joe N101HD do not archive
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "MacDonald Doug" <dougsnash@yahoo.com>
>>>>To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
>>>>Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 3:55 PM
>>>>Subject: Zenith-List: You guys are NUTS!!! (was :Non building related
>>>>Question - Hand guns)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Wow, I thought is would be safe to come back on this list after your
>>>>> re-design of the 601 settled down, I've only been monitoring things for
>>>>> the last week or so but I see that things have not changed in the
>>>>> least.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am back outa here guys, good luck with your projects if you can ever
>>>>> get
>>>>> off your soapboxes long enough to actually build anything.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do Not Archive
>>>>>
>>>>> Doug MacDonald
>>>>> CH-701 Scratch Builder
>>>>> NW Ontario, Canada
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --- On Mon, 12/8/08, paulrod36@msn.com <paulrod36@msn.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> From: paulrod36@msn.com <paulrod36@msn.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Non building related Question - Hand guns
>>>>>> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>>>>>> Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 2:36 PM
>>>>>> Forgive the ignorance of another barbaric American, but
>>>>>> doesn't Switzerland, the only European country never to
>>>>>> have been invaded, REQUIRE that all able bodied men own a
>>>>>> rifle? However, fear not--- we Americans, having done it
>>>>>> twice before, can still remember how to liberate Europe.
>>>>>> But the question is, will we, or will Europe have to free
>>>>>> itself next time, armed with a bag of high quality hash, a
>>>>>> bottle of Pilsener, and a pack of Galoises? I remember as a
>>>>>> kid telling my uncle I was taking French in school, and he
>>>>>> told me he knew all the French an American needed to know:
>>>>>> "Ou sont les Allemagnes?"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OK. let the flames (flambeaux) begin! On second thought,
>>>>>> let me add a little gasoline--The only people ever brought
>>>>>> to this country against their will were the Africans. So how
>>>>>> come there's more Europeans here than black people?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And now, back to the original question. I wouldn't
>>>>>> bother with a handgun among the survival supplies. You can
>>>>>> get a very nifty collapsible .22 - .410 over-and-under
>>>>>> survival rifle (Remington, I think) for a couple of hundred
>>>>>> bucks, which weighs very little, and is good out to 100
>>>>>> yards.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OK, prepare to flame,-----wait for it,-------FLAME!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Paul Rodriguez
>>>>>> 601XL/Corvair
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | A joke to lighten the tension |
A Polish man moved to the USA and married an American girl.
>
>Although his English was far from perfect, they got along very
well until
>one day he rushed into a lawyer's office and asked him if
he could arrange
>a divorce.
>
>Have you any grounds?
>
>Yes, an acre and a half, a nice little home.
>
>No, I mean what is the foundation of this case?
>
>It is made of concrete.
>
>I don't think you understand. Does either of you have a
grudge?
>
>No , we have a carport, and not need one.
>
>I mean, what are your relations like?
>
>All my relations still in Poland.
>
>Is there any infidelity in your marriage?
>
>We have hi-fidelity stereo and good DVD player.
>
>Does your wife beat you up?
>
>No, I always up before her.
>
>Is your wife a nagger?
>
>No, she white.
>
>Why do you want this divorce?
>
>She is going to kill me.
>
>What makes you think that?
>
>I got proof.
>
>What kind of proof?
>
>She is going to poison me. She bought a bottle at a drugstore
and put it
>on shelf in bathroom. I can read, and it says 'Polish Remover'
Juan Vega
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| Subject: | Re: Non building related Question - Hand guns |
Thanks, Elden. Woody did a great job bringing the airplane out from Florida, even
with the delays from extreme weather and a few minor teething issues.
Hope to see you at Corvair College #13, all sorts of good stuff is waiting in the
wings.
Rick
-----Original Message-----
>From: Elden Jacobson <eldenej@yahoo.com>
>Sent: Dec 8, 2008 6:43 PM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Non building related Question - Hand guns
>
>Rick,
>
>Your reply (rather unlike your earlier invocation of Crichton) has the kind of
temperate quality that I can respect, if not agree with.
>
>I saw your xl in Cloverdale right after Woody Hays delivered it: beautiful!
>
>Elden
>
>
>
>--- On Tue, 12/9/08, Rick Lindstrom <tigerrick@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>From: Rick Lindstrom <tigerrick@mindspring.com>
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Non building related Question - Hand guns
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Date: Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 6:18 AM
>
><tigerrick@mindspring.com>
>
>Elden:
>
>Thanks for the kind words regarding my KP contributions over the years, I'm
>pleased you found them worth reading.
>
>I didn't realize that you and I were having a personal discussion about
>guns, socialism, and the like. Bill D. posed a question and I gave my opinion.
