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1. 03:38 AM - Re: Weight and Balance on 601XL / Corvair (Gary Ray)
2. 04:13 AM - Re: Weight and Balance on 601XL / Corvair (Paul Mulwitz)
3. 04:39 AM - Re: Weight and Balance on 601XL / Corvair (Gary Ray)
4. 05:39 AM - Re: Weight and Balance on 601XL / Corvair (Phil Maxson)
5. 05:39 AM - Re: Re: What did you do today? (jaybannist@cs.com)
6. 05:54 AM - Re: What did you do today? (pavel569)
7. 06:09 AM - Re: Re: What did you do today? (jaybannist@cs.com)
8. 06:23 AM - Chat Room Reminder For "Digesters" (George Race)
9. 10:06 AM - POH -pilot operating handbook (Davcoberly@wmconnect.com)
10. 11:37 AM - Re: POH -pilot operating handbook (Bryan Martin)
11. 11:37 AM - Re: POH -pilot operating handbook (jaybannist@cs.com)
12. 11:47 AM - Re: Weight and Balance on 601XL / Corvair (mcjon77)
13. 12:11 PM - Re: POH -pilot operating handbook (Bill Pagan)
14. 12:22 PM - Re: [Probable Spam] POH -pilot operating handbook (LarryMcFarland)
15. 02:22 PM - Tron Guy's Zodiac XLi for sale (Jay Maynard)
16. 03:07 PM - Re: POH -pilot operating handbook (Elden Jacobson)
17. 03:22 PM - Re: POH -pilot operating handbook (jaybannist@cs.com)
18. 03:39 PM - Re: Tron Guy's Zodiac XLi for sale (Sabrina)
19. 04:14 PM - Re: Re: Tron Guy's Zodiac XLi for sale (Jay Maynard)
20. 04:26 PM - Re: Tron Guy's Zodiac XLi for sale (Elden Jacobson)
21. 04:38 PM - Re: POH -pilot operating handbook (Elden Jacobson)
22. 04:40 PM - Re: Tron Guy's Zodiac XLi for sale (Jay Maynard)
23. 07:51 PM - Re: Advice about gas tanks in 601. (Gary Gower)
24. 08:13 PM - Fantastic Flying on Father's Day (cookwithgas)
25. 08:43 PM - Re: Re: Tron Guy's Zodiac XLi for sale (John Smith)
26. 11:27 PM - Re: Must Sell My 75% Done 601XL (d.shrader)
27. 11:39 PM - Re: Re: Tron Guy's Zodiac XLi for sale (Jay Maynard)
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| Subject: | Re: Weight and Balance on 601XL / Corvair |
Mine came in at 812 lbs with the .016 rear skins. An Excel Graphical
Spreadsheet can be downloaded at this address.
My engine with Roy Szarafinski's 5th Bearing w/ no dynamo or
intake/exhaust manifolds weighed 216 lbs
http://www.ch601.org/builder%20resources.htm
Configuration: Every Part that William Wynne Makes for a 2700 cc ,
.060 Overbore Corvair Engine including:
WW SS Intake manifold Marvel Schebler MA3-SPA Carburetor
Falcon Heads An-6 SS Fuel Lines
WW SS Exhaust manifold WW Motor Mount
WW Nitrided Crankshaft WW Deep Oil Pan & Top Plate
Warp Drive HP 66 inch 2 bladed Prop WW Reconditioned Rear
Accessory Case-Oil Pump-Remote Oil Filter
13 inch spinner & bulkhead Safety Shaft
Roy Szarafinski's 5th bearing
Minimal paint/polished aluminum
Landing Lights, Navigation Lights, Strobe Lights, Taxi Lights
Upholstery, .060 instrument panel, Nut plated top forward skin, FW
Battery Mount w/ 18 Ahr 15 lb battery
Single point ground, Overvoltage Protection, Rear Deck Mic &
Accessory Ele.
Two Axis Electric Trim
Ventral Belly Access Panel
Anywhere Map ATC GPS
KLN 90B GPS, Narco Escort II Nav/Com, Dynon EFS-D10A, Auto Meter
gauges, VDO Tach
King 76A Transponder, Blind Encoder, Panel Dimmer,
Andair Fuel Valve & Gascolator and Braided SS AN-6 fuel lines from
main spar forward.
