Zenith-List Digest Archive

Mon 05/25/09


Total Messages Posted: 10



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 04:16 AM - Chat Room Reminder (George Race)
     2. 08:40 AM - wing bolt torques (michael lord)
     3. 10:01 AM - Re: wing bolt torques (Paul Mulwitz)
     4. 01:29 PM - question on CH601-HD (Carlos Sa)
     5. 03:42 PM - Re: question on CH601-HD (George Swinford)
     6. 03:51 PM - Re: question on CH601-HD (Carlos Sa)
     7. 04:10 PM - Re: Chat Room Reminder (leinad)
     8. 07:20 PM - wing bolt torque (michael lord)
     9. 07:51 PM - Re: wing bolt torque (Ashley)
    10. 08:13 PM - Re: wing bolt torque (T. Graziano)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:16:31 AM PST US
    From: "George Race" <mykitairplane@mrrace.com>
    Subject: Chat Room Reminder
    Live Chat Room every Monday evening around 8:00 EDT http://www.mykitairplane.com <blocked::http://www.mykitairplane.com/> Click on the Chat Room link on the page. George "Check Out My New Access Opening Kit" Do Not Archive


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    Time: 08:40:02 AM PST US
    From: "michael lord" <mlord001@new.rr.com>
    Subject: wing bolt torques
    What torque are you setting your AN 5 wing nuts at. The Torque tables on the net say 60 to 85 ft lbs for shear nuts and 100 to 140 ft lbs for tension nuts. I was putting the final torque on them yesterday and they are at 40 ft lbs now and seem very tight. Are we in shear or tension? I thought i would check rather than screw up at this stage of the game. Thanks Mike Lord 601 XL N526M Checking things out before final airwothiness check.


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    Time: 10:01:25 AM PST US
    From: Paul Mulwitz <psm@att.net>
    Subject: Re: wing bolt torques
    HI Mike, I think you have confused foot-pounds with inch-pounds. That would make a 12 to 1 difference. I think the proper torque for AN-5 bolts is around 100 to 140 inch-pounds. Paul XL grounded At 08:25 AM 5/25/2009, you wrote: >What torque are you setting your AN 5 wing nuts at. >The Torque tables on the net say 60 to 85 ft lbs for shear nuts >and 100 to 140 ft lbs for tension nuts. I was putting the final torque >on them yesterday and they are at 40 ft lbs now and seem very >tight. Are we in shear or tension? I thought i would check rather than > screw up at this stage of the game. >Thanks >Mike Lord >601 XL N526M


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    Time: 01:29:29 PM PST US
    Subject: question on CH601-HD
    From: Carlos Sa <carlossa52@gmail.com>
    Hello, Does anyone know the position of extrusion 6V11-5 in relation to the spar? My plans do not show it (and, of course, ZAC is closed today)... Thanks Carlos


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    Time: 03:42:44 PM PST US
    From: "George Swinford" <grs-pms@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: question on CH601-HD
    Carlos: My drawings show the forward end of 6-V11-5 to be 45mm ahead of the front surface of the spar web. I can't remember how I measured that distance with the lower skin in place. George ----- Original Message ----- From: Carlos Sa To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 1:25 PM Subject: Zenith-List: question on CH601-HD Hello, Does anyone know the position of extrusion 6V11-5 in relation to the spar? My plans do not show it (and, of course, ZAC is closed today)... Thanks Carlos


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    Time: 03:51:11 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: question on CH601-HD
    From: Carlos Sa <carlossa52@gmail.com>
    Should be easy to measure at the extremeties of the centre section - Thanks, George Carlos 2009/5/25 George Swinford <grs-pms@comcast.net> > Carlos: > > My drawings show the forward end of 6-V11-5 to be 45mm ahead of the front > surface of the spar web. I can't remember how I measured that distance with > the lower skin in place. > > George >


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    Time: 04:10:53 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Chat Room Reminder
    From: "leinad" <leinad@hughes.net>
    George's link didn't work for me so I'm posting it from the forum. Dan Dempsey www.mykitairplane.com Click on the link on the page. -------- Scratch building XL with Corvair Engine Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=245323#245323


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    Time: 07:20:10 PM PST US
    From: "michael lord" <mlord001@new.rr.com>
    Subject: wing bolt torque
    Hi Paul Thanks for your response. But I double checked the AN Bolt Torque chart and I still come up with 60 to 85 Ft. Lbs. for AN 5 Nuts in shear and 100 to 140 Ft. Lbs In tension. It doesn't make any sense to me either. It seems way to tight. Where are our engineers. Regards Mike Lord


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    Time: 07:51:42 PM PST US
    From: "Ashley" <ashleyw@gvtc.com>
    Subject: Re: wing bolt torque
    Michael, Check you Zenith construction standards CS #407. 100-140 for the AN365 nuts and 60-85 for the AN316 nuts for AN5 bolts. Both are inch-pounds Floyd Wilkes 601 XL ----- Original Message ----- From: michael lord To: Zenith-List@matronics.com Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 9:15 PM Subject: Zenith-List: wing bolt torque Hi Paul Thanks for your response. But I double checked the AN Bolt Torque chart and I still come up with 60 to 85 Ft. Lbs. for AN 5 Nuts in shear and 100 to 140 Ft. Lbs In tension. It doesn't make any sense to me either. It seems way to tight. Where are our engineers. Regards Mike Lord


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    Time: 08:13:47 PM PST US
    From: "T. Graziano" <tonyplane@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: wing bolt torque
    Ref AC43.13-1B "Acceptable Methods, Techniques, and Practices AIRCRAFT INSPECTION, REPAIR & ALTERATIONS"., PAGE 7-9 Table 7-1 "Recommended torque values (inch-pounds)" FOR 5/16-24 BOLT 100-140 WITH TENSION TYPE NUTS AND 60-80 WITH SHEAR TYPE NUTS. Again, see that the values are in inch-pounds. Tony Graziano XL/Jab 492 hrs ----- Original Message ----- From: michael lord To: Zenith-List@matronics.com Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 9:15 PM Subject: Zenith-List: wing bolt torque Hi Paul Thanks for your response. But I double checked the AN Bolt Torque chart and I still come up with 60 to 85 Ft. Lbs. for AN 5 Nuts in shear and 100 to 140 Ft. Lbs In tension. It doesn't make any sense to me either. It seems way to tight. Where are our engineers. Regards Mike Lord




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