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1. 06:04 AM - Still flying? (roger lambert)
2. 09:31 AM - Re: Still flying? (Gig Giacona)
3. 10:10 AM - Re: Fuel Leak (ashontz)
4. 10:54 AM - Re: New Panel Design (Dan Lykowski)
5. 11:57 AM - Re: Fuel Leak (steve)
6. 12:14 PM - Re: Fuel Leak (Elden Jacobson)
7. 01:27 PM - Re: Fuel Leak (John Brumpton)
8. 03:47 PM - Olfa Knife - SEM pictures for the curious builder (bcchurch)
9. 04:07 PM - Re: Olfa Knife - SEM pictures for the curious builder (Larry Winger)
10. 04:21 PM - Re: Olfa Knife - SEM pictures for the curious builder (bcchurch)
11. 05:05 PM - Re: Re: Olfa Knife - SEM pictures for the curious builder (Carlos Sa)
12. 06:00 PM - Chat Room reminder for "Digesters" (George Race)
13. 07:29 PM - Re: Olfa Knife - SEM pictures for the curious builder (Ron Lendon)
14. 08:21 PM - Re: Re: Olfa Knife - SEM pictures for the curious builder (ihab.awad@gmail.com)
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I note that RICHARD LINDSTROM of Kitplanes Magazine is still the registered
owner of his 601xl- N42KP as featured in the magazine. Does anyone know of
his stand on the design worthiness of the airplane? The final segments of
the article have not been included in the Zenithair website?
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| Subject: | Re: Still flying? |
He posts here regularly. A search of Lindstrom should find you any comments he
has made on the issue and he has made some.
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W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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I'm building my tanks now. I actually went ahead and decided on my own to put the
sender on top. Glad I did. Just a generic fuel sender from Pep Boys, sender
and gauge, $40 total. To mount the sender I made a ring backer plate out of .0125
aluminum and tapped the ring for 10-32 brass machine screws. Also, I cut
a notch of of the ring to essentially make it horseshoe shape so that it can be
installed through the access hole in the tank that the sender sits in. I install
the assembly by using a piece of 12" long all-thread to hold the backer plate
in place from the inside while I start to install the sender from the outside.
Works really well and would work well for a retrofit for moving the sender
to a new location after the fact.
[quote="notsew_evets(at)frontiern"]Before I installed my tanks I pressure checked
everything and made sure the gauges worked. Go figure, after sitting for
a year I finally put fuel in the tanks.
The darn things didnt read at all. I guess the time spent without fuel caused
the rheostats to corrode or something like that.
For whatever reason I had to remove the senders. Each checked out bad.
The manufacturer , VDO, is now Continental....
I ve had a very bad time purchasing new senders. Zenith helped by supplying
new ones but they were the wrong ones for my gauges....I had to purchase SN 39
senders online.
Made for Ford trucks they are the VDO equivalent...
This whole story comes down to this: It was such a hassle to remove the senders
that I decided to seal off the 59mm holes in the tank ends and go the "old
way" by installing the senders on top of the wing...
This has been a very good move...
If I were to build again, I would be sure to have the senders on top.
I have pictures of the "rebuild" if your interested.
It took less than a day and I m now happy.....
Steve
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Andy Shontz
do not archive
CH601XL - Corvair
www.mykitlog.com/ashontz
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| Subject: | Re: New Panel Design |
Terry,
Sorry I didn't reply sooner.. I filter the Zenith list to its own mail box and
I haven/t had time to read it lately. Gen2 will have the ability to write logs
to a USB stick. It will also be used for software updates.
Dan Lykowski
Dynon Avionics
________________________________
From: Terry Phillips <ttp44@rkymtn.net>
Sent: Monday, February 9, 2009 11:49:05 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: New Panel Design
Hi Dan
Assuming that you are still the Zenith-List's inside guy at Dynon, I'd like to
pass along something for the Dynon wish list:
I'd really like to see a USB port through which the system could just dump all
the data to a USB drive in a CSV format. Then one could use it for a data recorder
during Phase I testing. And, in a more solemn vein, it would function as
a dirt cheap black box if an accident happened. Is such a thing feasible? Maybe
it's already there?
Thanks for listening.
Terry
At 02:20 PM 7/29/2008 -0700, you wrote:
> Thanks for the suggestion.. Actually a couple people have suggested I move them
further in.. LOL.. I honestly just randomly taped them to the panel to show
them off. Depending on how things work out, I may start with the 7's and upgrade
to a pair of 10's eventually once we release our Com radio and transponder.
( I won't need the panel space for radios )
>
> Why not Grand Rapids? LOL.. Because Dynons are the Best! and the price is right.
;)
>
> Just in case anyone out there was wondering how my fuselage just seemed to have
appeared.. I was the person who bought the $1500 deal in Lynnwood, WA about
a week ago. It was right down the road from me, and the workmanship was excellent.
It was just a little more complete than a Quickbuild.
