---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 04/29/09: 22 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:53 AM - Re: Landing mistake (n801bh@netzero.com) 2. 04:44 AM - Re: Re: BSR Chute (Trevor Jennings) 3. 05:39 AM - Re: Re: BSR Chute (Jay Maynard) 4. 06:12 AM - Re: bushings (Gig Giacona) 5. 06:12 AM - moderator needed? () 6. 06:17 AM - Re: BSR Chute (Gig Giacona) 7. 06:17 AM - BRS decision () 8. 06:26 AM - Re: bushings (Bill Steer) 9. 06:40 AM - Re: bushings (Jeyoung65@aol.com) 10. 06:41 AM - Re: Whatever happened to Subies (Tim Shankland) 11. 06:52 AM - Re: Still Have 601 HD/XL Tail Parts for Sale (wade jones) 12. 07:07 AM - Re: bushings (JohnDRead@aol.com) 13. 07:17 AM - Re: Whatever happened to Subies (Rick Lindstrom) 14. 08:05 AM - Re: Re: BSR Chute (steve) 15. 08:17 AM - Re: Re: BSR Chute (steve) 16. 09:24 AM - Re: BSR Chute (Gary Gower) 17. 12:46 PM - Re: BSR Chute (cookwithgas) 18. 02:11 PM - Re: Whatever happened to Subies (n801bh@netzero.com) 19. 03:59 PM - Connector swap? (Bill Naumuk) 20. 08:04 PM - bushings - tx (Carlos Sa) 21. 10:10 PM - XL Cable tension specs - not on my plans! (Aaron) 22. 11:05 PM - Re: XL Cable tension specs - not on my plans! (Aaron) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:53:46 AM PST US From: "n801bh@netzero.com" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Landing mistake Yup. samething happens to me too. My best landings are when there is not a soul for 10 miles to witness it... do not archive Ben Haas N801BH www.haaspowerair.com ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Dan Wilde Subject: Zenith-List: Landing mistake Last Saturday I took my wife to Los Banos for lunch. We took off from our 900 foot strip (701) and headed south. It was quite bumpy down low so we powered up to 3500' and it was nice. Since Los Banos is only 30 minutes away, even in a 701 we were quickly descending back into the rough air to set up for landing. On downwind we noticed there was no one around at all at the airport. No planes, humans or dogs. I turned base and final and set up for the landing. We came over the numbers and the plane started settling down. I started my flair and felt nothing. No chirp, no bump, nothing until the nose wheel settled down. This was my best landing ever and there was no one there to see it except my wife and she did not think it was a big deal! Of course my next landing will be in front of a lot of people and it will likely be a real thumper. Dan Wilde N948DW ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ____________________________________________________________ Be your own boss today with Contractor Training. Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/fc/BLSrjpYbjI9qSoQPq008tyk8X Dv6zorts6utHV4eIKOZf1RhZVEgPtS1is4/ ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:44:35 AM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: BSR Chute From: Trevor Jennings Also, just out of curiosity, how much did it cost to install the BRS chute? Cheers, - Trevor On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 12:47 AM, Stanley Challgren wrote: > > Scott: > > I had never really considered a chute until I saw your picture showing it > weighed 18.8 pounds. BRS's July 2008 price list shows a 1350 having BRS > system weights from 29 to 34 pounds. Do you have the softpact? > > Stan > 701/3300 > > > On Apr 28, 2009, at 22:05 , cookwithgas wrote: > >> >> Common you guys! You are killing me with all this BAD INFORMATION! You >> guys throw numbers around like you are experts and you don't have a clue! I >> don't intend to offend anyone personally but some of you guys need a reality >> check. Here's a picture of my BRS pack on a scale: >> >> http://www.cooknwithgas.com/10_28_06_BRS_Weight.JPG >> >> 18.8 lbs. Clearly not 40 lbs in the back of the airplane! The gold thing >> is less than a pound and all of the other parts barely weigh 9 lbs. much of >> it in the front of the airplane. >> >> This picture has been on my website since October of 2006 as you can see >> from the file name. Seriously guys - this list has come to a bunch of guys >> throwing around numbers and opinions based on NOTHING but speculation and >> blah blah blah. Get out there and work on your airplane or go fly it, then >> come back and report something or ask a valid question. All this bad info >> on this list needs to stop. Some of you guys seem to have to reply to every >> post even if you have NO IDEA what you are talking about! Can we use a >> little restraint here until we have something factual or useful