---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 01/15/09: 15 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:09 AM - Re: To all that have been inspected... (DaveG601XL) 2. 04:59 AM - Jeff Paris. Paint scheme. (Geoff Heap) 3. 06:19 AM - Re: To all that have been inspected... (John Davis) 4. 09:28 AM - Full frontal... beauty? (vayuwings) 5. 09:56 AM - Re: Full frontal... beauty? (jaybannist@cs.com) 6. 10:16 AM - Re: Full frontal... beauty? (cookwithgas) 7. 10:43 AM - Re: Re: Full frontal... beauty? (jaybannist@cs.com) 8. 12:18 PM - Re: Full frontal... beauty? (annken100) 9. 12:42 PM - Re: Full frontal... beauty? (William Dominguez) 10. 12:57 PM - Re: Full frontal... beauty? (Gig Giacona) 11. 01:46 PM - Memory Foam (Beckman, Rick) 12. 03:54 PM - Re: Full frontal... beauty? (vayuwings) 13. 04:34 PM - Re: Full frontal... beauty? (kmccune) 14. 04:48 PM - Re: Full frontal... beauty? (leinad) 15. 05:36 PM - Re: Memory Foam (PatrickW) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:09:22 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: To all that have been inspected... From: "DaveG601XL" I have the Cincinnati FSDO close by so I hand carried my paperwork there. The FAA inspector called me about two hours later and we set up an inspection date for the next week. I was handed my official 8130-7 Special Airworthiness Certificate at the end of the inspection. Cost = $0 It was the cheapest part of my whole project! Good luck, -------- David Gallagher 601 XL/Jabiru 3300 First flight 7/24/08 Phase I flight test complete 10/16/08 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=224876#224876 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:59:12 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Jeff Paris. Paint scheme. From: "Geoff Heap" Hi Jeff Jeff your plane is gorgeous and I think it's mainly because of the color scheme. Ive toyed with the idea of grey for my 701 but wasnt sure it would look all that good. Now I know. The orange really sets it off. I'd like to consider this further. Could you give me the paint specsManufacturer. Type. Colors. It's now my dual screens ScreensaverYou're famous..Geoff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=224877#224877 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:19:38 AM PST US From: John Davis Subject: Re: Zenith-List: To all that have been inspected... Gig, Look at the EAA list of DARS at http://members.eaa.org/home/govt/help/ab_dar.asp. Mine was done by an EAA DAR for only his expenses (he had a drive a ways to get to me). Good Luck, John Gig Giacona wrote: > > If you have had your airworthiness inspection done what did you pay for he DAR? > > -------- > W.R. "Gig" Giacona > 601XL Under Construction > See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=224783#224783 > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:28:49 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Full frontal... beauty? From: "vayuwings" Fellow builders - As I am considering the Corvair for my powerplant, along with the E-81 or O-200, I am faced with a personal challenge that appears I would have to live with a long time with the Corvair that maybe someone could help me with. Tho I give respect to other Corvair drivers that maybe, just maybe, they feel 'beauty is in the eye of the beholder' - and I also feel the same as Will Rogers when he said ' I never met an airplane - er, man, I didn't like' yet I wonder, does anyone use a different cowling for the Corvair other than the one I see used in all the pics I've seen? Or should I resign myself every time I pull the plane out of my hangar hopefully in the future to hearing Lyle Lovett's song 'She was Ugly from the Front' playing in my head?....... [Shocked] Just wondering... Dave -XL :) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=224928#224928 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:56:59 AM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Full frontal... beauty? From: jaybannist@cs.com Dave, I have the "usual" cowling for the Corvair and my 601XL.? Are you saying my airplane is UGLY ?? We're going to have to take this one outside to avoid breaking things inside !!? ( ;>) Jay in Dallas Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: vayuwings Sent: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 11:26 am Subject: Zenith-List: Full frontal... beauty? Fellow builders - As I am considering the Corvair for my powerplant, along with the E-81 or O-200, I am faced with a personal challenge that appears I would have to live with a long time with the Corvair that maybe someone could help me with. Tho I give respect to other Corvair drivers that maybe, just maybe, they feel 'beauty is in the eye of the beholder' - and I also feel the same as Will Rogers when he said ' I never met an airplane - er, man, I didn't like' yet I wonder, does anyone use a different cowling for the Corvair other than the one I see used in all the pics I've seen? Or should I resign myself every time I pull the plane out of my hangar hopefully in the future to hearing Lyle Lovett's song 'She was Ugly from the Front' playing in my head?....... [Shocked] Just wondering... Dave -XL :) Read this topic online here: ________________________________________________________________________ Email message sent from CompuServe - visit us today at http://www.cs.com ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:16:10 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Full frontal... beauty? From: "cookwithgas" I think she is beautiful...... Scott Laughlin 601XL/Corvair 120 Hours www.cooknwithgas.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=224944#224944 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/beauty_953.jpg ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:43:34 AM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Full frontal... beauty? From: jaybannist@cs.com I agree !! Mine too !! Jay in Dallas Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: cookwithgas Sent: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 12:15 pm Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Full frontal... beauty? I think she is beautiful...... Scott Laughlin 601XL/Corvair 120 Hours www.cooknwithgas.com Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/beauty_953.jpg ________________________________________________________________________ Email message sent from CompuServe - visit us today at http://www.cs.com ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:18:36 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Full frontal... beauty? From: "annken100" Dave, If you don't like the looks of the usual corvair cowl, nothing says you can't design and build one yourself. I happen to like the looks of the William Wynne cowl. I decided to go with it simply