>Which is all it is, heartfelt as it may be. I have never claimed to
>"own" facts, but my observations are based on my personal experience
>over the last half century.
>
>I never claimed Crichton to be an expert, either, but I do know that his
>devotion to scientific method exceeded someone like, say, Al Gore (who has
>masterfully picked and chosen his data points carefully to bolster his
>politically charged theories).
>
>I won't be offended in the slightest if you completely dismiss anything I
>write outside of aviation subjects. But I have been living and observing twice
>as long as I've been flying, so forgive me if the reality of my experiences
>don't neatly overlay with your own.
>
>Best,
>
>Rick
>
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| Subject: | Re: Corvair engine |
Speaking of Corvairs... anyone know of a '65-'69 95/110 core in Texas? I
have struck out with the Houston CORSA chapter...
Dave
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 8:54 AM, Rick Lindstrom <tigerrick@mindspring.com>wrote:
> tigerrick@mindspring.com>
>
> Thanks, Elden. Woody did a great job bringing the airplane out from
> Florida, even with the delays from extreme weather and a few minor teething
> issues.
>
> Hope to see you at Corvair College #13, all sorts of good stuff is waiting
> in the wings.
>
> Rick
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: MA3-SPA Throttle bellcrank |
Bill
Rays 601 HD has the header tank & we have the throttle Mixture Carb Heat &
Tacho on the Left hand side of the panel and route these on the left hand
side of the header tank with no problem to the carb on the bottom front of
the 0-200 & tacho at rear you will have to get the correct length for your
engine if you have a mechanical tacho cable make sure the bends are not to
sharp our first one was to short & the inner cable snapped.
Clive
G CBDG 270 Hrs do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Naumuk" <naumuk@alltel.net>
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 11:13 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: MA3-SPA Throttle bellcrank
>
> Gig-
> Oh, yeah, I've also got the Y stick, so I don't have much choice. I
> just can't believe there isn't a lister out there with the same config as
> mine. Coming up with the measurements after the engine is mounted would be
> a snap, but then you'll be maneuvering around a water buffalo for sure.
> It'd be nice to have all the firewall stuff mounted before hanging the
> engine.
>
> Bill
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gig Giacona" <wrgiacona@gmail.com>
> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 9:34 AM
> Subject: Zenith-List: Re: MA3-SPA Throttle bellcrank
>
>
>>
>>
>> naumuk(at)alltel.net wrote:
>>> Gig-
>>> Unless you have a header tank in the way.
>>> Bill
>>> ---
>>
>>
>> Good point. I've not looked behind the panel of a 601 with a header but
>> while working with the a throttle cable this weekend it seems that you
>> could just use a longer cable to get around a water buffalo behind the
>> panel. Of course I'm not installing dual throttle controls either.
>>
>> --------
>> W.R. "Gig" Giacona
>> 601XL Under Construction
>> See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=218192#218192
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Non building related Question - Hand guns |
My wife just came into my office and asked, "what is that clicking
noise?" I answered my delete key.
Do not archive
--
Leo Gates
N601Z - CH601HDS TDO
Rotax 912UL
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| Subject: | Re: A joke to lighten the tension |
Very good, Juan..
Do not archive
Dave Austin 601HDS - 912
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| Subject: | Re: New Main Landing Gear rubber pads |
I cut new landing gear pads from an ordinary truck mud flap.
Very cheap and fabric reinforced.
Lynn Dingfelder 601 X/L Corvair testing
between snowflakes
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| Subject: | Re: Non building related Question - Hand guns |
List,
My apologies asking the question about hand guns. No harm was intended!
I see I ruffled a few feathers.
Love your God your country and don't for get your heritage. Give respect and it
usually is returned!
Now let's get back to building our airplanes!
Don't forget,
DO NOT ARCHIVE
--
Thanks,
Rich Simmons
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| Subject: | Re: You guys are NUTS!!! (was :Non building related Question |
-
"runnin and screamin like a girl" Juan. Note: This bothered "our" friends more
than 2d Amendment issue.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=218540#218540
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| Subject: | Flap limit switch |
Hello group ,I am need of some electrical help . I have a flap motor
from a Bonanza . I am using a DPDT momentary toggle switch all works
great for reversing the polarity .When I installed the limit switches
all works great until the limit switch was activated ,travel stops as it
should .When I activate the toggle switch for reverse action nothing
happens due to the open circuit of the limit switch .It works as it
should if I just bring it close to the limit switch without tripping it
then reverse action works .Is this typical or should reverse action work
with the limit switch tripped . Thanks
Wade Jones South Texas
601XL Franklin 0-235
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| Subject: | Flap limit switch |
I know you don't have the Zenith flap motor. But did you follow the wiring
diagram on page 6B20 of the plans? You need four wires between the flap
motor and the DPDT (or some diodes) to make it work.
