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Wed 06/24/09


Total Messages Posted: 17



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     1. 05:37 AM - Re: DFW Builders get together (PatrickW)
     2. 07:41 AM - Re: Re: DFW Builders get together (Carlos Sa)
     3. 08:08 AM - Re: Re: DFW Builders get together (jaybannist@cs.com)
     4. 08:18 AM - Re: DFW Builders get together (cookwithgas)
     5. 08:42 AM - Helping some kids (Rich Simmons)
     6. 09:43 AM - Re: Helping some kids (Juan Vega)
     7. 10:22 AM - Re: Eagles Nest (as DFW Builders get together) (Carlos Sa)
     8. 01:12 PM - Rivnuts (Bill Pagan)
     9. 01:30 PM - Re: Rivnuts (SABorns@aol.com)
    10. 02:29 PM - Re: Rivnuts (Thruster87)
    11. 02:35 PM - Re: Rivnuts (Gig Giacona)
    12. 05:58 PM - Re: Re: Rivnuts (Phil Maxson)
    13. 06:09 PM - Re: Re: Rivnuts (Phil Maxson)
    14. 06:22 PM - Re: Re: Rivnuts (Bill Pagan)
    15. 06:34 PM - Re: Re: Rivnuts (jaybannist@cs.com)
    16. 09:17 PM - Re: Eagles Nest (as DFW Builders get together) (Gary Gower)
    17. 10:18 PM - Re: Rivnuts (Thruster87)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:37:39 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: DFW Builders get together
    From: "PatrickW" <pwhoyt@yahoo.com>
    How are those polished wing skins doing for you guys down there in the Texas sun? Do you catch a lot of reflections off those wings? Do they have any effect on how hot it is in the cabin? Thanks, - Pat -------- Patrick XL/650/Corvair N63PZ (reserved) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=249781#249781


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    Time: 07:41:18 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: DFW Builders get together
    From: Carlos Sa <carlossa52@gmail.com>
    Scott, to better visualize your trip, I used Google maps, and managed to locate the towers: *http://tinyurl.com/mhtctp* I believe I did not find your destination - Midway Regional was the only airport I could see: *http://tinyurl.com/km9y7b* Thanks for the report, great motivation! Carlos CH601-HD, plans centre wing in progress ____________________________________________________________________ 2009/6/23 cookwithgas <cookwithgas@hotmail.com> > > I've marked my calendar and plan to be there. I had a great flight from > Grand Prairie to Eagles Nest this afternoon. The tower guy was great as > usual. He always treats me like "this is your airport and I'm clearing > everything for you to take off - the runway is yours five-zero-lima - enjoy > the Texas skies." He calls me five-zero-lima.


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    Time: 08:08:43 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: DFW Builders get together
    From: jaybannist@cs.com
    Carlos, Eagles Nest is an airpark and looks more like a residential subdivision than an airport.? It is about 3 miles North and a little West of Mid-Way Regional airport.? The towers are still North West of Eagles Nest. Eagles Nest is 2TS6 on a sectional. The hanger that Scott is in is the second one from the South East corner.? My airplane is in the next hanger to the North. Jay Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: Carlos Sa <carlossa52@gmail.com> Sent: Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:39 am Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: DFW Builders get together Scott, to better visualize your trip, I used Google maps, and managed to locate the towers: http://tinyurl.com/mhtctp I believe I did not find your destination - Midway Regional was the only airport I could see: http://tinyurl.com/km9y7b Thanks for the report, great motivation! Carlos CH601-HD, plans centre wing in progress ____________________________________________________________________ 2009/6/23 cookwithgas <cookwithgas@hotmail.com> I've marked my calendar and plan to be there. ?I had a great flight from Grand Prairie to Eagles Nest this afternoon. ?The tower guy was great as usual. He always treats me like "this is your airport and I'm clearing everything for you to take off - the runway is yours five-zero-lima - enjoy the Texas skies." ?He calls me five-zero-lima. ________________________________________________________________________ Email message sent from CompuServe - visit us today at http://www.cs.com