>
> Dan Lykowski
> Dynon Avionics Software Engineer
> 601XL
Terry Phillips ZBAGer
ttp44~at~rkymtn.net
Corvallis MT
601XL/Jab 3300 s .. l .. o .. o .. w build kit - Tail, flaps, & ailerons are done;
working on the wings
http://www.mykitlog.com/N47TP/
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I ll be happy to send you all pictures of how I installed the senders on
the top of the fuel tanks. I do have a slight problem. Seems I cant
post on matronics. All I can do is reply to your emails.
About six months ago I got totally fed up with the website, with all of
the wannabies spewing BS.
There was much information that was not from actual builders and some of
it was down right "off base".
Remember the guy who told us to put weights on the trailing edge of the
ailerons?... Thats his suggestion on balancing to stop flutter....
I hope things are better now.
I m on the Zenith site now. Its for builders and flyers.
So far the scoop seems ok....
SW
----- Original Message -----
From: John Brumpton
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 7:14 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuel Leak
Hi Steve
Could you please forward some pictures to the list & specify the
senders and gauges you used and where they were purchased from at what
cost?
Thanks
John
----- Original Message -----
From: steve
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 2:01 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuel Leak
Before I installed my tanks I pressure checked everything and made
sure the gauges worked. Go figure, after sitting for a year I finally
put fuel in the tanks.
The darn things didnt read at all. I guess the time spent without
fuel caused the rheostats to corrode or something like that.
For whatever reason I had to remove the senders. Each checked out
bad.
The manufacturer , VDO, is now Continental....
I ve had a very bad time purchasing new senders. Zenith helped by
supplying new ones but they were the wrong ones for my gauges....I had
to purchase SN 39 senders online.
Made for Ford trucks they are the VDO equivalent...
This whole story comes down to this: It was such a hassle to
remove the senders that I decided to seal off the 59mm holes in the tank
ends and go the "old way" by installing the senders on top of the
wing...
This has been a very good move...
If I were to build again, I would be sure to have the senders on
top.
I have pictures of the "rebuild" if your interested.
It took less than a day and I m now happy.....
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: BobbyPaulk@comcast.net
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 7:38 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Fuel Leak
List
At 78 hrs. my left tank VDO fuel level sender started weeping
fuel thru the center wire connector fitting. i am planning to drain the
fuel, clean the area with solvent and try to cover the area with proseal
to stop the leak. if that does not work i will try to remove the sender
thru the access hole. i do not want to remove the tank.
has anyone had this problem. any solutions.
thanks
bobby
N131BP
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Steve,
=C2-
I'd be delighted to receive such photos; I am at the point of having to mak
e basic decisions about the fuel tanks. Thanks=C2-=C2-=C2- eldenej@ya
hoo.com
--- On Mon, 2/23/09, steve <notsew_evets@frontiernet.net> wrote:
From: steve <notsew_evets@frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuel Leak
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I ll be happy to send you all pictures of how I installed the senders on th
e top of the fuel tanks.=C2- I do have a slight problem.=C2- Seems I ca
nt post on matronics.=C2- All I can do is reply to your emails.
About six months ago I got totally fed up with the website, with all of the
wannabies spewing BS.
There was much information that was not from actual builders and some of it
was down right "off base".
Remember the guy who told us to put weights on the trailing edge of the ail
erons?...=C2- Thats his suggestion on balancing to stop flutter....
I hope things are better now.
I m on the Zenith site now.=C2- Its for builders and flyers.
So far the scoop seems ok....
=C2-
SW
----- Original Message -----
From: John Brumpton
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 7:14 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuel Leak
Hi Steve
Could you please=C2-forward some pictures to the list & specify the sende
rs and gauges you used and where they were purchased from at what cost?
Thanks
John
----- Original Message -----
From: steve
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 2:01 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuel Leak
Before I installed my tanks I pressure checked everything and made sure the
gauges worked.=C2- Go figure, after sitting for a year I finally put fue
l in the tanks.=C2-
The darn things didnt read at all.=C2- I guess the time spent without fue
l caused the rheostats to corrode or something like that.
For whatever reason I had to remove the senders.=C2- Each checked out bad
.
The manufacturer , VDO, is now Continental....
I ve had a very bad time purchasing new senders.=C2- Zenith helped by sup
plying new ones but they were the wrong ones for my gauges....I had to purc
hase=C2-SN 39 senders online.
Made for Ford trucks they are the VDO equivalent...
This whole story comes down to this:=C2-=C2-=C2- It was such a hassle
to remove the senders that I decided to seal off the 59mm holes in the tan
k ends and go the "old way"=C2- by installing the senders on top of the w
ing...
This has been a very good move...
If I were to build again,=C2- I would be sure to have the senders on top.
I have pictures of the "rebuild" if your interested.
It took less than a day and I m now happy.....
