---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 06/18/09: 16 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:23 AM - ZBAG et al (JohnKearney@att.net) 2. 05:43 AM - Re: Re: FAA Registration (Bill Steer) 3. 05:46 AM - Re: FAA Registration (Bill Steer) 4. 06:34 AM - Re: FAA Registration (Gig Giacona) 5. 07:03 AM - Re: Re: FAA Registration (Bill Pagan) 6. 07:39 AM - What Did You Do Today? (Bill Pagan) 7. 09:16 AM - Re: FAA Registration (Gig Giacona) 8. 09:21 AM - Electric XL (Joe) 9. 09:46 AM - Re: What did you do today? (Gig Giacona) 10. 11:12 AM - Re: Instrument panel (Roger Pritchard) 11. 12:52 PM - Must Sell My 75% Done 601XL (victor verdev) 12. 12:52 PM - Re: Re: FAA Registration (Davcoberly@wmconnect.com) 13. 01:51 PM - Re: FAA Registration (Gig Giacona) 14. 04:12 PM - Re: Must Sell My 75% Done 601XL (hansriet) 15. 09:54 PM - Re: Instrument panel (Thruster87) 16. 10:49 PM - Re: Instrument panel (annken100) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:23:46 AM PST US From: JohnKearney@att.net Subject: Zenith-List: ZBAG et al ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:43:58 AM PST US From: Bill Steer Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: FAA Registration The price of a DAR must depend on who it is. I've heard numbers like $400 for an inspection, but mine cost me $90. Not exactly free, but not very pricey, either. Of course, he lives right on the field where I keep my plane, so that may have had something to do with it. Bill cookwithgas wrote: > > David: > > Mine came back really fast - about 1-1/2 week if I remember correctly. The waiting comes if you want the FAA to inspect your airplane. My guy took three months to fit me in. If you hire a DAR it can be much faster, but I think it is kind of pricey. The FAA guy was free. > > You forget about all the waiting you get that pink slip in your hands! > > Good luck! > > Scott in Texas > 601XL/Corvair > 136 hours and climbing. > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:46:29 AM PST US From: Bill Steer Subject: Re: Zenith-List: FAA Registration ...and then there are all of the other items in the Yes/No checklist in the program letter. BTW, where are you located? Is wmconnect perhaps in Westmoreland county, PA? Bill do not archive Davcoberly@wmconnect.com wrote: > According to the FAA web site my reserved N# now shows assigned, > certificate issued, status valid but still no paperwork in the mail. > DAR at the ready. After I get my weight and balance done. David > Coberly 601XL / Corvair > * > * ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:34:44 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: FAA Registration From: "Gig Giacona" Davcoberly(at)wmconnect.c wrote: > According to the FAA web site my reserved N# now shows assigned, certificate issued, status valid but still no paperwork in the mail. DAR at the ready. After I get my weight and balance done. David Coberly 601XL / Corvair What date does the database show it was issued? It may haven't gotten lost in the mail. I got mine in about 10 days after I mailed it. Call this number and ask the FAA where it is. (866) 762-9434 -------- W.R. "Gig" Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=248892#248892 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:03:59 AM PST US From: Bill Pagan Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: FAA Registration The DAR can charge pretty much whatever he thinks his/her services are wort h.- $90 is a real bargain.- The norm is around $400.- Some FAA office s will do the inspection (free) but some claim to not have the manpower.- It was along time ago (1999) but then the Cleveland Office sent out an ins pector to certify my RV, didn't charge anything and it only took about 2 we eks to get an appointment.- I was about 75 miles or so from the Cleveland office at the time. Bill Pagan EAA Tech Counselor #4395 601XL QBK/Corvair/N565BW (RES) --- On Thu, 6/18/09, Bill Steer wrote: From: Bill Steer Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: FAA Registration The price of a DAR must depend on who it is.- I've heard numbers like $40 0 for an inspection, but mine cost me $90.- Not exactly free, but not ver y pricey, either.- Of course, he lives right on the field where I keep my plane, so that may have had something to do with it. Bill cookwithgas wrote: > > David: > > Mine came back really fast - about 1-1/2 week if I remember correctly.- The waiting comes if you want the FAA to inspect- your airplane.- My g uy took three months to fit me in.- If you hire a DAR it can be much fast er, but I think it is kind of pricey.- The FAA guy was free. > You forget about all the waiting you get that pink slip in your hands! > > Good luck! > > Scott in Texas > 601XL/Corvair > 136 hours and climbing. > > >- --- le, List Admin. =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:39:01 AM PST US From: Bill Pagan Subject: Zenith-List: What Did You Do Today? Enough arguing, lets build airplanes.- - Put her hat on for the 1st time today.