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1. 12:14 PM - Teflon Tape & Auto Gas (James Sagerser)
2. 01:14 PM - Re: Teflon Tape & Auto Gas (chris Sinfield)
3. 01:17 PM - Re: Teflon Tape & Auto Gas (Bryan Martin)
4. 02:23 PM - Re: Re: Absence of Evidence (Juan Vega)
5. 03:12 PM - Wing Skin Build Sequence (leinad)
6. 04:17 PM - Re: Wing Skin Build Sequence (sky_ranger161@yahoo.com)
7. 04:50 PM - Re: Re: Absence of Evidence (JAPhillipsGA@aol.com)
8. 05:15 PM - Re: Teflon Tape & Auto Gas (Roger & Lina Hill)
9. 05:35 PM - Re: 601XL Aileron Bellcrank Brace (Ron Lendon)
10. 05:55 PM - Re: Teflon Tape & Auto Gas (jaybannist@cs.com)
11. 05:56 PM - Re: Wing Skin Build Sequence (Ron Lendon)
12. 07:37 PM - Re: Teflon Tape & Auto Gas (Roger & Lina Hill)
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| Subject: | Teflon Tape & Auto Gas |
Does anyone know if Teflon tape is auto gas compatable? I want to install a
brass fitting in a poly gas tank and thought I would use teflon tape as a
sealant for the threads on a barbed hose fitting.. Amy better ideas?
Fitting seem a little loose. Thanks in advance for your reply. Jim
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| Subject: | Re: Teflon Tape & Auto Gas |
Teflon tape is not recommended as it blocks up the fuel filter when it breaks up.
People have used it on external areas but I would not recommend it on any fuel
lines.
Chris.
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| Subject: | Re: Teflon Tape & Auto Gas |
Teflon tape is compatible with auto gas, but I wouldn't use it in an
airplane. If you ever reuse the fittings, there is a risk of the
shreds of teflon tape getting into the lines and clogging things up. A
small amount of white teflon paste or something like Permatex Aviation
Form-A-Gasket would be a better choice.
On Feb 28, 2009, at 3:12 PM, James Sagerser wrote:
> Does anyone know if Teflon tape is auto gas compatable? I want to
> install a brass fitting in a poly gas tank and thought I would use
> teflon tape as a sealant for the threads on a barbed hose
> fitting.. Amy better ideas? Fitting seem a little loose. Thanks
> in advance for your reply. Jim
>
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N61BM, CH 601 XL,
RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
do not archive.
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| Subject: | Re: Absence of Evidence |
and elvis is alive in Greenland, married to the alien that landed at aera 51.
put it to bed.
do not archive Juan
-----Original Message-----
>From: Gig Giacona <wrgiacona@gmail.com>
>Sent: Feb 27, 2009 3:03 PM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Absence of Evidence
>
>
>
>ihab.awad(at)gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Please don't try to make fun of me or anyone; this doesn't help the discussion.
>>
>> As far as my reasoning goes, here it is. When an accident is
>> precipitated by aeroelasticity, is it possible for perceptible
>> yielding to only occur on the last cycle so that the yield pattern
>> only shows the final static failure? The NTSB report did not connect
>> these dots, leading me to believe that the evidence is not conclusive
>> either way.
>>
>> Ihab
>>
>> --
>> Ihab A.B. Awad, Palo Alto, CA
>
>
>Do you have some information that we don't have? I ask because you seem to be
assuming that the FAA missed something. Unless you have some evidence that this
is the case your position as stated above is pure conjecture.
>
>--------
>W.R. "Gig" Giacona
>601XL Under Construction
>See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
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>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=232344#232344
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| Subject: | Wing Skin Build Sequence |
Does anyone know if it's OK to drill the bottom skin to ribs before drilling the
top skins to ribs? Because of my limited space and the order I had my wing
skins stacked it would save me some time. Has anyone actually done them in this
order?
