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1. 04:03 AM - Chat Room Reminder (George Race)
2. 06:49 AM - Re: William Wynne Parts for sale (Jason Bogli)
3. 06:59 AM - Re: William Wynne Parts for sale (Rick Lindstrom)
4. 07:56 AM - How good is your eyeball? (Terry Phillips)
5. 08:41 AM - Re: How good is your eyeball? (Al Hays)
6. 08:42 AM - Re: Aileron Trim Tab Lessons Learned Request (Dave VanLanen)
7. 08:53 AM - Re: Canopy / Rail Flush to Fusealge side (DaveG601XL)
8. 12:14 PM - Re: William Wynne Parts for sale (Afterfxllc@aol.com)
9. 01:00 PM - unrolling the canopy (chris Sinfield)
10. 01:19 PM - Re: unrolling the canopy (jaybannist@cs.com)
11. 01:20 PM - Re: unrolling the canopy (Thruster87)
12. 01:35 PM - Re: unrolling the canopy (Paul Mulwitz)
13. 03:47 PM - Re: Re: unrolling the canopy (Roger & Lina Hill)
14. 04:09 PM - Re: unrolling the canopy (Thruster87)
15. 04:18 PM - Re: unrolling the canopy (dingfelder)
16. 04:18 PM - Re: How good is your eyeball? (leinad)
17. 04:35 PM - Re: Re: How good is your eyeball? (Terry Phillips)
18. 04:47 PM - Re: Re: How good is your eyeball? (raymondj)
19. 05:01 PM - Re: unrolling the canopy (chris Sinfield)
20. 05:11 PM - Re: Re: unrolling the canopy (jaybannist@cs.com)
21. 05:32 PM - Re: Re: How good is your eyeball? (Craig Payne)
22. 05:39 PM - Re: Re: unrolling the canopy (Roger & Lina Hill)
23. 05:46 PM - Re: Re: unrolling the canopy (Roger & Lina Hill)
24. 06:47 PM - Unrolling the canopy (dingfelder)
25. 07:24 PM - Possible almost finished XL for sale (Mike)
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| Subject: | Chat Room Reminder |
Please join us for the Monday evening chat room starting around 8:00 PM
Eastern Time.
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| Subject: | Re: William Wynne Parts for sale |
Hi Jeff:
Id be interested in:
the John Deere Alt/ reg. - dont need the bracket though.
rear oil housing - was this rebuilt by WW ?
oil pan - is this the light weight pan, or the older version ?
Let me know.
Jason Bogli
The Law Office of Jason Bogli LLC
198R Salmon Brook Street
Granby, CT 06035
860 653 7701
860 413 9342
www.jboglilaw.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Afterfxllc@aol.com
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 4:37 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: William Wynne Parts for sale
I have some WW / Corvair parts for sale. I would like to sell it all
together but will part out if no one wants it all.
1. John Deer alt and regulator 30 hrs on this unit. with WW Bracket
$275.00
2. WW rear oil housing with new oil pump $150.00
3. WW engine Mount NEW $450.00
4. WW baffle kit NEW $200.00
5. 2 WW Oil Pans Used $150.00 each
6. WW One piece Nose Bowl New $300.00
7. WW front starter kit Used 30 hrs $300.00
Thanks,
Jeff Garrett
Louisville Ky.
601XL N962T Aerolite Corvair 90%
601XL N524B Aerolite Corvair 155 Hrs
601XL N2257 Aerolite Corvair 225 Hrs
www.aeroliteproducts.com
www.project601xl.com
www.aerolite.camstreams.com
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| Subject: | Re: William Wynne Parts for sale |
Hi, Jeff.
Sorry I had to get off of the phone yesterday evening, my son was just leaving
with his recruiter to head off for the Marine Corps Recruit Depot in San Diego.
Still have that big pit in my stomach, but it's what my kid has his heart set
on. Semper Fi.
I do have some questions about your pile of "experienced" parts, though.
You mentioned that you thought the motor mount was off by 7/16". In what dimension?
What did Ed say about it?
What comes with the starter and alternator kits?
Anything about the old-style welded oil pans that would make them unservicable?
Or the oil pump and housing?
Assuming that everything is jake, I'd be more than happy to relieve you of your
excess inventory, providing we can agree on a figure that's worth it for you
and a deal for me.
;-)
Best,
Rick
-----Original Message-----
>From: Afterfxllc@aol.com
>Sent: Jan 4, 2009 1:37 PM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Zenith-List: William Wynne Parts for sale
>
>
>I have some WW / Corvair parts for sale. I would like to sell it all
>together but will part out if no one wants it all.
