---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 03/03/09: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:27 AM - Re: Re: Y stick problem (Phil Maxson) 2. 03:58 AM - Re: Y stick problem (DaveG601XL) 3. 06:09 AM - Re: Harness?? (Gig Giacona) 4. 07:10 AM - Re: Harness?? (Carlos Sa) 5. 08:18 AM - Formation Flying (Dr. Andrew Elliott) 6. 08:34 AM - Re: Formation Flying (Paul Mulwitz) 7. 09:07 AM - Lightning holes flange dies & sizes (Randy L. Thwing) 8. 03:26 PM - Y Stick Decision (Bill Naumuk) 9. 03:48 PM - Transponder (Bill Naumuk) 10. 04:23 PM - Re: Y Stick Decision (Carlos Sa) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:27:57 AM PST US From: "Phil Maxson " Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Y stick problem I have the standard length Y stick and enjoy it. As most everyone is saying the plane is sensitive to control input particularly in pitch. For that reason, and comfort, I almost always fly with my forearm on the arm rest and grasping the stick below the Y, effectively shortening the stick. I put my hands back on the normal grip area only when I need to use the radio (that's where the PTT button is) or during take off and landing. You should be OK if you shorten it some. Phil Maxson 601XL Northwest New Jersey Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:58:55 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Y stick problem From: "DaveG601XL" You guys have seen others do this, and most AMD's also, take the opportunity to turn the center arm rest into a storage box. Here is mine. The box top pivots towards the passenger seat and allows enough room for my wallet, keys, extra pens, small LED flashlights, etc. The aft portion has a drink holder for a water bottle. When I have my roll axis AP engaged, I too find myself holding the stick just below the Y to control altitude. Love the Y-stick! -------- David Gallagher 601 XL/Jabiru 3300 First flight 7/24/08 Phase I flight test complete 10/16/08 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=232904#232904 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/upholstery_01_167.jpg ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:09:30 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Harness?? From: "Gig Giacona" http://steinair.com/ 1-877-STEINAIR Give Stein a call. [quote="naumuk(at)windstream.net"]All- I need a wiring harness for a King KT76TSO transponder with alt encoder and keep hitting a brick wall trying to find out how to get one, or even exactly what I need. All help or leads appreciated. Bill Naumuk Townville, Pa. HDS 601MG/Corvair 95% > [b] -------- W.R. "Gig" Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=232923#232923 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:10:32 AM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Harness?? From: Carlos Sa Bill, Dr Pahnke reply got supressed, but if I look at the original, I can extract the following URL and text: bomar.biz/download.php?view.1714=22>http://bomar.biz/download.php?view.1714 --------------Boundary-00=_V6GNM1V0I98QBO2LBOAR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Try this. It is a pdf. file of the installation manual for your transponder with harness wiring diagram. You, or an avionics shop should be able to make it.http://bomar.biz/download.php?view.1714 --------------Boundary-00=_V6GNM1V0I98QBO2LBOAR 2009/3/2 Bill Naumuk > All- > I need a wiring harness for a King KT76TSO transponder with alt encoder > and keep hitting a brick wall trying to find out how to get one, or even > exactly what I need. > All help or leads appreciated. > Bill Naumuk > Townville, Pa. > HDS 601MG/Corvair 95% > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:18:26 AM PST US From: "Dr. Andrew Elliott" Subject: Zenith-List: Formation Flying Gang: I am looking to start a formal formation flying program for 601XL/650 aircraft, along the same lines as the existing non-aerobatic program for Grummans as part of FFI (Formation Flying Inc.). FFI is the group that certifies non-warbird demo groups (including RV's) for the FAA. I am looking for experienced formation pilots in the Southwest region (Ex-military is good.) to form a core group to work out the details and re-hone their skills, and who will later help non-experienced pilots learn the best kind of flying there is! I am in the Phoenix area. I have already done a draft 601XL/650 supplement to the T-34 formation flying manual, which forms the basis for all FFI standards and procedures and am working on the briefing guides. I would like interested aviators to reply, stating their interest, aircraft and engine, experience level and whether they would be willing to travel (and how far) for practice clinics. Thanks, Andy Elliott XL/TD/Corvair, ex-USAF IP and FFI carded, anywhere within 1 hop of KFFZ ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:34:38 AM PST US From: Paul Mulwitz Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Formation Flying Hi Andy, I am strongly in favor of all sorts of group flying activities. Formation flying is a mystery to me - the only experience I have with it nearly resulted in a mid-air collision. So, I would greatly appreciate the training/learning part of your program. Paul XL getting close do not archive At 08:15 AM 3/3/2009, you wrote: >I would like interested aviators to reply, stating their interest, >aircraft and engine, experience level and whether they would be >willing to travel (and how far) for practice clinics. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:07:13 AM PST US From: "Randy L. Thwing" Subject: Zenith-List: Lightning holes flange dies & sizes Do not archive Was there a message recently from a Builder seeking to borrow flanging dies? I thought I might have seen one, but can't find it. I have steel dies made to Zenith specs on the 701 plans. They have been altered to also fit within the channels required for 601's. They have been used already by several Listers and are available to be loaned again if needed. They are 65, 95, and 115mm. With the new ZA models, have the lightning hole dimensions remained the same, or are there new sizes? Thanks, Randy, Las Vegas ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:26:51 PM PST US From: "Bill Naumuk" Subject: Zenith-List: Y Stick Decision All- Thanks for your input. I think I'm going to go with the cut down stick. Larry, I decided on the Y stick rather than the dual stick option long ago based on your access information. But, if everyone's holding below the Y anyway and you don't have the ears protruding, so much the better. On top of everything else, it's not like you're limiting controllability on either side. In addition, I don't need the space for my GPS- it's in the porker of a panel I finally got ready to wire. I have no illusions- my project is going to make the scales groan. As long as I can outrun a C150... do not archive Bill Naumuk Townville, Pa. HDS 601MG/Corvair 95% ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 03:48:13 PM PST US From: "Bill Naumuk" Subject: Zenith-List: Transponder All- Thanks for your responses- everything might work out all right. The question is, is there a difference between a King KT76TSO and a KT76A? The King site isn't any help. If anyone has a manual for the KT76TSO, could you scan off the connector portion? I have a lead on the dash A. do not archive Bill Naumuk Townville, Pa. HDS 601MG/Corvair 95% ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 04:23:43 PM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Y Stick Decision From: Carlos Sa Bill, you might want to consider a "convertible" setup: http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601/chcontrols2.htm Cheers Carlos 2009/3/3 Bill Naumuk > All- > Thanks for your input. I think I'm going to go with the cut down stick. > Larry, I decided on the Y stick rather than the dual stick option long > ago based on your access information. But, if everyone's holding below the Y > anyway and you don't have the ears protruding, so much the better. On top of > everything else, it's not like you're limiting controllability on either > side. In addition, I don't need the space for my GPS- it's in the porker of > a panel I finally got ready to wire. I have no illusions- my project is > going to make the scales groan. As long as I can outrun a C150... > do not archive > Bill Naumuk > Townville, Pa. > HDS 601MG/Corvair 95% > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message zenith-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Zenith-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/zenith-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/zenith-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.