---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 02/21/09: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:42 AM - Fuel Leak (BobbyPaulk@comcast.net) 2. 07:33 AM - Re: Fuel Leak (steve) 3. 07:56 AM - Re: Fuel Leak (Bill Steer) 4. 08:04 AM - Re: Fuel Leak (Ashley) 5. 08:09 AM - Re: Fuel Leak (steve) 6. 08:13 AM - Re: Fuel Leak (steve) 7. 08:16 AM - Re: Fuel Leak (steve) 8. 11:57 AM - Re: Fuel Leak (Elden Jacobson) 9. 01:54 PM - Re: Fuel Leak (Flydog1966@AOL.COM) 10. 02:07 PM - Looking for an AOA or LR Probe` (reinkings@comcast.net) 11. 02:35 PM - Re: Looking for an AOA or LR Probe` (Craig Payne) 12. 06:18 PM - Re: Fuel Leak (John Brumpton) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:42:10 AM PST US From: BobbyPaulk@comcast.net Subject: Zenith-List: Fuel Leak List At 78 hrs. my left tank VDO fuel level sender started weeping fuel thru the center wire connector fitting. i am planning to drain the fuel, clean the area with solvent and try to cover the area with proseal to stop the leak. if that does not work i will try to remove the sender thru the access hole. i do not want to remove the tank. has anyone had this problem. any solutions. thanks bobby N131BP 601 XL ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:33:26 AM PST US From: "steve" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuel Leak Before I installed my tanks I pressure checked everything and made sure the gauges worked. Go figure, after sitting for a year I finally put fuel in the tanks. The darn things didnt read at all. I guess the time spent without fuel caused the rheostats to corrode or something like that. For whatever reason I had to remove the senders. Each checked out bad. The manufacturer , VDO, is now Continental.... I ve had a very bad time purchasing new senders. Zenith helped by supplying new ones but they were the wrong ones for my gauges....I had to purchase SN 39 senders online. Made for Ford trucks they are the VDO equivalent... This whole story comes down to this: It was such a hassle to remove the senders that I decided to seal off the 59mm holes in the tank ends and go the "old way" by installing the senders on top of the wing... This has been a very good move... If I were to build again, I would be sure to have the senders on top. I have pictures of the "rebuild" if your interested. It took less than a day and I m now happy..... Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: BobbyPaulk@comcast.net To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 7:38 AM Subject: Zenith-List: Fuel Leak List At 78 hrs. my left tank VDO fuel level sender started weeping fuel thru the center wire connector fitting. i am planning to drain the fuel, clean the area with solvent and try to cover the area with proseal to stop the leak. if that does not work i will try to remove the sender thru the access hole. i do not want to remove the tank. has anyone had this problem. any solutions. thanks bobby N131BP 601 XL ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:56:32 AM PST US From: Bill Steer Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuel Leak I, too, had a bad sender (but just one, not two). I got a price from Zenith for a replacement and then checked around on the net. I finally purchased one from Don's Sport Vehicle Sales in Perry, Michigan. Phone numbers are 1-800-303-6211 or 1-800-636-0669. It was the exact same sender I originally got from Zenith. Hope this helps somebody. Bill steve wrote: > Before I installed my tanks I pressure checked everything and made > sure the gauges worked. Go figure, after sitting for a year I finally > put fuel in the tanks. > The darn things didnt read at all. I guess the time spent without > fuel caused the rheostats to corrode or something like that. > For whatever reason I had to remove the senders. Each checked out bad. > The manufacturer , VDO, is now Continental.... > I ve had a very bad time purchasing new senders. Zenith helped by > supplying new ones but they were the wrong ones for my gauges....I had > to purchase SN 39 senders online. > Made for Ford trucks they are the VDO equivalent... > This whole story comes down to this: It was such a hassle to remove > the senders that I decided to seal off the 59mm holes in the tank ends > and go the "old way" by installing the senders on top of the wing... > This has been a very good move... > If I were to build again, I would be sure to have the senders on top. > I have pictures of the "rebuild" if your interested. > It took less than a day and I m now happy..... > > Steve > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:04:25 AM PST US From: "Ashley" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuel Leak Bobby, I had similar problem with fuel leaking past on of the screws. Check that yours is actually the the sender and not an upper screw leak showing up on the wire. In any case, I backed the screws out an put some thread lube on the and