>
>1. John Deer alt and regulator 30 hrs on this unit. with WW Bracket $275.00
>
>2. WW rear oil housing with new oil pump $150.00
>
>3. WW engine Mount NEW $450.00
>
>4. WW baffle kit NEW $200.00
>
>5. 2 WW Oil Pans Used $150.00 each
>
>6. WW One piece Nose Bowl New $300.00
>
>7. WW front starter kit Used 30 hrs $300.00
>
>Thanks,
>
>Jeff Garrett
>Louisville Ky.
>601XL N962T Aerolite Corvair 90%
>601XL N524B Aerolite Corvair 155 Hrs
>601XL N2257 Aerolite Corvair 225 Hrs
>_www.aeroliteproducts.com_ (http://www.aeroliteproducts.com/)
>_www.project601xl.com_ (http://www.project601xl.com/)
>www.aerolite.camstreams.com
>**************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making
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| Subject: | How good is your eyeball? |
Folks
We all drill lots of holes and cut lots of parts. Here's a exercise to see
how well you can eyeball those cuts:
http://woodgears.ca/eyeball/
Terry
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Terry Phillips ZBAGer
ttp44~at~rkymtn.net
Corvallis MT
601XL/Jab 3300 s .. l .. o .. o .. w build kit - Tail, flaps, & ailerons
are done; working on the wings
http://www.mykitlog.com/N47TP/
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| Subject: | Re: How good is your eyeball? |
Only got 4.20 so guess I'll be corkscrewing thru the sky. Bummer.
Al
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On Jan 5, 2009, at 10:45 AM, Terry Phillips wrote:
>
> Folks
>
> We all drill lots of holes and cut lots of parts. Here's a exercise
> to see how well you can eyeball those cuts:
>
> http://woodgears.ca/eyeball/
>
> Terry
> no not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron Trim Tab Lessons Learned Request |
I had the same experience. It appears that the plans are incorrect. When I
first asked ZAC about it, they suggested overlapping the spar flange with
the servo, which I didn't think was a good idea, so I asked if I could move
the servo rearward and they said that would work just fine. I moved the
servo rearward until I had about 2mm to 3mm of clearnce from the aileron
spar flange, and then went from there.
Regards,
Dave Van Lanen
601XL - tail done, flaps done, finishing ailerons
Time: 02:29:45 PM PST US
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Aileron Trim Tab Lessons Learned Request
From: "nosky2high" <nosky2high@yahoo.com>
See these attached photos of the top and bottom aileron skin measurements
for the
trim tab and motor.
The plans call for 145mm from edge of trim tab cut out to the bottom row of
holes
in the servo, by my measurements 135mm is the better measurement due to
interference
with the aileron spar flange. Any others out there experiencing the
same issue? I love pre-punched skins just wish they'd pre-punched out the
trim
tab like they do in the elevator.
higher resolution photos available here;
http://picasaweb.google.com/nosky2high/WingKitFlapsAilerons?feat=directlink
if the attached downsized photos don't explain the situation well enough.
phone call to ZAC tomorrow.
Anthony
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy / Rail Flush to Fusealge side |
Rich,
My canopy rail is close to being flush to the fuselage sides all along it's length.
Not exactly flush, but close. Wherever it is not flush, it overhangs slightly.
The attached picture is the only one I could find that kind of shows
the fit. This was accomplished by judicious bending of the frame. Without access
to any kind of bending equipment, I used clamps, table corners and a bit
of mallet hammering to coax it. Once I got the frame w/ tubes attached to sit
where I wanted it, I placed the strikers to match. By the way, I had to shim
the strikers up for the best latching spot.
Good luck,
--------
David Gallagher
601 XL/Jabiru 3300
First flight 7/24/08
Phase I flight test complete 10/16/08
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| Subject: | Re: William Wynne Parts for sale |
Jason
Can you give me a call so i can get your information and answer any
questions you might have.
Jeff
502-644-8123
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| Subject: | unrolling the canopy |
is it best to put the canopy out in the sun before unrolling it.? A few people
have said theirs cracked as they unrolled them. Mine has been stored in the shed
for 2 years.
Chris
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| Subject: | Re: unrolling the canopy |
Chris,
Do not even think about doing ANYTHING with the canopy bubble unless it is at LEAST
75 degF (24 degC).? The warmer, the better!
Jay in Dallas
-----Original Message-----
From: chris Sinfield <chris_sinfield@yahoo.com.au>
Sent: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 2:59 pm
Subject: Zenith-List: unrolling the canopy
is it best to put the canopy out in the sun before unrolling it.? A few people
have said theirs cracked as they unrolled them. Mine has been stored in the shed
for 2 years.
