---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 01/22/09: 23 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:00 AM - Re: Re: Leaky Prosealed Tank (Afterfxllc@aol.com) 2. 05:12 AM - Gauges (4RCSIMMONS@comcast.net (Rich Simmons)) 3. 05:17 AM - Re: Re: Leaky Prosealed Tank (Roger & Lina Hill) 4. 05:20 AM - Re: Gauges (jaybannist@cs.com) 5. 05:57 AM - Re: Leaky Prosealed Tank (Roger Lee) 6. 07:23 AM - Re: Gauges (macleod@eagle.ca) 7. 09:11 AM - Re: Re: Leaky Prosealed Tank (Gary Gower) 8. 12:22 PM - CH601 XL Aileron Push Rods. (japhillipsga@aol.com) 9. 01:09 PM - Re: Gauges (Carlos Sa) 10. 01:12 PM - Re: CH601 XL Aileron Push Rods. (Trevor Jennings) 11. 01:26 PM - Re: CH601 XL Aileron Push Rods. (japhillipsga@aol.com) 12. 01:57 PM - Re: CH601 XL Aileron Push Rods. (Terry Phillips) 13. 02:13 PM - Re: CH601 XL Aileron Push Rods. (Gig Giacona) 14. 02:53 PM - Re: CH601 XL Aileron Push Rods. (LarryMcFarland) 15. 04:02 PM - Re: CH601 XL Aileron Push Rods. (ZodieRocket) 16. 05:06 PM - Wing main spars serials (pavel569) 17. 05:06 PM - EAA's Experimenter, back again! (Patrick Panzera) 18. 05:37 PM - Re: Wing main spars serials (T. Graziano) 19. 05:51 PM - Re: Wing main spars serials (Terry Phillips) 20. 05:56 PM - Re: Ground block (Bill Naumuk) 21. 06:08 PM - Re: Wing main spars serials (pavel569) 22. 07:46 PM - Re: EAA's Experimenter, back again! (leinad) 23. 10:24 PM - Re: Spinners (John Smith) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:00:46 AM PST US From: Afterfxllc@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Leaky Prosealed Tank Do not slosh your tanks I have seen some RV's that have sloshed tanks and the slosh WILL flake over time. I saw the pics of the tanks and don't see much pro seal on the outside. I would cover every rivet and not want to see any seams from the outside. More than likely you are leaking from a rivet and you need to cover them. Jeff Piece of cake. I pulled my wing on a Flight Design and poured it in rotated the wing (left and right, up and down on the ends) and set it on a couple of sawhorses. Done. I sloshed it twice to be sure. Better than having a leak or even better, not having to bother to hunt for one. It's used world wide for sealing all kinds of tanks. **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! cemailfooterNO62) ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:12:51 AM PST US From: 4RCSIMMONS@comcast.net (Rich Simmons) Subject: Zenith-List: Gauges List, Anybody out there use the U.M.A gauges? Are there any who have bad success with these? Good success? Opinion time!! However, do not archive!! -- Thanks, Rich Simmons 601 xl Murfreesboro, TN ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:17:00 AM PST US From: "Roger & Lina Hill" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: Leaky Prosealed Tank Ya, I built a couple of RV tanks, and the word is that if you don't clean the tanks of all oils and other contaminates first, the slosh may come off later and clog your fuel filter and cause the engine to stop.. I don't think Vans recommends sloshing anymore because of the problems. Proseal will never come off, even if you want it to later (don't ask me how I know) Roger _____ From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Afterfxllc@aol.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 3:57 AM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Leaky Prosealed Tank Do not slosh your tanks I have seen some RV's that have sloshed tanks and the slosh WILL flake over time. I saw the pics of the tanks and don't see much pro seal on the outside. I would cover every rivet and not want to see any seams from the outside. More than likely you are leaking from a rivet and you need to cover them. Jeff Piece of cake. I pulled my wing on a Flight Design and poured it in rotated the wing (left and right, up and down on the ends) and set it on a couple of sawhorses. Done. I sloshed it twice to be sure. Better than having a leak or even better, not having to bother to hunt for one. It's used world wide for sealing all kinds of tanks. _____ A Good Credit Score is 7001028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=6680 72%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=DecemailfooterNO62"> See yours in just 2 easy steps! ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:20:23 AM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Gauges From: jaybannist@cs.com Rich, I have a UMA airspeed indicator and as far as I can tell, it works OK. Jay Bannister Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: Rich Simmons <4RCSIMMONS@comcast.net> Sent: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 7:10 am Subject: Zenith-List: Gauges List, Anybody out there use the U.M.A gauges? Are there any who have bad success with these? Good success? Opinion time!! However, do not archive!! -- Thanks, Rich Simmons 601 xl Murfreesboro, TN ________________________________________________________________________ Email message sent from CompuServe - visit us today at http://www.cs.com ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:57:42 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Leaky Prosealed Tank From: "Roger Lee" Kreem Weiss will not flake or come off if you do it right and it's just too easy to do it right. If you could look into a Flight Design tank near where you live, you would see why it doesn't flake. It becomes the tank. Hard as a rock. Use Kreem Weiss not some other cheaper brand. -------- Roger Lee Tucson, Az. Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated Rotax Service Center 520-574-1080 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=226149#226149 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:23:16 AM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Gauges From: macleod@eagle.ca Rich: Used UMA tach (Rotax), oil pressure, oil temp, coolant temp, and VSI for 200 hours without problems. Of interest was the fact that when I went to get my Chinese built altimeter calibrated to my transponder encoder the technician gave it a 50% chance of passing. It did pass but just (was sticky on pressure increases). Next time I would spend the money to get a quality American instrument (ie UMA). Mike (who does not live in the US) macleod@eagle.ca do not archive --------------------------------------- > > Anybody out there use the U.M.A gauges? Are there any who have bad success > with these? Good success? > > Opinion time!! > > However, do not archive!! > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:11:07 AM PST US From: Gary Gower Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Leaky Prosealed Tank One word of caution,- get the fingerscreen off the tank and plug the outl et before starting the procedure,-with the fingerscreen sealed, no gas wi ll com out. - Saludos Gary Gower. --- On Wed, 1/21/09, Roger Lee wrote: From: Roger Lee Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Leaky Prosealed Tank Piece of cake. I pulled my wing on a Flight Design and poured it in rotated the wing (left and right, up and down on the ends) and set it on a couple of sawhorses. Done. I sloshed it twice to be sure. Better than having a leak or even better, not having to bother to hunt for one. It's used world wide for sealing all kinds of tanks. -------- Roger Lee Tucson, Az. Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated Rotax Service Center 520-574-1080 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=226129#226129 =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:22:25 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: CH601 XL Aileron Push Rods. From: japhillipsga@aol.com Hello Fellow 601 Builders and Flyers, I have finished the picture/text description of converting my XL to push/pull rods. How can I post it so those that care to see it may? Its about 5 pages long with photos and text. Bill of Georgia Email message sent from CompuServe - visit us today at http://www.cs.com ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 01:09:13 PM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Gauges From: Carlos Sa the problem these days is to find goods *not *manufactured in China... Just look at the labels on things around you, specially if bought in the past couple of years. Carlos CH601-HD, plans tail feathers and wings done, waiting for landing gear and other parts from ZAC 2009/1/22 > > Rich: > > Used UMA tach (Rotax), oil pressure, oil temp, coolant temp, and VSI for > 200 hours without problems. > > Of interest was the fact that when I went to get my Chinese built > altimeter calibrated to my transponder encoder the technician gave it a > 50% chance of passing. It did pass but just (was sticky on pressure > increases). Next time I would spend the money to get a quality American > instrument (ie UMA). > > Mike (who does not live in the US) > macleod@eagle.ca > do not archive ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 01:12:05 PM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith-List: CH601 XL Aileron Push Rods. From: Trevor Jennings You can save it as a PDF and post it as an attachment perhaps. - Trevor On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 3:15 PM, wrote: > > > Hello Fellow 601 Builders and Flyers, I have finished the picture/text > description of converting my XL to push/pull rods. > > How can I post it so those that care to see it may? Its about 5 pages long > with photos and text. Bill of Georgia > > ________________________________ > Email message sent from CompuServe - visit us today at http://www.cs.com > > > ________________________________ > Which stars will make the biggest headlines in 2009? Get Hollywood news, > celebrity photos and more with the PopEater Toolbar. > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 01:26:28 PM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith-List: CH601 XL Aileron Push Rods. From: japhillipsga@aol.com Trevor, can you talk me through how to get it out of the computer and onto the e-mail ? If so call me on my cell 478-731-9678.? I could post it as a story on the ch601.org site if someone can explain how. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Trevor Jennings Sent: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 4:09 pm Subject: Re: Zenith-List: CH601 XL Aileron Push Rods. You can save it as a PDF and post it as an attachment perhaps. - Trevor On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 3:15 PM, wrote: > > > Hello Fellow 601 Builders and Flyers, I have finished the picture/text > description of converting my XL to push/pull rods. > > How can I post it so those that care to see it may? Its about 5 pages long > with photos and text. Bill of Georgia > > ________________________________ > Email message sent from CompuServe - visit us today at http://www.cs.com > > > ________________________________ > Which stars will make the biggest headlines in 2009? Get Hollywood news, > celebrity photos and more with the PopEater Toolbar. > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 01:57:31 PM PST US From: Terry Phillips Subject: Re: Zenith-List: CH601 XL Aileron Push Rods. PDF is good. If you don't already have it, Google PDF Creator which is free and works great. It might be better to submit it to the Matronics Zenith-List Photoshare. See http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/ for instructions. Alternatively, submit it to CH601.org http://www.ch601.org/default.htm For me, these locations are more easily searched than the Matronics archives. Terry At 04:09 PM 1/22/2009 -0500, you wrote: > >You can save it as a PDF and post it as an attachment perhaps. > > - Trevor > > >On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 3:15 PM, wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello Fellow 601 Builders and Flyers, I have finished the picture/text > > description of converting my XL to push/pull rods. > > > > How can I post it so those that care to see it may? Its about 5 pages long > > with photos and text. Bill of Georgia Terry Phillips ZBAGer ttp44~at~rkymtn.net Corvallis MT 601XL/Jab 3300 s .. l .. o .. o .. w build kit - Tail, flaps, & ailerons are done; working on the wings http://www.mykitlog.com/N47TP/ ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 02:13:38 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: CH601 XL Aileron Push Rods. From: "Gig Giacona" Bill, If you email it to me I will be happy to put it all in a pdf for you. -------- W.R. "Gig" Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=226236#226236 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 02:53:56 PM PST US From: LarryMcFarland Subject: Re: Zenith-List: CH601 XL Aileron Push Rods. Bill, I'd recommend you email the package to 601.org as one of the variations that can be done on an XL. Then reference the link. Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com do not archive aphillipsga@aol.com wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Hello Fellow 601 Builders and Flyers, I have finished the picture/text > description of converting my XL to push/pull rods. > How can I post it so those that care to see it may? Its about 5 pages long with photos and text. Bill of Georgia ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 04:02:04 PM PST US From: "ZodieRocket" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: CH601 XL Aileron Push Rods. Bill send it to me for ch601.com Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario Zodiac CH650 C-GOXL, CH701 Rotax 912, STOL CH750 Just started www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com/ www.Osprey2.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of japhillipsga@aol.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 3:16 PM Subject: Zenith-List: CH601 XL Aileron Push Rods. Hello Fellow 601 Builders and Flyers, I have finished the picture/text description of converting my XL to push/pull rods. How can I post it so those that care to see it may? Its about 5 pages long with photos and text. Bill of Georgia _____ Email message sent from CompuServe - visit us today at http://www.cs.com _____ Which stars will make the biggest headlines in 2009? Get Hollywood news, celebrity photos and more with the PopEater Toolbar. ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 05:06:23 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Wing main spars serials From: "pavel569" Today I was about to start working on the center section of main spar. I've unpacked it (now I know, I should do it when itemizing the kit - I've just checked the presence of the spar) and I've realized that the serial numbers don't match. My wing spars # are identical but different from the center section. I've already emailed ZAC about it. Do you, anyone, have the same experience? -------- Pavel CA Zodiac XL N581PM (Reserved) Stratus Subaru EA-81 Tail, flaps, ailerons, wings done, fuselage is on the table .... Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=226262#226262 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 05:06:25 PM PST US From: "Patrick Panzera" (by way of Terry Phillips ) Subject: Zenith-List: EAA's Experimenter, back again! Hey Gang! In an effort to put the E back into EAA, a new offering was just released. EXPERIMENTER has been resurrected in electronic format! http://eaa.org/experimenter/issues/0901.html The goal here is to bring back the hard-core, hands-on experimental aviation that we all miss. There won't be stories about $20k paint jobs, $75k certified engines, full leather interiors and all those hired-gun aircraft that we've all grown tired of seeing in print. One-of-a-kind projects, plans-built, modifications, improvements, successes and failures, all the stuff we need to see in print to fulfill the LEARN aspect of the "Learn, Build, Fly" mantra of the past. Paul P is taking an active role in this as he's always been a hard- core advocate of grass-roots experimental aviation. So I encourage each and every one of you reading this to click the link above and see the effort being made. Read through the entire work and PLEASE respond to the survey at the bottom of the page. I GUARANTEE you that all eyes and ears are on this effort and your comments WILL be read and learned from by the editorial staff at EAA. You will not be wasting your time. And PLEASE pass this note along to every e-mail group you belong to and everyone in your address book who might be even remotely interested. This is the best chance we've had in like, forever, to be honestly heard by EAA. A lot of work went into the first issue and they need to know if they are on the right track or not. I believe that your comments could potentially reshape all the EAA publications in the future. Thank you!!! Sincerely, Patrick Panzera. Editor@ContactMagazine.com I apologize if you got this more than once, it just means that you and I are on the same multiple e-mail groups. ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 05:37:12 PM PST US From: "T. Graziano" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Wing main spars serials Pavel, I recall some question about the matching of S/Ns of my spars/center spar assemblies with my kit and emailed Zenith. Reply was that they were OK. (I believe they use precision tooling to match drill/ream the attach holes). No problem in assembly; however, for peace of mind you might want to line up the three pieces on the floor and make sure that the "matched" holes do align. Be careful not to scratch/gouge/mar these critical 12 holes. Tony Graziano xl/Jab3300; N493TG; 463 hrs. ----- Original Message ----- From: "pavel569" Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 7:00 PM Subject: Zenith-List: Wing main spars serials > > Today I was about to start working on the center section of main spar. > I've unpacked it (now I know, I should do it when itemizing the kit - I've > just checked the presence of the spar) and I've realized that the serial > numbers don't match. My wing spars # are identical but different from the > center section. I've already emailed ZAC about it. Do you, anyone, have > the same experience? > > -------- > Pavel > CA > Zodiac XL N581PM (Reserved) > Stratus Subaru EA-81 > Tail, flaps, ailerons, wings done, fuselage is on the table .... > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=226262#226262 > > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 05:51:10 PM PST US From: Terry Phillips Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Wing main spars serials Interesting, Pavel. Mine are numbered: R: 15144-13 L: 15144-13 C: 15145-13 I have checked the attach bolt holes for diameter--they are fine. But I have not checked them for alignment. As long as they line up, is would say that there is no problem. Terry At 05:00 PM 1/22/2009 -0800, you wrote: >Today I was about to start working on the center section of main spar. >I've unpacked it (now I know, I should do it when itemizing the kit - I've >just checked the presence of the spar) and I've realized that the serial >numbers don't match. My wing spars # are identical but different from the >center section. I've already emailed ZAC about it. Do you, anyone, have >the same experience? > >-------- >Pavel Terry Phillips ZBAGer ttp44~at~rkymtn.net Corvallis MT 601XL/Jab 3300 s .. l .. o .. o .. w build kit - Tail, flaps, & ailerons are done; working on the wings http://www.mykitlog.com/N47TP/ ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 05:56:03 PM PST US From: "Bill Naumuk" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Ground block Jerry- Everything's a tradeoff. I guarantee you'll find something you don't like about the way you set your project up, and I'll do the same. Oh, well, we'll get it right next time! Bill do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 8:14 PM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Ground block > > I was worried about the same thing but I've tried to kick the firewall > while sitting in the plane and have not