Gary Ray
davgray@sbcglobal.net
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From: Davcoberly@wmconnect.com
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 12:30 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Weight and Balance on 601XL / Corvair
To all,
I got the scales from my local EAA and did my W & B today. Empty
weight seems to high at 820 lbs this is with a Corvair full oil,
interior installed, drained all the fuel that the drains would drain but
didn't run the engine until dry, it has wing lockers, landing nav and
strobe lights, aileron trim, full panel of steam gauges plus GPS.
The CG computes out OK but still seems heavy on empty weight. What ya
think?
David Coberly 601XL / Corvair
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| Subject: | Re: Weight and Balance on 601XL / Corvair |
Hi Gary,
I guess your engine weight explains why the Corvair approach is so
much heavier than a Jabiru 3300.
The Jab. comes from the factory weighing 178 pounds (if I remember
correctly). That includes the engine, propeller mount flange,
integral alternator, starter, integral dual magnetos, dual
distributors with spark plug wiring, 12 spark plugs, carburetor,
mechanical fuel pump, intake distribution tubing, exhaust tubing,
muffler, tail pipe, fiberglass ducts for cooling air (replace
baffling) . I think that weight also includes engine mount isolators
and voltage regulator too, but I am not sure.
Paul
XL grounded
At 03:35 AM 6/21/2009, you wrote:
>My engine with Roy Szarafinski's 5th Bearing w/ no dynamo or
>intake/exhaust manifolds weighed 216 lbs
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| Subject: | Re: Weight and Balance on 601XL / Corvair |
I also have the WW front starter that was installed prior to weigh in.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Ray
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 6:35 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Weight and Balance on 601XL / Corvair
Mine came in at 812 lbs with the .016 rear skins. An Excel Graphical
Spreadsheet can be downloaded at this address.
My engine with Roy Szarafinski's 5th Bearing w/ no dynamo or
intake/exhaust manifolds weighed 216 lbs
http://www.ch601.org/builder%20resources.htm
Configuration: Every Part that William Wynne Makes for a 2700 cc
, .060 Overbore Corvair Engine including:
WW SS Intake manifold Marvel Schebler MA3-SPA Carburetor
Falcon Heads An-6 SS Fuel Lines
WW SS Exhaust manifold WW Motor Mount
WW Nitrided Crankshaft WW Deep Oil Pan & Top Plate
Warp Drive HP 66 inch 2 bladed Prop WW Reconditioned Rear
Accessory Case-Oil Pump-Remote Oil Filter
13 inch spinner & bulkhead Safety Shaft
Roy Szarafinski's 5th bearing
Minimal paint/polished aluminum
Landing Lights, Navigation Lights, Strobe Lights, Taxi Lights
Upholstery, .060 instrument panel, Nut plated top forward skin,
FW Battery Mount w/ 18 Ahr 15 lb battery
Single point ground, Overvoltage Protection, Rear Deck Mic &
Accessory Ele.
Two Axis Electric Trim
Ventral Belly Access Panel
Anywhere Map ATC GPS
KLN 90B GPS, Narco Escort II Nav/Com, Dynon EFS-D10A, Auto Meter
gauges, VDO Tach
King 76A Transponder, Blind Encoder, Panel Dimmer,
Andair Fuel Valve & Gascolator and Braided SS AN-6 fuel lines
from main spar forward.
Gary Ray
davgray@sbcglobal.net
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From: Davcoberly@wmconnect.com
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 12:30 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Weight and Balance on 601XL / Corvair
To all,
I got the scales from my local EAA and did my W & B today. Empty
weight seems to high at 820 lbs this is with a Corvair full oil,
interior installed, drained all the fuel that the drains would drain but
didn't run the engine until dry, it has wing lockers, landing nav and
strobe lights, aileron trim, full panel of steam gauges plus GPS.
The CG computes out OK but still seems heavy on empty weight. What
ya think?
David Coberly 601XL / Corvair
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| Subject: | Re: Weight and Balance on 601XL / Corvair |
My 601XL/Corvair weighs 777 pounds, starter and all. The battery is behind the
passenger's seat.
I don't know Jabirus were so much heavier than Corvairs.
Phil Maxson
Northwest New Jersey
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| Subject: | Re: What did you do today? |
Hey Pavel,
Love your brake pedals !!
I recognize the four leaf clover, the horse show and the "7", but what is the charm
on the right ?
Jay Bannister
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From: pavel569 <pm569@HOTMAIL.COM>
Sent: Sat, Jun 20, 2009 10:31 pm
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: What did you do today?
