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1. 06:41 AM - Re: Corvair (Brady)
2. 09:04 AM - Re: Corvair (Bob Percival)
3. 09:10 AM - CONTACTORS (AZFlyer)
4. 09:14 AM - Re: Corvair (Gig Giacona)
5. 09:26 AM - Re: CONTACTORS (Gig Giacona)
6. 09:28 AM - Re: CONTACTORS (Paul Mulwitz)
7. 09:43 AM - Re: Corvair (messydeer)
8. 12:12 PM - Re: CONTACTORS (fred sanford)
9. 01:28 PM - Has your bubble canopy fogged up????? (Thruster87)
10. 02:44 PM - Toggle switches (Bill Naumuk)
11. 03:02 PM - Re: Corvair (annken100)
12. 03:11 PM - Re: Corvair (Lawrence Webber)
13. 03:23 PM - Re: Toggle switches (Paul Mulwitz)
14. 03:33 PM - Re: Toggle switches (Bob Collins)
15. 04:30 PM - Re: Has your bubble canopy fogged up????? (Bryan Martin)
16. 04:33 PM - Re: Has your bubble canopy fogged up????? (LarryMcFarland)
17. 04:39 PM - Re: Toggle switches (Bryan Martin)
18. 05:04 PM - Re: Toggle switches (Craig Payne)
19. 05:13 PM - Re: Toggle switches (Bill Naumuk)
20. 05:21 PM - Carpet (Bill Naumuk)
21. 05:35 PM - Re: Carpet (jaybannist@cs.com)
22. 05:50 PM - Re: Carpet (LarryMcFarland)
23. 06:18 PM - Re: Carpet (George Race)
24. 06:18 PM - Re: Corvair (messydeer)
25. 06:36 PM - Re: Carpet (Roger & Lina Hill)
26. 07:40 PM - Re: Re: Corvair (ROBERT SCEPPA)
27. 08:23 PM - Re: Re: Corvair (Craig Payne)
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Dan,
Greetings and welcome to the Corvair Community!
I am certain you will be very happy with your choice of the Corvair as your power
plant.
I would be more than happy to build your engine for you if that is what you are
looking for.
Or if you prefer to assemble it your self I would be happy to put a kit engine
together for you.
I have nearly 30 Core engines here at my shop that I use as parts donors.
I have my own private label of custom forged pistons made right here in the USA.
I am also having new 4340 crankshafts manufactured as well as new 4340 Connecting
rods.
Our Aluminum / Nikasil Cylinders are still in the research & development stage
but they have great promise to lighten the engine by 18 pounds!
We also have other products and services available to help you realize your aviation
dreams.
If you are interested or even just curious, please see my website.
www.magnificentmachine.com
You will always have our support.
Best Wishes,
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Brady McCormick
Poulsbo, WA
www.magnificentmachine.com
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Dan,
I suggest you join the corvaircraft mail list:
http://mylist.net/listinfo/corvaircraft
Regards
Bob Percival
701/Vair
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[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of messydeer
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 12:08 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Corvair
Hello!
I'm considering powering my bird with a Corvair engine. I have limited
experience rebuilding engines (replaced a Subie head gasket once) and
would have an experienced Corvair builder do this for me. I would not
provide the cadaver or any organs.
To save money, I would be comfortable in assembling some of the engine
myself.
Look forward to hearing your experiences, suggestions, and references.
Cheers,
Dan
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List,
Have the 3300 with FWF kit from Jab.USA. Have been reading everything I can find
on "contactors" ( AeroElectric, various Matronics lists, etc.). Do not understand
most of it... so, my question is: Do I need to add one or more "Contactor"
to my installation?
I am not an EE, nor much of an electrician...just trying to understand what the
Contactor might buy me. Planning an all-glass panel, if that makes any difference?
Please don't throw electrical theory at me...I'm just looking for a simple explanation
why I should or should not consider putting contactors on. If so, which
one?
Thanks,
Mike
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Mike Miller @ millrml@aol.com
601 XL, 3300, Dynon
Remember, "the second mouse gets the cheese"!
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Hi Dan,
I assume you have found www.flycorvair.com ?