to post? >> >> Sorry for the rant, but I don't see any more posts from the guys that know >> because they have been chased away by a bunch of Yahoos with nothing better >> to do but spread bad info. Most of those guys are too nice to say anything >> and just fade away for good reason. I just see the wrong kind of >> speculation and just plane bad information here anymore. >> >> Have a good evening, >> >> Scott Laughlin >> 601XL/Corvair >> Omaha >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=241842#241842 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:39:04 AM PST US From: Jay Maynard Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: BSR Chute On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 09:05:10PM -0700, cookwithgas wrote: > This picture has been on my website since October of 2006 as you can see > from the file name. Seriously guys - this list has come to a bunch of > guys throwing around numbers and opinions based on NOTHING but speculation > and blah blah blah. The 40 pound difference I've been citing was a number I got straight from AMD. *I* am not the one who said the weight was all in the back, either. If I'm speculating, I'll say so. I wasn't. I was going on what I believed to be reliable information. The way to counter bad information is to post reliable information, not to simply flame people for saying what they believe to be true. -- Jay Maynard, K5ZC, PP-ASEL, AGI http://www.conmicro.com http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net Fairmont, MN (KFRM) (Yes, that's me!) AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC http://www.tronguy.net/N55ZC.shtml ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:12:14 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: bushings From: "Gig Giacona" I don't know if they have exactly what you need but I came across a bunch of bushings at Wicks. -------- W.R. "Gig" Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=241888#241888 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:12:14 AM PST US From: Subject: Zenith-List: moderator needed? Definitley no moderator needed here. Cowboy up. Name calling isn't all that hurtfull. Just use the delete key. Ed ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:17:30 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: BSR Chute From: "Gig Giacona" Here's where I go the weight. http://brsparachutes.com/files/Documents/Sales%20Retail%20Price%20List%20July%2015%202008.pdf The 3 models that match the 601's weight are between 29 and 34 pounds according to this. Add to that the weight of the fittings and 40 lbs sounds about right. Which model do you have Scott? cookwithgas wrote: > Common you guys! You are killing me with all this BAD INFORMATION! -------- W.R. "Gig" Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=241894#241894 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:17:30 AM PST US From: Subject: Zenith-List: BRS decision All points of view that I have read regarding the BRS systems are valid to some extent. I considered it seriously (although I discuss flipantly at times) and decided against it. It is a personal choice and there is no wrong answer until the circumstances are listed. At that point either answer could be wrong for a given flight. But none of us will know that until the flight is over, will we? Ed ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:26:11 AM PST US From: Bill Steer Subject: Re: Zenith-List: bushings I ran out of bushing material when I was building my HD and Zenith sent me more. I have some left over (somewhere). You're welcome to it if you want it. Bill N109BS Carlos Sa wrote: > The 601HD(S) plans call for bushings in the aileron bell crank > installation and on the rudder bearings (at least, these are the ones > I can remember). Very similar (if not exactly the same) to this XL > drawing http://www.zenithair.com/zodiac/xl/data/sample-6w10.pdf > > Question for scratch builders: what did you use as a bushing? I looked > at tubes in the AS&S catalog, but did not find a (exact) match... > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:40:27 AM PST US From: Jeyoung65@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: bushings Spruce's p/n is 03-00250 for the 4130 steel tubing,cut to length. 