-- Craig
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of wade jones
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 3:02 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Flap limit switch
Hello group ,I am need of some electrical help . I have a flap motor from a
Bonanza . I am using a DPDT momentary toggle switch all works great for
reversing the polarity .When I installed the limit switches all works great
until the limit switch was activated ,travel stops as it should .When I
activate the toggle switch for reverse action nothing happens due to the
open circuit of the limit switch .It works as it should if I just bring it
close to the limit switch without tripping it then reverse action works .Is
this typical or should reverse action work with the limit switch tripped .
Thanks
Wade Jones South Texas
601XL Franklin 0-235
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| Subject: | Re: You guys are NUTS!!! (was :Non building related Question |
-
If you need an example of running and screaming like a girl, just show
her your snake !!!!
She even jumps when one comes on Tv...
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sabrina
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 4:23 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: You guys are NUTS!!! (was :Non building related
Question -
"runnin and screamin like a girl" Juan. Note: This bothered "our" friends
more than 2d Amendment issue.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=218540#218540
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| Subject: | You guys are NUTS!!! (was :Non building related Question |
- Hand guns)
Speaking of Florida, does the group meet at sun and fun?
Roger
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Juan Vega
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 8:47 AM
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: You guys are NUTS!!! (was :Non building related
Question - Hand guns)
Roger,
you would love it down here, I landed in everglades city and saw a few
pilots makin a fuss out in the tie down area and then one guy starts runnin
and screamin like a girl, I go over to check it out and there was a 10
foot, yep easily 10 ft, python pissed as hell under an old plane and the
guy couldnt get in the aircraft cause the thing was under the plane on the
right side by the step. Go figure. I did not have the rifle then , but now
I know why my dad recommended one inn the plane,
I thought that was one of the bigget snakes I had ever seen, until last week
we were in the south Everglades forest and the ranger pointed out a 15 ft.
salt water croc, and a mud slide into the water of what he recorded as a 20
ft. python. Holy #!%#@!%. Welcome to the outback mates! the heck with
Australia!
I will stick to the mini 14.
By the way, I left the airport with the guys as the guys were still yelling
" shoo, shoo big snake! Honey, you go first"
Juan
-----Original Message-----
>From: Roger & Lina Hill <hills@sunflower.com>
>Sent: Dec 8, 2008 11:06 PM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Zenith-List: You guys are NUTS!!! (was :Non building related
Question - Hand guns)
>
<hills@sunflower.com>
>
>
>You just did.....
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of steve
>Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 9:15 PM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: You guys are NUTS!!! (was :Non building related
>Question - Hand guns)
>
>
>I m in Arizona and have a CCW. I dont advertise that I always carry my 9.
>
>SW
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Southern Reflections" <purplemoon99@bellsouth.net>
>To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
>Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 6:28 PM
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: You guys are NUTS!!! (was :Non building related
>Question - Hand guns)
>
>
>> <purplemoon99@bellsouth.net>
>>
>> Juan , when I was A kid we would kill gators in those same everglades
>> that you are flying over,with one shot I mite add. Mini-14 is a good
>> choice ,but a.22 is lighter and you can carry 100 rounds in one hand.
>> stinger makes a shell that is a long ,but it is a lot hotter than a
>> regular longs kel-tec makes a small fold up .22 that is just right for a
>> air plane it's a " pack gun " .no where near $500.00 .I also carry a
>> hunting knife in a belt case that also has a hatchet as part of it,good
>> for getting out of the plane in inverted landings;that knife set is made
>> by smith/wesson Joe N101HD
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Juan Vega" <amyvega2005@earthlink.net>
>> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>; <zenith-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 6:52 PM
>> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: You guys are NUTS!!! (was :Non building related
>> Question - Hand guns)
>>
>>
>>>
>>> the problem with the portable rifle is the caliber 0.22 (good for rats)
>>> and the price is way up $500.00. nice to put under the seat though..
