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     1. 02:47 AM - Re: Seat pan (Gary Ray)
     2. 03:19 AM - Aileron Trim Tab Length (Darryl Legg)
     3. 05:52 AM - Re: Aileron Trim Tab Length (pavel569)
     4. 11:05 AM - Re: Seat pan (George Swinford)
     5. 12:26 PM - Re: Need help with solid rivets. (AZFlyer)
     6. 12:52 PM - Emailing: 100_2883 (wade jones)
     7. 01:48 PM - Chat Room Reminder (George Race)
     8. 11:23 PM - Re: Aileron Trim Tab Length (Darryl Legg)
 
 
 
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      You could install the rear of the seat pan on a hinge and have an 
      adjustable seat height with two or three mating hinge halves mounted on 
      the rear seat support.
      I have seen it done this way somewhere but I had already 
      done mine and have not tried it myself yet.
      Inserting the hinge pin may be easier if it is done thru an access hole 
      in the center console from the other passenger bay since the console is 
      in the way to insert a long straight hinge pin.
      
      Gary Ray 
      601XL,  WW Corvair 0.060 over
      davgray@sbcglobal.net
      
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Peter Chapman 
        To: zenith-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 10:43 PM
        Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Seat pan
      
      
        At 10:32 12-04-09, you wrote:
      
              The HDS plans call for a height of 10-30mm from the floor to the 
      seat pan to allow for differing amounts of headroom. I'm the industry 
      average 5' 10". What height would work best?
      
        I'm 6'1" and went for the 10 mm on both sides. Then for whichever seat 
      pan where someone shorter is sitting, I made an up to 2" (?) thick 
      filler piece sculpted to the curve of the pan, made out of hard 
      insulation board foam. It's light weight and won't compress, unlike if 
      one just stuffs cushions in or puts in extra layers of heavy Confor 
      foam. The upholstered seat pan foam then can either sit down in the pan 
      or on top of the filler piece. 
      
        My dad and I also bought Peltor headsets, which don't have thick 
      cushions on top  or big adjustment slides sticking up above the ear 
      cups. That's handy for extra head room, especially if one leans 
      outboard, head against the canopy, to get a better view past the nose, 
      such as when the nose is high in the flare.
                                          
      
        Peter Chapman
        Toronto, ON           601 HDS  /  912  /  C-GZDC 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Aileron Trim Tab Length | 
      
      
      Hi All,
      Have just installed aileron trim to left aileron, following plans, but supplied
      parts were different, resulting in trim tab being longer than aileron by 10mm.
      Is this a problem or not? Hoping not..........
      Darryl. [Rolling Eyes]
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=238881#238881
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Aileron Trim Tab Length | 
      
      
      Hi Darryl,
      the trim tab has to be even with the trailing edge of aileron. You have to make
      the cut out deeper into the aileron to make it fit.
      
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      Pavel 
      CA
      Zodiac XL N581PL (Reserved)
      Stratus Subaru EA-81
      Tail, flaps, ailerons, wings done, fuselage is on the table ....
      
      
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      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=238892#238892
      
      
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      The Ercoupe seat pan was attached with a hinge.  It is good to have 
      access to the area under the pan.  Sooner or later, small objects will 
      slip thru the gaps on the side of the pan.  Dirt accumulates under 
      there, too.  Ercoupe experience speaking.
      
      It would be best to use an extruded hinge, since downward crash loads 
      might fail the rolled tangs on the hinge that Zenith supplies.
      
      George
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Gary Ray 
        To: zenith-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 2:45 AM
        Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Seat pan
      
      
        You could install the rear of the seat pan on a hinge and have an 
      adjustable seat height with two or three mating hinge halves mounted on 
      the rear seat support.
        I have seen it done this way somewhere but I had already 
        done mine and have not tried it myself yet.
        Inserting the hinge pin may be easier if it is done thru an access 
      hole in the center console from the other passenger bay since the 
      console is in the way to insert a long straight hinge pin.
      
        Gary Ray 
        601XL,  WW Corvair 0.060 over
        davgray@sbcglobal.net
      
          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Peter Chapman 
          To: zenith-list@matronics.com 
          Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 10:43 PM
          Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Seat pan
      
      
          At 10:32 12-04-09, you wrote:
      
                The HDS plans call for a height of 10-30mm from the floor to 
      the seat pan to allow for differing amounts of headroom. I'm the 
      industry average 5' 10". What height would work best?
      
          I'm 6'1" and went for the 10 mm on both sides. Then for whichever 
      seat pan where someone shorter is sitting, I made an up to 2" (?) thick 
      filler piece sculpted to the curve of the pan, made out of hard 
      insulation board foam. It's light weight and won't compress, unlike if 
      one just stuffs cushions in or puts in extra layers of heavy Confor 
      foam. The upholstered seat pan foam then can either sit down in the pan 
      or on top of the filler piece. 
      
          My dad and I also bought Peltor headsets, which don't have thick 
      cushions on top  or big adjustment slides sticking up above the ear 
      cups. That's handy for extra head room, especially if one leans 
      outboard, head against the canopy, to get a better view past the nose, 
      such as when the nose is high in the flare.
                                            
      
          Peter Chapman
          Toronto, ON           601 HDS  /  912  /  C-GZDC 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Need help with solid rivets. | 
      
      
      You need to buy a "Rivet cutter" and cut those rivets down with some experimenting.
      I use solid rivets to install nutplates, and have to cut those little rivets
      down halfway between what ZAC sent and what I bought from ACS.
      
      Good Luck,
      Mike
      
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      Mike Miller @ millrml@aol.com
      601 XL, 3300, Dynon
      
      Remember,  "the second mouse gets the cheese"!
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Aileron Trim Tab Length | 
      
      
      Thank you Pavel, have corrected my error.
      Darryl
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      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=239056#239056
      
      
 
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