1/4" O.D. with .028 wall. Jerry of GA In a message dated 4/28/2009 10:03:58 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, carlossa52@gmail.com writes: The 601HD(S) plans call for bushings in the aileron bell crank installation and on the rudder bearings (at least, these are the ones I can remember). Very similar (if not exactly the same) to this XL drawing _http://www.zenithair.com/zodiac/xl/data/sample-6w10.pdf_ (http://www.zenithair.com/zodiac/xl/data/sample-6w10.pdf) Question for scratch builders: what did you use as a bushing? I looked at tubes in the AS&S catalog, but did not find a (exact) match... I'd appreciate your input Thanks Carlos CH601-HD, plans (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) **************Big savings on Dell XPS Laptops and click.net%2Fclk%3B214101948%3B35952020%3Bv) ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:41:49 AM PST US From: Tim Shankland Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Whatever happened to Subies The Subaru's are still around, I have about 90 hours on mine with no engine problems. The downside on any water cooled engine is the design of the cooling system. That is where Eggenfeller has an advantage with a complete firewall forward package. With that said I did not by an Eggenfeller, too expensive, I have a Stratus and have no complains about the engine. I did spend the better part of a year designing my cooling system, but that's why I plans built an airplane. Tim Shankland Dave wrote: > > With all the madness about Corvair engines these days it seems the > Subaru engine has left the field. Is this just a passing fad, or did > the Subie have some less than desirable quality that the Corvair > engine lacks? Perhaps it's down to a talented promoter. > > Is nobody selecting the Subaru any longer? > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:52:28 AM PST US From: "wade jones" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Still Have 601 HD/XL Tail Parts for Sale Hello Andy ,I need the fiberglass tail tips for the Horz. stab. Contact me at wjones@brazoriainet.com . Wade Jones South East Texas ----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew Hinsdale To: Zenith List Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 6:01 PM Subject: Zenith-List: Still Have 601 HD/XL Tail Parts for Sale Hello Listers! Thanks to the great response to my first email on parting out my 601 HD/XL tail kit! I have already sold the rivets, rivet puller, trim servo, and plans. I still have a bunch of genuine Zenithair parts for sale - fiberglass tail tips (why make them, I'll sell cheap!) complete rib sets, upgraded pre-drilled XL vertical tail (rudder control) horn, front and rear spars - doublers, XL elevator horn parts - just ask me to send you a price list and then make me an offer! Thanks Again Andy Hinsdale Tucson AZ ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:07:48 AM PST US From: JohnDRead@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: bushings Hi Carlos; Zenith has that tube, they will sell you a short length. John Read CH701 - Elbert CO - Jabiru 3300 Phone: 303-648-3261 Fax: 303-648-3262 Cell: 719-494-4567 **************Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000003) ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 07:17:37 AM PST US From: Rick Lindstrom Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Whatever happened to Subies I just got back from SnF, where I saw Jerry Perryman's RV-9A that flew in from Conroe, TX. It has an EJ25 Subie that Bud Warren (geareddrives.com) modified with a rear mounted, 3 pass radiator and a new gearbox. Originally an Egg engine, Warren and Perryman flew in it to OSH last year and Bud was concerned about the high temps and gearbox noise, so he thought he could it do it better. According to Perryman, his temps are now down 60F to 160, and he's tickled pink. Warren used off the shelf gear sets and other automotive components for the PSRU, which has the added advantage of easy gear ratio changes at about $200 per set. It also has its own enclosed lube system, using hypoid gear oil. The PSRU prototype is as ugly as sin right now, since Warren started with a spare rectangular hunk of aluminum billet for the gear case, but it appears to be working. The radiator is prettier, though, but it's mostly hidden. I took some photos if anyone's interested. Rick Lindstrom Zenvair N42KP -----Original Message----- >From: Tim Shankland >Sent: Apr 29, 2009 9:41 AM >To: zenith-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Whatever happened to Subies > > >The Subaru's are still around, I have about 90 hours on mine with no >engine problems. The downside on any water cooled engine is the design >of the cooling system. That is where Eggenfeller has an advantage with a >complete firewall forward package. With that said