>>> Mini 14 is perfect , light, good caliber( 44 mag if desired). anyway,
its
>
>>> good emergency in the back f the plane in a duffle alond with a wool
>>> blanket. and a first aid kit. and one good knike, prefeably a stiff k
>>> bar. with a serated side. it comes out and goes home when plane is tied
>>> down.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Southern Reflections <purplemoon99@bellsouth.net>
>>>>Sent: Dec 8, 2008 5:14 PM
>>>>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>>>>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: You guys are NUTS!!! (was :Non building
related
>
>>>>Question - Hand guns)
>>>>
>>>><purplemoon99@bellsouth.net>
>>>>
>>>>Have a nice trip Let me see?,you dont have guns up there and you have
>>>>free
>>>>medical. How's that's working out???? Joe N101HD do not archive
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "MacDonald Doug" <dougsnash@yahoo.com>
>>>>To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
>>>>Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 3:55 PM
>>>>Subject: Zenith-List: You guys are NUTS!!! (was :Non building related
>>>>Question - Hand guns)
>>>>
>>>>
<dougsnash@yahoo.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> Wow, I thought is would be safe to come back on this list after your
>>>>> re-design of the 601 settled down, I've only been monitoring things
for
>>>>> the last week or so but I see that things have not changed in the
>>>>> least.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am back outa here guys, good luck with your projects if you can ever
>>>>> get
>>>>> off your soapboxes long enough to actually build anything.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do Not Archive
>>>>>
>>>>> Doug MacDonald
>>>>> CH-701 Scratch Builder
>>>>> NW Ontario, Canada
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --- On Mon, 12/8/08, paulrod36@msn.com <paulrod36@msn.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> From: paulrod36@msn.com <paulrod36@msn.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Non building related Question - Hand guns
>>>>>> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>>>>>> Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 2:36 PM
>>>>>> Forgive the ignorance of another barbaric American, but
>>>>>> doesn't Switzerland, the only European country never to
>>>>>> have been invaded, REQUIRE that all able bodied men own a
>>>>>> rifle? However, fear not--- we Americans, having done it
>>>>>> twice before, can still remember how to liberate Europe.
>>>>>> But the question is, will we, or will Europe have to free
>>>>>> itself next time, armed with a bag of high quality hash, a
>>>>>> bottle of Pilsener, and a pack of Galoises? I remember as a
>>>>>> kid telling my uncle I was taking French in school, and he
>>>>>> told me he knew all the French an American needed to know:
>>>>>> "Ou sont les Allemagnes?"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OK. let the flames (flambeaux) begin! On second thought,
>>>>>> let me add a little gasoline--The only people ever brought
>>>>>> to this country against their will were the Africans. So how
>>>>>> come there's more Europeans here than black people?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And now, back to the original question. I wouldn't
>>>>>> bother with a handgun among the survival supplies. You can
>>>>>> get a very nifty collapsible .22 - .410 over-and-under
>>>>>> survival rifle (Remington, I think) for a couple of hundred
>>>>>> bucks, which weighs very little, and is good out to 100
>>>>>> yards.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OK, prepare to flame,-----wait for it,-------FLAME!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Paul Rodriguez
>>>>>> 601XL/Corvair
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: You guys are NUTS!!! (was :Non building related Question |
-
Last time I did that she just laughed...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger & Lina Hill" <hills@sunflower.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 5:21 PM
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: You guys are NUTS!!! (was :Non building
related Question -
> <hills@sunflower.com>
>
>
> If you need an example of running and screaming like a girl, just show
> her your snake !!!!
>
> She even jumps when one comes on Tv...
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sabrina
> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 4:23 PM
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Zenith-List: Re: You guys are NUTS!!! (was :Non building related
> Question -
>
>
> "runnin and screamin like a girl" Juan. Note: This bothered "our"
> friends
> more than 2d Amendment issue.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=218540#218540
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Flap limit switch |
Ok ,Craig & Jay I think you have helped me .I saw the diagram on 6B20. I
had wired the switch using jumper leads as described by Tony Bingelis on
page 309 of his sportplane construction techniques and only had two
wires between the flap motor and switch .I guess I should remove the
jumpers from the switch and run four wires as 6B20 shows . Thanks
Wade Jones South Texas
601XL Franklin 0-235
----- Original Message -----
From: Craig Payne
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 5:52 PM
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Flap limit switch
I know you don't have the Zenith flap motor. But did you follow the
wiring diagram on page 6B20 of the plans? You need four wires between
the flap motor and the DPDT (or some diodes) to make it work.
-- Craig
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of wade jones
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 3:02 PM
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Subject: Zenith-List: Flap limit switch
Hello group ,I am need of some electrical help . I have a flap motor
from a Bonanza . I am using a DPDT momentary toggle switch all works
great for reversing the polarity .When I installed the limit switches
all works great until the limit switch was activated ,travel stops as it
should .When I activate the toggle switch for reverse action nothing
happens due to the open circuit of the limit switch .It works as it
should if I just bring it close to the limit switch without tripping it
then reverse action works .Is this typical or should reverse action work
with the limit switch tripped . Thanks
Wade Jones South Texas
601XL Franklin 0-235
http://www.matronics.com/contributionhttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Z
enith-Listhttp://forums.matronics.com
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-
do not archive
Dave Austin 601HDS - 912
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| Subject: | Fw: Indian Student |
Dad just sent this, i thought to share it. excuse the language to funny to not
pass on.