After a two weekends of disassembling, deburring, priming and cleaning (damn...I
hated the plane last Sunday) i started the assembly and riveting of front
fuselage, getting ready for top skin and canopy.
And with these lucky charm brake pedals, there is no way I can get into any
trouble in the air. :D
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Pavel
CA
Zodiac XL N581PL (Reserved)
Stratus Subaru EA-81
Tail, flaps, ailerons, wings done, fuselage is on the table ....
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| Subject: | Re: What did you do today? |
jaybannist(at)cs.com wrote:
>
> I recognize the four leaf clover, the horse show and the "7", but what is the
charm on the right ?
That's from 60's when my mom and dad where flying gliders in Czechoslovakia, they
always prayed for a good thermals to their weather god they named "Termoska"
which is the same word for thermal bottle. So the most right charm is thermos
bottle.
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Pavel
CA
Zodiac XL N581PL (Reserved)
Stratus Subaru EA-81
Tail, flaps, ailerons, wings done, fuselage is on the table ....
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| Subject: | Re: What did you do today? |
Pavel,? Thanks.? I understand, but never would have guessed.? - Jay
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From: pavel569 <pm569@HOTMAIL.COM>
Sent: Sun, Jun 21, 2009 7:53 am
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: What did you do today?
jaybannist(at)cs.com wrote:
>
> I recognize the four leaf clover, the horse show and the "7", but what is the
charm on the right ?
That's from 60's when my mom and dad where flying gliders in Czechoslovakia,
they always prayed for a good thermals to their weather god they named
"Termoska" which is the same word for thermal bottle. So the most right charm is
thermos bottle.
--------
Pavel
CA
Zodiac XL N581PL (Reserved)
Stratus Subaru EA-81
Tail, flaps, ailerons, wings done, fuselage is on the table ....
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| Subject: | Chat Room Reminder For "Digesters" |
Live Chat Room every Monday evening around 8:00 EDT
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Click on the Chat Room link on the page.
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| Subject: | POH -pilot operating handbook |
After searching Archives and Internet I still don't know how to make my POH
(for 601XL with a Corvair Engine) what has to be included what format I'm
am totally at a loss on this any help or suggestions on this appreciated.
David Coberly
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| Subject: | Re: POH -pilot operating handbook |
There is no clear cut format required for a POH for an amateur built
airplane in the U.S. I found a POH somewhere on the web for a 601HD.
It was basically formatted the same as the POH for a Cessna 172. I
modified it for my 601XL with a Subaru engine. I have posted a copy of
the Word file Here:
http://home.comcast.net/~bryanmmartin/Documents/601XLPOH.doc
You can download this file and modify it for your airplane if you want.
On Jun 21, 2009, at 1:05 PM, Davcoberly@wmconnect.com wrote:
> After searching Archives and Internet I still don't know how to make
> my POH (for 601XL with a Corvair Engine) what has to be included
> what format I'm am totally at a loss on this any help or suggestions
> on this appreciated. David Coberly
--
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N61BM, CH 601 XL,
RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
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| Subject: | Re: POH -pilot operating handbook |
David,
I made a POH for my airplane (601XL with a Corvair engine).? It is a compilation
of a lot of different POHs, but a WHOLE lot simpler than your typical certified
airplane POH.? Not a lot of CYA stuff.? I have it on WordPerfect formatted
to print landscape on 8 1/2 x 11 paper and cut down to around 5" x 7" to better
fit in the airplane.? There are 23 pages in all.? It is not totally complete.
Since I have not flown off the 40-hour test period, it doesn't have all the
numbers filled in.? I could make a pdf if you would like to review it.
The three view drawings and weight & balance pages are separate documents that
I could also reproduce as pdfs.
Jay
-----Original Message-----
From: Davcoberly@wmconnect.com
Sent: Sun, Jun 21, 2009 12:05 pm
Subject: Zenith-List: POH -pilot operating handbook
After searching Archives and Internet I still don't know how to make my POH (for
601XL with a Corvair Engine) what has to be included what format I'm am totally
at a loss on this any help or suggestions on this appreciated. David Coberly
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| Subject: | Re: Weight and Balance on 601XL / Corvair |
pmaxpmax(at)HOTMAIL.COM wrote:
> ...I don't know Jabirus were so much heavier than Corvairs...
Theiy're not. Jabirus are about 40-50lbs lighter than corvairs.