Dan 601xl Dempsey
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Scratch building XL with Corvair Engine
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Skin Build Sequence |
Hi Dan,
As long as the wing skeleton is leveled and jigged in place as Zenith recommends
I don't think it makes a bit of difference. Mine turned out beautifully and
I didn't follow any particular order. Hope this helps.
Debo Cox
Scratchbuilt XL/Corvair
www.mykitlog.com/debo
Do not archive
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From: leinad
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ReplyTo: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Feb 28, 2009 6:11 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Wing Skin Build Sequence
Does anyone know if it's OK to drill the bottom skin to ribs before drilling the
top skins to ribs? Because of my limited space and the order I had my wing
skins stacked it would save me some time. Has anyone actually done them in this
order?
Dan 601xl Dempsey
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Scratch building XL with Corvair Engine
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| Subject: | Re: Absence of Evidence |
Juan, you going to SnF this year? It'll be good to see you again, hear your
stories and drink your beer. Best regards, Bill of Georgia
In a message dated 2/28/2009 5:24:41 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
amyvega2005@earthlink.net writes:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Juan Vega <amyvega2005@earthlink.net>
and elvis is alive in Greenland, married to the alien that landed at aera
51. put it to bed.
do not archive Juan
-----Original Message-----
>From: Gig Giacona <wrgiacona@gmail.com>
>Sent: Feb 27, 2009 3:03 PM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Absence of Evidence
>
>
>
>ihab.awad(at)gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Please don't try to make fun of me or anyone; this doesn't help the
discussion.
>>
>> As far as my reasoning goes, here it is. When an accident is
>> precipitated by aeroelasticity, is it possible for perceptible
>> yielding to only occur on the last cycle so that the yield pattern
>> only shows the final static failure? The NTSB report did not connect
>> these dots, leading me to believe that the evidence is not conclusive
>> either way.
>>
>> Ihab
>>
>> --
>> Ihab A.B. Awad, Palo Alto, CA
>
>
>Do you have some information that we don't have? I ask because you seem to
be assuming that the FAA missed something. Unless you have some evidence that
this is the case your position as stated above is pure conjecture.
>
>--------
>W.R. "Gig" Giacona
>601XL Under Construction
>See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=232344#232344
>
>
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| Subject: | Teflon Tape & Auto Gas |
Jim
Yes Teflon is fine with auto gas, I have depended on it for years and year.
Use it and you won't have any leaks (especially use it with brass fittings).
Some people use it incorrectly, and it sheds and gets caught in the fuel
filter, that's true, But than again anything can be misused I guess.
When you apply it, make sure you wrap it in such a way that when you screw
the treads in it will tighten the Teflon and not unwrap it (this causes the
shedding)
Also, don't wrap the last 2 threads, that will keep it from extruding out of
the threaded area.
Hope this helps !!!!
Roger Hill
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[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James Sagerser
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 2:13 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Teflon Tape & Auto Gas
Does anyone know if Teflon tape is auto gas compatable? I want to install a
brass fitting in a poly gas tank and thought I would use teflon tape as a
sealant for the threads on a barbed hose fitting.. Amy better ideas?
Fitting seem a little loose. Thanks in advance for your reply. Jim
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| Subject: | Re: 601XL Aileron Bellcrank Brace |
Bill,
The structural changes look good.
How's the feel of the controls now, how's it fly?
--------
Ron Lendon, Clinton Township, MI
WW Corvair with Roy's Garage 5th bearing
Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder ;-)
http://www.mykitlog.com/rlendon
Corvair Engine Prints:
http://home.comcast.net/~rlendon/site/
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| Subject: | Re: Teflon Tape & Auto Gas |
Roger,
What you say is true - IF you NEVER take that fitting loose, for any reason.
=C2- If it is taken apart, you WILL get shredded Teflon. The shredded Tefl
on will likely get into a fuel line and eventually make its way to a filter.
=C2- Just don't ask how I am so sure about this.