Chris
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| Subject: | Re: unrolling the canopy |
Hi Chris, I just put my canopy on with NO cracking so far and it had been sitting
in the garage for 9 months rolled up.With day temps around the 25-30Deg in
the Sydney area there should be no problems.I'm also looking at maybe using rubber
grommet inserts as that is what was used on my Thruster TST with good results
and it had no cracks around the holes after 5yrs. Cheers
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| Subject: | Re: unrolling the canopy |
Hi Chris,
One thing you do not want to do is expose your canopy to sun
light. I understand it will fuse the protective film to the acrylic
and you will need to probably buy a new canopy.
Paul
XL getting close
At 12:59 PM 1/5/2009, you wrote:
>is it best to put the canopy out in the sun before unrolling it.? A
>few people have said theirs cracked as they unrolled them. Mine has
>been stored in the shed for 2 years.
>Chris
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| Subject: | Re: unrolling the canopy |
Your working on a canopy in 25-30 degree weather??? Are you nuts?
That thing will pop like a ballon,,,,
oh wait, your in Sydney,,,that's on the
Metric system, right?
Ok, never mind (but you might still be nuts).
Roger
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From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Thruster87
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 3:20 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: unrolling the canopy
Hi Chris, I just put my canopy on with NO cracking so far and it had been
sitting in the garage for 9 months rolled up.With day temps around the
25-30Deg in the Sydney area there should be no problems.I'm also looking at
maybe using rubber grommet inserts as that is what was used on my Thruster
TST with good results and it had no cracks around the holes after 5yrs.
Cheers
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| Subject: | Re: unrolling the canopy |
I keep forgetting some countries still use the OLD Imperial scale [For Queen/KING
and Country].The issue should have been finalized back at the Boston Tea
party Times and they drive on the wrong side of the street to boot as well !!!!!!!!!
So whose NUTS? OH I forgot already!!!!
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| Subject: | Re: unrolling the canopy |
A related thing that I learned while working with my canopy --
If you have protective canopy film that is difficult to remove, or excess
rubber trim adhesive (before it fully cures) on your canopy, isopropyl
alcohol dry gas on a very soft cotton rag will remove it with no effect on
the plastic canopy.
Lynn 601 XL /
Corvair Flight Testing
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| Subject: | Re: How good is your eyeball? |
Terry,
I noticed the game is messed up depending on the aspect ratio of your computer
screen.
Dan
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Terry Phillips wrote:
> Folks
>
> We all drill lots of holes and cut lots of parts. Here's a exercise to see
> how well you can eyeball those cuts:
>
> http://woodgears.ca/eyeball/
>
> Terry
> do not archive
>
>
>
> Terry Phillips ZBAGer
> ttp44~at~rkymtn.net
> Corvallis MT
> 601XL/Jab 3300 s .. l .. o .. o .. w build kit - Tail, flaps, & ailerons
> are done; working on the wings
> http://www.mykitlog.com/N47TP/
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| Subject: | Re: How good is your eyeball? |
Dan
That's interesting. I cannot imagine how it would work with some screens
but not others. But then I have no idea how one would program such a thing
in the 1st place. My screen is a 19" LCD that operates at 1440x900, and the
game appears to work fine.
I averaged 2.81. I found that some I hit right on and on others I was way
off. That's why I've spent way too much money on various measuring devices.
Can't trust these old eyes.
Terry
At 04:17 PM 1/5/2009 -0800, you wrote:
>Terry,
>I noticed the game is messed up depending on the aspect ratio of your
>computer screen.
>Dan
>do not archive
Terry Phillips ZBAGer
ttp44~at~rkymtn.net
Corvallis MT
601XL/Jab 3300 s .. l .. o .. o .. w build kit - Tail, flaps, & ailerons
are done; working on the wings
http://www.mykitlog.com/N47TP/
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| Subject: | Re: How good is your eyeball? |
This link from the page discusses some issues with monitors.
http://woodgears.ca/eyeball/square.html
Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN
"Hope for the best,
but prepare for the worst."
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Terry Phillips" <ttp44@rkymtn.net>
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: How good is your eyeball?
>
> Dan
>
> That's interesting. I cannot imagine how it would work with some screens
> but not others. But then I have no idea how one would program such a thing
> in the 1st place. My screen is a 19" LCD that operates at 1440x900, and
> the
> game appears to work fine.
>
> I averaged 2.81. I found that some I hit right on and on others I was way
> off. That's why I've spent way too much money on various measuring
> devices.
> Can't trust these old eyes.
>
> Terry
>
>
> At 04:17 PM 1/5/2009 -0800, you wrote:
>>Terry,
>>I noticed the game is messed up depending on the aspect ratio of your
>>computer screen.