--------
Jon McDonald
Building Sonex #1287
Thinking ahead about a Zenith CH 701 :D
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| Subject: | Re: POH -pilot operating handbook |
Also a couple samples at www.ch601.org-
Bill Pagan
EAA Tech Counselor #4395
601XL QBK/Corvair/N565BW (RES)
--- On Sun, 6/21/09, Davcoberly@wmconnect.com <Davcoberly@wmconnect.com> wr
ote:
From: Davcoberly@wmconnect.com <Davcoberly@wmconnect.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: POH -pilot operating handbook
After searching Archives and Internet I still don't know how to make my POH
(for 601XL with a Corvair Engine) what has to be included what format I'm
am totally at a loss on this any help or suggestions on this appreciated. D
avid Coberly
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| Subject: | Re: POH -pilot operating handbook |
Hi David,
I've sent you my POH and you can look it over and make one that suits
your 601XL to suit.
I think it's a good guide and my annual inspection data sheets are on
the last pages.
Larry McFarland
Davcoberly@wmconnect.com wrote:
> After searching Archives and Internet I still don't know how to make
> my POH (for 601XL with a Corvair Engine) what has to be included what
> format I'm am totally at a loss on this any help or suggestions on
> this appreciated. David Coberly
> *
>
>
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| Subject: | Tron Guy's Zodiac XLi for sale |
Check out the eBay listing at
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160343673314 .
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http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net
Fairmont, MN (KFRM) (Yes, that's me!)
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| Subject: | Re: POH -pilot operating handbook |
Jay,
-
This is something that several of us would be delightedcto see
.
-
Elden Jacobson
xl/3300
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--- On Mon, 6/22/09, jaybannist@cs.com <jaybannist@cs.com> wrote:
From: jaybannist@cs.com <jaybannist@cs.com>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: POH -pilot operating handbook
David,
I made a POH for my airplane (601XL with a Corvair engine).- It is a comp
ilation of a lot of different POHs, but a WHOLE lot simpler than your typic
al certified airplane POH.- Not a lot of CYA stuff.- I have it on WordP
erfect formatted to print landscape on 8 1/2 x 11 paper and cut down to aro
und 5" x 7" to better fit in the airplane.- There are 23 pages in all.-
It is not totally complete. Since I have not flown off the 40-hour test pe
riod, it doesn't have all the numbers filled in.- I could make a pdf if y
ou would like to review it.
The three view drawings and weight & balance pages are separate documents t
hat I could also reproduce as pdfs.
Jay
-----Original Message-----
From: Davcoberly@wmconnect.com
Sent: Sun, Jun 21, 2009 12:05 pm
Subject: Zenith-List: POH -pilot operating handbook
After searching Archives and Internet I still don't know how to make my POH
(for 601XL with a Corvair Engine) what has to be included what format I'm
am totally at a loss on this any help or suggestions on this appreciated. D
avid Coberly
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| Subject: | Re: POH -pilot operating handbook |
Elden,
Here it is.? I've noticed that I have changed some of the checklists and not updated
the POH.? That is something you will want to customize for your airplane
anyway.? Use at your own discretion and all that stuff.? Let me know if you have
any suggestions that could improve it or if you have any questions.
Jay
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From: Elden Jacobson <eldenej@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sun, Jun 21, 2009 4:58 pm
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: POH -pilot operating handbook
Jay,
?
This is something that several of us would be delightedcto see
.
?
Elden Jacobson
xl/3300
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--- On Mon, 6/22/09, jaybannist@cs.com <jaybannist@cs.com> wrote:
From: jaybannist@cs.com <jaybannist@cs.com>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: POH -pilot operating handbook
David,
I made a POH for my airplane (601XL with a Corvair engine).? It is a compilation
of a lot of different POHs, but a WHOLE lot simpler than your typical certified
airplane POH.? Not a lot of CYA stuff.? I have it on WordPerfect formatted
to print landscape on 8 1/2 x 11 paper and cut down to around 5" x 7" to better
fit in the airplane.? There are 23 pages in all.? It is not totally complete.
Since I have not flown off the 40-hour test period, it doesn't have all the
numbers filled in.? I could make a pdf if you would like to review it.
The three view drawings and weight & balance pages are separate documents that
I could also reproduce as pdfs.
