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1. 05:40 AM - Re: Cell phones and flying ------- Wire stripper (Edward Moody II)
2. 07:21 AM - FW: XL Canopy on 601 HD (Jeff Davidson)
3. 03:19 PM - Flap Control Tuibes (Peter W Johnson)
4. 03:36 PM - Re: Flap Control Tuibes (jaybannist@cs.com)
5. 03:37 PM - Motivational Video (cookwithgas)
6. 04:23 PM - Re: Motivational Video (leinad)
7. 04:26 PM - Re: Motivational Video (Gig Giacona)
8. 04:33 PM - Re: Re: Motivational Video (Jay Maynard)
9. 04:45 PM - Re: Re: Motivational Video (Ronald Steele)
10. 05:47 PM - Re: Flap Control Tuibes (dingfelder)
11. 06:17 PM - Re: Flap Control Tuibes (Juan Vega)
12. 06:17 PM - Re: Flap Control Tuibes (Juan Vega)
13. 10:40 PM - Re: Flap Control Tuibes (Afterfxllc@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: Cell phones and flying ------- Wire stripper |
If you are using tefzel shielded wire, here's my suggestion. Don't try
to cut through the outer insulation to the wire underneath. Instead, use
a very sharp disposable blade (I use a #25 blade in a Bard Parker lab
knife but any new exacto blade would probably work as well) to score the
insulation. The sharp blade will easily cut into the tefzel and allow
you to make a ring all the way around the insulation. Stop at that point
and bend the wire to finish cracking the insulation jacket open. Trial
and error will train you to cut just deep enough to allow you to crack
open the jacket. If you are grounding the shield, you will need to
unbraid it at that point. I use the pointed end of a soldering tool for
that. When I needed two of them at one point, I made the second one out
of a rivet stem driven into the end of a small dowel then sharpened the
end of the stem. The point can be used to tease apart the fine strands
of the shield then the strands can be twisted together for crimping /
splicing.
I like to trail the shield wires back away from the other conductors and
slip a short heat shrink over them to help segregate them from the other
wires. That requires that you do the shield splice first so that the
heat shrink can slide on from the free end. Like everything else you
have to "walk it through" in your mind first to work out the order in
which to proceed.
Hope that helps,
Ed
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| Subject: | FW: XL Canopy on 601 HD |
>
>Time: 01:40:20 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: XL Canopy on 601HD From:
>"chris Sinfield" <chris_sinfield@yahoo.com.au> Can someone who has done
>this please contact PM me as I have a guy with a HD that wants to
>convert and the search Archives dont really show up much except
>jeffrey_davidson email address which bounces Chris. Do not archive
>
>Chris,
> I'm not sure why my personal email address is bouncing. I'll look
>into it. Just send it to the list for now. I can't post from my work email.
> Jeff Davidson
>
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| Subject: | Flap Control Tuibes |
Hi Guys,
I am presently fitting the flap motor and control tubes. What is the angle
of the flap control tube (6B19-1 and 2) relative to the flap control arm
(6B19-3)? I need to drill the holes for the bolts that hold all three pieces
together.
I don't have the wings built yet so is it worth waiting until the wings and
flaps are in place before drilling anything?
Cheers
Peter
601 XL
Wonthaggi Australia
http://zodiac.cpc-world.com <http://zodiac.cpc-world.com/>
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| Subject: | Re: Flap Control Tuibes |
Peter,
I strongly suggest waiting to drill and bolt the flap control arm to the tor
que tubes until you have the wings and flaps in place. Because the geometry
of the flap control system is so complex, even a small error in this connect
ion has major consequences.=C2- I am speaking from experience.=C2- Once
this connection is drilled and bolted, your options for correction are very
limited.=C2- Best to wait.
Jay in Dallas
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter W Johnson <vk3eka@bigpond.net.au>
Sent: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 5:17 pm
Subject: Zenith-List: Flap Control Tuibes
Hi Guys,
=C2-
I am presently fitting the flap motor and control tubes. What is the angle o
f the flap control tube (6B19-1 and 2) relative to the flap control arm (6B1
9-3)? I need to drill the holes for the bolts that hold all three pieces tog
ether.
