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1. 02:44 AM - Re: What did you do today? (Edward Moody II)
2. 05:00 AM - Re: Who was it that had instaled a Dynon A/P? (DaveG601XL)
3. 05:09 AM - Mid-Atlantic Fly-in (601corvair)
4. 06:18 AM - Re: Who was it that had instaled a Dynon A/P? (Gig Giacona)
5. 06:41 AM - Re: Re: Who was it that had instaled a Dynon A/P? (jaybannist@cs.com)
6. 07:13 AM - Re: Re: Who was it that had instaled a Dynon A/P? (jaybannist@cs.com)
7. 08:04 AM - Re: Who was it that had instaled a Dynon A/P? (Gig Giacona)
8. 08:12 AM - Re: Who was it that had instaled a Dynon A/P? (lgingell)
9. 09:31 AM - Re: Who was it that had instaled a Dynon A/P? (Gig Giacona)
10. 09:46 AM - Re: Who was it that had instaled a Dynon A/P? (DaveG601XL)
11. 09:58 AM - Re: Who was it that had instaled a Dynon A/P? (Gig Giacona)
12. 10:32 AM - Re: Re: What did you do today? (Lawrence Webber)
13. 11:44 AM - Re: Re: What did you do today? (Bill Naumuk)
14. 01:07 PM - Re: Who was it that had instaled a Dynon A/P? (DaveG601XL)
15. 02:12 PM - Re: Who was it that had instaled a Dynon A/P? (Gig Giacona)
16. 05:46 PM - Re: What did you do today? (kmccune)
17. 07:24 PM - Re: Re: What did you do today? (Art Gibeaut)
18. 10:54 PM - 6 years and 1150 hours (N601RT)
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| Subject: | Re: What did you do today? |
Finished putting on the red detail stripes and added anti-chaffing tape
between the upper and lower cowl sections. Then I made one more
walk-around to make sure everything will be ready for first flight if
the weather cooperates this weekend. Building has been fun but after
all... the objective has always been to fly.
Ed Moody II
601XL/Jabiru/Sensenich GA
N4568G "Papa Goose"
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| Subject: | Re: Who was it that had instaled a Dynon A/P? |
Gig,
I have a Dynon D180 with both pitch and roll servos installed and working. The
mechanical servo installation was per the TruTrack guides. The electrical
hook-up and programming per the Dynon instructions was also straight forward.
Lance Gingell also has the Dynon A/P and was one of Dynon's beta testers.
Pics attached.
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David Gallagher
601 XL/Jabiru 3300
First flight 7/24/08
70 hours and climbing!
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| Subject: | Mid-Atlantic Fly-in |
Any of you folks attending this event?
I was thinking of driving down Saturday if anyone from the list was showing
up.- This is usually nicely done.- Some old war birds and some silly g
round applications of jet engines.
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Mid-Atlantic Fly-In
Event Tag(s): *Fly-in
Lumberton Regional Airport, Lumberton, NC, USA
Three
day fly-in with first class airshow. on-field camping, exhibits,
seminars and a great selection of light sport aircraft dealers. Large
group of warbirds. Visit our website for complete information.
http://www.mafsac.com
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| Subject: | Re: Who was it that had instaled a Dynon A/P? |
Dave, other than what came from Dynon, which I assume was just the servos, did
you make up a parts list? And is there a link to the Trutrack install instructions?
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W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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| Subject: | Re: Who was it that had instaled a Dynon A/P? |
Gig,
If the Dynon autopilot uses TruTrak servos, you can go to the TruTrak web site.?
More information there than you will ever need.
Jay
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From: Gig Giacona <wrgiacona@gmail.com>
Sent: Tue, 12 May 2009 8:17 am
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Who was it that had instaled a Dynon A/P?
Dave, other than what came from Dynon, which I assume was just the servos, did
you make up a parts list? And is there a link to the Trutrack install
instructions?
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W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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| Subject: | Re: Who was it that had instaled a Dynon A/P? |
Gig,
Here is what you need for the physical installation of TruTrak servos in a 601XL.
Jay
-----Original Message-----
From: Gig Giacona <wrgiacona@gmail.com>
Sent: Tue, 12 May 2009 8:17 am
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Who was it that had instaled a Dynon A/P?
Dave, other than what came from Dynon, which I assume was just the servos, did
you make up a parts list? And is there a link to the Trutrack install
instructions?
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W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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| Subject: | Re: Who was it that had instaled a Dynon A/P? |
Comparing Dave's pics to the TruTrack drawings there sure looks like there is
some more stuff on Dave's elevator cable connection.
