Zenith-List Digest Archive

Tue 03/24/09


Total Messages Posted: 6



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     1. 08:07 AM - Fw: Re: Is Your CH601XL/650 a 1320 lb Airplane or a 1041 (Sabrina)
     2. 09:06 AM - Fw: Re: Is Your CH601XL/650 a 1320 lb Airplane or a 1041 (Gig Giacona)
     3. 01:51 PM - EFIS on 701 panel (Clive Richards)
     4. 02:09 PM - Re: EFIS on 701 panel (Gig Giacona)
     5. 02:36 PM - Re: EFIS on 701 panel (Ken Arnold)
     6. 02:49 PM - Re: EFIS on 701 panel (Craig Payne)
 
 
 


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    Time: 08:07:51 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Is Your CH601XL/650 a 1320 lb Airplane or a 1041
    From: "Sabrina" <chicago2paris@msn.com>
    Terry, Do your computer models show, with cables properly tensioned, that the left and right aileron have an inherent dynamic dampening effect since one is heavier than the other (trim tab motor) and one is up when the other is down? Do your computer models show, with loose cables and flying too fast, that the heavy left aileron starts a flutter that takes the left wing off first? Could you run a simulation re: a small drag strip on the lower portion of the left aileron (easily attached to the trim access panel plate or the plate itself with a new lip) to see if that would aerodynamically balance the left aileron in a low/no tension scenario as one approached flutter speed? I think you know my final two questions: does your computer model show that aileron trim should be deployed during a flutter onset scenario and if so, which way? Is there an aileron trim situation (up/down) that contributes to flutter? Thanking you in advance, Sabrina Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=235962#235962


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    Time: 09:06:41 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Is Your CH601XL/650 a 1320 lb Airplane or a 1041
    From: "Gig Giacona" <wrgiacona@gmail.com>
    psm(at)att.net wrote: > Actually, that is not even close to a true statement. > > The LSA definition calls for a maximum indicated (actually > calibrated) airspeed of 138 mph at sea level and maximum continuous > power. Actually that isn't even what the definition calls for 138 mph at sea level in level flight at maximum continuous power. So let's say max power on a plane is 3200 rpm and at that speed I get 145 mph CAS at sea level. If I, as the builder, say that max continuous power is 2800 and that rpm gives me 138 mph at sea level, I'm LSA legal. -------- W.R. &quot;Gig&quot; Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=235975#235975


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    Time: 01:51:04 PM PST US
    From: "Clive Richards" <s.clive.richards@homecall.co.uk>
    Subject: EFIS on 701 panel
    Hi all Considering a 701 panel layout it looks like an Enigma is small enough to fit but a voyage would be to big. Any one flying with an Enigma or other EFIS in a 701 if so are you happy with its performance ? Clive do not archive


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    Time: 02:09:33 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: EFIS on 701 panel
    From: "Gig Giacona" <wrgiacona@gmail.com>
    Have you looked at the Dynon? -------- W.R. &quot;Gig&quot; Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=236016#236016


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    Time: 02:36:26 PM PST US
    From: "Ken Arnold" <arno7452@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: EFIS on 701 panel
    Clive, I have Dynon D-100 that I'm very pleased with. Futures if desired, include auto pilot from Dynon. Ken CH701 912ULS N701LK do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Clive Richards To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 4:49 PM Subject: Zenith-List: EFIS on 701 panel Hi all Considering a 701 panel layout it looks like an Enigma is small enough to fit but a voyage would be to big. Any one flying with an Enigma or other EFIS in a 701 if so are you happy with its performance ? Clive do not archive


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    Time: 02:49:50 PM PST US
    From: "Craig Payne" <craig@craigandjean.com>
    Subject: EFIS on 701 panel
    I'm not flying yet but a Voyager fits in my 701 panel. Pictures attached. I have seen a few 701s with Enigmas. I believe Gus Warren's Corvair-powered 701 is one of them. The attached pictures with the black panel are Gus's 701. I don't recall where I saw the other one, perhaps the Zenith site. BTW: if you haven't already you might consider joining the MGL user-to-user group on Yahoo and asking your question there. Among the 700+ members are the head and chief designer of MGL (Rainier), his second in command (Nicol) and most of the world-wide dealers: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/stratomaster_users_group -- Craig From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Clive Richards Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 2:49 PM Subject: Zenith-List: EFIS on 701 panel Hi all Considering a 701 panel layout it looks like an Enigma is small enough to fit but a voyage would be to big. Any one flying with an Enigma or other EFIS in a 701 if so are you happy with its performance ? Clive do not archive




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