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1. 08:21 AM - Re: Chat Reminder For "Digesters" (Patrick Best)
2. 11:34 AM - Re: Seals for wing lockers of 601HDS (Klaus Truemper)
3. 11:44 AM - Re: Chat Reminder For "Digesters" (George Race)
4. 11:44 AM - Chat Room Reminder (George Race)
5. 04:42 PM - Re: Chat Room Reminder (leinad)
6. 07:06 PM - 601 xl for sale (Phillip Pyatt)
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| Subject: | Chat Reminder For "Digesters" |
EST or EDT ;)
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From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-serv
er@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George Race
Sent: March 22, 2009 10:55 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Chat Reminder For "Digesters"
Live Chat Room every Monday evening around 8:00 EST
www.mykitairplane.com<blocked::http://www.mykitairplane.com/>
Click on the link on the page.
George
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| Subject: | Re: Seals for wing lockers of 601HDS |
Hi,
There have been a number of issues raised by my earlier email.
I try to address them below.
*1. If this kind of improvement, have you sealed the metal strip covering the
wing to center section with some kind of sealant? If so, what did you use?
Jerry of Ga.
I did not seal that portion, but this may be another area of improvement.
It would depend on how tightly the strip is installed. In my plane,
there is little gap, even under high angles of attack. But clearly something
to look into.
2. *
*Could you be a bit more specific about that foam tape you used ?? I can think
of
several applications for a tape like that.
Jay Bannister
**The tape is from Home Depot, under weather stripping. The foam material
is white, not black. The latter type cannot be much compressed, but the white
foam material can be compressed almost flat to paper thickness.
3. *
**Very impressive test, and something I had never even heard about, wing
locker leakage affecting performance. Any ideas how those of us with a
flying 601HDS could eliminate the air leak, but still be able to open the
wing lockers normally?
The doors can still be opened just as before. Where the doors touch
the wing, the strip is installed. It attaches only to the door, not the wing.
4. **
**This is a very interesting subject. Back in 2007, Peter Chapman posted a
video showing tuft tests on his HDS providing graphic evidence of
significant lift destroying leaks at the wing locker cover joints. I
believe the video link is still active. Your results nicely confirm the
impressions left by the video. I'm pasting in my response to Peter just below:
Terry
****I have not seen the video.
5. **
**The best approach to keeping leakage to a minimum would first be rigid
angle reinforcement
for the inside edges of the baggage door. The second thing, a well
installed set of Dzus fasteners that
grip the position of the lid at more places than the plans show. In the
link below notice the reinforcement
all round the door and then diagonals that cover the area. This is a
very effective tight fit.
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/wing/baggagearea/full/baggage-door-rear.gif
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/wing/baggagearea/full/luggageopenrear.gif
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
Agree with all of the above. We used the material supplied with the kit,
added Ls to reinforce, bent the edges down a bit, but still had leakage.
For folks in that situation, the seal may be a fast way to solve the
problem.
6. **
**Yesterday I made this video with my 601XL.
http://www.gvtc.com/~ashleyw/index.htm <http://www.gvtc.com/%7Eashleyw/index.htm>
Notice the strings are straight even around and across the rear of the wing
lockers.
At apporx the 35 seconds time on the video, seperation is begining at the
inboard wing root while indicating approx 35KIAS.***
***Floyd Wilkes
601XL
Nice video! Clearly, there is little problem in your case. You must have
a tight seal already, and at any rate, the XL is less susceptible to the
problem than the HDS, which has much lower pressure above the wing.
Happy flying,
Klaus
**
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| Subject: | Chat Reminder For "Digesters" |
8:00 Eastern Daylight Savings Time, guess we could call it just Eastern
Time!
George
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[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Best
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 11:20 AM
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Chat Reminder For "Digesters"
EST or EDT ;)
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From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George Race
Sent: March 22, 2009 10:55 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Chat Reminder For "Digesters"
Live Chat Room every Monday evening around 8:00 EST
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Click on the link on the page.
George
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| Subject: | Chat Room Reminder |
Live Chat Room every Monday evening around 8:00 Eastern Time
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Click on the link on the page.
George
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| Subject: | Re: Chat Room Reminder |
Just a minor correction, it'll be EDT.
Dan Dempsey
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Hello all=2C
I have been a subscriber to this list for awhile=2C I regrettably find myse
lf selling my project.
It is a full kit minus the canopy. Wings finished with nav/strobe/and trim.
Fuselage is in progress=2C I have composite gear for the plane.
I started the kit in August of 2005 and purchased it as individual kits as
I was ready for them.
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Phillip Pyatt
phill_pyatt@hotmail.com
Raytown=2C Mo.
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