=C2-
I don=99t have the wings built yet so is it worth waiting until the wi
ngs and flaps are in place before drilling anything?
=C2-
Cheers
=C2-
Peter
601 XL
Wonthaggi Australia
http://zodiac.cpc-world.com
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| Subject: | Motivational Video |
This morning my wife asked me to skip work and take her flying. Since she almost
NEVER asks me to go flying I jumped at the offer. It was really cold and starting
to snow but we drove out to the airport anyway. The clouds were high
and the day was supposed to get better so we flew to York, Nebraska for lunch.
We took the courtesy car into town and had a great lunch, then flew back in
warmer weather and sunshine. It was a great day!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hDT-H91FG8
Building was fun but flying is better.
Scott Laughlin
www.cooknwithgas.com
601XL/Corvair
120 hours
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=223614#223614
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| Subject: | Re: Motivational Video |
Scott,
Thankd for posting!
Dan Dempsey
601xl/corvair plans builder
cookwithgas wrote:
> This morning my wife asked me to skip work and take her flying. Since she almost
NEVER asks me to go flying I jumped at the offer. It was really cold and
starting to snow but we drove out to the airport anyway. The clouds were high
and the day was supposed to get better so we flew to York, Nebraska for lunch.
We took the courtesy car into town and had a great lunch, then flew back in
warmer weather and sunshine. It was a great day!
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hDT-H91FG8
>
> Building was fun but flying is better.
>
> Scott Laughlin
> www.cooknwithgas.com
> 601XL/Corvair
> 120 hours
--------
Scratch building XL with Corvair Engine
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| Subject: | Re: Motivational Video |
Another great video...
You might want to work on landing in the center of the runway though. ;)
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W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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| Subject: | Re: Motivational Video |
On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 04:25:30PM -0800, Gig Giacona wrote:
> You might want to work on landing in the center of the runway though. ;)
Centerline? What centerline?
--
Jay Maynard, K5ZC, PP-ASEL, AGI http://www.conmicro.com
http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net
Fairmont, MN (KFRM) (Yes, that's me!)
AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC http://www.tronguy.net/N55ZC.shtml
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| Subject: | Re: Motivational Video |
Instructor: Ok, what was the problem with that landing?
Me: I wasn't on the centerline.
Instructor: And why was that?
Me: (Pick of the the dozen or so reasons we all know)
Ron
DO NOT ARCHIVE
On Jan 8, 2009, at 7:29 PM, Jay Maynard wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 04:25:30PM -0800, Gig Giacona wrote:
>> You might want to work on landing in the center of the runway
>> though. ;)
>
> Centerline? What centerline?
> --
> Jay Maynard, K5ZC, PP-ASEL, AGI http://www.conmicro.com
> http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net
> Fairmont, MN (KFRM) (Yes, that's me!)
> AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC http://www.tronguy.net/N55ZC.shtml
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Flap Control Tuibes |
Peter,
I basically agree with Jay. I chose to bolt the left side at
initial assembly because it is less accessable later, but I first worked
out the geometry very carefully so I could maximize flap travel. (with
much effort, I finally achieved 24 deg., which works well) I fastened
the other tube with one small temporary rivit just to keep it in place.
This gives you the opportunity to adjust the flaps for exact symmetry
after the wings are attached. After this step, I bolted the right tube.
Lynn
Corry, PA 601XL / Corvair Testing
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| Subject: | Re: Flap Control Tuibes |
Pete call me and I can walk you through the flap set up. 813-784-7312. I am flying
in the moring to Miami, but avaialable after 10am.
Juan
-----Original Message-----
>From: Peter W Johnson <vk3eka@bigpond.net.au>
>Sent: Jan 8, 2009 6:17 PM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com, zenith601-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Zenith-List: Flap Control Tuibes
>
>Hi Guys,
>
>I am presently fitting the flap motor and control tubes. What is the angle
>of the flap control tube (6B19-1 and 2) relative to the flap control arm
>(6B19-3)? I need to drill the holes for the bolts that hold all three pieces
>together.