Jay Bannister
-----Original Message-----
From: Roger & Lina Hill <hills@sunflower.com>
Sent: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 7:12 pm
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Teflon Tape & Auto Gas
Jim
=C2-
Yes Teflon is fine with auto gas, I have
depended on it for years and year.=C2- Use it and you won=99t have a
ny leaks
(especially use it with brass fittings).
Some people use it incorrectly, and it
sheds and gets caught in the fuel filter, that=99s true, But than agai
n
anything can be misused I guess.
=C2-
When you apply it, make sure you wrap it
in such a way that when you screw the treads in it will tighten the Teflon a
nd
not unwrap it (this causes the shedding)
Also, don=99t wrap the last 2 threads,
that will keep it from extruding out of the threaded area.
=C2-
Hope this helps !!!!
=C2-
Roger Hill
=C2-
=C2-
=C2-
=C2-
=C2-
=C2-
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[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James Sagerser
Sent: Saturday,20February 28, 2009
2:13 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Teflon Tape
& Auto Gas
=C2-
Does anyone know if Teflon tape is auto gas compatable?=C2- I want to
install a brass fitting in a poly gas tank and thought I would use teflon ta
pe
as a sealant for the threads on a barbed hose fitting.. =C2- Amy better
ideas?=C2- Fitting seem a little loose.=C2- Thanks in advance for your
reply.=C2- Jim
=C2-
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Skin Build Sequence |
Dan,
I agree with what Debo says. Keep it level length wise and get the angle right.
Fixture the position.
At that point I had two tables and made both right and left skins at the same time.
That way I only had to layout one and pilot drill through two sheets. Having
the structure set right next to the skins layout table made transferring
the measurements to the skins easy.
I know you have limited space but you could lean a couple sheets of plywood against
a wall, and cleco the two aluminum sheets to the plywood for the layout and
pilot drilling of the skins. Think lean to, or a-frame.
--------
Ron Lendon, Clinton Township, MI
WW Corvair with Roy's Garage 5th bearing
Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder ;-)
http://www.mykitlog.com/rlendon
Corvair Engine Prints:
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| Subject: | Teflon Tape & Auto Gas |
Jay and Others;
Yes, when removing existing fittings, always check for contamination from
Teflon, dirt, and shredded rubber (if you're using barbed fittings on
natural rubber hoses).
It's always best to flush the line, fuel or otherwise, after doing any work
which might introduce contamination into the lines.
Fuel filters should be checked (or preferable changed) every 3 months or 50
hours of operation. Having more than one fuel filter is of course
acceptable. I have 3.
One in the gassolator, one before the carb inlet and one built into the carb
inlet (a finger strainer). Also, I have one in the main tank, though it's a
screen really.
Roger
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jaybannist@cs.com
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Teflon Tape & Auto Gas
Roger,
What you say is true - IF you NEVER take that fitting loose, for any reason.
If it is taken apart, you WILL get shredded Teflon. The shredded Teflon will
likely get into a fuel line and eventually make its way to a filter. Just
don't ask how I am so sure about this.
Jay Bannister
-----Original Message-----
From: Roger & Lina Hill <hills@sunflower.com>
Sent: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 7:12 pm
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Teflon Tape & Auto Gas
Jim
Yes Teflon is fine with auto gas, I have depended on it for years and year.
Use it and you won't have any leaks (especially use it with brass fittings).
Some people use it incorrectly, and it sheds and gets caught in the fuel
filter, that's true, But than again anything can be misused I guess.
When you apply it, make sure you wrap it in such a way that when you screw
the treads in it will tighten the Teflon and not unwrap it (this causes the
shedding)
Also, don't wrap the last 2 threads, that will keep it from extruding out of
the threaded area.
Hope this helps !!!!
Roger Hill
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Subject: Zenith-List: Teflon Tape & Auto Gas
Does anyone know if Teflon tape is auto gas compatable? I want to install a
brass fitting in a poly gas tank and thought I would use teflon tape as a
sealant for the threads on a barbed hose fitting.. Amy better ideas?
Fitting seem a little loose. Thanks in advance for your reply. Jim
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