Jay
-----Original Message-----
From: Davcoberly@wmconnect.com
Sent: Sun, Jun 21, 2009 12:05 pm
Subject: Zenith-List: POH -pilot operating handbook
After searching Archives and Internet I still don't know how to make my POH (for
601XL with a Corvair Engine) what has to be included what format I'm am totally
at a loss on this any help or suggestions on this appreciated. David Coberly
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| Subject: | Re: Tron Guy's Zodiac XLi for sale |
Jay,
I am so sorry to hear about 55 Zulu Charlie! Are you going to be at the Zenith
event in Mexico, MO this Saturday--it might be a good place to find Zenith buyers.
So too, I still need a solo endorsement for the Sabrina Mark 1. I cannot find
anyone willing to sign me off since the NTSB report came out. We have the same
engine and airframe so dual stick 55 Zulu Charlie seems perfect! Can you,
as a "Flight Instructor Sport" sign off a student for an E-LSA or just an S-LSA?
I have 127.5 hours, 10.8 solo, 5.1 solo cross-country but ZERO hours in an XL winged
craft.
Sabrina
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| Subject: | Re: Tron Guy's Zodiac XLi for sale |
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 03:37:11PM -0700, Sabrina wrote:
> I am so sorry to hear about 55 Zulu Charlie! Are you going to be at the
> Zenith event in Mexico, MO this Saturday--it might be a good place to find
> Zenith buyers.
Thinking about it...KFRM-KMYJ is just about the longest leg I would plan,
but it's certainly doable.
> So too, I still need a solo endorsement for the Sabrina Mark 1. I cannot
> find anyone willing to sign me off since the NTSB report came out. We
> have the same engine and airframe so dual stick 55 Zulu Charlie seems
> perfect! Can you, as a "Flight Instructor Sport" sign off a student for
> an E-LSA or just an S-LSA?
I can sign a student off for sport pilot in anything he's eligible to fly.
The endorsements are for the poilt in a specific make and model of aircraft,
not by category or class. A solo endorsement for a Zodiac 601XL would count
for anything that can be called one. I'd issue a second endorsement for the
Sabrina Mark 1, just to make sure the bases are covered.
Looks like it's okkay: the rules about pre-solo training require that the
training be given in the make and model *or a similar make and model* of
aircraft in which the solo flight is to be flown. Assuming your airplane has
the same flight characteristics as a stock 601XL, this should be okkay.
> I have 127.5 hours, 10.8 solo, 5.1 solo cross-country but ZERO hours in an
> XL winged craft.
Well, you should know how to do the basics by now. :-)
--
Jay Maynard, K5ZC, PP-ASEL, CFI-SP http://www.conmicro.com
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| Subject: | Re: Tron Guy's Zodiac XLi for sale |
Jay,
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A reserve amount of $10,200?! Does that mean that if this, and only this, i
s met, you will sell it for that figure?
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Elden Jacobson
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From: Jay Maynard <jmaynard@conmicro.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: Tron Guy's Zodiac XLi for sale
Check out the eBay listing at
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=16034367331
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| Subject: | Re: POH -pilot operating handbook |
Thank you, Jay; this is certainly suggestive.
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Elden J.
--- On Mon, 6/22/09, jaybannist@cs.com <jaybannist@cs.com> wrote:
From: jaybannist@cs.com <jaybannist@cs.com>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: POH -pilot operating handbook
Elden,
Here it is.- I've noticed that I have changed some of the checklists and
not updated the POH.- That is something you will want to customize for yo
ur airplane anyway.- Use at your own discretion and all that stuff.- Le
t me know if you have any suggestions that could improve it or if you have
any questions.
Jay
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From: Elden Jacobson <eldenej@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sun, Jun 21, 2009 4:58 pm
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: POH -pilot operating handbook
Jay,
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This is something that several of us would be delightedcto see
.
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Elden Jacobson
xl/3300
Do not archive
--- On Mon, 6/22/09, jaybannist@cs.com <jaybannist@cs.com> wrote:
From: jaybannist@cs.com <jaybannist@cs.com>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: POH -pilot operating handbook
David,
I made a POH for my airplane (601XL with a Corvair engine).- It is a comp
ilation of a lot of different POHs, but a WHOLE lot simpler than your typic
al certified airplane POH.- Not a lot of CYA stuff.- I have it on WordP
erfect formatted to print landscape on 8 1/2 x 11 paper and cut down to aro
und 5" x 7" to better fit in the airplane.- There are 23 pages in all.-
It is not totally complete. Since I have not flown off the 40-hour test pe
riod, it doesn't have all the numbers filled in.- I could make a pdf if y
ou would like to review it.
