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1. 03:56 AM - Re: What did you do today? (kmccune)
2. 06:15 AM - Re: What did you do today? (Gig Giacona)
3. 07:04 AM - Re: What did you do today? (hansriet)
4. 07:22 AM - Re: Re: What did you do today? (Paul Mulwitz)
5. 07:27 AM - Re: Re: What did you do today? (jaybannist@cs.com)
6. 09:28 AM - Re: Re: What did you do today? (Carlos Sa)
7. 09:35 AM - Re: Re: What did you do today? (Craig Payne)
8. 10:01 AM - Torque wrenches (lwinger)
9. 10:10 AM - Re: Re: What did you do today? (Jeyoung65@aol.com)
10. 10:48 AM - Re: Re: What did you do today? (Craig Payne)
11. 01:21 PM - Who was it that had instaled a Dynon A/P? (Gig Giacona)
12. 02:53 PM - Chat Room Reminder (George Race)
13. 04:58 PM - Re: Who was it that had instaled a Dynon A/P? (leinad)
14. 05:31 PM - Re: Torque wrenches (Craig Payne)
15. 05:32 PM - Re: Re: What did you do today? (Lawrence Webber)
16. 07:12 PM - Re: Re: What did you do today? (Craig Payne)
17. 07:15 PM - Re: What did you make today? (Ron Lendon)
18. 07:51 PM - Re: Re: What did you do today? (JohnDRead@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: What did you do today? |
Made the flaperon rib form blocks yesterday and then cleaned up my so I could move
around and find things.
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| Subject: | Re: What did you do today? |
Installed ELT and worked on cabin heat muff.
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| Subject: | Re: What did you do today? |
I researched torque wrenches, to no avail. If anybody has tips, it will be appreciated.
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| Subject: | Re: What did you do today? |
Hi Hans,
Harbor Freight has a nice selection of torque wrenches. I have one
of the smaller ones with 3/8 drive and a larger one too.
Paul
XL grounded
At 07:02 AM 5/11/2009, you wrote:
>I researched torque wrenches, to no avail. If anybody has tips, it
>will be appreciated.
>
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| Subject: | Re: What did you do today? |
Everyone should have on their computer a copy of John Schwaner's "Mechanic's Toolbox".?
There you will find everything you need to know about torque wrenches
and their use; and lots and lots of other valuable stuff.
Jay Bannister
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From: hansriet <hansinla@mac.com>
Sent: Mon, 11 May 2009 9:02 am
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: What did you do today?
I researched torque wrenches, to no avail. If anybody has tips, it will be
appreciated.
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| Subject: | Re: What did you do today? |
Kitplanes June 2009 mentions a digital wrench from Sears
About US$200, if I am not mistaken
Carlos
2009/5/11 hansriet <hansinla@mac.com>
>
> I researched torque wrenches, to no avail. If anybody has tips, it will be
> appreciated.
>
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| Subject: | Re: What did you do today? |
For foot pounds the standard "torsion bar" or beam ones from Sears are
dandy. It is in the lower ranges (inch pounds) where it gets tough. The
imported "click" style don't keep their accuracy. To get a good "click"
torque wrench you have to spend some dough and get a name brand like
Snap-On.
You can have a good wrench and use it the wrong way and be way off. For
example on the beam wrenches the plastic handle pivots on the steel shaft
through an axle. If you don't hold it such that the handle is floating free
with the force only transmitted through the axle then the reading will be
off.
I went with a strain gauge based Computorq 3 from CDI. The 1/4 inch drive
model has a range of 2 to 20 foot pounds or 24 to 240 inch pounds. You enter
the target on the display and as you approach a yellow light comes on. When
you reach the target a green light comes on. Accompanying sound effects
allow you to torque where you can't see the wrench. Lots of people sell them
and prices vary widely - just google "cdi computorq3"
You can take the whole thing to an extreme. Some would have you calibrate
the wrench before each use. The section on torque in the Sky Ranch
Engineering Manual is a good read.