I did not by an >Eggenfeller, too expensive, I have a Stratus and have no complains about >the engine. I did spend the better part of a year designing my cooling >system, but that's why I plans built an airplane. > >Tim Shankland > >Dave wrote: > >> >> With all the madness about Corvair engines these days it seems the >> Subaru engine has left the field. Is this just a passing fad, or did >> the Subie have some less than desirable quality that the Corvair >> engine lacks? Perhaps it's down to a talented promoter. >> >> Is nobody selecting the Subaru any longer? >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 08:05:51 AM PST US From: "steve" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: BSR Chute Yes I still watch the crap going on here but do my best not to get involved. My BRS added 21 pounds to the baggage area at 1600mm. The problem is that 1600mm is not what you will have. The chute sits on the 1850mm mark. I dont have a CG problem until fuel goes down tp about 9 gallons. Then the CG goes out to 465. Again in Europe the CG envelope goes from 300 to 520 mm. A letter from CH on approving the 520mm is available but here in the USA Zenith still wants 450. I did move the battery forward 11 inches ahead of the firewall and my 601XL flys nose heavy in test flights (so far). The overall weight of the BRS is 29 pounds which includes all hardware. If I knew before about the BRS in Europe, where they install the chute in front of the instrument panel I would have gone with that instead of the baggage area. The forward BRS is a 1050 pound rated unit. Mine is the 1350. In front, the balance would have been easier but not much room for instruments. SW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Payne" Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 10:10 PM Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: BSR Chute > > Ask Steve Weston about the W&B numbers for his Jabiru 3300-powered XL with > a > BRS. Those are real numbers (I helped calculate them). One difference > between Steve and Scott's plane is that Scott's has a Corvair hung on the > front which helps counteract the weight of the BRS. Steve added a bracket > to > move his battery farther forward from the firewall. I don't know if Steve > is > still on this list but he is on the Zenith builders site. > > -- Craig > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Stanley > Challgren > Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 10:48 PM > To: zenith-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: BSR Chute > > > Scott: > > I had never really considered a chute until I saw your picture showing > it weighed 18.8 pounds. BRS's July 2008 price list shows a 1350 > having BRS system weights from 29 to 34 pounds. Do you have the > softpact? > > Stan > 701/3300 > > > On Apr 28, 2009, at 22:05 , cookwithgas wrote: > >> > >> >> Common you guys! You are killing me with all this BAD INFORMATION! >> You guys throw numbers around like you are experts and you don't >> have a clue! I don't intend to offend anyone personally but some of >> you guys need a reality check. Here's a picture of my BRS pack on a >> scale: >> >> http://www.cooknwithgas.com/10_28_06_BRS_Weight.JPG >> >> 18.8 lbs. Clearly not 40 lbs in the back of the airplane! The gold >> thing is less than a pound and all of the other parts barely weigh 9 >> lbs. much of it in the front of the airplane. >> >> This picture has been on my website since October of 2006 as you can >> see from the file name. Seriously guys - this list has come to a >> bunch of guys throwing around numbers and opinions based on NOTHING >> but speculation and blah blah blah. Get out there and work on your >> airplane or go fly it, then come back and report something or ask a >> valid question. All this bad info on this list needs to stop. Some >> of you guys seem to have to reply to every post even if you have NO >> IDEA what you are talking about! Can we use a little restraint here >> until we have something factual or useful to post? >> >> Sorry for the rant, but I don't see any more posts from the guys >> that know because they have been chased away by a bunch of Yahoos >> with nothing better to do but spread bad info. Most of those guys >> are too nice to say anything and just fade away for good reason. I >> just see the wrong kind of speculation and just plane bad >> information here anymore. >> >> Have a good evening, >> >> Scott Laughlin >> 601XL/Corvair >> Omaha >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=241842#241842 