The three view drawings and weight & balance pages are separate documents t
hat I could also reproduce as pdfs.
Jay
-----Original Message-----
From: Davcoberly@wmconnect.com
Sent: Sun, Jun 21, 2009 12:05 pm
Subject: Zenith-List: POH -pilot operating handbook
After searching Archives and Internet I still don't know how to make my POH
(for 601XL with a Corvair Engine) what has to be included what format I'm
am totally at a loss on this any help or suggestions on this appreciated. D
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| Subject: | Re: Tron Guy's Zodiac XLi for sale |
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 04:24:27PM -0700, Elden Jacobson wrote:
> A reserve amount of $10,200?! Does that mean that if this, and only this,
> is met, you will sell it for that figure?
Look again..the listing shows that the reserve has not yet been met, but not
what the reserve actually *is*. It's quite a bit higher than $10K, but less
than the $133K I paid for the airplane a year ago, much less the $147K you'd
pay AMD to get the same plane now.
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http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net
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| Subject: | Re: Advice about gas tanks in 601. |
Hello all my friends...
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I really appreciate all the answers in the list and also off list I recieve
d about the senders instalation.
I didnt answer earlyer because I was thinking a lot about all your answers.
..
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This is something great about this list... Like the good old times.
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Given my-experience building the 701 as close as possible to the plans, a
nd the great results 240 flying hours later...- and counting.
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I am going with the side senders, as the plans, but will take-the advice
from you all in account looking for a good sealed instalation.- Not forgi
ving that might need to change a sender (electric parts are never built fai
l proof) in a future.
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Thank you all once more.-
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Saludos
Gary Gower.
Flying from Chapala, Mexico.
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| Subject: | Fantastic Flying on Father's Day |
I had just about the best father's day ever today. Last week I was out of town
and my wife sent my kids off to Baton Rouge, Louisiana to spend a few weeks with
my sister and her husband and their kids. They have lots of animals and a
few dogs and when I returned from out of town, I found out they even took our
dog so it was just me and my wonderful wife at home. She asked me "Why don't
we fly somewhere?"
We talked about different places to go and settled on Baton Rouge for Father's
Day. My sister lives about 10 minutes from KBTR but I would have to fly into
a Class C airport and land. Being a new Sport Pilot, that seemed a little daunting
since it has been a while since I received my Class C endorsement.
On the way from DFW I stopped by my hangar and gassed up the airplane and washed
all the dust off of the wings and readied it for a Saturday morning adventure.
Early on Saturday we flew to Nacogdoches, Texas. We used the airport courtesy
car to get breakfast, I topped off the tanks then I prepared myself for
a class C encounter and landing.
The Baton Rouge approach guy was nice enough and I verified for the first time
that my transponder AND encoder actually works. I recently had it certified
but the technician just put a little radio on the ground, turned on my transponder
and said I was "good-to-go." I paid him $75 and he gave me a sticker for
my log book and he went on his way. Not very comforting.
After being handed off to Baton Rouge tower, I received some rapid fire instructions
- something about Runway 22R and a citation departing and something about
a right base and downwind. I was completely baffled and didn't have a clear
picture of exactly where runway 22 right was anyway, all the time getting closer
to the field. Then I saw the jet lifting off the runway in the distance and
I figured I would be landing in the same direction. I still wasn't clear on
what to do so I asked the tower to repeat the landing instructions. He seemed
a little miffed with me and emphasized DOWNWIND for 22 right. I had zoomed
my GPS all the way in and I noticed for the first time that it actually labels
the runways on the screen and there they were right on front of me. Downwind
- OK I got it. I turned left and flew along 22R, then entered a right base.
During this process my wife wiped my forehead which had a large amount of sweat
forming. Then I said with my outside voice (should have kept it inside)
"I don't do these right patterns very well." My wife told me not to say things
like that when we are landing and I realized it made her very nervous too.
She was cool as a cucumber prior to this statement.
I turned right for final and nailed the landing on the widest, longest runway I
could ever imagine and slowed way before the first taxiway - Taxiway Foxtrot.
I got handed over to ground control and asked if I could just go the the first
place with 100LL and he gave me progressive taxi instructions after figuring
out I was not very savvy in this environment.
We parked at Executive aviation next to some HUGE private jet and called it a day.