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    Time: 08:18:38 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: DFW Builders get together
    From: "cookwithgas" <cookwithgas@HOTMAIL.COM>
    Carlos: It is a very small airport community just north of Midway Regional (Midlothian/Waxahachie airport). Go to your second link, then type "Eagles Nest Airport, Midlothian, TX" in the "B" location. Then zoom in on the "B" location you will see it. It looks like a subdivision street, the runway is so narrow. If you keep zooming in, you can see the phone number and airport name written in big letters on the runway. You can see the airport numbers with a "PVT" above them. Scott Laughlin 601XL/Corvair Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 8:41 am Post subject: DFW Builders get together --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Scott, to better visualize your trip, I used Google maps, and managed to locate the towers: http://tinyurl.com/mhtctp I believe I did not find your destination - Midway Regional was the only airport I could see: http://tinyurl.com/km9y7b Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=249814#249814


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    Time: 08:42:18 AM PST US
    From: Rich Simmons <4RCSIMMONS@comcast.net>
    Subject: Helping some kids
    Hey guys, I am not sure if I am breaking a rule or not. Besides building and flying I ride motorcycles as well. I am doing and iron butt run for http://www.specialkids-tn.com/ I am doing a run from Murfreesboro TN to St. Agustine FL by way of Slidell LA. IT is 1000 miles in under 24 hours. Actually, easy! I have been from Jacksonville to San Diego in under 50hours. It is called a 50cc run. 50 hours or less coast to coast. Search for the iron butt association on the web. Anyhow, if any of you would be interested in sponsoring me for 0.01 cents per mile round it to 1000miles ($10.00) go to http://www.specialkids-tn.com/ and click donation and follow the form. In the donation page comments write "For iron butt run for Rich Simmons" Let me know if you do though. I will send you some photos of the ride. The ride will take place starting this Friday the 26th at 3:00am and I will be in St Augustine Friday night. There are 8 bikes all together. Thanks for your time. Rich Simmons 601XL waiting on my engine STILL Working on IFR rating as well DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 09:43:53 AM PST US
    From: Juan Vega <amyvega2005@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Helping some kids
    Neat program, ill donate $10.00 Juan Vega, Jr. 813-784-7312 -----Original Message----- >From: Rich Simmons <4RCSIMMONS@comcast.net> >Sent: Jun 24, 2009 11:41 AM >To: zenith-list@matronics.com >Subject: Zenith-List: Helping some kids > > >Hey guys, I am not sure if I am breaking a rule or not. > >Besides building and flying I ride motorcycles as well. > >I am doing and iron butt run for http://www.specialkids-tn.com/ > >I am doing a run from Murfreesboro TN to St. Agustine FL by way of Slidell LA. > >IT is 1000 miles in under 24 hours. Actually, easy! I have been from Jacksonville to San Diego in under 50hours. It is called a 50cc run. >50 hours or less coast to coast. Search for the iron butt association on the web. > >Anyhow, if any of you would be interested in sponsoring me for 0.01 cents per mile round it to 1000miles ($10.00) >go to http://www.specialkids-tn.com/ and click donation and follow the form. In the donation page comments write "For iron butt run for Rich Simmons" > >Let me know if you do though. I will send you some photos of the ride. > >The ride will take place starting this Friday the 26th at 3:00am and I will be in St Augustine Friday night. There are 8 bikes all together. > >Thanks for your time. > >Rich Simmons >601XL waiting on my engine STILL >Working on IFR rating as well > >DO NOT ARCHIVE >


