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1. 06:35 AM - Chat Room Reminder For "Digesters" (George Race)
2. 07:42 AM - Re: What did you make today? (wade jones)
3. 08:21 AM - Re: What did you make today? (lwinger)
4. 09:40 AM - Re: Re: What did you make today? (Bill Naumuk)
5. 09:53 AM - Re: Re: What did you make today? ()
6. 10:47 AM - Re: Re: What did you make today? (Carlos Sa)
7. 11:27 AM - Re: Control cables swagging ()
8. 11:42 AM - Self etching primer (Trevor Jennings)
9. 11:48 AM - Re: What did you make today? (kmccune)
10. 12:18 PM - Re: Self etching primer (Bob Percival)
11. 01:24 PM - Verticle location of axles (Carroll Jernigan)
12. 01:34 PM - Re: Self etching primer (Rene)
13. 01:49 PM - Re: Verticle location of axles (Bryan Martin)
14. 02:07 PM - Re: Self etching primer (Bob Percival)
15. 02:20 PM - Re: Self etching primer (Thruster87)
16. 03:48 PM - Re: What did you make today? (jonaburns)
17. 03:55 PM - Re: Re: What did you make today? (steve)
18. 04:35 PM - Re: Self etching primer (MHerder)
19. 05:10 PM - Re: What did you make today? (jonaburns)
20. 05:18 PM - Re: What did you make today? (hansriet)
21. 05:22 PM - Re: Verticle location of axles (Tim Juhl)
22. 08:17 PM - Re: Self etching primer (ROBERT SCEPPA)
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| Subject: | Chat Room Reminder For "Digesters" |
Live Chat Room every Monday evening around 8:00 EDT
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Click on the Chat Room link on the page.
George
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| Subject: | Re: What did you make today? |
Hello group ,I didn't make any parts today ,however I had a great day .I
flew my Sonerai to a local fly-in at The Lake Jackson TX. airport .There
were lots of planes there and my Sonerai got lots of attention ,but no
awards .I have decided that with any Van's RV planes on site during the
judging there is not much chance of other planes getting many awards .The
judges seem to favor these planes.This morning I installed an oil pressure
gauge ,next week my new prop will be sent from Ed Sterba .I will run my
Franklin engine for the first time in the next week or so ,hope all goes
well .
Wade Jones South East Texas
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From: <jlatimer1@cox.net>
Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 7:49 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: What did you make today?
>
> Well I got my Nuvite aluminum polish today and had my front nose skin off
> while doing some work behind the panel so I thought I would polish it.
> See before and after photos.
>
> I also finally got around to reserving my N number. (316JL)
> Jerry
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| Subject: | Re: What did you make today? |
This is a great thread, because it gets us back to the reason we all joined this
list.
I finally made my way through most of those 9,200 rivets. Yesterday I pulled my
last fuselage rivet, and even managed to climb in the cockpit to make some inaugural
inviso-engine noises. The pictures tell the story. Keep on building,
guys.
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Larry Winger
Tustin, CA
Plans building 601XL/650 with Corvair
Fuselage complete
Ready to go on gear
www.mykitlog.com/lwinger
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| Subject: | Re: What did you make today? |
Larry-
Agreed. Maybe we should make it a weekly feature. Another suggestion
would be a list of outlets for all those hard-to-find parts. To start things
off-
Oddball fuel fittings- Murdoch Industrial
Fuel valves- Discount Hydraulics
Obsolete schematics, etc.- Essco
Now, if some lister more enterprising than me would start an Excel
spreadsheet...
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: "lwinger" <larrywinger@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 11:19 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: What did you make today?
>
> This is a great thread, because it gets us back to the reason we all
> joined this list.
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| Subject: | Re: What did you make today? |
Murdoch also had the best price on firesleeve.
Jerry
601HDS
---- Bill Naumuk <naumuk@windstream.net> wrote:
>
> Larry-
> Agreed. Maybe we should make it a weekly feature. Another suggestion
> would be a list of outlets for all those hard-to-find parts. To start things
> off-
> Oddball fuel fittings- Murdoch Industrial
> Fuel valves- Discount Hydraulics
> Obsolete schematics, etc.- Essco
> Now, if some lister more enterprising than me would start an Excel
> spreadsheet...
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: What did you make today? |
Note that if you are using Gmail, there will be some interesting "sponsored
links" to the right of this email.
Gmail is sensitive to the contents of email, and uses it to select the adds
it displays.
I am conditioned to ignore adds, but the heading "Carbide Jobber Drills"
caught my eye...
Carlos
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2009/5/3 <jlatimer1@cox.net>
>
> Murdoch also had the best price on firesleeve.