The best part was that I have not heard my sister laugh with a completely
honest-to-goodness, laugh so hard you are about to cry laugh in a long time.
After they picked us up in the lobby of the Executive Aviation lounge, they had
not seen my airplane yet. We jumped in the car and drove around to the road
where you could see the airplane parking and she was looking at all the not-so-small
airplanes in the parking lot, then saw mine and just lost it! She had
tears in her eyes saying she didn't realize my airplane was so small. In her
defense, it did look ridiculously small parked between Citations and King-airs.
We had a great afternoon with the kids and their cousins that they don't see often
enough and stayed up late visiting. This morning they gave us a ride out
to the airport and walked out on the ramp with us and watched us start up, taxi,
then take off. Conversations with ground and tower went much better but I
still asked the ground guy to stay with me to make sure I didn't make a wrong
turn. He was glad to do it and completely courteous.
Overall it was a perfect weekend as the flight back was faster with a little tail
wind. Gas in Nacogdoches again, then an hour and a half back to Grand Prairie
and we were home. My wife slept most of the last leg which is a testimony
on how smooth the airplane can be. She is a very light sleeper. I reached over
to the intercom and selected "ISO" so the radio wouldn't wake her and she
didn't move for about an hour.
Father's days don't get any better than that at least for me.
Happy building,
Scott Laughlin
601XL/Corvair
148 hours now!
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| Subject: | Re: Tron Guy's Zodiac XLi for sale |
Jay,=0A=0AWill you still instruct light sport after you sold you 601XL?=0A
=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Jay Maynard <jmaynard@
conmicro.com>=0ATo: zenith-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Sunday, June 21, 2009
6:03:26 PM=0ASubject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Tron Guy's Zodiac XLi for sale
>=0A=0AOn Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 03:37:11PM -0700, Sabrina wrote:=0A> I am so
sorry to hear about 55 Zulu Charlie!- Are you going to be at the=0A> Zen
ith event in Mexico, MO this Saturday--it might be a good place to find=0A>
Zenith buyers.=0A=0AThinking about it...KFRM-KMYJ is just about the longes
t leg I would plan,=0Abut it's certainly doable.=0A=0A> So too, I still nee
d a solo endorsement for the Sabrina Mark 1.- I cannot=0A> find anyone wi
lling to sign me off since the NTSB report came out.- We=0A> have the sam
e engine and airframe so dual stick 55 Zulu Charlie seems=0A> perfect!- C
an you, as a "Flight Instructor Sport" sign off a student for=0A> an E-LSA
or just an S-LSA?=0A=0AI can sign a student off for sport pilot in anything
he's eligible to fly.=0AThe endorsements are for the poilt in a specific m
ake and model of aircraft,=0Anot by category or class. A solo endorsement f
or a Zodiac 601XL would count=0Afor anything that can be called one. I'd is
sue a second endorsement for the=0ASabrina Mark 1, just to make sure the ba
ses are covered.=0A=0ALooks like it's okkay: the rules about pre-solo train
ing require that the=0Atraining be given in the make and model *or a simila
r make and model* of=0Aaircraft in which the solo flight is to be flown. As
suming your airplane has=0Athe same flight characteristics as a stock 601XL
, this should be okkay.=0A=0A> I have 127.5 hours, 10.8 solo, 5.1 solo cros
s-country but ZERO hours in an=0A> XL winged craft.=0A=0AWell, you should k
now how to do the basics by now. :-) =0A-- =0AJay Maynard, K5ZC, PP-ASEL, C
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| Subject: | Re: Must Sell My 75% Done 601XL |
[I recently lost ALL my retirement benefits from GM/Delphi
ALL your retirement benefits? Are u retired or working to retirement because all
blue collar workers will get there retirement ..... white collar and management
will get a reduction but no one looses there payed in retirement under federal
law.
i myself have also suffered a company gone bankrupt and thats the way it went in
federal court.......upper management and higher salaried employs got there benefits
reduced to hourly employees benefits.
Please correct me if im wrong i want to understand.
Dave
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| Subject: | Re: Tron Guy's Zodiac XLi for sale |
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 08:42:29PM -0700, John Smith wrote:
> Will you still instruct light sport after you sold you 601XL?
Well, I'll certainly be available, and hadn't planned to instruct in my
Zodiac anyway due to the insane cost of insurance, so that's not changing
any. I don't expect to instruct much, however; there's not a lot of demand
for CFIs in general around my area.
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http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net
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