that solved the problem. The senders are not that difficult to remove thru the access hole. If as you think it is the sender leaking I would try the proseal before getting a new sender. In any case, you should not have to open the wing to fix it. Floyd Wilkes 601XL ----- Original Message ----- From: BobbyPaulk@comcast.net To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 8:38 AM Subject: Zenith-List: Fuel Leak List At 78 hrs. my left tank VDO fuel level sender started weeping fuel thru the center wire connector fitting. i am planning to drain the fuel, clean the area with solvent and try to cover the area with proseal to stop the leak. if that does not work i will try to remove the sender thru the access hole. i do not want to remove the tank. has anyone had this problem. any solutions. thanks bobby N131BP 601 XL ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:09:03 AM PST US From: "steve" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuel Leak I talked to Zenith and was told that the VDO senders were unsatisfactory. People are having problems with the brand.. Personally I like VDO. When new they worked great. My point is that I m old and dont like to mess around in uncomfortable positions, trying to get the senders in and out of the wing through the ribs. No matter what brand of senders I like the access thru the top wing skin. Its sooooooo much easier to remove now and it can be done with fuel in the tank....... SW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Steer" Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 8:55 AM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuel Leak > > I, too, had a bad sender (but just one, not two). I got a price from > Zenith for a replacement and then checked around on the net. I finally > purchased one from Don's Sport Vehicle Sales in Perry, Michigan. Phone > numbers are 1-800-303-6211 or 1-800-636-0669. It was the exact same > sender I originally got from Zenith. > > Hope this helps somebody. > > Bill > > > steve wrote: >> Before I installed my tanks I pressure checked everything and made sure >> the gauges worked. Go figure, after sitting for a year I finally put >> fuel in the tanks. The darn things didnt read at all. I guess the time >> spent without fuel caused the rheostats to corrode or something like >> that. >> For whatever reason I had to remove the senders. Each checked out bad. >> The manufacturer , VDO, is now Continental.... >> I ve had a very bad time purchasing new senders. Zenith helped by >> supplying new ones but they were the wrong ones for my gauges....I had to >> purchase SN 39 senders online. >> Made for Ford trucks they are the VDO equivalent... >> This whole story comes down to this: It was such a hassle to remove >> the senders that I decided to seal off the 59mm holes in the tank ends >> and go the "old way" by installing the senders on top of the wing... >> This has been a very good move... >> If I were to build again, I would be sure to have the senders on top. >> I have pictures of the "rebuild" if your interested. >> It took less than a day and I m now happy..... >> Steve >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:13:23 AM PST US From: "steve" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuel Leak In my case, removing the sender was no big deal. Getting them back in was... It aint easy working with one hand thru the small rib hole. I was so frustrated , and when I saw how other builders installed the senders on top of the wing, well that was for me. SW ----- Original Message ----- From: Ashley To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 9:00 AM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuel Leak Bobby, I had similar problem with fuel leaking past on of the screws. Check that yours is actually the the sender and not an upper screw leak showing up on the wire. In any case, I backed the screws out an put some thread lube on the and that solved the problem. The senders are not that difficult to remove thru the access hole. If as you think it is the sender leaking I would try the proseal before getting a new sender. In any case, you should not have to open the wing to fix it. Floyd Wilkes 601XL ----- Original Message ----- From: BobbyPaulk@comcast.net To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 8:38 AM Subject: Zenith-List: Fuel Leak List At 78 hrs. my left tank VDO fuel level sender started weeping fuel thru the center wire connector fitting. i am planning to drain the fuel, clean the area with solvent and try to cover the area with proseal to stop the leak. if that does not work i will try to remove the sender thru the access hole. i do not want to remove the tank. has anyone had this problem. any solutions. thanks bobby N131BP 601 XL href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:16:37 AM PST US From: "steve" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuel Leak Im also sure that when you get