Juan
-----Forwarded Message-----
>From: Juan Vega <juanvegasr@bellsouth.net>
>Sent: Dec 9, 2008 7:40 PM
>To: Juan Vega <amyvega2005@earthlink.net>, enidmercado@bellsouth.net
>Subject: Fw: Indian Student
>
>Funny-sorry about the language
>----- Original Message -----
>From: BruceFeher@cs.com
>To: acsund@gmail.com
>Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 11:13 AM
>Subject: Indian Student
>
>
>Indian Student
>
>It was the first day of a school in USA and a new student from India, named Chandrasekhar
Subramanian entered the fourth grade.
>
>The teacher said,
>
>"Let's begin by reviewing some American History. Who said 'Give me Liberty , or
give me Death'?"
>
>She saw a sea of blank faces, except for Chandrasekhar, who had his hand up: 'Patrick
Henry, 1775' he said.
>
>'Very good!'
>
>Who said 'Government of the People, by the People, for the People, shall not perish
from the Earth?'
>
>Again, no response except from Chandrasekhar. 'Abraham Lincoln, 1863' said Chandrasekhar.
>
>The teacher snapped at the class, 'Class, you should be ashamed. Chandrasekhar,
who is new to our country, knows more about its history than you do.'
>
>
>She heard a loud whisper: 'F--k the Indians,'
>'Who said that?' she demanded. Chandrasekhar put his hand up.
>
>'General Custer, 1862.'
>
>At that point, a student in the back said, 'I'm gonna puke.'
>
>The teacher glares around and asks 'All right! Now, who said that?'
>
>Again, Chandrasekhar says, 'George Bush to the Japanese Prime Minister, 1991.'
>
>Now furious, another student yells, 'Oh yeah? Suck this!'
>
>Chandrasekhar jumps out of his chair waving his hand and shouts to the teacher
, 'Bill Clinton, to Monica Lewinsky, 1997!'
>
>Now with almost mob hysteria someone said 'You little shit. If you say anything
else, I'll kill you.'
>
>Chandrasekhar frantically yells at the top of his voice, ' Michael Jackson to
the child witnesses testifying against him- 2004.'
>
>The teacher fainted.
>
>And as the class gathered around the teacher on the floor, someone said, 'Oh shit,
we're screwed!'
>
>And Chandrasekhar said quietly, 'I think it was the American people, November
4th, 2008".
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: You guys are NUTS!!! (was :Non building related |
Question -
too funny
Juan
-----Original Message-----
>From: Sabrina <chicago2paris@msn.com>
>Sent: Dec 9, 2008 5:23 PM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Zenith-List: Re: You guys are NUTS!!! (was :Non building related Question
-
>
>
>"runnin and screamin like a girl" Juan. Note: This bothered "our" friends more
than 2d Amendment issue.
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=218540#218540
>
>
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| Subject: | You guys are NUTS!!! (was :Non building related Question |
- Hand guns)
i shall be there.
-----Original Message-----
>From: Roger & Lina Hill <hills@sunflower.com>
>Sent: Dec 9, 2008 7:21 PM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Zenith-List: You guys are NUTS!!! (was :Non building related Question
- Hand guns)
>
>
>
>Speaking of Florida, does the group meet at sun and fun?
>
>Roger
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Juan Vega
>Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 8:47 AM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Zenith-List: You guys are NUTS!!! (was :Non building related
>Question - Hand guns)
>
>
>Roger,
>you would love it down here, I landed in everglades city and saw a few
>pilots makin a fuss out in the tie down area and then one guy starts runnin
>and screamin like a girl, I go over to check it out and there was a 10
>foot, yep easily 10 ft, python pissed as hell under an old plane and the
>guy couldnt get in the aircraft cause the thing was under the plane on the
>right side by the step. Go figure. I did not have the rifle then , but now
>I know why my dad recommended one inn the plane,
>I thought that was one of the bigget snakes I had ever seen, until last week
>we were in the south Everglades forest and the ranger pointed out a 15 ft.
>salt water croc, and a mud slide into the water of what he recorded as a 20
>ft. python. Holy #!%#@!%. Welcome to the outback mates! the heck with
>Australia!
>I will stick to the mini 14.
>By the way, I left the airport with the guys as the guys were still yelling
>" shoo, shoo big snake! Honey, you go first"
>
>Juan
>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Roger & Lina Hill <hills@sunflower.com>
>>Sent: Dec 8, 2008 11:06 PM
>>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: RE: Zenith-List: You guys are NUTS!!! (was :Non building related
>Question - Hand guns)
>>
><hills@sunflower.com>
>>
>>
>>You just did.....
