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1. 06:42 AM - Fuel Leak (BobbyPaulk@comcast.net)
2. 07:33 AM - Re: Fuel Leak (steve)
3. 07:56 AM - Re: Fuel Leak (Bill Steer)
4. 08:04 AM - Re: Fuel Leak (Ashley)
5. 08:09 AM - Re: Fuel Leak (steve)
6. 08:13 AM - Re: Fuel Leak (steve)
7. 08:16 AM - Re: Fuel Leak (steve)
8. 11:57 AM - Re: Fuel Leak (Elden Jacobson)
9. 01:54 PM - Re: Fuel Leak (Flydog1966@AOL.COM)
10. 02:07 PM - Looking for an AOA or LR Probe` (reinkings@comcast.net)
11. 02:35 PM - Re: Looking for an AOA or LR Probe` (Craig Payne)
12. 06:18 PM - Re: Fuel Leak (John Brumpton)
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At 78 hrs. my left tank VDO fuel level sender started weeping fuel thru the center
wire connector fitting. i am planning to drain the fuel, clean the area with
solvent and try to cover the area with proseal to stop the leak. if that does
not work i will try to remove the sender thru the access hole. i do not want
to remove the tank.
has anyone had this problem. any solutions.
thanks
bobby
N131BP
601 XL
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Before I installed my tanks I pressure checked everything and made sure
the gauges worked. Go figure, after sitting for a year I finally put
fuel in the tanks.
The darn things didnt read at all. I guess the time spent without fuel
caused the rheostats to corrode or something like that.
For whatever reason I had to remove the senders. Each checked out bad.
The manufacturer , VDO, is now Continental....
I ve had a very bad time purchasing new senders. Zenith helped by
supplying new ones but they were the wrong ones for my gauges....I had
to purchase SN 39 senders online.
Made for Ford trucks they are the VDO equivalent...
This whole story comes down to this: It was such a hassle to remove
the senders that I decided to seal off the 59mm holes in the tank ends
and go the "old way" by installing the senders on top of the wing...
This has been a very good move...
If I were to build again, I would be sure to have the senders on top.
I have pictures of the "rebuild" if your interested.
It took less than a day and I m now happy.....
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: BobbyPaulk@comcast.net
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 7:38 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Fuel Leak
List
At 78 hrs. my left tank VDO fuel level sender started weeping fuel
thru the center wire connector fitting. i am planning to drain the fuel,
clean the area with solvent and try to cover the area with proseal to
stop the leak. if that does not work i will try to remove the sender
thru the access hole. i do not want to remove the tank.
has anyone had this problem. any solutions.
thanks
bobby
N131BP
601 XL
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I, too, had a bad sender (but just one, not two). I got a price from
Zenith for a replacement and then checked around on the net. I finally
purchased one from Don's Sport Vehicle Sales in Perry, Michigan. Phone
numbers are 1-800-303-6211 or 1-800-636-0669. It was the exact same
sender I originally got from Zenith.
Hope this helps somebody.
Bill
steve wrote:
> Before I installed my tanks I pressure checked everything and made
> sure the gauges worked. Go figure, after sitting for a year I finally
> put fuel in the tanks.
> The darn things didnt read at all. I guess the time spent without
> fuel caused the rheostats to corrode or something like that.
> For whatever reason I had to remove the senders. Each checked out bad.
> The manufacturer , VDO, is now Continental....
> I ve had a very bad time purchasing new senders. Zenith helped by
> supplying new ones but they were the wrong ones for my gauges....I had
> to purchase SN 39 senders online.
> Made for Ford trucks they are the VDO equivalent...
> This whole story comes down to this: It was such a hassle to remove
> the senders that I decided to seal off the 59mm holes in the tank ends
> and go the "old way" by installing the senders on top of the wing...
> This has been a very good move...
> If I were to build again, I would be sure to have the senders on top.
> I have pictures of the "rebuild" if your interested.
> It took less than a day and I m now happy.....
>
> Steve
>
>
>
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Bobby,
I had similar problem with fuel leaking past on of the screws.
Check that yours is actually the the sender and not an upper screw leak
showing up on the wire.
In any case, I backed the screws out an put some thread lube on the and
that solved the problem.
The senders are not that difficult to remove thru the access hole.
If as you think it is the sender leaking I would try the proseal before
getting a new sender.
In any case, you should not have to open the wing to fix it.
Floyd Wilkes
601XL
----- Original Message -----
From: BobbyPaulk@comcast.net
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 8:38 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Fuel Leak
List
At 78 hrs. my left tank VDO fuel level sender started weeping fuel
thru the center wire connector fitting. i am planning to drain the fuel,
clean the area with solvent and try to cover the area with proseal to
stop the leak. if that does not work i will try to remove the sender
thru the access hole. i do not want to remove the tank.
has anyone had this problem. any solutions.
thanks
bobby
N131BP
601 XL
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I talked to Zenith and was told that the VDO senders were unsatisfactory.
People are having problems with the brand.. Personally I like VDO.
When new they worked great. My point is that I m old and dont like to
mess around in uncomfortable positions, trying to get the senders in and out
of the wing through the ribs.
