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1. 05:15 AM - Re: Fuel Doors/Non-flush caps 601XL (ashontz)
2. 06:20 AM - Compass (BobbyPaulk@comcast.net)
3. 06:59 AM - Re: Compass (Gig Giacona)
4. 08:17 AM - Tire Mounting (Don Mountain)
5. 09:39 AM - Re: Tire Mounting (Bryan Martin)
6. 10:32 AM - Re: Tire Mounting (Juan Vega)
7. 01:01 PM - Re: Re: Non building related Question - Hand guns (Eric Tiethoff (HCCNet))
8. 03:58 PM - Do you know what a throttle bellcrank IS? (Bill Naumuk)
9. 04:08 PM - Grounding Of Fuel Senders (Dave VanLanen)
10. 04:15 PM - Digital Level Final (Bill Naumuk)
11. 06:13 PM - Re: Compass (Afterfxllc@aol.com)
12. 07:39 PM - Re: Digital Level Final (burbby)
13. 08:11 PM - Re: Grounding Of Fuel Senders (Leo Gates)
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Doors/Non-flush caps 601XL |
I'm still debating moving the sender down to the lowside, but I did notice an added
bonus of having the sender at the high side. When the tank reads empty, there's
still like a gallon and a half in there; built in reserve, time to get
on the ground for real. Get down to 1/4 or less and that's a good time either
switch tanks or start looking to put down, Hits empty, hubba hubba time for sure,
but at least there's something in there. I put the tank on an angle and when
the float hits the bottom, that's about how much is left in the low side. Not
a bad design really. It has it's advantages.
Of course I'd manage my fuel like a pro anyway, but I kind of like knowing that
on empty, there's still fuel in there covering the outlet hole.
Ron Lendon wrote:
> Andy,
>
> I used the Zenith flanges and they present very little problem or wind resistance
from what I see.
>
> Been thinking about your using the sending units in the filler end. How are
you going to measure the fuel in the low side of the tank? I am most interested
in how much fuel is left in the tank as it nears the empty mark. With the
sending units mounted on the high end you must be using a real long arm to get
the float to the other end of the tank.
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Andy Shontz
do not archive
CH601XL - Corvair
www.mykitlog.com/ashontz
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Guys,
ya'll are getting to "clinical" figuring out how to mount the remote compass within
a .01 deg. the Dynon is a great instrument it works better than any other
compass i have ever flown behind. after solving self inflicted problems ( magnetized
rudder cable). if you mount the D-100 or DEK-180 parallel to the bottom
of the instrument panel and the compass on a parallel surface it'll work. otherwise
if you parked on a slope it would not. just make sure it's pointed in
the same direction as the nose of the plane : )
bobby
68 hrs pointed in the right direction
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I wouldn't call it clinical. I did what Dynon and SteinAir (the guys that make
the wiring harnesses for Dynon and built my avionics stack) said to do. Get the
remote as far away from the stuff that could cause problems as I could and still
be able to get to it. They included LOTS of cable (I ran out of airplane
before I ran out of cable) so I did just that. Doing that put it back in the rear
of the fuselage where there is a 3 degree difference.
BobbyPaulk(at)comcast.net wrote:
> Guys,
> ya'll are getting to "clinical" figuring out how to mount the remote compass
within a .01 deg. the Dynon is a great instrument it works better than any other
compass i have ever flown behind. after solving self inflicted problems ( magnetized
rudder cable). if you mount the D-100 or DEK-180 parallel to the bottom
of the instrument panel and the compass on a parallel surface it'll work.
otherwise if you parked on a slope it would not. just make sure it's pointed
in the same direction as the nose of the plane : )
>
> bobby
> 68 hrs pointed in the right direction
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W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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I am working on the landing gear of my 601XL, and wondering what is the bes
t way to mount tires on the rims.- I have the talc powder called out in t
he instructions that came with the wheels, to go between the tire and tube
to let them move against each other.- And they call out "grease" around t
he valve stem.- What kind of grease should I use?- And do I use liquid
dish soap on the tire bead where it seats on the rim like I do when mountin
g car and tractor tires?- I had to grind the side off a small socket wren
ch to fit the head of the bolts holding the rims together.- It was really
close to the side of the rim.
Don, 601XL
tail, wings done
fuselage close to being done
canopy next
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| Subject: | Re: Tire Mounting |
You shouldn't need any soap on the tire bead since you are using split
rims that will be assembled with the tire in place. Soap on automotive
tires is just to lubricate the bead area to make it easier to to mount
the tires on the one piece rims.