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    Time: 10:22:44 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Eagles Nest (as DFW Builders get together)
    From: Carlos Sa <carlossa52@gmail.com>
    Jay, Scott, found it. If anyone is interested, they have a web site with pictures here: http://neo.datamatrix.com/eaglesnestestates/images/rsgallery/original/en001075.jpg Nice! Carlos do not archive 2009/6/24 cookwithgas <cookwithgas@hotmail.com> > > Carlos: > > It is a very small airport community just north of Midway Regional > (Midlothian/Waxahachie airport). Go to your second link, then type "Eagles > Nest Airport, Midlothian, TX" in the "B" location. Then zoom in on the "B" > location you will see it. It looks like a subdivision street, the runway is > so narrow. If you keep zooming in, you can see the phone number and airport > name written in big letters on the runway. You can see the airport numbers > with a "PVT" above them. > > Scott Laughlin > 601XL/Corvair >


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    Time: 01:12:56 PM PST US
    From: Bill Pagan <pdn8r@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Rivnuts
    Hello all, - What are the pluses - minuses of using keyed vs. keyless rivnuts.- What i s the difference? - I'm assuming (I know thats dangerous) that the "keyed" rivnuts simply have a protruding spot that helps in avoiding the rivnut from spinning in it's h ole. Bill Pagan =0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 01:30:48 PM PST US
    From: SABorns@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Rivnuts
    Bill, You are correct, the keyed rivnuts will not (hopefully) spin. Steven Bornstein K8IDN 475 E. North Broadway Columbus, Ohio 43214 614 263-5819 **************Make your summer sizzle with fast and easy recipes for the grill. (http://food.aol.com/grilling?ncid=emlcntusfood00000005)


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    Time: 02:29:12 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Rivnuts
    From: "Thruster87" <alania@optusnet.com.au>
    If possible don't use rivnuts for a couple of reason ,can be a bit tricky to install correctly.ALL types may and do spin if the protruding end of the fastener thread is corroded and it jams onto the rivnut or you over tighten the fastener and it's easy to strip the threads as rivnuts are usually made for Al and when they do it's a a pain to take them out as they spin around as you drill and it usually leaves a lager hole then the original rivnut. [Work with these little suckers on vintage aircraft] Don't see any evidence of stress fatigue arising out of notching the holes for the keyed type but keep in mind you do need the proper size tools especially for the notching. Cheers Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=249882#249882


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    Time: 02:35:50 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Rivnuts
    From: "Gig Giacona" <wrgiacona@gmail.com>
    I was going to use Rivnuts and got some to play with and see how they worked. I have nut plates and no rivnuts in my plane. -------- W.R. &quot;Gig&quot; Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=249883#249883


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    Time: 05:58:35 PM PST US
    From: "Phil Maxson " <pmaxpmax@HOTMAIL.COM>
    Subject: Re: Rivnuts
    After having rivnuts (not keyed) on several spots on my plane I wouldn't use them again. I even used located on them. I'm convinced that there are rivnuts that have spun and those that will. Phil Maxson 601XL/Corvair ------Original Message------ From: Gig Giacona Sent: Jun 24, 2009 5:34 PM Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Rivnuts I was going to use Rivnuts and got some to play with and see how they worked. I have nut plates and no rivnuts in my plane. -------- W.R. &quot;Gig&quot; Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR <http://www.peoamerica.net/N601WR> Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=249883#249883 <http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=249883#249883>


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    Time: 06:09:15 PM PST US
    From: "Phil Maxson " <pmaxpmax@HOTMAIL.COM>
    Subject: Re: Rivnuts
    >> I even used located on them. << Whoops! I meant LOCKTITE on them. Dang blackberry spill chicker. Phil Maxson 601XL/Corvair