-- Craig
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[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of hansriet
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 8:02 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: What did you do today?
I researched torque wrenches, to no avail. If anybody has tips, it will be
appreciated.
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Based on advice from William Wynne, I invested in three different beam-type torque
wrenches. They are all relatively low cost and easy to see if the calibration
is off (beam off center on scale).
For my engine and large bolts, I got two different 3/8" Craftsman beam torque wrenches.
One is 0-75 and the other is 0-150 ft-lbs.
Because of the numerous AN3-4 bolts we fasten on our planes, with ranges as low
as 20 inch/pounds, I got a KD 1/4" Fixed non-rachet beam torque wrench #2955.
It measures from 0 to 60 in-lbs and is relatively small to fit in tight locations.
For ranges over 60 in-lbs, it is easy to convert to ft-lbs (divide by
12) and use the next larger torque wrench.
I would love to go digital, but the level of care and need for calibration kept
me content to go analog.
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Larry Winger
Tustin, CA
Plans building 601XL/650 with Corvair
Fuselage on gear
Ready for canopy
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| Subject: | Re: What did you do today? |
Not sure this is the best wrench for self-locking nuts. You should check
the torque required to run the bolt through on self-locking section of the
nuts and add it to the torque you are using. Most are well below 24 inch
pounds. Jerry of GA DO NOT ARCHIVE
In a message dated 5/11/2009 11:37:22 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
craig@craigandjean.com writes:
.
I went with a strain gauge based Computorq 3 from CDI. The 1/4 inch drive
model has a range of 2 to 20 foot pounds or 24 to 240 inch pounds. You
enter
the target on the display and as you approach a yellow light comes on. When
you reach the target a green light comes on. Accompanying sound effects
allow you to torque where you can't see the wrench. Lots of people sell
them
and prices vary widely - just google "cdi computorq3"
You can take the whole thing to an extreme. Some would have you calibrate
the wrench before each use. The section on torque in the Sky Ranch
Engineering Manual is a good read.
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| Subject: | Re: What did you do today? |
Yes, I know. I posted the message below last year in March. I avoid the
issue by not reusing small self-locking nuts. What wrench do you use?
-- Craig
The stuff I read said that you measure the drag torque with your torque
wrench before the nut starts touching the surface to be clamped. For the
small nuts I couldn't do this with my CompuTorq3 electronic wrench as it
doesn't start registering until 20 or so inch-pounds. I guessed around 5
inch-pounds. What I finally found that helped was table 7-2 in AC 43.13-1B
(Acceptable Methods.). "Minimum prevailing torque values for re-used
self-locking nuts". This tells you how much drag torque a SL nut needs to
have for it to be safe to reuse it. I reasoned that this must be a pretty
good guide to the minimum drag in a *new* SL nut.
For fine threads the table says:
7/16-20 8 in-lbs
1/2-20 10 in-lbs
9/16-18 13 in-lbs
.
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[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Jeyoung65@aol.com
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: What did you do today?
Not sure this is the best wrench for self-locking nuts. You should check the
torque required to run the bolt through on self-locking section of the nuts
and add it to the torque you are using. Most are well below 24 inch pounds.
Jerry of GA DO NOT ARCHIVE
In a message dated 5/11/2009 11:37:22 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
craig@craigandjean.com writes:
.
I went with a strain gauge based Computorq 3 from CDI. The 1/4 inch drive
model has a range of 2 to 20 foot pounds or 24 to 240 inch pounds. You enter
the target on the display and as you approach a yellow light comes on. When
you reach the target a green light comes on. Accompanying sound effects
allow you to torque where you can't see the wrench. Lots of people sell them
and prices vary widely - just google "cdi computorq3"
You can take the whole thing to an extreme. Some would have you calibrate
the wrench before each use. The section on torque in the Sky Ranch
Engineering Manual is a good read.
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| Subject: | Who was it that had instaled a Dynon A/P? |
I've searched and can't find it but somebody posted not long ago about a Dynon
A/P install.