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W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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| Subject: | Re: Who was it that had instaled a Dynon A/P? |
Gig,
David is correct. I'm beta testing for Dynon. My install is very similar to his
excellent pictures.
The physical install of the roll servo is a 'drop in' for the trutrak. The pitch
servo depicted in the trutrak documentation doesn't appear workable at all,
so I did mine differently. David did his the same way. The only difference is
that mine came with a little dark red pulley for the upper elevator cable INSTEAD
of the apparent 4 flanged guide on David's (which looks easier to install!).
Oh, and what took you so long?....I was copying your ideas at the start!!! (just
teasing!!).
Cheers,
..lance
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Zodiac XL/Jab 3300
http://lancegingell.com
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| Subject: | Re: Who was it that had instaled a Dynon A/P? |
lgingell wrote:
> Gig,
>
>
>
> Oh, and what took you so long?....I was copying your ideas at the start!!! (just
teasing!!).
>
> Cheers,
> ..lance
I'm lazy and slow. No question about it. South Arkansas weather sucks it is either
too cold or too hot. And the wiring has been kicking my butt which other than
hooking up the wings is really all I have to finish.
I hate wiring so much that now I want to add the both roll and pitch servos. Did
a I mention that I was a masochist as well.
To paraphrase the great Samuel L Jackson in the best airplane movie in years, "I'm
sick and tired of the Mutha Fracking WIRES in this Mutha Fracking Plane."
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W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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| Subject: | Re: Who was it that had instaled a Dynon A/P? |
Gig,
The aluminum support structure required to mount the servos do not come from Dynon.
You will fabricate them yourself. The roll servo needs the "generic push-pull
mounting kit" to go with it. All it is are two rod end bearings and an
aluminum tube to connect them. You can probably buy the parts individually from
Spruce and save a few bucks. The capstan servo for pitch does not need any
other hardware kit to go with it. Other than contorting yourself into the area
behind the seats, the installation was not bad. I estimate I took about
8-10 hours for each servo.
Buy the more powerful SV42 servo for roll, not the SV32 that Dynon recommends.
You will want the stronger servo for a 601. Same price, but a bit heavier.
Mount the servo rod to the control stick arm as low as possible to get the most
moment-arm force.
The SV32 capstan servo for pitch is adequate. I had to move one of the rudder
cables up a tad to get clearance from the servo body. That explains the piece
of aluminum riveted to the rear frame channel where the old through hole was.
Good luck,
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David Gallagher
601 XL/Jabiru 3300
First flight 7/24/08
70 hours and climbing!
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| Subject: | Re: Who was it that had instaled a Dynon A/P? |
So basicly,
SV32C (capstan), Retail
(Includes SV32C: 100754-002, Capstan Accessory Kit: 101116-
000)
$750 100854-002
SV42 (standard output arm), Retail
(Includes SV42: 101008-000, Limiting Bracket Kit: 101025-000)
$750 101058-000
AP74 Dedicated Autopilot Interface Module Horizontal, Retail
(Includes AP74 Horizontal: 100756-001, AP74/AP76 Mounting
Tray: 101049-000, AP74/AP76 Connector Kit: 100831-004, 7/64
Hex Wrench: 100556-000)
$450 100852-001
I don't see a specific "generic push-pull mounting kit." Is that included in the
SV42 kit?
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W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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| Subject: | Re: What did you do today? |
the first ones i did were bare metal these came out great
now i would like ti try on old but prepped existing in other words not bare
metal
Larry
From: craig@craigandjean.com
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: What did you do today?
Are you saying that even after your prep=92ed you still had some old conven
tional paint on the surface? Everything I have read says you have to have b
are metal or a first layer of the same powder coat. Since you will cure it
at 400-450 degrees F I=92d be worried about the effect of the high heat on
the old paint. But everything I have done was new aluminum so I don=92t hav
e much to go on. The nice thing about aluminum is that no matter how bad yo
ur oven is the whole item quickly reaches a uniform temperature.
-- Craig
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Sent: Monday=2C May 11=2C 2009 6:30 PM
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: What did you do today?
Craig im new to powder coat painting ? can you paint a powder paint over
an existing standard base paint provided you have sanded first? i used a
powder on my valve covers which i sand blasted=2C wire wheeled and for al
l purposes were raw metal finish
i then baked in oven 300 until no more smoke was visible cooled then powd
er painted and was very pleased with finish. they will be seen at CC#14 in
Lowell Ma. on the 22nd of this month
Larry
> From: craig@craigandjean.com
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: What did you do today?
> Date: Sun=2C 10 May 2009 19:45:10 -0600
>
>
> I (re)powder coated one of the sub-panels on my instrument panel last nig
ht.