On Dec 11, 2008, at 11:16 AM, Don Mountain wrote:
> I am working on the landing gear of my 601XL, and wondering what is
> the best way to mount tires on the rims. And do I use liquid dish
> soap on the tire bead where it seats on the rim like I do when
> mounting car and tractor tires?
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Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL,
RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
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| Subject: | Re: Tire Mounting |
tke the two pieces, insert tube into tire, place each half of rim on each half
of rim, and bolt together. you may need to work the rim a little to inflate.
best isd to use a high pressure tire hose. voila! done.
Juan
-----Original Message-----
>From: Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
>Sent: Dec 11, 2008 12:38 PM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Tire Mounting
>
>
>You shouldn't need any soap on the tire bead since you are using split
>rims that will be assembled with the tire in place. Soap on automotive
>tires is just to lubricate the bead area to make it easier to to mount
>the tires on the one piece rims.
>
>On Dec 11, 2008, at 11:16 AM, Don Mountain wrote:
>
>> I am working on the landing gear of my 601XL, and wondering what is
>> the best way to mount tires on the rims. And do I use liquid dish
>> soap on the tire bead where it seats on the rim like I do when
>> mounting car and tractor tires?
>
>
>--
>Bryan Martin
>N61BM, CH 601 XL,
>RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Non building related Question - Hand guns |
Sounds much like a European expat ! When do you go back ?
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From: "hansriet" <hansinla@mac.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 3:29 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Non building related Question - Hand guns
>
> [quote="ashontz"]Yeah, the gummint would LOVE everyone disarmed, that way
> they can more easily shove socialism (communism with patience) down
> everyone's throats. There's a reason the right to bear arms is allegedly
> protected by the Constitution, for good reason too. We're sliding down a
> slippery slope here in the US.
>
> [quote="jaybannist(at)cs.com"]Why in the world should anyone want to
> protect himself? That is what the gov'ment is for? (Laughing my head off)
> (:>)
>
> Jay in Dallas
> Do not archive
>
> What that F**K has socialism to do with any of this?
> In my opinion the majority of the violence in the US is caused by the fact
> that about every moron is allowed to carry a weapon. Why is it that in
> civilized countries (i.e. the old world) kids don't by accident blow their
> brains out with daddies gun? Gas stations and seven-elevens aren't being
> robbed? A Vice President almost blows his friend's brains out? You guys
> really have to wake up and smell the coffee. The majority of the
> population consists of idiots and shouldn't be trusted with deadly
> weapons.
>
> The way to go is: a ban on firearms and YES raise the damn taxes so I
> don't have to slam into a million potholes when I drive to work. Only
> people that have NEVER been abroad assume that the US has the best
> infrastructure in the world.
>
> I have circumnavigated the globe and believe me; we're not much better off
> than a third world country. Our energy grid is outdated, our levies suck,
> the roads look like shit and our educational system is ranked one of the
> lowest in the world (Japan and the Netherlands are number one and two by
> the way). Hooray for capitalism!
> That free market model really works well for us! Come on. Stop parroting
> what your parents and the GOP made you believe and form yourself an
> educated opinion.
>
> I love this country but I do get sick and tired of people who think we're
> all that and a bag of chips. We can make this place so much better if
> we're willing to open our eyes and when we're adopting what works well in
> other parts of the world. And now back to flying, because that's one of
> the things the US excels in: our general aviation rocks. Sorry for the
> rant.
>
>
> --[/quote][/quote]
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=218799#218799
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Do you know what a throttle bellcrank IS? |
All-
99.99% of the listers who responded to my posts have no idea what
I've been talking about. Attached is the section from my HDS manual- THE
BIG ROD ASSEMBLY THAT GOES OVER THE HORIZONTAL FIREWALL BRACE! WHERE DO
YOU POSITION THE UPRIGHTS TO ACCOMMODATE AN MA3-SPA?? The cable for an
MA3 comes from the right side of the centerline looking at the firewall
from the front. That's why I'm thinking I can just swap this drawing end
for end.
Sorry for the use of caps- I'm not mad, just frustrated.
Thanks.
do not archive
Bill Naumuk
Townville, Pa.