> Jerry
> 601HDS
>
> ---- Bill Naumuk <naumuk@windstream.net> wrote:
> >
> > Larry-
> > Agreed. Maybe we should make it a weekly feature. Another suggestion
> > would be a list of outlets for all those hard-to-find parts. To start
> things
> > off-
> > Oddball fuel fittings- Murdoch Industrial
> > Fuel valves- Discount Hydraulics
> > Obsolete schematics, etc.- Essco
> > Now, if some lister more enterprising than me would start an Excel
> > spreadsheet...
> >
> >
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| Subject: | Re: Control cables swagging |
If you're using a tool supplied by one of the aircraft houses (I suspect
they're all made in some back alley in Hong Kong), the dimension when
the tool is completely closed should be right. To double check, you'll
find the dimension in 43-13.
Paul Rodriguez
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To: zenith-list@matronics.com<mailto:zenith-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 4:11 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Control cables swagging
Does anyone know what dim. the swage limit is for NICOPRESS on 1/8
cable with manual tool? Jerry of GA
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| Subject: | Self etching primer |
Hi,
I was wondering if anyone on here has used the self etching primer
from NAPA (#7220 which is actually sherwin williams) on their internal
parts? I'm using it on the ribs and spar of the rudder and was told it
was okay from several people but an A&P told me that this stuff will
eventually eat through the metal thus eventually causing corrosion
anyway.
Cheers,
- Trevor
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| Subject: | Re: What did you make today? |
Nice looking fuse! But where is the audio of the airplanes noises [Laughing]
Well I did get some flaperon brackets made yesterday, before it was time to pay
the piper at the wedding! [Wink]
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Kevin
lwinger wrote:
> This is a great thread, because it gets us back to the reason we all joined this
list.
>
> I finally made my way through most of those 9,200 rivets. Yesterday I pulled
my last fuselage rivet, and even managed to climb in the cockpit to make some
inaugural inviso-engine noises. The pictures tell the story. Keep on building,
guys.
--------
Mark Twain: Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that
you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail
away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream.
Discover.
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| Subject: | Self etching primer |
Trevor,
I used NAPA 7220 on my rudder internals as well. I seem to recall it was
popular among the RV builders. Yours is the first report I've heard of
regarding corrosiveness. If you are able to verify that info I hope you
post it here.
Do Not Archive
Bob Percival
701/Vair
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From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Trevor
Jennings
Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 12:41 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Self etching primer
Hi,
I was wondering if anyone on here has used the self etching primer
from NAPA (#7220 which is actually sherwin williams) on their internal
parts? I'm using it on the ribs and spar of the rudder and was told it
was okay from several people but an A&P told me that this stuff will
eventually eat through the metal thus eventually causing corrosion
anyway.
Cheers,
- Trevor
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05/02/09 14:23:00
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| Subject: | Verticle location of axles |
List
Its probably on the drawings right under my nose but I haven't found
it. I have a Zenith main gear and Grove wheels and axles. How far from
the end of the gear up to the axles? The gear would allow them to be
moved up or down at least and inch. There is a hole pattern in the
drawing but no vertical location. Help.
Carroll
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| Subject: | Self etching primer |
I used the SW 988 (along with a PPG product) on my RV-10 and have seen no
problems. It is my understanding that it is a perfect match between
application and product. If you want to hear all types of opinions .....
just search the RV-10 and other RV archives. Primer wars erupt all the time
on those forums. If it gets slow on the list...just bring up "the best
primer" and your e-mail will fill up.
Good luck in your search for the bottom line on primers.
Rene'
801-721-6080
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From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Percival
Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 1:37 PM
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Self etching primer
Trevor,
I used NAPA 7220 on my rudder internals as well. I seem to recall it was
popular among the RV builders. Yours is the first report I've heard of
regarding corrosiveness. If you are able to verify that info I hope you
post it here.
Do Not Archive
Bob Percival
701/Vair
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Trevor
Jennings
Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 12:41 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Self etching primer
Hi,
I was wondering if anyone on here has used the self etching primer
from NAPA (#7220 which is actually sherwin williams) on their internal
parts? I'm using it on the ribs and spar of the rudder and was told it
was okay from several people but an A&P told me that this stuff will
eventually eat through the metal thus eventually causing corrosion
anyway.
Cheers,
- Trevor
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05/02/09 14:23:00
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| Subject: | Re: Verticle location of axles |
I installed mine with the flats of the axles flush with the bottom of
the main gear spring. If in doubt, the aircraft should sit level on
its gear, level the fuselage and check that the nose wheel and main
wheels hang on the same level.
>
> >
>
> List
> Its probably on the drawings right under my nose but I haven't found
> it. I have a Zenith main gear and Grove wheels and axles. How far
> from the end of the gear up to the axles? The gear would allow them
> to be moved up or down at least and inch. There is a hole pattern in
> the drawing but no vertical location. Help.