it all worked out, you will probably never need to open it up again. How often do people need to remove their senders in automobiles ??? ----- Original Message ----- From: "steve" Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 9:07 AM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuel Leak > > I talked to Zenith and was told that the VDO senders were unsatisfactory. > People are having problems with the brand.. Personally I like VDO. > When new they worked great. My point is that I m old and dont like to > mess around in uncomfortable positions, trying to get the senders in and > out of the wing through the ribs. > No matter what brand of senders I like the access thru the top wing skin. > Its sooooooo much easier to remove now and it can be done with fuel in the > tank....... > SW > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Steer" > To: > Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 8:55 AM > Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuel Leak > > >> >> I, too, had a bad sender (but just one, not two). I got a price from >> Zenith for a replacement and then checked around on the net. I finally >> purchased one from Don's Sport Vehicle Sales in Perry, Michigan. Phone >> numbers are 1-800-303-6211 or 1-800-636-0669. It was the exact same >> sender I originally got from Zenith. >> >> Hope this helps somebody. >> >> Bill >> >> >> steve wrote: >>> Before I installed my tanks I pressure checked everything and made sure >>> the gauges worked. Go figure, after sitting for a year I finally put >>> fuel in the tanks. The darn things didnt read at all. I guess the time >>> spent without fuel caused the rheostats to corrode or something like >>> that. >>> For whatever reason I had to remove the senders. Each checked out bad. >>> The manufacturer , VDO, is now Continental.... >>> I ve had a very bad time purchasing new senders. Zenith helped by >>> supplying new ones but they were the wrong ones for my gauges....I had >>> to purchase SN 39 senders online. >>> Made for Ford trucks they are the VDO equivalent... >>> This whole story comes down to this: It was such a hassle to remove >>> the senders that I decided to seal off the 59mm holes in the tank ends >>> and go the "old way" by installing the senders on top of the wing... >>> This has been a very good move... >>> If I were to build again, I would be sure to have the senders on top. >>> I have pictures of the "rebuild" if your interested. >>> It took less than a day and I m now happy..... >>> Steve >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:57:45 AM PST US From: Elden Jacobson Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuel Leak Steve, =C2- Might we ask you to post the photos on the list? =C2- Thanks, =C2- Elden Jacobson xl/3300 --- On Sat, 2/21/09, steve wrote: From: steve Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuel Leak =EF=BB #yiv1208483879 P { MARGIN:0px;} Before I installed my tanks I pressure checked everything and made sure the gauges worked.=C2- Go figure, after sitting for a year I finally put fue l in the tanks.=C2- The darn things didnt read at all.=C2- I guess the time spent without fue l caused the rheostats to corrode or something like that. For whatever reason I had to remove the senders.=C2- Each checked out bad .. The manufacturer , VDO, is now Continental.... I ve had a very bad time purchasing new senders.=C2- Zenith helped by sup plying new ones but they were the wrong ones for my gauges....I had to purc hase=C2-SN 39 senders online. Made for Ford trucks they are the VDO equivalent... This whole story comes down to this:=C2-=C2-=C2- It was such a hassle to remove the senders that I decided to seal off the 59mm holes in the tan k ends and go the "old way"=C2- by installing the senders on top of the w ing... This has been a very good move... If I were to build again,=C2- I would be sure to have the senders on top. I have pictures of the "rebuild" if your interested. It took less than a day and I m now happy..... =C2- Steve =C2- ----- Original Message ----- From: BobbyPaulk@comcast.net Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 7:38 AM Subject: Zenith-List: Fuel Leak List =C2-At 78 hrs. my left tank VDO fuel level sender started weeping fuel th ru the center wire connector fitting. i am planning to drain the fuel, clea n the area with solvent and try to cover the area with proseal to stop the leak. if that does not work i will try to remove the sender thru the access hole. i do not want to remove the tank. has anyone had this problem. any solutions. thanks bobby N131BP 601 XL href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List">http://www.matronhr ef="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 01:54:39 PM PST US From: Flydog1966@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuel Leak Twice in 4 years. Ford truck. In a message dated 2/21/2009 11:17:03 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, notsew_evets@frontiernet.net writes: How often do people need to remove their senders in automobiles ??? **************You can't always choose whom you love, but you can choose how to find them. Start with AOL Personals. (http://personals.