---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 05/30/09: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:42 AM - Landing "handling" fee (LarryMcFarland) 2. 09:45 AM - Re: Re: Flutter Testing shows 601/650 OK (Edward Moody II) 3. 10:48 AM - Re: Re: Flutter Testing shows 601/650 OK (wade jones) 4. 11:04 AM - Re: Re: Flutter Testing shows 601/650 OK (Craig Payne) 5. 01:08 PM - Re: Cutting holes with one or more flat sides (Craig Payne) 6. 05:52 PM - Re: Cutting holes with one or more flat sides (Ron Lendon) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:42:58 AM PST US From: LarryMcFarland Subject: Zenith-List: Landing "handling" fee Anyone flying to Oshkosh this year or traveling thru the Davenport Quad Cities area should be advised to consider the following item on Davenport Airport (DVN) Yesterday, a fellow RV-12 builder was going to fly into Davenport with his RV-10. He called Carver Aero and inquired about the newly imposed "landing fee" imposed at Davenport. He was informed that there would not be "landing fee" or a "tie-down fee". BUT, there would be a $25 "handling fee" if fuel is not purchased. He was initially informed that the minimum would be 25 gallons. He has flown all over the country in the RV-10 and cannot think of any airport with a fee as large as this for someone who wants to park on the ramp for 2-3 hours. $25 is quite steep and will most likely drive visitors away from the Davenport area as opposed to attracting any new visitors. Wanted to ensure no one is surprised! -- Marty Santic ----- W9EAA My RV-12 (Light Sport Aircraft) Build Log - http://www.martysrv12.blogspot.com/ do not archive Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:45:47 AM PST US From: "Edward Moody II" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Flutter Testing shows 601/650 OK I nearly killed a bird today. We have a family of Mottled Ducks (black mallards) that like to sit on our runway. So far only a few tense moments and no bird strikes. I wouldn't mind if these ducks would get a bit more extinct. Ed ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:48:01 AM PST US From: "wade jones" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Flutter Testing shows 601/650 OK Hey Ed ,what do you expect when you named your plane" Papa Goose". Wade Jones South East Texas ----- Original Message ----- From: Edward Moody II To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 11:44 AM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Flutter Testing shows 601/650 OK I nearly killed a bird today. We have a family of Mottled Ducks (black mallards) that like to sit on our runway. So far only a few tense moments and no bird strikes. I wouldn't mind if these ducks would get a bit more extinct. Ed ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:04:49 AM PST US From: "Craig Payne" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: Flutter Testing shows 601/650 OK Good thing he didn't name it California Condor. -- Craig Do not archive From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of wade jones Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 11:45 AM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Flutter Testing shows 601/650 OK Hey Ed ,what do you expect when you named your plane" Papa Goose". Wade Jones South East Texas ----- Original Message ----- From: Edward Moody II Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 11:44 AM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Flutter Testing shows 601/650 OK I nearly killed a bird today. We have a family of Mottled Ducks (black mallards) that like to sit on our runway. So far only a few tense moments and no bird strikes. I wouldn't mind if these ducks would get a bit more extinct. Ed href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List">http://www.matronhref "http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:08:57 PM PST US From: "Craig Payne" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Cutting holes with one or more flat sides Thanks, that is essentially what I did for the ignition switch. It won't rotate but there is some slop. For the smaller parts it will be more challenging. -- Craig -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Mulwitz Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 9:24 PM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Cutting holes with one or more flat sides Hi Craig, Let me recommend the following procedure. First, make a model of the hole you want out of cardboard, plastic, plywood, or some other flat material. Then position the model where you want the hole and mark the outside edge with a Sharpie (I like ultra fine ones for this). Now all you have to do is remove the material inside the mark. I usually start with a small drill followed by a step drill. For a large hole such as the one needed for a radio I make 4 holes with the step drill near each corner. That makes enough room to use snips to start sneaking up on the final line. After the snips, I tend to use a Dremel tool with a Christmas Tree shaped rotary file. This allows me to start with the larger diameter to do rough cutting and finish with progressively smaller diameter portion of the file. When all done removing material I run a fine file around both sides of the edge to remove burrs. I hope this helps. Paul XL grounded At 07:56 PM 5/29/2009, you wrote: >A number of the items I'm mounting in my panel are designed to be kept from >rotating by a "flat" or two on their threaded shafts. The ignition key >switch and Bose (LEMO) headphone jacks are this way. Short of a custom punch >how do you cut a hole with the matching flats? For the ignition switch I >enlarged a smaller hole with a needle file. It will work but it isn't the >tightest fit. Any other approaches? > >-- Craig (701) ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:52:39 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Cutting holes with one or more flat sides From: "Ron Lendon" The method Paul refers to is the way to go. I call it making a template. It needs to be accurate, but as a template it can be remade or repaired as many times as necessary. Once the template is right, use it to layout your detail. Now is where skill and patience come into play. Use whatever tools but creep up on the line slowly and DO NOT go past the line. When you get close to the line start test fitting the object. Continue this till you either split the line or the part just slips in. 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