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
>>[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of steve
>>Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 9:15 PM
>>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: You guys are NUTS!!! (was :Non building related
>>Question - Hand guns)
>>
>>
>>I m in Arizona and have a CCW. I dont advertise that I always carry my 9.
>>
>>SW
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Southern Reflections" <purplemoon99@bellsouth.net>
>>To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
>>Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 6:28 PM
>>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: You guys are NUTS!!! (was :Non building related
>>Question - Hand guns)
>>
>>
>>> <purplemoon99@bellsouth.net>
>>>
>>> Juan , when I was A kid we would kill gators in those same everglades
>>> that you are flying over,with one shot I mite add. Mini-14 is a good
>>> choice ,but a.22 is lighter and you can carry 100 rounds in one hand.
>>> stinger makes a shell that is a long ,but it is a lot hotter than a
>>> regular longs kel-tec makes a small fold up .22 that is just right for a
>
>>> air plane it's a " pack gun " .no where near $500.00 .I also carry a
>>> hunting knife in a belt case that also has a hatchet as part of it,good
>>> for getting out of the plane in inverted landings;that knife set is made
>>> by smith/wesson Joe N101HD
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Juan Vega" <amyvega2005@earthlink.net>
>>> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>; <zenith-list@matronics.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 6:52 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: You guys are NUTS!!! (was :Non building related
>
>>> Question - Hand guns)
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> the problem with the portable rifle is the caliber 0.22 (good for rats)
>>>> and the price is way up $500.00. nice to put under the seat though..
>>>> Mini 14 is perfect , light, good caliber( 44 mag if desired). anyway,
>its
>>
>>>> good emergency in the back f the plane in a duffle alond with a wool
>>>> blanket. and a first aid kit. and one good knike, prefeably a stiff k
>>>> bar. with a serated side. it comes out and goes home when plane is tied
>
>>>> down.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: Southern Reflections <purplemoon99@bellsouth.net>
>>>>>Sent: Dec 8, 2008 5:14 PM
>>>>>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>>>>>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: You guys are NUTS!!! (was :Non building
>related
>>
>>>>>Question - Hand guns)
>>>>>
>>>>><purplemoon99@bellsouth.net>
>>>>>
>>>>>Have a nice trip Let me see?,you dont have guns up there and you have
>>>>>free
>>>>>medical. How's that's working out???? Joe N101HD do not archive
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "MacDonald Doug" <dougsnash@yahoo.com>
>>>>>To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
>>>>>Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 3:55 PM
>>>>>Subject: Zenith-List: You guys are NUTS!!! (was :Non building related
>>>>>Question - Hand guns)
>>>>>
>>>>>
><dougsnash@yahoo.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wow, I thought is would be safe to come back on this list after your
>>>>>> re-design of the 601 settled down, I've only been monitoring things
>for
>>>>>> the last week or so but I see that things have not changed in the
>>>>>> least.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am back outa here guys, good luck with your projects if you can ever
>
>>>>>> get
>>>>>> off your soapboxes long enough to actually build anything.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do Not Archive
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Doug MacDonald
>>>>>> CH-701 Scratch Builder
>>>>>> NW Ontario, Canada
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --- On Mon, 12/8/08, paulrod36@msn.com <paulrod36@msn.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: paulrod36@msn.com <paulrod36@msn.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Non building related Question - Hand guns
>>>>>>> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>>>>>>> Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 2:36 PM
>>>>>>> Forgive the ignorance of another barbaric American, but
>>>>>>> doesn't Switzerland, the only European country never to
>>>>>>> have been invaded, REQUIRE that all able bodied men own a
>>>>>>> rifle? However, fear not--- we Americans, having done it
>>>>>>> twice before, can still remember how to liberate Europe.
>>>>>>> But the question is, will we, or will Europe have to free
>>>>>>> itself next time, armed with a bag of high quality hash, a
>>>>>>> bottle of Pilsener, and a pack of Galoises? I remember as a
>>>>>>> kid telling my uncle I was taking French in school, and he
>>>>>>> told me he knew all the French an American needed to know:
>>>>>>> "Ou sont les Allemagnes?"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OK. let the flames (flambeaux) begin! On second thought,
>>>>>>> let me add a little gasoline--The only people ever brought
>>>>>>> to this country against their will were the Africans. So how
>>>>>>> come there's more Europeans here than black people?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And now, back to the original question. I wouldn't
>>>>>>> bother with a handgun among the survival supplies. You can
>>>>>>> get a very nifty collapsible .22 - .410 over-and-under
>>>>>>> survival rifle (Remington, I think) for a couple of hundred
>>>>>>> bucks, which weighs very little, and is good out to 100
>>>>>>> yards.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OK, prepare to flame,-----wait for it,-------FLAME!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Paul Rodriguez
>>>>>>> 601XL/Corvair
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
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>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Flap limit switch |
You have something wired wrong, each limit switch should interrupt
motion in one direction only. Look carefully at the circuit shown on
page 6-B-20 of the plans. There should be two wires leading to each
side of the motor, one leading to the limit switch and one leading
directly back to the DPDT switch. I think that is most likely where
the error is.