> Carroll
>
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL,
RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
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| Subject: | Self etching primer |
I looked through the RV archives as Rene' suggested. About the only
criticism I found was that this primer didn't hold up as well as some
others in areas where surfaces rubbed, and that it could be removed
years later with MEK and scotchbrite. [No color of scothbrite referenced
8^) ]. I saw no mention of this primer leading to corrosion issues and I
plan to continue using it.
Bob Percival
701/Vair
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From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene
Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 2:31 PM
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Self etching primer
I used the SW 988 (along with a PPG product) on my RV-10 and have seen
no
problems. It is my understanding that it is a perfect match between
application and product. If you want to hear all types of opinions
.....
just search the RV-10 and other RV archives. Primer wars erupt all the
time
on those forums. If it gets slow on the list...just bring up "the best
primer" and your e-mail will fill up.
Good luck in your search for the bottom line on primers.
Rene'
801-721-6080
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From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob
Percival
Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 1:37 PM
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Self etching primer
<bob@frontrange-pc.com>
Trevor,
I used NAPA 7220 on my rudder internals as well. I seem to recall it was
popular among the RV builders. Yours is the first report I've heard of
regarding corrosiveness. If you are able to verify that info I hope you
post it here.
Do Not Archive
Bob Percival
701/Vair
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Trevor
Jennings
Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 12:41 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Self etching primer
Hi,
I was wondering if anyone on here has used the self etching primer
from NAPA (#7220 which is actually sherwin williams) on their internal
parts? I'm using it on the ribs and spar of the rudder and was told it
was okay from several people but an A&P told me that this stuff will
eventually eat through the metal thus eventually causing corrosion
anyway.
Cheers,
- Trevor
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05/02/09 14:23:00
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05/02/09 14:23:00
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| Subject: | Re: Self etching primer |
Check this out for comparing a couple of different primers http://www.tabshred.com/moe/primer.htm
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| Subject: | Re: What did you make today? |
I have been working on mounting my EFIS and doing other electrical work.
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| Subject: | Re: What did you make today? |
Spent the whole day trying to figure out how to stop the
Crap that shows up on my screen from Matronics.
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From: "jonaburns" <lsapilot@HOTMAIL.COM>
Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 3:47 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: What did you make today?
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| Subject: | Re: Self etching primer |
Ive used the 7220 from Napa, workds great, dries quick. And I'm not 100% sure,
but I bet I'll be dead before this stuff corrodes through my aluminum.
Everyone gets all worked up over corrosion. I'll never understand the 75 yr old
guy that I saw hand dipping each of his rivets in Zinc Chromate, exposing himself
to carcinogens for hours on end... Really guys, really? Where are you going
to be in 20 yrs, 30 or more??? I'm 27 and not too concerned with the fact
that I haven't applied corrosion protection to every surface.
Ok, there's my two cents, maybe Id feel differently if I lived on the coast, in
an extremely polluted city, and tied down instead of hangared, but none of those
three apply.
On the otherhand our .016 used on a lot of our birds is pretty thin stuff to begin
with, but I'm STILL not too worked up about it. My plan is to spray the inside
with corrosion x every couple of years if anything.
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One Rivet at a Time!
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| Subject: | Re: What did you make today? |
notsew_evets,
You can unsubscribe. Since it took you all day to figure that out, here is the
link:
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| Subject: | Re: What did you make today? |
I riveted the wing tip of my right wing. I'm almost ready for the EAA counselor
to come by and inspect before I close my first wing. What's left is install the
control cables (I want to do this before I close the wing) and debur the rear
top skin :-0
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| Subject: | Re: Verticle location of axles |
Just make sure that you allow for sufficient "meat" around the bolt holes. Also,
use great care when drilling so that all four holes are perfectly aligned.
With the thickness of the axle base being what it is the holes have to be perfectly
aligned or you may not get the bolts to go in without binding. I ended
up having a machinist friend drill the holes on a mill.
Tim
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CFII
Champ L16A flying
Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A
Working on fuselage
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| Subject: | Re: Self etching primer |
> I have used it and don't see any sign of corrosion. I also ued some
> other etching brand that was from the same store its a cheaper one that
> has more content than the SW brand. I am also using a self etchant from
> an auto supply store....Do not archive
--- On Sun, 5/3/09, Trevor Jennings <tjennings@gmail.com> wrote:
> From: Trevor Jennings <tjennings@gmail.com>
> Subject: Zenith-List: Self etching primer
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Date: Sunday, May 3, 2009, 7:40 PM
> Trevor Jennings <tjennings@gmail.com>
>
> Hi,
>
> I was wondering if anyone on here has used the self
> etching primer
> from NAPA (#7220 which is actually sherwin williams) on
> their internal
> parts? I'm using it on the ribs and spar of the rudder and
> was told it
> was okay from several people but an A&P told me that
> this stuff will
> eventually eat through the metal thus eventually causing
> corrosion
> anyway.
>
> Cheers,
>
> - Trevor
>
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