No matter what brand of senders I like the access thru the top wing skin.
Its sooooooo much easier to remove now and it can be done with fuel in the
tank.......
SW
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Steer" <steerr@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 8:55 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuel Leak
>
> I, too, had a bad sender (but just one, not two). I got a price from
> Zenith for a replacement and then checked around on the net. I finally
> purchased one from Don's Sport Vehicle Sales in Perry, Michigan. Phone
> numbers are 1-800-303-6211 or 1-800-636-0669. It was the exact same
> sender I originally got from Zenith.
>
> Hope this helps somebody.
>
> Bill
>
>
> steve wrote:
>> Before I installed my tanks I pressure checked everything and made sure
>> the gauges worked. Go figure, after sitting for a year I finally put
>> fuel in the tanks. The darn things didnt read at all. I guess the time
>> spent without fuel caused the rheostats to corrode or something like
>> that.
>> For whatever reason I had to remove the senders. Each checked out bad.
>> The manufacturer , VDO, is now Continental....
>> I ve had a very bad time purchasing new senders. Zenith helped by
>> supplying new ones but they were the wrong ones for my gauges....I had to
>> purchase SN 39 senders online.
>> Made for Ford trucks they are the VDO equivalent...
>> This whole story comes down to this: It was such a hassle to remove
>> the senders that I decided to seal off the 59mm holes in the tank ends
>> and go the "old way" by installing the senders on top of the wing...
>> This has been a very good move...
>> If I were to build again, I would be sure to have the senders on top.
>> I have pictures of the "rebuild" if your interested.
>> It took less than a day and I m now happy.....
>> Steve
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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In my case, removing the sender was no big deal. Getting them back in
was...
It aint easy working with one hand thru the small rib hole.
I was so frustrated , and when I saw how other builders installed the
senders on top of the wing, well that was for me.
SW
----- Original Message -----
From: Ashley
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuel Leak
Bobby,
I had similar problem with fuel leaking past on of the screws.
Check that yours is actually the the sender and not an upper screw
leak showing up on the wire.
In any case, I backed the screws out an put some thread lube on the
and that solved the problem.
The senders are not that difficult to remove thru the access hole.
If as you think it is the sender leaking I would try the proseal
before getting a new sender.
In any case, you should not have to open the wing to fix it.
Floyd Wilkes
601XL
----- Original Message -----
From: BobbyPaulk@comcast.net
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 8:38 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Fuel Leak
List
At 78 hrs. my left tank VDO fuel level sender started weeping fuel
thru the center wire connector fitting. i am planning to drain the fuel,
clean the area with solvent and try to cover the area with proseal to
stop the leak. if that does not work i will try to remove the sender
thru the access hole. i do not want to remove the tank.
has anyone had this problem. any solutions.
thanks
bobby
N131BP
601 XL
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Im also sure that when you get it all worked out, you will probably never
need to open it up again. How often do people need to remove their senders
in automobiles ???
----- Original Message -----
From: "steve" <notsew_evets@frontiernet.net>
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 9:07 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuel Leak
>
> I talked to Zenith and was told that the VDO senders were unsatisfactory.
> People are having problems with the brand.. Personally I like VDO.
> When new they worked great. My point is that I m old and dont like to
> mess around in uncomfortable positions, trying to get the senders in and
> out of the wing through the ribs.
> No matter what brand of senders I like the access thru the top wing skin.
> Its sooooooo much easier to remove now and it can be done with fuel in the
> tank.......
> SW
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Steer" <steerr@bellsouth.net>
> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 8:55 AM
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuel Leak
>
>
>>
>> I, too, had a bad sender (but just one, not two). I got a price from
>> Zenith for a replacement and then checked around on the net. I finally
>> purchased one from Don's Sport Vehicle Sales in Perry, Michigan. Phone
>> numbers are 1-800-303-6211 or 1-800-636-0669. It was the exact same
>> sender I originally got from Zenith.
>>
>> Hope this helps somebody.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>> steve wrote:
>>> Before I installed my tanks I pressure checked everything and made sure
>>> the gauges worked. Go figure, after sitting for a year I finally put
>>> fuel in the tanks. The darn things didnt read at all. I guess the time
>>> spent without fuel caused the rheostats to corrode or something like
>>> that.
>>> For whatever reason I had to remove the senders. Each checked out bad.
>>> The manufacturer , VDO, is now Continental....
>>> I ve had a very bad time purchasing new senders. Zenith helped by
>>> supplying new ones but they were the wrong ones for my gauges....I had
>>> to purchase SN 39 senders online.
>>> Made for Ford trucks they are the VDO equivalent...
>>> This whole story comes down to this: It was such a hassle to remove
>>> the senders that I decided to seal off the 59mm holes in the tank ends
>>> and go the "old way" by installing the senders on top of the wing...
>>> This has been a very good move...
>>> If I were to build again, I would be sure to have the senders on top.
>>> I have pictures of the "rebuild" if your interested.
>>> It took less than a day and I m now happy.....
>>> Steve
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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Steve,
=C2-
Might we ask you to post the photos on the list?