On Dec 9, 2008, at 5:02 PM, wade jones wrote:
> When I installed the limit switches all works great until the limit
> switch was activated ,travel stops as it should .When I activate the
> toggle switch for reverse action nothing happens due to the open
> circuit of the limit switch .It works as it should if I just bring
> it close to the limit switch without tripping it then reverse action
> works .
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL,
RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
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All you folks are terrific! Those who know a lot about the
aircraft, those who try to, all of us work together trying to
maintain this excellent site. I, we, am very proud to be in the
company of this list. This old newbie looks forward to each days'
new posts and the discussions that they engender.
I truly appreciate that all of us maintain strong personal
perspectives on a variety of powerful subjects. That we can express
them to each other and not resort to fisticuffs is a measure of our
respect for each other.
The only thing is, others, members and non, are silenced by
conversations so strong in tone that they quietly retreat to other
sites, not realizing that we are all proud Zenith owners and more
importantly, pilots, that is first and foremost why we get together.
Forecasting snow around here (Seattle) one of these days..... low
ceilings. Damn! I'm a Sport Pilot.
Best to you all,
John R Reinking
Woodinville, WA
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| Subject: | Re: You guys are NUTS!!! (was :Non building related Question |
-
Ops, the she is my wife,,,Douhhh
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of steve
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 6:51 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: You guys are NUTS!!! (was :Non building
related Question -
Last time I did that she just laughed...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger & Lina Hill" <hills@sunflower.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 5:21 PM
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: You guys are NUTS!!! (was :Non building
related Question -
> <hills@sunflower.com>
>
>
> If you need an example of running and screaming like a girl, just show
> her your snake !!!!
>
> She even jumps when one comes on Tv...
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sabrina
> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 4:23 PM
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Zenith-List: Re: You guys are NUTS!!! (was :Non building related
> Question -
>
>
> "runnin and screamin like a girl" Juan. Note: This bothered "our"
> friends
> more than 2d Amendment issue.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=218540#218540
>
>
>
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| Subject: | See ya at sun and fun in Florida ???? |
Howdy all;
So I guess the question is, have you guys met up at sun and fun before. If
so, is there a special meeting place, or do ya
just walk around with a "follow me to Matronics" sign on your back?
I think it would be fun to arrange a time and place to meet up, any ideas,
or is December to early to plan these things?
Roger
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| Subject: | Re: Do you value this list? |
I was going to make a contribution to the list in late November but got busy
as my Mother passed away on Nov 30th.. After reading all the garbage being
posted the last few days, I think maybe This list is a waste of time for
Airplane builders and people who actually fly what they build. Jerry
Shepard, flying CH701 N2562P
----- Original Message -----
From: "Art Gibeaut" <aagibeaut@yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Do you value this list?
>
>
> Craig is right guys. Nothing good can come from these off topic strings.
> There are all kinds of places to carry these discussions and we need to
> keep this list focused on building airplanes and helping each other.
> Please stop this.
>
> Do not archive.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Craig Payne <craig@craigandjean.com>
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Monday, December 8, 2008 4:31:28 PM
> Subject: Zenith-List: Do you value this list?
>
>
> Do you value this list? Did you recently make a contribution to Matt to
> support it?
>
> THEN WHY DAMAGE IT?
>
> Every post you make on controversial, non-aviation related topics hurts
> this
> list. You drive people away. You stir up emotions that get in the way of
> factual aviation-related discussions. You waste builders time.
>
> Your posts, no matter how clever, cutting or brilliant - WILL NOT CHANGE
> MINDS on topics that have been argued over forever.
>
> There are plenty of places to have political discussions. There is only
> one
> Zenith list. If you damage or destroy it then you will have no other place
> to go for help in building your Zenith aircraft.
>
> So before you reach for your keyboard to fire off your next response
> please
> reflect on the above.
>
> -- Craig
>
> (oh, and do not archive)
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: All of us here |
Working together . . . without resorting to fisticuffs? . . . Man, you really haven't
been here long! :-)
Kevin Bonds
Nashville TN
-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: John Reinking <reinkings@comcast.net>
>
> All you folks are terrific! Those who know a lot about the
> aircraft, those who try to, all of us work together trying to
> maintain this excellent site. I, we, am very proud to be in the
> company of this list. This old newbie looks forward to each days'
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| Subject: | Re: Do you value this list? |
you are missing the point. the list is no longer just an info exchange, but of
people who have the same desires and goals of building an aircraft and that have
built a relationship with each other, through that common thread. We each
know that we can ask questioins about building, issues that are not about building,
support each other, especially in tough times, and know that in the end
we have the support of other builders. We have celabrated people's achievements,
prayed for peoples losses, stated opinions not so agreeable to each other.