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    Time: 06:22:44 PM PST US
    From: Bill Pagan <pdn8r@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Rivnuts
    Thanks guys, just the info I was looking for.- Looks like nutplates for m e! Bill Pagan --- On Wed, 6/24/09, Phil Maxson <pmaxpmax@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote: From: Phil Maxson <pmaxpmax@HOTMAIL.COM> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Rivnuts After having rivnuts (not keyed) on several spots on my plane I wouldn't us e them again. I even used located on them. I'm convinced that there are riv nuts that have spun and those that will. Phil Maxson 601XL/Corvair ------Original Message------ From: Gig Giacona Sent: Jun 24, 2009 5:34 PM Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Rivnuts I was going to use Rivnuts and got some to play with and see how they worke d. I have nut plates and no rivnuts in my plane. -------- W.R. &quot;Gig&quot; Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR <http://www.peoamerica.net/N60 1WR> Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=249883#249883 <http://forums. matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=249883#249883> le, List Admin. =0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 06:34:50 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Rivnuts
    From: jaybannist@cs.com
    Bill, You should also be careful about what kind of nutplates you get.? I got some of the floating nutplate types in which the nuts are prone to spin.? That's no better than rivnuts.? If you get the floating type (which I don't recommend) make sure the nut cages are super stout. I have replaced all the spinning ones with the rigid type nutplates. Jay Bannister -----Original Message----- From: Bill Pagan <pdn8r@yahoo.com> Sent: Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:21 pm Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Rivnuts Thanks guys, just the info I was looking for.? Looks like nutplates for me! Bill Pagan --- On Wed, 6/24/09, Phil Maxson <pmaxpmax@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote: From: Phil Maxson <pmaxpmax@HOTMAIL.COM> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Rivnuts After having rivnuts (not keyed) on several spots on my plane I wouldn't use them again. I even used located on them. I'm convinced that there are rivnuts that have spun and those that will. Phil Maxson 601XL/Corvair ------Original Message------ From: Gig Giacona Sent: Jun 24, 2009 5:34 PM Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Rivnuts I was going to use Rivnuts and got some to play with and see how they worked. I have nut plates and no rivnuts in my plane. -------- W.R. &quot;Gig&quot; Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR <http://www.peoamerica.net/N601WR> Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=249883#249883 <http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=249883#249883> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Z ? ? ? ? ? ???- MATRONICS WEB FORUM; ? ? ? ? ? ? ="http://www.matronics.com/contribution" target=_blankhttp://www.matro==================== ________________________________________________________________________ Email message sent from CompuServe - visit us today at http://www.cs.com


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    Time: 09:17:55 PM PST US
    From: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Eagles Nest (as DFW Builders get together)
    Great airport, with 3 landing strips...-- :-)- :-) - In-my (dreamed) route-to Oshkosh...- only 30 hrs one way from here in -my 701... - Saludos Gary Gower Do not archive. 20=B018'33.86"N- 103=B0 9'36.99"O --- On Wed, 6/24/09, Carlos Sa <carlossa52@gmail.com> wrote: From: Carlos Sa <carlossa52@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Eagles Nest (as DFW Builders get together) Jay, Scott, found it. If anyone is interested, they have a web site with pictures here: http://neo.datamatrix.com/eaglesnestestates/images/rsgallery/original/en001 075.jpg Nice! Carlos do not archive 2009/6/24 cookwithgas <cookwithgas@hotmail.com> Carlos: It is a very small airport community just north of Midway Regional (Midloth ian/Waxahachie airport). -Go to -your second link, then type "Eagles Ne st Airport, Midlothian, TX" in the "B" location. -Then zoom in on the "B" location you will see it. -It looks like a subdivision street, the runwa y is so narrow. -If you keep zooming in, you can see the phone number and airport name written in big letters on the runway. -You can see the airp ort numbers with a "PVT" above them. Scott Laughlin 601XL/Corvair =0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 10:18:17 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Rivnuts
    From: "Thruster87" <alania@optusnet.com.au>
    jaybannist(at)cs.com wrote: > Bill, > > You should also be careful about what kind of nutplates you get. I got some of the floating nutplate types in which the nuts are prone to spin. That's no better than rivnuts. If you get the floating type (which I don't recommend) make sure the nut cages are super stout. I have replaced all the spinning ones with the rigid type nutplates. > > Jay Bannister > > > > > > -- I've put hundreds in and I've properly come across a hand full with damaged floating nuts and the main cause is cross threading /over tightening or plain old age.We spray/soak the fasteners with Ardrox or Boeshield type long term corrosion inhibitors.Keeping in mind these anchor nuts are from reputable aircraft suppliers.Cheers Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=249920#249920




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