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W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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| Subject: | Re: Who was it that had instaled a Dynon A/P? |
Gig,
I installed a Dynon D10A. Do you have a specific question?
Dan
Gig Giacona wrote:
> I've searched and can't find it but somebody posted not long ago about a Dynon
A/P install.
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More torque trivia:
"For instance, did you know that your torque wrench-freshly calibrated by
someone traceable to the National Bureau of Standards-is not accurate in the
first 1/6th and last 1/6th of its range? That's right: a 100 ft.lb torque
wrench is accurate only over the middle 2/3 of its range. So it should not
be used for anything outside of 16?84 ft?lbs! Size the wrench to the job,
and don't fool yourself into thinking that you can just figure the
conversion from in lb to ft?lb, set that 100 ft?lb torque wrench to 3 foot
pounds, and have 36 inch?pounds. No telling what you'll have, that far away
from the calibrated zone. "
http://www.vansairforce.org/articles/tips/tip_torque_bolts.html
-- Craig
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| Subject: | Re: What did you do today? |
Craig im new to powder coat painting ? can you paint a powder paint over
an existing standard base paint provided you have sanded first? i used a
powder on my valve covers which i sand blasted=2C wire wheeled and for al
l purposes were raw metal finish
i then baked in oven 300 until no more smoke was visible cooled then powd
er painted and was very pleased with finish. they will be seen at CC#14 in
Lowell Ma. on the 22nd of this month
Larry
> From: craig@craigandjean.com
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: What did you do today?
> Date: Sun=2C 10 May 2009 19:45:10 -0600
>
>
> I (re)powder coated one of the sub-panels on my instrument panel last nig
ht.
> BTW: if you ever need to remove powder coat acetone didn't touch it but
> Permatex Gasket Remover (item #80646) made short work of it. And it's "kn
own
> by the State of California to cause cancer and birth defects or other
> reproductive harm"!
>
> Today I'm mounting switches and instruments.
>
> -- Craig
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| Subject: | Re: What did you do today? |
Are you saying that even after your prep'ed you still had some old
conventional paint on the surface? Everything I have read says you have to
have bare metal or a first layer of the same powder coat. Since you will
cure it at 400-450 degrees F I'd be worried about the effect of the high
heat on the old paint. But everything I have done was new aluminum so I
don't have much to go on. The nice thing about aluminum is that no matter
how bad your oven is the whole item quickly reaches a uniform temperature.
-- Craig
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lawrence Webber
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 6:30 PM
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: What did you do today?
Craig im new to powder coat painting ? can you paint a powder paint over
an existing standard base paint provided you have sanded first? i used a
powder on my valve covers which i sand blasted, wire wheeled and for all
purposes were raw metal finish
i then baked in oven 300 until no more smoke was visible cooled then
powder painted and was very pleased with finish. they will be seen at CC#14
in Lowell Ma. on the 22nd of this month
Larry
> From: craig@craigandjean.com
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: What did you do today?
> Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 19:45:10 -0600
>
>
> I (re)powder coated one of the sub-panels on my instrument panel last
night.
> BTW: if you ever need to remove powder coat acetone didn't touch it but
> Permatex Gasket Remover (item #80646) made short work of it. And it's
"known
> by the State of California to cause cancer and birth defects or other
> reproductive harm"!
>
> Today I'm mounting switches and instruments.
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| Subject: | Re: What did you make today? |
Made the Central Pedal Bearing 6B9-4
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WW Corvair with Roy's Garage 5th bearing
Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder ;-)
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| Subject: | Re: What did you do today? |
Sears has a good one, about $70.00 as I recall. It was within 1 in. oz when
I check calibration. do not archive.
John Read
CH701 - Elbert CO - Jabiru 3300
Phone: 303-648-3261
Fax: 303-648-3262
Cell: 719-494-4567
In a message dated 5/11/2009 8:07:34 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
hansinla@mac.com writes:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "hansriet" <hansinla@mac.com>
I researched torque wrenches, to no avail. If anybody has tips, it will be
appreciated.
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