because it is less work and will get me in the air faster. Another consideration is that you don't see the front of your plane when you're flying, so who cares how ugly or pretty it is. [Wink] Ken Pavlou -------- 601 XL / Corvair Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=224966#224966 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:42:20 PM PST US From: William Dominguez Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Full frontal... beauty? I haven't seen a different cowling in a Corvair 601 but if you decide to make your own design, you will have to consider a rear starter conversion like the KR guys do. The front starter conversion will give you less design freedom. William Dominguez Zodiac 601XL Plans Miami Florida http://www.geocities.com/bill_dom --- On Thu, 1/15/09, vayuwings wrote: From: vayuwings Subject: Zenith-List: Full frontal... beauty? Fellow builders - As I am considering the Corvair for my powerplant, along with the E-81 or O-200, I am faced with a personal challenge that appears I would have to live with a long time with the Corvair that maybe someone could help me with. Tho I give respect to other Corvair drivers that maybe, just maybe, they feel 'beauty is in the eye of the beholder' - and I also feel the same as Will Rogers when he said ' I never met an airplane - er, man, I didn't like' yet I wonder, does anyone use a different cowling for the Corvair other than the one I see used in all the pics I've seen? Or should I resign myself every time I pull the plane out of my hangar hopefully in the future to hearing Lyle Lovett's song 'She was Ugly from the Front' playing in my head?....... [Shocked] Just wondering... Dave -XL :) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=224928#224928 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 12:57:22 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Full frontal... beauty? From: "Gig Giacona" Beauty is indeed in the eye of the beholder but if you don't think the WW Corvair cowl look better than all the other you should have your eyes ripped out...... JUST KIDDING. A lot goes into the design of a nosebowl and cowling or at least it should. The WW design has shown it will keep the engine cool and has about the minimum drag you can have in the front of a 601. Don't forget. If you design your own cowling or use a cowling that was designed for another engine you are going to have to design your own baffle system and that would suck. Add to that the fact that you have easier and better access to more of the engine than just about any cowl I've seen on any plane certified or experimental and you have winner. That said, by the time you get to actually installing the it the last thing in the world you are going to want to do is design a nosebowl and cowling. -------- W.R. "Gig" Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=224974#224974 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 01:46:05 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Memory Foam From: "Beckman, Rick" Hi, List, A few weeks ago, someone wanted to know where to get seat foam. Some things came up at home that I had to attend to and I am just now getting back with the information. It took me a couple of weeks to find the web address for buying 1" memory foam. The place is in Wichita, KS. Go to their web site: www.buckleyind.com I bought three pieces 4'x4'x1" for about fifty bucks per. I got one of each density: soft, medium and firm. This was cheaper than ACS or Wicks. Happy Building! God Bless!! Rick Beckman Zodie Rocket XL 52EB Midwest Mudworks 729 MSL and sinking Do Archive. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 03:54:39 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Full frontal... beauty? From: "vayuwings" Well.... thanks to all who responded- whether to my question or not - In answer to that question if there are any other cowlings being used for the many 601's out there I hear that use a Corvair, I'll assume there probably are not any, other than the WW one. I wasn't looking to design an original, and I am aware of the difficulty and considerations needed to build one as much as I can be without ever having built one, I just wanted to see if there might be an alternative to the popular one that I could use. Guess I shouldn't have used Lyle's song to illustrate my reason for an alternative - my apologies to the 'cowling sensitive' - but I couldn't resist!....sorry 'bout that. Despite being offered to have my eyes gouged out, taken out back and taught a lesson, or listen to repetitive insistance on how beautiful she is!, Istillfeelsheisbuttuglybutthatsjustmyopinionsopleaseenjoyyourcowling!!! Thanks again everybody! Dave Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=224992#224992 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 04:34:49 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Full frontal... beauty? From: "kmccune" I haven't checked dimensions because I like the WW cowl 8) But couldn't you use one of the ones for a Continental or some other because engine? do not archive kevin -------- Mark Twain: Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=224996#224996 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 04:48:21 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Full frontal... beauty? From: "leinad" Dave, You could do like I'm planning on doing and make your own. If you're a member of EAA they have a nice how too in their builder's articals. Dan vayuwings wrote: > Fellow builders - As I am considering the Corvair for my powerplant, along with the E-81 or O-200, I am faced with a personal challenge that appears I would have to live with a long time with the Corvair that maybe someone could help me with. > Tho I give respect to other Corvair drivers that maybe, just maybe, they feel 'beauty is in the eye of the beholder' - and I also feel the same as Will Rogers when he said ' I never met an airplane - er, man, I didn't like' yet I wonder, does anyone use a different cowling for the Corvair other than the one I see used in all the pics I've seen? > Or should I resign myself every time I pull the plane out of my hangar hopefully in the future to hearing Lyle Lovett's song 'She was Ugly from the Front' playing in my head?....... :shock: > > Just wondering... > Dave -XL > > :) -------- Scratch building XL with Corvair Engine Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=224999#224999 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 05:36:29 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Memory Foam From: "PatrickW" Thanks for the tip. For guys like me who are not Chemical Engineers, what stuff on the Buckley Products website corresponds to the pink/green/blue foam that we are interested in...? 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