> BTW: if you ever need to remove powder coat acetone didn't touch it but
> Permatex Gasket Remover (item #80646) made short work of it. And it's "kn
own
> by the State of California to cause cancer and birth defects or other
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| Subject: | Re: What did you do today? |
All-
The attached is self-explanitory.
Bill
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Lawrence Webber
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 1:30 PM
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: What did you do today?
the first ones i did were bare metal these came out great
now i would like ti try on old but prepped existing in other words not
bare metal
Larry
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From: craig@craigandjean.com
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: What did you do today?
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 20:04:12 -0600
Are you saying that even after your prep=92ed you still had some old
conventional paint on the surface? Everything I have read says you have
to have bare metal or a first layer of the same powder coat. Since you
will cure it at 400-450 degrees F I=92d be worried about the effect of
the high heat on the old paint. But everything I have done was new
aluminum so I don=92t have much to go on. The nice thing about aluminum
is that no matter how bad your oven is the whole item quickly reaches a
uniform temperature.
-- Craig
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lawrence
Webber
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 6:30 PM
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: What did you do today?
Craig im new to powder coat painting ? can you paint a powder paint
over
an existing standard base paint provided you have sanded first? i
used a powder on my valve covers which i sand blasted, wire wheeled and
for all purposes were raw metal finish
i then baked in oven 300 until no more smoke was visible cooled then
powder painted and was very pleased with finish. they will be seen at
CC#14 in Lowell Ma. on the 22nd of this month
Larry
> From: craig@craigandjean.com
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: What did you do today?
> Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 19:45:10 -0600
>
<craig@craigandjean.com>
>
> I (re)powder coated one of the sub-panels on my instrument panel
last night.
> BTW: if you ever need to remove powder coat acetone didn't touch it
but
> Permatex Gasket Remover (item #80646) made short work of it. And
it's "known
> by the State of California to cause cancer and birth defects or
other
> reproductive harm"!
>
> Today I'm mounting switches and instruments.
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>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Who was it that had instaled a Dynon A/P? |
Gig,
Look all the way to the bottom of Dynon's order/price form for the generic push-pull
kit. It is clumped in with the RV install kits. You will need to purchase
a 1/4X28 tap. The kit's aluminum tube gets custom fit by you for length,
then tapped for the rod end bearings. I also had to buy some AN3H-3A drilled
head bolts to mount the servos to the brackets. The servo's have threaded holes,
so the bolt heads need safety wired. My picture above shows regular bolts
there for the initial fit-up since I did not have the drilled head bolts on hand
at the time.
Good luck,
--------
David Gallagher
601 XL/Jabiru 3300
First flight 7/24/08
70 hours and climbing!
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| Subject: | Re: Who was it that had instaled a Dynon A/P? |
Thanks guys,
I assume you both installed the AP74?
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W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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| Subject: | Re: What did you do today? |
Made the blanks for the flaperon ribs today.
Kevin
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Mark Twain: Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that
you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail
away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream.
Discover.
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| Subject: | Re: What did you do today? |
I bought the Sears wrench and it works great.
--- On Mon, 5/11/09, JohnDRead@aol.com <JohnDRead@aol.com> wrote:
> From: JohnDRead@aol.com <JohnDRead@aol.com>
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: What did you do today?
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Date: Monday, May 11, 2009, 9:51 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sears has a good one, about $70.00 as I recall. It was
> within 1 in. oz when
> I check calibration. do not archive.
>
> John
> Read
> CH701 - Elbert CO - Jabiru 3300
>
> Phone: 303-648-3261
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> Cell: 719-494-4567
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> In a message dated 5/11/2009 8:07:34 A.M. Mountain
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> hansinla@mac.com writes:
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> Zenith-List message posted by: "hansriet"
> <hansinla@mac.com>
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> I
> researched torque wrenches, to no avail. If anybody has
> tips, it will be
> appreciated.
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| Subject: | 6 years and 1150 hours |
Greetings,
The first flight of N601RT was six years ago today (5/12/03). Since that
time we have logged 1150 hours on the engine hour meter in the Grand Rapids Technology
EIS. 1292 take offs and landings.
I spent about 1500 hours over 8 years building N601RT from the standard kit. Ive
made numerous improvements/changes before (which is one reason for the long
build time) and after the first flight. Its a great feeling to build and fly your
own airplane. Those of you still building, keep at it. The personal satisfaction
is great. My CH601HDS is great fun and
relatively inexpensive to fly.
Regards,
Roy
N601RT: 2003 CH601HDS, nose gear, Rotax 912ULS, All electric, IFR equipped, 1159hrs
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