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 08:17:25 AM PST US From: "steve" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: BSR Chute $4300.00 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trevor Jennings" Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 4:43 AM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: BSR Chute > > Also, just out of curiosity, how much did it cost to install the BRS > chute? > > Cheers, > > - Trevor > > > On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 12:47 AM, Stanley Challgren > wrote: >> >> Scott: >> >> I had never really considered a chute until I saw your picture showing it >> weighed 18.8 pounds. BRS's July 2008 price list shows a 1350 having BRS >> system weights from 29 to 34 pounds. Do you have the softpact? >> >> Stan >> 701/3300 >> >> >> On Apr 28, 2009, at 22:05 , cookwithgas wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Common you guys! You are killing me with all this BAD INFORMATION! You >>> guys throw numbers around like you are experts and you don't have a >>> clue! I >>> don't intend to offend anyone personally but some of you guys need a >>> reality >>> check. Here's a picture of my BRS pack on a scale: >>> >>> http://www.cooknwithgas.com/10_28_06_BRS_Weight.JPG >>> >>> 18.8 lbs. Clearly not 40 lbs in the back of the airplane! The gold thing >>> is less than a pound and all of the other parts barely weigh 9 lbs. much >>> of >>> it in the front of the airplane. >>> >>> This picture has been on my website since October of 2006 as you can see >>> from the file name. Seriously guys - this list has come to a bunch of >>> guys >>> throwing around numbers and opinions based on NOTHING but speculation >>> and >>> blah blah blah. Get out there and work on your airplane or go fly it, >>> then >>> come back and report something or ask a valid question. All this bad >>> info >>> on this list needs to stop. Some of you guys seem to have to reply to >>> every >>> post even if you have NO IDEA what you are talking about! Can we use a >>> little restraint here until we have something factual or useful to post? >>> >>> Sorry for the rant, but I don't see any more posts from the guys that >>> know >>> because they have been chased away by a bunch of Yahoos with nothing >>> better >>> to do but spread bad info. Most of those guys are too nice to say >>> anything >>> and just fade away for good reason. I just see the wrong kind of >>> speculation and just plane bad information here anymore. >>> >>> Have a good evening, >>> >>> Scott Laughlin >>> 601XL/Corvair >>> Omaha >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Read this topic online here: >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=241842#241842 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 09:24:37 AM PST US From: Gary Gower Subject: Re: Zenith-List: BSR Chute That is a design goal of BRS.- If they made the landing slower, to save t he (already damaged airplane),- there is a big chance of wind drifting or even-rasing in thermals that-could-make-the landing more dangerous .-- Imagine a damage airplane being drifted-though-the-edge of a canyon...- I am not shure about the exact number (read it several years a go), but is around 700 fpm.-(need to check it) -Some damage can be spec ted to the airplane and or passenger(s), but will save their lives. - Saludos Gary Gower.- --- On Tue, 4/28/09, JohnDRead@aol.com wrote: From: JohnDRead@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: BSR Chute The primary purpose of BRS chutes is to save the passengers, the airframe i s secondary. do not archive. - John Read CH701 - Elbert CO - Jabiru 3300 Phone: 303-648-3261 Fax: 303-648-3262 Cell: 719-494-4567 - - An Excellx1221621499x1201450105/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com /pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=AprilExcScore428NO62>See You rs in Just 2 Easy Steps! =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 12:46:31 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: BSR Chute From: "cookwithgas" Gig Giacona wrote: > http://brsparachutes.com/files/Documents/Sales%20Retail%20Price%20List%20July%2015%202008.pdf > Which model do you have Scott? > Gig: I purchased and installed the 1350 Softpack. At the time it was $4,000. "System Weight" = 29 lbs = total weight including brackets & straps. You and I have been at this airplane-building a long time, huh? Let's meet at a fly-in somewhere soon to celebrate two finished projects. Scott Laughlin 601XL/Corvair Omaha / Dallas Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=241962#241962 ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 02:11:05 PM PST US From: "n801bh@netzero.com" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Whatever happened to Subies Yup... lets see some photos... do not archive Ben Haas N801BH www.haaspowerair.com ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Rick Lindstrom Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Whatever happened to Subies com> I just got back from SnF, where I saw Jerry Perryman's RV-9A that flew i n from Conroe, TX. It has an EJ25 Subie that Bud Warren (geareddrives.co m) modified with a rear mounted, 3 pass radiator and a new gearbox. Orig inally an Egg engine, Warren and Perryman flew in it to OSH last year an d Bud was concerned about the high temps and gearbox noise, so he though t he could it do it better. According to Perryman, his temps are now down 60F to 160, and he's tickl ed pink. Warren used off the shelf gear sets and other automotive compon ents for the PSRU, which has the added advantage of easy gear ratio chan ges at about $200 per set. It also has its own enclosed lube system, usi ng hypoid gear oil. The PSRU prototype is as ugly as sin right now, since Warren started wit h a spare rectangular hunk of aluminum billet for the gear case, but it appears to be working. The radiator is prettier, though, but it's mostly hidden. I took some photos if anyone's interested. Rick Lindstrom Zenvair N42KP -----Original Message----- >From: Tim Shankland >Sent: Apr 29, 2009 9:41 AM >To: zenith-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Whatever happened to Subies > net> > >The Subaru's are still around, I have about 90 hours on mine with no >engine problems. The downside on any water cooled engine is the design >of the cooling system. That is where Eggenfeller has an advantage with a >complete firewall forward package. With that said I did not by an >Eggenfeller, too expensive, I have a Stratus and have no complains abou t >the engine. I did spend the better part of a year designing my cooling >system, but that's why I plans built an airplane. > >Tim Shankland > >Dave wrote: > >> >> With all the madness about Corvair engines these days it seems the >> Subaru engine has left the field. Is this just a passing fad, or did >> the Subie have some less than desirable quality that the Corvair >> engine lacks? Perhaps it's down to a talented promoter. >> >> Is nobody selecting the Subaru any longer? >> >> >> >> >> > > ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ____________________________________________________________ Click to get high quality postcards printed fast and easy. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/fc/BLSrjpYY5k5XRKgdACg3h9tmf az5KEjgAPxLaIMuvRMtoLRIkyzQ2Z7Mz3y/ ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 03:59:42 PM PST US From: "Bill Naumuk" Subject: Zenith-List: Connector swap? All- I came up short 2 (Better make that 4 to cover screw-ups) 22-24AWG female .093 Molex crimp connectors (Their # 02-09-1138). It'll cost me at least $10 plus shipping to order them. On the other hand, I have tons of extra other types of connectors that I'd be willing to swap, if anyone has the Molex. We could both get out for the price of a stamp. Let me know if anyone has what I need and what you need. Thanks. Bill Naumuk Townville, Pa. HDS 601MG/Corvair 95% ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 08:04:36 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: bushings - tx From: Carlos Sa Thanks all that replied on and off list. http://www.aircraftspruce.com/menus/me/steel_4130tubing.html 03-002504130 STEEL TUBE 1/4" X .028 Nice to see the list slowly coming back to normal. Happy building, people Carlos CH601-HD, plans centre wing in progress, at the usual snail pace. ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 10:10:08 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: XL Cable tension specs - not on my plans! From: "Aaron" I bought a kit from Zenair back in 1993, which I have now completed and flown 160 hrs in. On my plans, there was no mention of any specification for cable tensions, when a fellow XL builder from New Zealand experienced flutter during initial flight testing this is the response from Zenair. http://www.zenair.org/nuke/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1 7 ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 11:05:38 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: RE: XL Cable tension specs - not on my plans! 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