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W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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To answer your primary question, probably.
My advice, as someone who had little to no clue about electrical wiring before
I started and not much more 3/4th of the way through, is find the aeroelectric
schematic from Bob's book that fits your needs and start with that. If the one
you choose uses a contactor use it if it uses 2 use them.
If you find you need to make a change to one of the planes post it on the aeroelectric
forum and then expect them to tell you everything you did wrong which
will include things that you didn't add or take away from the original design.
Or you can do what I did which is find someone with the same engine and pretty
much the same stuff in the panel and pester him until he makes you copies of his
plans and then put his cell and home phone numbers into your cell phone and
call him at all hours of the day and ask him questions that anyone that ever
turned on a light bulb really should already know. Be aware that there is some
limit to the size of steak you will owe this person mainly because cows, even
in Texas, only grow so large.
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W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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Hi Mike,
Yes, you need a contactor. I bought the one from Aircraft Spruce. I
probably have the same setup as you - XL with 3300 and FWF from Jabiru USA.
The contactor is a big switch that turns all the power on and off for
your electrical system. It is the thing your master switch
connects to. You can't just connect the battery power to the master
switch and forget it because of the large current rating needed. So,
instead, you use the contactor to control all the power and the
master switch to control the contactor.
A contactor is similar to a starter solenoid. The difference is the
starter solenoid is designed for short term use - while running the
starter motor, but the contactor is designed to be on for hours at a time.
Have fun,
Paul
XL getting very close
At 09:10 AM 4/4/2009, you wrote:
>Have the 3300 with FWF kit from Jab.USA. Have been reading
>everything I can find on "contactors" ( AeroElectric, various
>Matronics lists, etc.). Do not understand most of it... so, my
>question is: Do I need to add one or more "Contactor" to my installation?
>
>I am not an EE, nor much of an electrician...just trying to
>understand what the Contactor might buy me. Planning an all-glass
>panel, if that makes any difference?
>
>Please don't throw electrical theory at me...I'm just looking for a
>simple explanation why I should or should not consider putting
>contactors on. If so, which one?
>
>Thanks,
>Mike
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Thanks Gig, Bob, and Brady :-)
I've been briefly to Brady's site and more extensively at WW's. I'll be looking
to get some of his manuals/dvd's soon. Subscribed yesterday to corvaircraft.
Got the confirm email from them yesterday. Setup a username and PW, but can't
get in. Maybe I have to wait to be approved. Also signed up for the Yahoo group,
but am also waiting for them.
Cheers,
Dan
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Hi Mike.
I choose not to use contactors.
The main reason to have one is that in the event of a crash, you can
disconnect all electricity from the cabin with the flip of one switch.
I use a 30 amp switch-circuit breaker on the panel, so when I have it
off, there is still power on the wire from the battery to the switch. To
be a problem, this wire would have to be cut into and shorted to ground
to spark and ignite gas vapors. Pretty far-fetched.
With a contactor, the battery area still has power, and gas vapors.
Have never been able to figure why all of those planes are flying around
with all of that extra weight..........................Fred
Sanford.....N9701 N9601
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| Subject: | Has your bubble canopy fogged up????? |
Has anyone experienced fogging up of your bubble canopy during flight???? Looking
at putting a air supply to the front of the canopy to minimize the chance of
loosing visibility. Thanks
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Just making sure. On an SPST toggle switch, the center terminal is
hot and the top terminal is switched, right?
Bill Naumuk
Townville, Pa.
HDS 601MG/Corvair 95%
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Dan,
Depending on where you live, you might want to consider attending Corvair College 14 in Lowell, MA. William Wynne will be there along with several Corvair enthusiasts. It is a good way to learn about the Corvair. For more info visit www.aerovair.com and follow the links to Corvair College 14.
Ken Pavlou
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601 XL / Corvair
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Welcome Dan where do you live ? what state?
Larry
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> Subject: Zenith-List: Corvair
> From: messydeer@yahoo.com
> Date: Fri=2C 3 Apr 2009 23:07:35 -0700
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
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> Hello!
