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     1. 07:42 AM - Landing "handling" fee (LarryMcFarland)
     2. 09:45 AM - Re: Re: Flutter Testing shows 601/650 OK (Edward Moody II)
     3. 10:48 AM - Re: Re: Flutter Testing shows 601/650 OK (wade jones)
     4. 11:04 AM - Re: Re: Flutter Testing shows 601/650 OK (Craig Payne)
     5. 01:08 PM - Re: Cutting holes with one or more flat sides (Craig Payne)
     6. 05:52 PM - Re: Cutting holes with one or more flat sides (Ron Lendon)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Landing "handling" fee | 
      
      
      
      Anyone flying to Oshkosh this year or traveling thru the Davenport Quad 
      Cities area should be advised to consider the following item on 
      Davenport Airport (DVN)
      
      Yesterday, a fellow RV-12 builder was going to fly into Davenport with 
      his RV-10.  He called Carver Aero and inquired about the newly imposed 
      "landing fee" imposed at Davenport.  He was informed that there would 
      not be "landing fee" or a "tie-down fee".  BUT, there would be a $25 
      "handling fee" if fuel is not purchased.  He was initially informed that 
      the minimum would be 25 gallons.  He has flown all over the country in 
      the RV-10 and cannot think of any airport with a fee as large as this 
      for someone who wants to park on the ramp for 2-3 hours.  $25 is quite 
      steep and will most likely drive visitors away from the Davenport area 
      as opposed to attracting any new visitors.
      
      Wanted to ensure no one is surprised!
      
      -- 
      Marty Santic ----- W9EAA
      My RV-12 (Light Sport Aircraft) Build Log - 
      http://www.martysrv12.blogspot.com/
      
      do not archive
      
      Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Flutter Testing shows 601/650 OK | 
      
      I nearly killed a bird today. We have a family of Mottled Ducks (black 
      mallards) that like to sit on our runway. So far only a few tense 
      moments and no bird strikes. I wouldn't mind if these ducks would get a 
      bit more extinct.
      
      Ed
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Flutter Testing shows 601/650 OK | 
      
      Hey Ed ,what do you expect when you named your plane" Papa Goose".
      Wade  Jones  South East Texas
      
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Edward Moody II 
        To: zenith-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 11:44 AM
        Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Flutter Testing shows 601/650 OK
      
      
        I nearly killed a bird today. We have a family of Mottled Ducks (black 
      mallards) that like to sit on our runway. So far only a few tense 
      moments and no bird strikes. I wouldn't mind if these ducks would get a 
      bit more extinct.
      
        Ed
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Flutter Testing shows 601/650 OK | 
      
      Good thing he didn't name it California Condor.
      
      
      -- Craig
      
      
      Do not archive
      
      
      From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of wade jones
      Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 11:45 AM
      Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Flutter Testing shows 601/650 OK
      
      
      Hey Ed ,what do you expect when you named your plane" Papa Goose".
      
      Wade  Jones  South East Texas
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      
      From: Edward Moody II <mailto:dredmoody@cox.net>  
      
      
      Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 11:44 AM
      
      Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Flutter Testing shows 601/650 OK
      
      
      I nearly killed a bird today. We have a family of Mottled Ducks (black
      mallards) that like to sit on our runway. So far only a few tense moments
      and no bird strikes. I wouldn't mind if these ducks would get a bit more
      extinct.
      
      
      Ed
      
      
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| Subject:  | Cutting holes with one or more flat sides | 
      
      
      Thanks, that is essentially what I did for the ignition switch. It won't
      rotate but there is some slop. For the smaller parts it will be more
      challenging.
      
      -- Craig
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Mulwitz
      Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 9:24 PM
      Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Cutting holes with one or more flat sides
      
      
      Hi Craig,
      
      Let me recommend the following procedure.
      
      First, make a model of the hole you want out of cardboard, plastic, 
      plywood, or some other flat material.  Then position the model where 
      you want the hole and mark the outside edge with a Sharpie  (I like 
      ultra fine ones for this).  Now all you have to do is remove the 
      material inside the mark.
      
      I usually start with a small drill followed by a step drill.  For a 
      large hole such as the one needed for a radio I make 4 holes with the 
      step drill near each corner.  That makes enough room to use snips to 
      start sneaking up on the final line.    After the snips, I tend to 
      use a Dremel tool with a Christmas Tree shaped rotary file.  This 
      allows me to start with the larger diameter to do rough cutting and 
      finish with progressively smaller diameter portion of the file.
      
      When all done removing material I run a fine file around both sides 
      of the edge to remove burrs.
      
      I hope this helps.
      
      Paul
      XL grounded
      
      
      At 07:56 PM 5/29/2009, you wrote:
      
      >A number of the items I'm mounting in my panel are designed to be kept from
      >rotating by a "flat" or two on their threaded shafts. The ignition key
      >switch and Bose (LEMO) headphone jacks are this way. Short of a custom
      punch
      >how do you cut a hole with the matching flats? For the ignition switch I
      >enlarged a smaller hole with a needle file. It will work but it isn't the
      >tightest fit. Any other approaches?
      >
      >-- Craig (701)
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Cutting holes with one or more flat sides | 
      
      
      The method Paul refers to is the way to go.  I call it making a template.  It needs
      to be accurate, but as a template it can be remade or repaired as many times
      as necessary.
      
      Once the template is right, use it to layout your detail.  Now is where skill and
      patience come into play.  Use whatever tools but creep up on the line slowly
      and DO NOT go past the line.  When you get close to the line start test fitting
      the object.  Continue this till you either split the line or the part just
      slips in.
      
      Hope this helps,
      
      --------
      Ron Lendon, Clinton Township, MI
      WW Corvair with Roy's Garage 5th bearing
      Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder ;-)
      http://www.mykitlog.com/rlendon
      Corvair Engine Prints:
      http://home.comcast.net/~rlendon/site/
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=246075#246075
      
      
 
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