=C2-
Steve
=C2-
----- Original Message -----
From: BobbyPaulk@comcast.net
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 7:38 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Fuel Leak
List
=C2-At 78 hrs. my left tank VDO fuel level sender started weeping fuel th
ru the center wire connector fitting. i am planning to drain the fuel, clea
n the area with solvent and try to cover the area with proseal to stop the
leak. if that does not work i will try to remove the sender thru the access
hole. i do not want to remove the tank.
has anyone had this problem. any solutions.
thanks
bobby
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Steve
Could you email me on jbrumpt@activ8.net.au
Thanks
John
----- Original Message -----
From: steve
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:25 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuel Leak
I ll be happy to send you all pictures of how I installed the senders
on the top of the fuel tanks. I do have a slight problem. Seems I cant
post on matronics. All I can do is reply to your emails.
About six months ago I got totally fed up with the website, with all
of the wannabies spewing BS.
There was much information that was not from actual builders and some
of it was down right "off base".
Remember the guy who told us to put weights on the trailing edge of
the ailerons?... Thats his suggestion on balancing to stop flutter....
I hope things are better now.
I m on the Zenith site now. Its for builders and flyers.
So far the scoop seems ok....
SW
----- Original Message -----
From: John Brumpton
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 7:14 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuel Leak
Hi Steve
Could you please forward some pictures to the list & specify the
senders and gauges you used and where they were purchased from at what
cost?
Thanks
John
----- Original Message -----
From: steve
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 2:01 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuel Leak
Before I installed my tanks I pressure checked everything and made
sure the gauges worked. Go figure, after sitting for a year I finally
put fuel in the tanks.
The darn things didnt read at all. I guess the time spent without
fuel caused the rheostats to corrode or something like that.
For whatever reason I had to remove the senders. Each checked out
bad.
The manufacturer , VDO, is now Continental....
I ve had a very bad time purchasing new senders. Zenith helped by
supplying new ones but they were the wrong ones for my gauges....I had
to purchase SN 39 senders online.
Made for Ford trucks they are the VDO equivalent...
This whole story comes down to this: It was such a hassle to
remove the senders that I decided to seal off the 59mm holes in the tank
ends and go the "old way" by installing the senders on top of the
wing...
This has been a very good move...
If I were to build again, I would be sure to have the senders on
top.
I have pictures of the "rebuild" if your interested.
It took less than a day and I m now happy.....
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: BobbyPaulk@comcast.net
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 7:38 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Fuel Leak
List
At 78 hrs. my left tank VDO fuel level sender started weeping
fuel thru the center wire connector fitting. i am planning to drain the
fuel, clean the area with solvent and try to cover the area with proseal
to stop the leak. if that does not work i will try to remove the sender
thru the access hole. i do not want to remove the tank.
has anyone had this problem. any solutions.
thanks
bobby
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| Subject: | Olfa Knife - SEM pictures for the curious builder |
Thought I'd share some pictures I took showing what an Olfa Knife does to aluminum.
Regards,
Ben
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CH801
Racine, WI
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| Subject: | Re: Olfa Knife - SEM pictures for the curious builder |
That's crazy. Where did you make the magnified images?
Larry Winger
650/Corvair
Fuselage ready to rivet
Tustin, CA
Do Not Archive
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 3:46 PM, bcchurch <bcchurch@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Thought I'd share some pictures I took showing what an Olfa Knife does to
> aluminum.
>
> Regards,
> Ben
>
> --------
> Ben Church
> CH801
> Racine, WI
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=231561#231561
>
>
> Attachments:
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> http://forums.matronics.com//files/olfa_198.pdf
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Olfa Knife - SEM pictures for the curious builder |
Larry,
Can't seem to spend my entire work day working...
I'm materials engineer and use electron microscopes on a regular basis. It's
good practice for me to look at "non-routine" things from time to time - just
to keep the skills sharp.
Regards,
Ben
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Ben Church
CH801
Racine, WI
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| Subject: | Re: Olfa Knife - SEM pictures for the curious builder |
Very, very cool!
Next time you are bored, how about a raw vs polished surfaces?
Cheers
Carlos
CH601-HD, plans
do not archive
2009/2/22 bcchurch <bcchurch@yahoo.com>
>
> Larry,
>
> Can't seem to spend my entire work day working...
>
> I'm materials engineer and use electron microscopes on a regular basis.
> It's good practice for me to look at "non-routine" things from time to time
> - just to keep the skills sharp.
>
> Regards,
> Ben
>
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| Subject: | Chat Room reminder for "Digesters" |
Please join us for our Monday evening Chat. Around 8:00 PM Eastern Time.
www.mykitairplane.com/chat <blocked::http://www.mykitairplane.com/chat>
George
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| Subject: | Re: Olfa Knife - SEM pictures for the curious builder |
Ben,
Let us see what that edge looks like after working the edge with a vixen file,
then again after all the burrs are removed.
Thanks,
--------
Ron Lendon, Clinton Township, MI
WW Corvair with Roy's Garage 5th bearing
Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder ;-)
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| Subject: | Re: Olfa Knife - SEM pictures for the curious builder |
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 7:28 PM, Ron Lendon <rlendon@comcast.net> wrote:
> Let us see what that edge looks like ...
Yes, and let's settle the Scotch-Brite debate once and for all, scientifically.
Ihab
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