>
> I'm considering powering my bird with a Corvair engine. I have limited ex
perience rebuilding engines (replaced a Subie head gasket once) and would h
ave an experienced Corvair builder do this for me. I would not provide the
cadaver or any organs.
>
> To save money=2C I would be comfortable in assembling some of the engine
myself.
>
> Look forward to hearing your experiences=2C suggestions=2C and references
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> Cheers=2C
> Dan
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| Subject: | Re: Toggle switches |
Hi Bill,
An SPST switch only has two contacts. They can be treated the
same. They are either connected or not.
Paul
XL getting close
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At 02:41 PM 4/4/2009, you wrote:
>All-
> Just making sure. On an SPST toggle switch, the center terminal
> is hot and the top terminal is switched, right?
>Bill Naumuk
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| Subject: | Re: Toggle switches |
Hi Bill,
A SPST (single pole, single throw) switch only has two terminals. My
guess, assuming you have a three terminal switch, is that you have in
your hand a SPDT switch. The best way to fully understand its operation
is to use a multimeter and investigate its function in all switch
positions. There...just enough to be dangerous!
Bob Collins
Sunnyvale CA USA
Bill Naumuk wrote:
> All-
> Just making sure. On an SPST toggle switch, the center terminal is
> hot and the top terminal is switched, right?
> Bill Naumuk
> Townville, Pa.
> HDS 601MG/Corvair 95%
> *
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>
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| Subject: | Re: Has your bubble canopy fogged up????? |
I've had it fog up on the ground before the engine warms up enough to
make the cabin heater effective. I have a cabin heat system that uses
hot water from the cooling system. It includes two air vents on the
dash to blow heated air on the front of the canopy. I would definitely
recommend including a windshield defogger vent in your cabin heat
system.
On Apr 4, 2009, at 4:24 PM, Thruster87 wrote:
> >
>
> Has anyone experienced fogging up of your bubble canopy during
> flight???? Looking at putting a air supply to the front of the
> canopy to minimize the chance of loosing visibility. Thanks
>
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Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL,
RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
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| Subject: | Re: Has your bubble canopy fogged up????? |
Hi Alan,
I've experienced this and probably every other 601 owner has as well.
The one quickest way to clear the canopy of fog
is a microfiber towel. These will not hurt your plexi and are
recommended for cleaning and polishing the canopy. They
are found in rolled packs at Farm and Fleet and can be washed without
loosing their protective qualities.
I keep one on my back shelf for just that fog occasion. It's quicker
than anything.
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
Thruster87 wrote:
>
> Has anyone experienced fogging up of your bubble canopy during flight???? Looking
at putting a air supply to the front of the canopy to minimize the chance
of loosing visibility. Thanks
>
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| Subject: | Re: Toggle switches |
For a SPST switch, the power comes in on one terminal and and out the
other when the switch is on. As far as functioning is concerned, it
really doesn't matter which terminal the wire are hooked to, the
switch will function the same. For a DT switch, the center terminal is
usually the common terminal and the hot wire is connected there. Just
for the sake of uniformity, to make troubleshooting easier at some
future date, it's a good idea to connect the hot wire to the center
terminal on both types of switch.
On Apr 4, 2009, at 5:41 PM, Bill Naumuk wrote:
> All-
> Just making sure. On an SPST toggle switch, the center terminal
> is hot and the top terminal is switched, right?
> Bill Naumuk
> Townville, Pa.
> HDS 601MG/Corvair 95%
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SPST? A SPST switch only has two terminals so it doesn't matter what way you
wire it. A SPDT (D for "double") has a center terminal and two outer
terminals. The common "pole" is the center terminal. But use an Ohm meter or
test lamp to check which of the outer terminals is connected to the center
pole for which position of the toggle. Depending n the switch's mechanical
internals it can be the side the handle is on or the opposite.
-- Craig
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Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 3:41 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Toggle switches
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Just making sure. On an SPST toggle switch, the center terminal is hot
and the top terminal is switched, right?
Bill Naumuk
Townville, Pa.