In the end we are around this campfire, telling stories, praying for the future,
dreaming about things to come and plans that hopefully will be fullfilled.
I may not agree with some opinions, but there is no For me... its all good.
Happy Holidays
Juan
-----Original Message-----
>From: jerry Shepaed <jshep00@centurytel.net>
>Sent: Dec 9, 2008 10:37 PM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Do you value this list?
>
>
>I was going to make a contribution to the list in late November but got busy
>as my Mother passed away on Nov 30th.. After reading all the garbage being
>posted the last few days, I think maybe This list is a waste of time for
>Airplane builders and people who actually fly what they build. Jerry
>Shepard, flying CH701 N2562P
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Art Gibeaut" <aagibeaut@yahoo.com>
>To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
>Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 5:15 PM
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Do you value this list?
>
>
>>
>>
>> Craig is right guys. Nothing good can come from these off topic strings.
>> There are all kinds of places to carry these discussions and we need to
>> keep this list focused on building airplanes and helping each other.
>> Please stop this.
>>
>> Do not archive.
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Craig Payne <craig@craigandjean.com>
>> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: Monday, December 8, 2008 4:31:28 PM
>> Subject: Zenith-List: Do you value this list?
>>
>>
>> Do you value this list? Did you recently make a contribution to Matt to
>> support it?
>>
>> THEN WHY DAMAGE IT?
>>
>> Every post you make on controversial, non-aviation related topics hurts
>> this
>> list. You drive people away. You stir up emotions that get in the way of
>> factual aviation-related discussions. You waste builders time.
>>
>> Your posts, no matter how clever, cutting or brilliant - WILL NOT CHANGE
>> MINDS on topics that have been argued over forever.
>>
>> There are plenty of places to have political discussions. There is only
>> one
>> Zenith list. If you damage or destroy it then you will have no other place
>> to go for help in building your Zenith aircraft.
>>
>> So before you reach for your keyboard to fire off your next response
>> please
>> reflect on the above.
>>
>> -- Craig
>>
>> (oh, and do not archive)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: See ya at sun and fun in Florida ???? |
roger,
there is usually a kick ass barb que at one of the RVs after the show on thursday.
FIrst time atendies bring the Hootch!
Juan
-----Original Message-----
>From: Roger & Lina Hill <hills@sunflower.com>
>Sent: Dec 9, 2008 10:17 PM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Zenith-List: See ya at sun and fun in Florida ????
>
>Howdy all;
>
>
>
>So I guess the question is, have you guys met up at sun and fun before. If
>so, is there a special meeting place, or do ya
>
>just walk around with a "follow me to Matronics" sign on your back?
>
>
>
>I think it would be fun to arrange a time and place to meet up, any ideas,
>or is December to early to plan these things?
>
>
>
>Roger
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: All of us here |
answr for low clouds, scud runnin!!
JUan
-----Original Message-----
>From: John Reinking <reinkings@comcast.net>
>Sent: Dec 9, 2008 9:55 PM
>To: Zenith-List Digest Server <zenith-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Zenith-List: All of us here
>
>
>All you folks are terrific! Those who know a lot about the
>aircraft, those who try to, all of us work together trying to
>maintain this excellent site. I, we, am very proud to be in the
>company of this list. This old newbie looks forward to each days'
>new posts and the discussions that they engender.
>
>I truly appreciate that all of us maintain strong personal
>perspectives on a variety of powerful subjects. That we can express
>them to each other and not resort to fisticuffs is a measure of our
>respect for each other.
>
>The only thing is, others, members and non, are silenced by
>conversations so strong in tone that they quietly retreat to other
>sites, not realizing that we are all proud Zenith owners and more
>importantly, pilots, that is first and foremost why we get together.
>
>Forecasting snow around here (Seattle) one of these days..... low
>ceilings. Damn! I'm a Sport Pilot.
>
>Best to you all,
>
>John R Reinking
>Woodinville, WA
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Flap limit switch |
Wade you will also have to reverse the way the drawing shows because unless
they revised the DPDT switch diagram it was backwards.
Jeff
I know you don=99t have the Zenith flap motor. But did you follow the
wiring
diagram on page 6B20 of the plans? You need four wires between the flap mo
tor
and the DPDT (or some diodes) to make it work.
-- Craig
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