been able to. My legs won't reach > and I'm 6 ft tall. So I went ahead and installed it this way. I also > thought about the method in your previous method but decided to do it this > way. After all these are experimentals and we are learninig righte. > Jerry > > > On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 6:11 PM , Bill Naumuk wrote: > >> >> Jerry- >> That's exactly what I was going to do originally. What really got me >> thinking was watching the HomebuiltHelp Glass Panel DVD I got for my last >> Matronics donation. > > > ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 06:08:48 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Wing main spars serials From: "pavel569" Terry Phillips wrote: > > Mine are numbered: > R: 15144-13 > L: 15144-13 > C: 15145-13 > It seems that those numbers are matching: R: 15828-4 L: 15828-4 C: 15829-4 I was worried because when I checked the packing list, the number for center section wasn't there. I guess it will be fine. -------- Pavel CA Zodiac XL N581PM (Reserved) Stratus Subaru EA-81 Tail, flaps, ailerons, wings done, fuselage is on the table .... Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=226274#226274 ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 07:46:29 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: EAA's Experimenter, back again! From: "leinad" Hey wait just a minute. I have a full leather interior, but I cut and stitched every stitch with my own hands! http://daniel.dempseyfamily.us/zodiac/interior/index.html But thanks for the heads up Pat. Dan Dempsey [quote="panzera(at)experimental-a"]Hey Gang! In an effort to put the E back into EAA, a new offering was just released. EXPERIMENTER has been resurrected in electronic format! http://eaa.org/experimenter/issues/0901.html (http://eaa.org/experimenter/issues/0901.html) The goal here is to bring back the hard-core, hands-on experimental aviation that we all miss. There won't be stories about $20k paint jobs, $75k certified engines, full leather interiors and all those hired-gun aircraft that we've all grown tired of seeing in print. One-of-a-kind projects, plans-built, modifications, improvements, successes and failures, all the stuff we need to see in print to fulfill the LEARN aspect of the "Learn, Build, Fly" mantra of the past. Paul P is taking an active role in this as he's always been a hard- core advocate of grass-roots experimental aviation. So I encourage each and every one of you reading this to click the link above and see the effort being made. Read through the entire work and PLEASE respond to the survey at the bottom of the page. I GUARANTEE you that all eyes and ears are on this effort and your comments WILL be read and learned from by the editorial staff at EAA. You will not be wasting your time. And PLEASE pass this note along to every e-mail group you belong to and everyone in your address book who might be even remotely interested. This is the best chance we've had in like, forever, to be honestly heard by EAA. A lot of work went into the first issue and they need to know if they are on the right track or not. I believe that your comments could potentially reshape all the EAA publications in the future. Thank you!!! Sincerely, Patrick Panzera. Editor@ContactMagazine.com (Editor%40ContactMagazine.com) I apologize if you got this more than once, it just means that you and I are on the same multiple e-mail groups. > [b] -------- Scratch building XL with Corvair Engine Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=226288#226288 ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 10:24:35 PM PST US From: John Smith Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Spinners Jay,=0A=0AI also have Van's spinner FP-13 but the rear bulkhead bolt holes do not fit WW hub and the front bulkhead would not fit Warp Drive prop at a ll.- I emailed WW numerous times inquiring about the front crashplate/bul khead-but-he would not reply.- Can you post the bolt hole patterns an d how you got the front bulkhead to work?=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A___________________ _____________=0AFrom: "jaybannist@cs.com" =0ATo: zenith- list@matronics.com=0ASent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 5:43:40 PM=0ASubject: R e: Zenith-List: Spinners=0A=0A=0ADan,=0A=0AI used the spinner from Van's th at WW recommends.- It has a bulkhead behind the prop and one in front of the prop.- It was fairly easy to install and runs true.- I can't imagin e how a spinner would work with only one bulkhead.=0A=0AJay in Dallas=0ADo not archive=0A=0A=0A-----Original Message-----=0AFrom: leinad =0ATo: zenith-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 5:29 pm=0AS einad" =0A=0A=0A=0AI purchased a 12" UHS spinner for 601 xl/corvair from ACS. Has anyone else used =0A=0Athese. I was surprised to see that it comes with only a single bulk head for =0A=0Athe front of the prop. How much of a concern is this? 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