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1. 05:52 AM - 601XL project with WW Corvair for sale (JURU8878)
2. 06:39 AM - Aileron push rods - replies to questions (Dr. Andrew Elliott)
3. 07:30 AM - Re: 601XL project with WW Corvair for sale (JURU8878)
4. 09:03 AM - Stratomaster Enigma (4RCSIMMONS@comcast.net (Rich Simmons))
5. 10:03 AM - test (Bryan Martin)
6. 10:06 AM - Re: Stratomaster Enigma (Gig Giacona)
7. 10:09 AM - Re: Stratomaster Enigma (Craig Payne)
8. 10:21 AM - test (Bryan Martin)
9. 12:55 PM - Re: Stratomaster Enigma (Gig Giacona)
10. 02:04 PM - Re: Re: Stratomaster Enigma (Craig Payne)
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Subject: | 601XL project with WW Corvair for sale |
My father recently passed away and the 601XL project that we were building for
him is for sale. We have the the 2700cc Corvair half assembled with many WW parts.
The rudder, elevator, horizontal stab, main spars, are complete. Fuselage
is started. we have the dual stick option and were planning a tail dragger but
we're not far enough along with the fuse so it can go back to the nose dragger
version. Selling all of it. would like to get 15k for everything, all reasonable
offers will be entertained. I would like the engine and plane to go together
but might consider parting the two.
Feel free to contact me at jlr262(at)yahoo.com or at the phone numbers listed below
if you have any questions. Plane pieces are in Southern MD and engine is
currently in central PA, but is in the process of getting to southern MD.
Thanks....Jud Rupert
301-994-0630 (home)
301-904-8105 (cell)
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Subject: | Aileron push rods - replies to questions |
(long post again) Gang:
First, let me say that the amount of additional wear due to the pushrod
change is *not* quantified. That's why the second alternative, regular
inspection, exists. There are many possible scenarios.
[1] Bill may find that, after regular checking and lubricating every 25
hours for 100 or 200 hours, the wear is acceptable for making the
bearing a "replace every 250 hours"-type part. At this point it would
be reasonable to present the "improvement" to the community to let other
people experiment if they wish. For many people, that would be 5 years
of flying and would be a perfectly reasonable solution. If continued
testing shows acceptable wear, perhaps the TBO can later be increased.
We've all seen this happen.
[2] Bill may find, after the same checking, that there is no discernable
wear at all. Then the experiment is a success! He continues checking
and lubricating, but has little concern. At this point it would be
reasonable to present the "improvement" to the community as a "tested
and works" design change with the maintenance instructions included.
[3] Bill may find, after the 2nd or 3rd or n-th check, that the wear is
already too large. Then the experiment is an educational failure. He
replaces all the parts and puts back the cables, and advises the
community that it didn't work. This doesn't mean it *couldn't* work,
only that this particular implementation failed.
[4] Bill might choose, instead, after the failed check, to replace the
bearings with a more appropriate style, make the necessary changes to
rest of the parts, and start the testing process all over again...
A couple of more notes:
Other people making a similar modification might have different results.
This could depend on your environment, your flying style and your
fabricating/installing skills. It might be different if you have flex
hinges or piano hinges. I would hope that all such results would be
reported.
There is always a time & cost trade-off to be made between design
attributes, up-front analysis and prototype testing. The key, IMHO, in
a life-critical field like aircraft design, is to not be premature in
publicizing and promoting ideas to others, not to jump to conclusions
based on minimal testing, and to *always* be quick and honest about
publicizing any problems.
Gig also asked if leaving in the balance cable would reduce concerns.
I'm not sure what is gained then by doing the mod. You still have all
the maintenance concerns of a cable and are really just treating the
pushrod as a "stiffer" cable. Of course, you could then use a *much*
lighter rod, but the problem with the ailerons has never been slop, it's
always been feel, IMHO.
FWIW,
Andy Elliott, Mesa, AZ
N601GE,601XL/TD,Corvair
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Subject: | Re: 601XL project with WW Corvair for sale |
please use the jlr262@yahoo.com email account, the US Navy blocks most emails that
look like spam so the judson.rupert@navy.mil account will not work. I've
received two emails from someone that I cannot see, so please send to the yahoo
account.
v/r,
Jud
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Subject: | Stratomaster Enigma |
Anybody on this list have any experience with MGL's Stratomaster Enigma, Voyager
or Odyssey.
Likes or dis-likes?
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Thanks,
Rich Simmons
601 XL
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Subject: | Re: Stratomaster Enigma |
4RCSIMMONS(at)comcast.net wrote:
> Anybody on this list have any experience with MGL's Stratomaster Enigma, Voyager
or Odyssey.
>
> Likes or dis-likes?
>
>
I looked at the Voyager at one point but ended up with the Dynon 180. It just seemed
more finished TO ME and I really had no interest in the built in GPS as
always knew I'd go with a Garmin of one flavor or another.
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W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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Subject: | Stratomaster Enigma |
I'm just a customer (I had an unflown Enigma and upgraded to a Voyager) and
I moderate a user-to-user group for MGL products on Yahoo:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/stratomaster_users_group/
We have about 700 subscribers including the head of MGL (Rainier) and most
of the world-wide dealers. If you are not already a member you could join
and solicit opinions there too.
Obviously I like MGL's products but here are some pros and cons:
- the MGL products offer great performance and versatility at a lower price
than their competitors.
- the Enigma/Voyager/Odyssey software evolves rapidly, much more rapidly
than say Dynon. This is a two edge sword.
- you can do a lot of customization: the screen layouts are all "soft" and
can be tuned or completely redesigned. The type and number of probes is also
configurable. But you can spend a lot of time customizing.
- you can download free simulator/screen-designer applications for your PC
for the Enigma or the Odyssey (Voyager is just an Odyssey with a smaller
screen).
My general advice is to postpone your purchase of any of your avionics as
long as possible. Rapid evolution and obsolescence is the pattern these
days. And the manufactures leap-frog each other. Dynon will have a whole new
line this year.
-- Craig
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[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rich Simmons
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 9:48 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Stratomaster Enigma
Anybody on this list have any experience with MGL's Stratomaster Enigma,
Voyager or Odyssey.
Likes or dis-likes?
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Thanks,
Rich Simmons
601 XL
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Subject: | Re: Stratomaster Enigma |
Funny Craig that you didn't mention the one thing I felt was a big plus for the
Stratomaster line. The single wire through the firewall.
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W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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Subject: | Re: Stratomaster Enigma |
Well I did say "some". I didn't mention a lot of things:
- the built-in GPS
- the memory card slot on the front (for easy upgrades, maps, exported
flight logs and second-by-second "black box" logging of flight and engine
data)
- voice alarms ("oil pressure")
- control of radio setting from the EFIS (Garmin, XCOM, MGL radios)
- in the Odyssey a Garmin-G1000 sized LCD display for a LOT less money
- aside from the remote engine data pod the attitude and compass boxes are
separate from the display box
- an optional attitude box using British Aerospace ring gyros
- numeric keypad and rotary knobs (Voyager and Odyssey) for easy entry of
data
- autopilot using Trio Avionics servos (in beta)
- optional I/O extender adds additional analog and digital inputs and
outputs
- nine customizable screens
http://www.mglavionics.co.za/
-- Craig
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[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gig Giacona
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 1:41 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Stratomaster Enigma
Funny Craig that you didn't mention the one thing I felt was a big plus for
the Stratomaster line. The single wire through the firewall.
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W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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