>>Dan
>>do not archive
>
>
> Terry Phillips ZBAGer
> ttp44~at~rkymtn.net
> Corvallis MT
> 601XL/Jab 3300 s .. l .. o .. o .. w build kit - Tail, flaps, & ailerons
> are done; working on the wings
> http://www.mykitlog.com/N47TP/
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: unrolling the canopy |
Thanks.everyone..
today in the shade its 41 deg C. here in Sydney.. I will unwrap my canopy in the
shade..
Chris..
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| Subject: | Re: unrolling the canopy |
WOW !? 41 degC.? That's 106 degF.? It gets that hot here in Dallas, but I had
no idea it got that hot in Sydney.
Jay in Dallas
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-----Original Message-----
From: chris Sinfield <chris_sinfield@yahoo.com.au>
Sent: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 6:59 pm
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: unrolling the canopy
Thanks.everyone..
today in the shade its 41 deg C. here in Sydney.. I will unwrap my canopy in the
shade..
Chris..
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| Subject: | Re: How good is your eyeball? |
Yes, that is specifically mentioned in the help/about page.
-- Craig
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[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of leinad
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 5:18 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: How good is your eyeball?
Terry,
I noticed the game is messed up depending on the aspect ratio of your
computer screen.
Dan
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Terry Phillips wrote:
> Folks
>
> We all drill lots of holes and cut lots of parts. Here's a exercise to see
> how well you can eyeball those cuts:
>
> http://woodgears.ca/eyeball/
>
> Terry
> do not archive
>
>
>
> Terry Phillips ZBAGer
> ttp44~at~rkymtn.net
> Corvallis MT
> 601XL/Jab 3300 s .. l .. o .. o .. w build kit - Tail, flaps, & ailerons
> are done; working on the wings
> http://www.mykitlog.com/N47TP/
--------
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| Subject: | Re: unrolling the canopy |
Oh yes, it gets very hot in parts of Australia, I should know, I've seen Mad
Max 16 times !!!!
Roger
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[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
jaybannist@cs.com
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: unrolling the canopy
WOW ! 41 degC. That's 106 degF. It gets that hot here in Dallas, but I
had no idea it got that hot in Sydney.
Jay in Dallas
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-----Original Message-----
From: chris Sinfield <chris_sinfield@yahoo.com.au>
Sent: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 6:59 pm
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: unrolling the canopy
<chris_sinfield@yahoo.com.au>
Thanks.everyone..
today in the shade its 41 deg C. here in Sydney.. I will unwrap my canopy in
the
shade..
Chris..
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| Subject: | Re: unrolling the canopy |
I guess that just shows ya how good Zeniths are, if your willing to pay
shipping all the way to Australia to get parts... me, I live about 3 hours
from the Zenith factory in Mexico, Missouri ,,,ya I know, green with
jealousy you must all be right now down under !!!
Gooday mates
( ya, I also watched crocodile Dundee 14 times...)
Roger
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From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Thruster87
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 6:08 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: unrolling the canopy
I keep forgetting some countries still use the OLD Imperial scale [For
Queen/KING and Country].The issue should have been finalized back at the
Boston Tea party Times and they drive on the wrong side of the street to
boot as well !!!!!!!!! So whose NUTS? OH I forgot already!!!!
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| Subject: | Unrolling the canopy |
> A related thing that I learned while working with my canopy --
> If you have protective canopy film that is difficult to remove, or excess
> rubber trim adhesive (before it fully cures) on your canopy, isopropyl
> alcohol dry gas on a very soft cotton rag will remove it with no effect on
> the plastic canopy.
>
> Lynn 601 XL / Corvair Flight Testing
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| Subject: | Possible almost finished XL for sale |
For a variety of reasons, looks like I may want to put my almost finished 6
01XL up for sale. It's located in Southern California, and all I want to do
is recover some of the money I've spent on it...not looking to profit. The
fuselage is mostly done, instrument panel in place (steam gauges w/nav/VOR
radio), Jabiru 3300 installed, prop partly installed. Actually, the only m
ajor things left to do are balance the control surfaces, finish mounting th
e prop/spinner, finish wiring the electrical system, and paint it. Not far
from flying.
To buy the major components now, you're looking at:
XL kit (not quick-build): $16,000
Jab 3300 engine: $16,500
FWF kit:- $3,500
Instruments, radios, etc: $3,000
Total parts:- $39,000
To sell mine, the first $30K gets the whole thing. Serious inquiries only p
lease; pics available. You would need to make your own arrangements to pick
it up.
Mike Fortunato
rsq2424@yahoo.com
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