- Pics self explanatory Bill Pagan EAA Tech Counselor #4395 601XL QBK/Corvair/N565BW (RES) =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:16:08 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: FAA Registration From: "Gig Giacona" The guy who is going to do mine for $500. I know that is at the high end of the spectrum but I've heard nothing but good things about him. He pre-does a bunch of the paperwork that the applicant would have to do. Also the FAA inspector who gave me his name and number told me that he would be happy to come down and do it for free but there are some drawbacks. He'd probably would be able to make it for a month after I try to set a date. If there is any problem that is found that would cause him not be able to issue the AW certificate and I could make the fix real quick he would end the inspection and I would have to reschedule again once the problem was corrected. Basically, at least in Arkansas, the FSDO doesn't want to be in the inspection business. Don't get me wrong. They will do them and they will be nice guys but they aren't as flexible as a DAR. I don't want to risk a multi-month delay once I finish my plane and am wiling to pay not to. -------- W.R. "Gig" Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=248919#248919 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:21:31 AM PST US From: "Joe" Subject: Zenith-List: Electric XL Guys, Take a look at this website! Some guy put together an all electric plane that actually looks like a winner! It cruises at around 155 and actually stays in the air for more than an hour. The reason I'm sending this is because I think the XL would be a perfect test bed for a project like this because of the weight that it can carry firewall forward. This should get your creative juices flowing! I think it will be only a few years from now you will see some electric XL's. http://www.skyspark.eu/web/eng/index.php >From Avweb, Experimenters have made great strides in recent years with electric power for small aircraft, and a step forward took place last week in Italy when a new battery-powered airplane flew for the first time, then two days later reached 155 mph, which is expected to be a new world record for the category. The Project is a joint enterprise between engineering company DigiSky and Turin Polytechnic University. The two-seat Pioneer Alpi 300 is powered by a 75-kW electric motor using brushless technology and lithium polymer batteries. Electronic control systems make it possible to modulate RPM and torque, "with dynamics which are far beyond what it is attainable in reciprocating engines," and the engine is very reliable and long-lasting, according to the SkySpark Web site. Joe in Oshkosh ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:46:59 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: What did you do today? From: "Gig Giacona" pdn8r(at)yahoo.com wrote: > > > Put her hat on for the 1st time today. Pics self explanatory > > Bill Pagan EAA Tech Counselor #4395 > 601XL QBK/Corvair/N565BW (RES) You are on the verge of the absolute worse point in the 601 building process. My prayers are with you. On the plus side you waited until it was nice and warm. It will help. -------- W.R. "Gig" Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=248927#248927 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:12:19 AM PST US From: Roger Pritchard Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Instrument panel Ken, - It's beautiful.- Ben and I are jealous. - We have the OVP and the fuel pressure gage in,thank you for the help. Roger - The vast majority of components are installed and about 25% of the wiring i s done. -As the last picture shows, I have a bit more wiring to do! Ken Pavlou -------- 601 XL / Corvair Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=248756#248756 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_00591_216.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_00561_134.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_00581_137.jpg y Browse, Chat, FAQ, ="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List" target="_blank">http: ==== http://forums.mle, List Admin. ==== =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 12:52:55 PM PST US From: victor verdev Subject: Zenith-List: Must Sell My 75% Done 601XL I recently lost ALL my retirement benefits from GM/Delphi and cannot afford to complete and fly my 601XL project. Years back I completed and flew A Pitts S1 project. All work on my 601 is top quality. Complete factory Tri gear kit with many options. includes everything except exhaust, prop and battery. vjvus@yahoo.com ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 12:52:55 PM PST US From: Davcoberly@wmconnect.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: FAA Registration Gig, Mailed paperwork on the 5th showed issued on the 12th nothing as of the 18th I'm only a couple hundred miles from FAA in OKC could have walked here by now. David Coberly ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 01:51:59 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: FAA Registration From: "Gig Giacona" Davcoberly(at)wmconnect.c wrote: > Gig, > Mailed paperwork on the 5th showed issued on the 12th nothing as of the 18th I'm only a couple hundred miles from FAA in OKC could have walked here by now. > David Coberly I think mine was mailed 2 work days after issue. If it is the same with you that makes the 16th the mail date. I'd give them till Tuesday and call them. Never under estimate the slowness of the USPS. -------- W.R. "Gig" Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=249007#249007 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 04:12:52 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Must Sell My 75% Done 601XL From: "hansriet" I'm really sorry to hear that. I hope that the financial tide will turn for you so you can enjoy retirement soon. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=249027#249027 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 09:54:46 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Instrument panel From: "Thruster87" How do find getting in and out with the throttle quadrant where it is??? Nice panel. Cheers Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=249063#249063 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 10:49:30 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Instrument panel From: "annken100" Thruster87 wrote: > How do you find getting in and out with the throttle quadrant where it is??? Nice panel. Cheers The quadrant is off to the side enough that it doesn't get in the way of me getting in and out. 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