=C2-
Thanks,
=C2-
Elden Jacobson
xl/3300
--- On Sat, 2/21/09, steve <notsew_evets@frontiernet.net> wrote:
From: steve <notsew_evets@frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuel Leak
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Before I installed my tanks I pressure checked everything and made sure the
gauges worked.=C2- Go figure, after sitting for a year I finally put fue
l in the tanks.=C2-
The darn things didnt read at all.=C2- I guess the time spent without fue
l caused the rheostats to corrode or something like that.
For whatever reason I had to remove the senders.=C2- Each checked out bad
.
The manufacturer , VDO, is now Continental....
I ve had a very bad time purchasing new senders.=C2- Zenith helped by sup
plying new ones but they were the wrong ones for my gauges....I had to purc
hase=C2-SN 39 senders online.
Made for Ford trucks they are the VDO equivalent...
This whole story comes down to this:=C2-=C2-=C2- It was such a hassle
to remove the senders that I decided to seal off the 59mm holes in the tan
k ends and go the "old way"=C2- by installing the senders on top of the w
ing...
This has been a very good move...
If I were to build again,=C2- I would be sure to have the senders on top.
I have pictures of the "rebuild" if your interested.
It took less than a day and I m now happy.....
=C2-
Steve
=C2-
----- Original Message -----
From: BobbyPaulk@comcast.net
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 7:38 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Fuel Leak
List
=C2-At 78 hrs. my left tank VDO fuel level sender started weeping fuel th
ru the center wire connector fitting. i am planning to drain the fuel, clea
n the area with solvent and try to cover the area with proseal to stop the
leak. if that does not work i will try to remove the sender thru the access
hole. i do not want to remove the tank.
has anyone had this problem. any solutions.
thanks
bobby
N131BP
601 XL
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Twice in 4 years. Ford truck.
In a message dated 2/21/2009 11:17:03 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
notsew_evets@frontiernet.net writes:
How often do people need to remove their senders
in automobiles ???
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| Subject: | Looking for an AOA or LR Probe` |
Greetings from Seattle,
Have been looking at online information for building a reserve lift indicat
or using the converted meter for the indicator. =C2-Have so far been unsu
ccessful at drilling the required 5.25 and 5 .875 3/16 holes for the probe.
Looking around the archives and a few other sites, saw mention of a fella d
own in Texas who was selling these probes for a modest sum. =C2- =C2-An
y of you know if he still makes them and how to reach him?
I've severall other ideas I want to try but would purchase the danged thing
if I could find one.
John Reinking/Woodinville, WA
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| Subject: | Looking for an AOA or LR Probe` |
The guy in Texas is John Bolding (jnbolding1@teleshare.net). He has had
at least two batches molded in nylon. Mine should arrive on Monday. He
says he has plenty left. Others who have placed theirs into service can
add their comments. John=99s price with shipping is $40. He is
active on the Zenith lists and should respond soon. The differential
pressure gauges are also available, I think from John or others.
-- Craig
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[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
reinkings@comcast.net
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:06 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Looking for an AOA or LR Probe`
Greetings from Seattle,
Have been looking at online information for building a reserve lift
indicator using the converted meter for the indicator. Have so far been
unsuccessful at drilling the required 5.25 and 5 .875 3/16 holes for the
probe.
Looking around the archives and a few other sites, saw mention of a
fella down in Texas who was selling these probes for a modest sum.
Any of you know if he still makes them and how to reach him?
I've severall other ideas I want to try but would purchase the danged
thing if I could find one.
John Reinking/Woodinville, WA
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Hi Steve
Could you please forward some pictures to the list & specify the senders
and gauges you used and where they were purchased from at what cost?
Thanks
John
----- Original Message -----
From: steve
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 2:01 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuel Leak
Before I installed my tanks I pressure checked everything and made
sure the gauges worked. Go figure, after sitting for a year I finally
put fuel in the tanks.
The darn things didnt read at all. I guess the time spent without
fuel caused the rheostats to corrode or something like that.
For whatever reason I had to remove the senders. Each checked out
bad.
The manufacturer , VDO, is now Continental....
I ve had a very bad time purchasing new senders. Zenith helped by
supplying new ones but they were the wrong ones for my gauges....I had
to purchase SN 39 senders online.
Made for Ford trucks they are the VDO equivalent...
This whole story comes down to this: It was such a hassle to remove
the senders that I decided to seal off the 59mm holes in the tank ends
and go the "old way" by installing the senders on top of the wing...
This has been a very good move...
If I were to build again, I would be sure to have the senders on top.
I have pictures of the "rebuild" if your interested.
It took less than a day and I m now happy.....
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: BobbyPaulk@comcast.net
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 7:38 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Fuel Leak
List
At 78 hrs. my left tank VDO fuel level sender started weeping fuel
thru the center wire connector fitting. i am planning to drain the fuel,
clean the area with solvent and try to cover the area with proseal to
stop the leak. if that does not work i will try to remove the sender
thru the access hole. i do not want to remove the tank.
has anyone had this problem. any solutions.
thanks
bobby
N131BP
601 XL
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