HDS 601MG/Corvair 95%
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| Subject: | Re: Toggle switches |
No, it's only two terminal. I'm just doing a final review of my wiring
before mounting the panel. No big deal, if the terminals work the other way
I'll just pull the connectors off and reverse them.
Bill
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Collins" <bobcollins42@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Toggle switches
>
> Hi Bill,
> A SPST (single pole, single throw) switch only has two terminals. My
> guess, assuming you have a three terminal switch, is that you have in your
> hand a SPDT switch. The best way to fully understand its operation is to
> use a multimeter and investigate its function in all switch positions.
> There...just enough to be dangerous!
>
> Bob Collins
> Sunnyvale CA USA
>
>
> Bill Naumuk wrote:
>> All-
>> Just making sure. On an SPST toggle switch, the center terminal is
>> hot and the top terminal is switched, right?
>> Bill Naumuk
>> Townville, Pa.
>> HDS 601MG/Corvair 95%
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Any leads on lightweight carpet? I intend to install with Velcro.
Bill Naumuk
Townville, Pa.
HDS 601MG/Corvair 95%
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Bill,
I got my carpet, upholstery fabric, polyboard and polyfoam from Airtex Products,
Inc.? They are in your neck of the woods - Fallsington, PA.? Phone 215-295-4417.?
All products are approved for use in airplanes.
Jay Bannister
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Sent: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 7:14 pm
Subject: Zenith-List: Carpet
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??? Any leads on lightweight carpet?
I intend to install with Velcro.
Bill Naumuk
Townville, Pa.
HDS 601MG/Corvair
95%
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Hi Bill,
I used a thin lightweight carpet that can be used outdoors and it was
glued to
the 1/2-inch soundproofing on the floor. That really made a considerable
noise
reduction having the soundproofing on sides firewall and floor. I've
since put
soundproofing on the outside of the firewall too, but my engine is a cooler
element within the cowling. Don't think that would work for air cooled
engines.
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
Bill Naumuk wrote:
> All-
> Any leads on lightweight carpet? I intend to install with Velcro.
> Bill Naumuk
> Townville, Pa.
> HDS 601MG/Corvair 95%
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Bill:
I found very light weight indoor/outdoor carpet at Menards Lumber Yard.
Very nice, easy to fold and cut, comes in light blue and grey. Very
reasonable price.
George
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Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 8:14 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Carpet
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Any leads on lightweight carpet? I intend to install with Velcro.
Bill Naumuk
Townville, Pa.
HDS 601MG/Corvair 95%
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Bellingham, MA is about 50 miles from Lowell. I live in Bellingham, WA, about 50,000
miles from Lowell. Oh, well...
It would be nice to go to one of those things, though.
Dan
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Dan
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Ya, just go to your local hardware store. Ask to see the outdoor carpet.
It's polypropylene (I believe) and is very light, easy to cut and glue and
has a dense weave and is tough to boot.
Roger
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[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Naumuk
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 7:14 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Carpet
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Any leads on lightweight carpet? I intend to install with Velcro.
Bill Naumuk
Townville, Pa.
HDS 601MG/Corvair 95%
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> Oh well, thats a shame. However I am going to attend that seminar, if I
> can be of help to you, I would be glad to to give you any updates or
> things you should know to get you started. I see that you are going to
> get William Wynes manuals, thats a good start. Well you keep asking the
> questions on the here and good luck.....Do Not atchive
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> Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Corvair
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Date: Sunday, April 5, 2009, 2:16 AM
> "messydeer" <messydeer@yahoo.com>
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> Bellingham, MA is about 50 miles from Lowell. I live in
> Bellingham, WA, about 50,000 miles from Lowell. Oh, well...
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> It would be nice to go to one of those things, though.
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> Dan
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Well, Brady is only about 90 miles away in Poulsbo, WA (although Seattle is
in the way). He has had his Corvair running. I don't know if it is on his
test stand or his plane right now.
http://www.magnificentmachine.com
-- Craig
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From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of messydeer
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 7:17 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Corvair
Bellingham, MA is about 50 miles from Lowell. I live in Bellingham, WA,
about 50,000 miles from Lowell. Oh, well...
It would be nice to go to one of those things, though.
Dan
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