>
>I don't have the wings built yet so is it worth waiting until the wings and
>flaps are in place before drilling anything?
>
>Cheers
>
>Peter
>601 XL
>Wonthaggi Australia
>http://zodiac.cpc-world.com <http://zodiac.cpc-world.com/>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Flap Control Tuibes |
Do not drill flap control tubes till last. INstall the wings then fit the flaps
in the setting as fully retracted. Just cleco do not rivet. use a piece of
wood to hold them all the way up in place up against the nylon stops.
Then with the tube essembled in place but not drilled, go under the plane and
scribe with a sharp metal object or a fine pen the three parts to the tube, left
tube, arm, and right tube. once all three are scribed. take the whole thing
apart and take the flaps off . Then go and drill the tubes and match the parts
together using the marks you scribed as referance. Make sure you you a vice
to hold each part staedy. Add oil to the drill point whiler you drill, it
helps the carving of the drill. reinstalled the drilled tubes in place in the
up position. Restall the flaps making sure to cleco them in place. SO now the
flaps are clecoed in place, the flap arms are assembled in the up position,
bolt the arm to the flap motor, bolt the screws in place and torque to 10lbs.
The motr in the up position shuold stop just 2 mm after the flap is in the
up position, this locks the flap. then push the flap button top bring the
flap down. the motor should stop when it hits the switch at the right distance,
which is in the plans.
Juan
-----Original Message-----
>From: dingfelder <ding@tbscc.com>
>Sent: Jan 8, 2009 8:45 PM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Flap Control Tuibes
>
>Peter,
> I basically agree with Jay. I chose to bolt the left side at initial
assembly because it is less accessable later, but I first worked out the geometry
very carefully so I could maximize flap travel. (with much effort, I finally
achieved 24 deg., which works well) I fastened the other tube with one
small temporary rivit just to keep it in place. This gives you the opportunity
to adjust the flaps for exact symmetry after the wings are attached. After this
step, I bolted the right tube.
>
Lynn
Corry, PA 601XL / Corvair Testing
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| Subject: | Re: Flap Control Tuibes |
Good lord Juan that's a lot more work than need be. All you have to do is
run the flap motor to the full up position make sure they are both even but
don't place anything under the flaps to hold them up because the nylon will have
some play. Once you have one side where you want it drill a 3/32 hole in the
edge of the tube and cleco into place. Then adjust the other flap where you
want it and drill a 3/32 hole in the other side of the tube and cleco that
side as well. Once you are satisfied with the flaps run them up and down a few
times just to be sure they will sit where you want them. Once you are
satisfied drill and bolt each side.
One note... be sure to think ahead as to where the bolt will travel as the
tube turns so it won't hit anything.
Jeff Garrett
Louisville Ky.
601XL N962T Aerolite Corvair 90%
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Do not drill flap control tubes till last. INstall the wings then fit the
flaps in the setting as fully retracted. Just cleco do not rivet. use a piece
of wood to hold them all the way up in place up against the nylon stops.
Then with the tube essembled in place but not drilled, go under the plane
and scribe with a sharp metal object or a fine pen the three parts to the
tube, left tube, arm, and right tube. once all three are scribed. take the
whole thing apart and take the flaps off . Then go and drill the tubes and
match the parts together using the marks you scribed as referance. Make sure
you
you a vice to hold each part staedy. Add oil to the drill point whiler you
drill, it helps the carving of the drill. reinstalled the drilled tubes in
place in the up position. Restall the flaps making sure to cleco them in
place. SO now the flaps are clecoed in place, the flap arms are assembled in
the
up position, bolt the arm to the flap motor, bolt the screws in place and
torque to 10lbs. The motr in the up position shuold stop just 2 mm after
the flap is in the up position, this locks the flap. then push the flap
button top bring the flap down. the motor should stop when it hits the s!
witch at the right distance, which is in the plans.
Juan
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