---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 02/16/09: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:14 AM - Re: Re: Fuel Pump Requirements on a Low Wing 601 (Craig Payne) 2. 06:52 AM - Re: Fuel Pump Requirements on a Low Wing 601 (Sabrina) 3. 07:07 AM - Re: Re: Fuel Pump Requirements on a Low Wing 601 (Paul Mulwitz) 4. 12:34 PM - Re: Re: Fuel Pump Requirements on a Low Wing 601 (Clive Richards) 5. 01:07 PM - Re: Fuel Pump Requirements on a Low Wing 601 (Sabrina) 6. 02:29 PM - Conditional Inspection and POH (Karen Johnson) 7. 03:03 PM - Re: Conditional Inspection and POH (jaybannist@cs.com) 8. 04:23 PM - Re: Chat Room Reminder (leinad) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:14:42 AM PST US From: "Craig Payne" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: Fuel Pump Requirements on a Low Wing 601 " BUZZ PUMP 07-00654 $1298.00" $1300? Did you pay list? -- Craig -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sabrina Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 12:09 AM Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Fuel Pump Requirements on a Low Wing 601 The pump works as advertised, keep it below the fuel source, it can be pumped with a little finger one way and a thumb the other, you have enough time between strokes to adjust the throttle or add carb heat. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=230458#230458 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/buzzaero_191.jpg ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:52:38 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Fuel Pump Requirements on a Low Wing 601 From: "Sabrina" I received the usual Sabrina discount. Sometimes a part just arrives after I inquire, sometimes it is sold to me at cost, in this case it was cost plus, in the range of half of that listed on the ACS website. Much less than modifying the 0-200A, not that much more than I paid Zenith (they always charge me list) for the header tank I ended up throwing out after extensive modifications did not pan out. Yes, I still believe in Santa Claus! What do you guys think the factory cost, not dealer cost, on a 2009 Harley Davidson 883 is? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=230494#230494 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:07:50 AM PST US From: Paul Mulwitz Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Fuel Pump Requirements on a Low Wing 601 Is that some kind of carburetor for an O-200? Paul do not archive P. S. standard factory price (NOT cost) is around 25% of list price. That allows 100% markups for both the retailer and distributor. Factory cost is what it costs the factory to produce the part. At 06:51 AM 2/16/2009, you wrote: >What do you guys think the factory cost, not dealer cost, on a 2009 >Harley Davidson 883 is? ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:34:07 PM PST US From: "Clive Richards" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Fuel Pump Requirements on a Low Wing 601 Sabrina I presume you are correct & the pressures would add & the output pressure is not that above atmosphere (I am affraid donot know how thesepumps work) so I would have to rethink if we were to change our system. not likley as it is not so easy to get mods approved in UK. I also had been given wrong minimum pressure of 4 psi at the time we were building & it had been reported on the list at that time that 40105 pumps were insufficient at full power, so we went with the 40106 as it is 4 to 5.5 PSI The engine manual we have says there is a different needle valve assembley for gravity systems but give no part numbers we then found we had to change the float material & needle valve due to an old AD & found only one part number with 6 psi max. In our current system the pressure is that produced by the head of the header tank on the 40106 suction or that of the engine pump in parallel we only checked that each pump output would provide above 125% required max flow I dont know our actual inlet pressure as we donot have a gauge Clive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sabrina" Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 8:24 PM Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Fuel Pump Requirements on a Low Wing 601 > > Notice Ray does not have TWO 40106s... just ONE 06 and two 05s. The 05s > fill the header, the 06 supplies the fuel from the header, the pressures > don't add up that way. > > I used two 40105s, both running on take off and landing. One during > normal flight. I also have a buzz aero mechanical back up set to 6 PSI > as well as an independent backup fuel pump battery. > > Two 40106 pumps, both running, can easily blow past the needle and seat on > the MA3SPA Marvel Schebler carb at cruise where demand is nowhere near 12 > PSI. It is rated at a maxium 6 PSI--see FAA notice below: > > > Page No. 1 2 3 > Rev. No. 17 17 17 > Reformatted 1/95 > DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION > FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION > E-233 > Revision 17 > CONTINENTAL > Marvel-Schebler MA3 -SPA > > NOTE 2. Carburetor fuel inlet pressure limits: > Marvel-Schebler MA3-SPA used with gravity or pump system; minimum 7.5 inch > fuel head, maximum 6 p.s.i. ... -END- > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=230379#230379 > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:07:30 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Fuel Pump Requirements on a Low Wing 601 From: "Sabrina" two parallel 06s in series with an 06 should get you up to 12 PSI with a very good flow... just add a Holley H803 regulator after your last pump and set the pressure at 6 PSI... you could forget to turn off the "take off" pump and not have to worry... the LAA should have no problem with that... Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=230560#230560 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:29:08 PM PST US From: "Karen Johnson" Subject: Zenith-List: Conditional Inspection and POH Hi I am Fred and I have a 601 HD and I am looking for a Conditional Inspection and POH that I can use to make my own. Please send off list to kar.fre@verizon.net Thanks in advance. Do Not Archive Fred ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:03:57 PM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Conditional Inspection and POH From: jaybannist@cs.com Fred - Where are you located. Knowing that might make is easier to recommend an inspector. Jay Bannister Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: Karen Johnson Sent: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 4:26 pm Subject: Zenith-List: Conditional Inspection and POH ? Hi I am Fred and I have a 601 HD and I am looking for a Conditional Inspection and POH that I can use to make my own.? ? Please send off list to kar.fre@verizon.net? ? Thanks in advance.? ? Do Not Archive? ? Fred ? ? ? ________________________________________________________________________ Email message sent from CompuServe - visit us today at http://www.cs.com ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 04:23:42 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Chat Room Reminder From: "leinad" All, Another Monday night has come and it'll soon be time for zenith chat! Hope to see you all there. Dan [quote="georgerace"]Please join us for our Monday evening chat room starting around 8:00 PM Eastern Time. http://www.mykitairplane.com/chat/ (http://www.mykitairplane.com/chat/) George CH-701 - N73EX TAXI TESTED ! 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