HDS 601MG/Corvair 95%
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| Subject: | Grounding Of Fuel Senders |
I have attended a couple of forums at AirVenture on the subject of aircraft
electrical systems, and the presenters have been consistent in recommending
the routing of a return wire from every component to the universal ground
bus, to help insure that there are no "ground loops" introduced into the
system that can cause electrical problems. I personally think this is
relatively cheap insurance against grounding issues, and I plan to follow
this advice. However, with the VDO fuel senders, the sender is not designed
to be isolated from the fuel tank / airframe because the inner mounting ring
and mounting screws are in metal-to-metal contact with the fuel tank and
sender case, and thus are also connected to the airframe by virture of the
grounding strap installed from the fuel tank to the airframe. And even if
the sender were to be isolated from the tank and airframe via use of
shoulder washers under the mounting screws, there is no grounding lug on the
case of the sending unit itself to attach a return wire to. Has anyone
experienced any "ground loop" or other electrical issues with the senders
when grounding via a mounting screw as instructed by ZAC? Has anyone
figured out a simple way to isolate the sender from the airframe and install
an attachment to the sender case for a return wire to the ground buss?
Thanks,
Dave Van Lanen
601XL - working on wings
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| Subject: | Digital Level Final |
All-
I intend to pick up a digital level at Home Depot or Lowes. Too bad
the HF turned out to be a digital compass, bubble level because the
price was right, the tool was wrong, as was the written description from
HF.
A couple of comments:
1. The Dynon sender and display have to agree within plus/minus 1
degree, not .01 degree.
2. I have a number of tools that I've spent big money on but only
used once or twice. In retrospect, I think my NicoPress crimper was a
good investment vs. a cold chisel.
3. For the lister who said that he now had an outrageous 600 hours
in on his project, probably because he used a digital level since day
one and was too fastidious-
I passed 1000 hrs about the time my grandson was born, and he's
ready to fly. Ever seen a 3 year old in a bomber jacket?
do not archive
Bill Naumuk
Townville, Pa.
HDS 601MG/Corvair 95%
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AMEN
Guys,
ya'll are getting to "clinical" figuring out how to mount the remote compass
within a .01 deg. the Dynon is a great instrument it works better than any
other compass i have ever flown behind. after solving self inflicted problems
( magnetized rudder cable). if you mount the D-100 or DEK-180 parallel to the
bottom of the instrument panel and the compass on a parallel surface it'll
work. otherwise if you parked on a slope it would not. just make sure it's
pointed in the same direction as the nose of the plane : )
bobby
68 hrs pointed in the right direction
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| Subject: | Re: Digital Level Final |
Our Sears Store had on on sale last Sat for 24.99.--- Im hoping Santa
was watching.
-
Thanks
Gary
--- On Thu, 12/11/08, Bill Naumuk <naumuk@alltel.net> wrote:
From: Bill Naumuk <naumuk@alltel.net>
Subject: Zenith-List: Digital Level Final
All-
--- I intend to pick up a digital level at Home Depot or Lowes. Too b
ad the HF turned out to be a digital compass, bubble level because the pric
e was right, the tool was wrong, as-was the written description from HF.
--- A couple of comments:
--- 1. The Dynon sender and display have to agree within plus/minus 1
degree, not .01 degree.
--- 2. I have a number of tools that I've spent big money on but only
used once or twice. In retrospect, I think-my NicoPress crimper was a go
od investment vs. a cold chisel.
--- 3. For the lister who said that he now had an outrageous 600 hour
s in on his project, probably because he used a digital level since day one
and was too fastidious-
--- I passed 1000 hrs about the time my grandson was born, and he's r
eady to fly. Ever seen a 3 year old in a bomber jacket?
--- --- --- --- --- --- --- -
-- --- ------------- do not archive
Bill Naumuk
Townville, Pa.
HDS 601MG/Corvair 95%
=0A=0A=0A
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| Subject: | Re: Grounding Of Fuel Senders |
I have had no problem with the fuel sender grounded to the tank and the
tank grounded to the air frame.
--
Leo Gates
N601Z - CH601HDS TDO
Rotax 912UL
Dave VanLanen wrote:
>
> I Has anyone experienced any ground loop or other electrical issues
> with the senders when grounding via a mounting screw as instructed by
> ZAC? Has anyone figured out a simple way to isolate the sender from
> the airframe and install an attachment to the sender case for a return
> wire to the ground buss?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dave Van Lanen
>
> 601XL working on wings
>
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