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntuslove00000002) ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 02:07:03 PM PST US From: reinkings@comcast.net Subject: Zenith-List: Looking for an AOA or LR Probe` Greetings from Seattle, Have been looking at online information for building a reserve lift indicat or using the converted meter for the indicator. =C2-Have so far been unsu ccessful at drilling the required 5.25 and 5 .875 3/16 holes for the probe. Looking around the archives and a few other sites, saw mention of a fella d own in Texas who was selling these probes for a modest sum. =C2- =C2-An y of you know if he still makes them and how to reach him? I've severall other ideas I want to try but would purchase the danged thing if I could find one. John Reinking/Woodinville, WA ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 02:35:27 PM PST US From: "Craig Payne" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Looking for an AOA or LR Probe` The guy in Texas is John Bolding (jnbolding1@teleshare.net). He has had at least two batches molded in nylon. Mine should arrive on Monday. He says he has plenty left. Others who have placed theirs into service can add their comments. John=99s price with shipping is $40. He is active on the Zenith lists and should respond soon. The differential pressure gauges are also available, I think from John or others. -- Craig From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of reinkings@comcast.net Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:06 PM Subject: Zenith-List: Looking for an AOA or LR Probe` Greetings from Seattle, Have been looking at online information for building a reserve lift indicator using the converted meter for the indicator. Have so far been unsuccessful at drilling the required 5.25 and 5 .875 3/16 holes for the probe. Looking around the archives and a few other sites, saw mention of a fella down in Texas who was selling these probes for a modest sum. Any of you know if he still makes them and how to reach him? I've severall other ideas I want to try but would purchase the danged thing if I could find one. John Reinking/Woodinville, WA ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 06:18:13 PM PST US From: "John Brumpton" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuel Leak Hi Steve Could you please forward some pictures to the list & specify the senders and gauges you used and where they were purchased from at what cost? Thanks John ----- Original Message ----- From: steve To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 2:01 AM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuel Leak Before I installed my tanks I pressure checked everything and made sure the gauges worked. Go figure, after sitting for a year I finally put fuel in the tanks. The darn things didnt read at all. I guess the time spent without fuel caused the rheostats to corrode or something like that. For whatever reason I had to remove the senders. Each checked out bad. The manufacturer , VDO, is now Continental.... I ve had a very bad time purchasing new senders. Zenith helped by supplying new ones but they were the wrong ones for my gauges....I had to purchase SN 39 senders online. Made for Ford trucks they are the VDO equivalent... This whole story comes down to this: It was such a hassle to remove the senders that I decided to seal off the 59mm holes in the tank ends and go the "old way" by installing the senders on top of the wing... This has been a very good move... If I were to build again, I would be sure to have the senders on top. I have pictures of the "rebuild" if your interested. It took less than a day and I m now happy..... Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: BobbyPaulk@comcast.net To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 7:38 AM Subject: Zenith-List: Fuel Leak List At 78 hrs. my left tank VDO fuel level sender started weeping fuel thru the center wire connector fitting. i am planning to drain the fuel, clean the area with solvent and try to cover the area with proseal to stop the leak. if that does not work i will try to remove the sender thru the access hole. i do not want to remove the tank. has anyone had this problem. any solutions. thanks bobby N131BP 601 XL href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c __________ NOD32 3846 (20090211) Information __________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message zenith-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Zenith-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/zenith-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/zenith-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.