---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 04/13/09: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:47 AM - Re: Seat pan (Gary Ray) 2. 03:19 AM - Aileron Trim Tab Length (Darryl Legg) 3. 05:52 AM - Re: Aileron Trim Tab Length (pavel569) 4. 11:05 AM - Re: Seat pan (George Swinford) 5. 12:26 PM - Re: Need help with solid rivets. (AZFlyer) 6. 12:52 PM - Emailing: 100_2883 (wade jones) 7. 01:48 PM - Chat Room Reminder (George Race) 8. 11:23 PM - Re: Aileron Trim Tab Length (Darryl Legg) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:47:56 AM PST US From: "Gary Ray" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Seat pan You could install the rear of the seat pan on a hinge and have an adjustable seat height with two or three mating hinge halves mounted on the rear seat support. I have seen it done this way somewhere but I had already done mine and have not tried it myself yet. Inserting the hinge pin may be easier if it is done thru an access hole in the center console from the other passenger bay since the console is in the way to insert a long straight hinge pin. Gary Ray 601XL, WW Corvair 0.060 over davgray@sbcglobal.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Chapman To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 10:43 PM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Seat pan At 10:32 12-04-09, you wrote: The HDS plans call for a height of 10-30mm from the floor to the seat pan to allow for differing amounts of headroom. I'm the industry average 5' 10". What height would work best? I'm 6'1" and went for the 10 mm on both sides. Then for whichever seat pan where someone shorter is sitting, I made an up to 2" (?) thick filler piece sculpted to the curve of the pan, made out of hard insulation board foam. It's light weight and won't compress, unlike if one just stuffs cushions in or puts in extra layers of heavy Confor foam. The upholstered seat pan foam then can either sit down in the pan or on top of the filler piece. My dad and I also bought Peltor headsets, which don't have thick cushions on top or big adjustment slides sticking up above the ear cups. That's handy for extra head room, especially if one leans outboard, head against the canopy, to get a better view past the nose, such as when the nose is high in the flare. Peter Chapman Toronto, ON 601 HDS / 912 / C-GZDC ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:19:08 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Aileron Trim Tab Length From: "Darryl Legg" Hi All, Have just installed aileron trim to left aileron, following plans, but supplied parts were different, resulting in trim tab being longer than aileron by 10mm. Is this a problem or not? Hoping not.......... Darryl. [Rolling Eyes] Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=238881#238881 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:52:36 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Aileron Trim Tab Length From: "pavel569" Hi Darryl, the trim tab has to be even with the trailing edge of aileron. You have to make the cut out deeper into the aileron to make it fit. -------- Pavel CA Zodiac XL N581PL (Reserved) Stratus Subaru EA-81 Tail, flaps, ailerons, wings done, fuselage is on the table .... Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=238892#238892 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:05:47 AM PST US From: "George Swinford" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Seat pan The Ercoupe seat pan was attached with a hinge. It is good to have access to the area under the pan. Sooner or later, small objects will slip thru the gaps on the side of the pan. Dirt accumulates under there, too. Ercoupe experience speaking. It would be best to use an extruded hinge, since downward crash loads might fail the rolled tangs on the hinge that Zenith supplies. George ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary Ray To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 2:45 AM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Seat pan You could install the rear of the seat pan on a hinge and have an adjustable seat height with two or three mating hinge halves mounted on the rear seat support. I have seen it done this way somewhere but I had already done mine and have not tried it myself yet. Inserting the hinge pin may be easier if it is done thru an access hole in the center console from the other passenger bay since the console is in the way to insert a long straight hinge pin. Gary Ray 601XL, WW Corvair 0.060 over davgray@sbcglobal.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Chapman To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 10:43 PM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Seat pan At 10:32 12-04-09, you wrote: The HDS plans call for a height of 10-30mm from the floor to the seat pan to allow for differing amounts of headroom. I'm the industry average 5' 10". What height would work best? I'm 6'1" and went for the 10 mm on both sides. Then for whichever seat pan where someone shorter is sitting, I made an up to 2" (?) thick filler piece sculpted to the curve of the pan, made out of hard insulation board foam. It's light weight and won't compress, unlike if one just stuffs cushions in or puts in extra layers of heavy Confor foam. The upholstered seat pan foam then can either sit down in the pan or on top of the filler piece. My dad and I also bought Peltor headsets, which don't have thick cushions on top or big adjustment slides sticking up above the ear cups. That's handy for extra head room, especially if one leans outboard, head against the canopy, to get a better view past the nose, such as when the nose is high in the flare. Peter Chapman Toronto, ON 601 HDS / 912 / C-GZDC href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:26:05 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Need help with solid rivets. From: "AZFlyer" You need to buy a "Rivet cutter" and cut those rivets down with some experimenting. I use solid rivets to install nutplates, and have to cut those little rivets down halfway between what ZAC sent and what I bought from ACS. Good Luck, Mike -------- Mike Miller @ millrml@aol.com 601 XL, 3300, Dynon Remember, "the second mouse gets the cheese"! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=238989#238989 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:52:58 PM PST US From: "wade jones" Subject: Zenith-List: Emailing: 100_2883 Hello group ,not Zenith related however I wanted to share my latest picture of my 32 year old Sonerai with you . A friend just painted my wings and I just returned from his strip to my strip .I am still plugging along with my 601XL .Ed Sterba is building my prop and I just installed the starter on the Franklin engine (was very hard to locate). DO NOT ARCHIVE The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments: 100_2883 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:48:06 PM PST US From: "George Race" Subject: Zenith-List: Chat Room Reminder Live Chat Room every Monday evening around 8:00 EDT www.mykitairplane.com Click on the link on the page. George Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:23:01 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Aileron Trim Tab Length From: "Darryl Legg" Thank you Pavel, have corrected my error. Darryl do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=239056#239056 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message zenith-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Zenith-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/zenith-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/zenith-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.