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1. 10:39 AM - What did you do today? (Edward Moody II)
2. 10:51 AM - Re: Heavy wing stuff II (Edward Moody II)
3. 12:10 PM - What did you do today? (Bill Naumuk)
4. 02:23 PM - Re: Gascolator Wierdness - fuel turning yellow... (geo)
5. 03:51 PM - Re: Re: Gascolator Wierdness - fuel turning yellow... (Bryan Martin)
6. 06:40 PM - Emailing: 100_2937 (wade jones)
7. 06:54 PM - Re: What did you do today? (Sabrina)
8. 07:14 PM - Re: Emailing: 100_2937 (jaybannist@cs.com)
9. 07:23 PM - Re: Re: Gascolator Wierdness - fuel turning yellow... (purplemoon99@bellsouth.net)
10. 07:23 PM - Flight Report with Video (cookwithgas)
11. 07:27 PM - Re: Re: What did you do today? (Paul Mulwitz)
12. 07:35 PM - Re: Re: What did you do today? (Jay Maynard)
13. 08:24 PM - Re: What did you do today? (Sabrina)
14. 08:36 PM - Re: Re: What did you do today? (Jay Maynard)
15. 08:47 PM - Re: What did you do today? (Sabrina)
16. 08:48 PM - What did you do today? (Jeff)
17. 09:10 PM - Re: What did you do today? (john H)
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| Subject: | What did you do today? |
I need to start out with the following caveat; I can't compete with
Scott Laughlin's flight reports. In fact the only way I can compete with
him is that I'm older and better looking. Now that I have that out of
the way, here is my latest death defying feat.
At 6:40 AM I took off in "Papa Goose" (4568G) leaving a very quiet
3R2 (Legros) behind and below. Surface temp was nearly 80F already and I
did my best not to waste too much time on the ground. As soon as I had
adequate CHTs and oil temp for full power, I did my run up and mag check
then headed down runway 31 behind the massively powerful Jabiru 3300A.
Being alone (still under 40 hours in Phase 1) the plane climbed easily
at 2900 rpm , 97 mph IAS, and 550 fpm. As soon as I was satisfied that
the engine was reasonably happy, I headed SE for Vermillion Bay on the
Gulf of Mexico due south of Lafayette, LA. All the way there I was
steadily climbing through gaps in the scattered cloud layers... not sure
why but there where little cloud banks at different altitudes all the
way up to 4,000' MSL with tops around 5K. With lots of huge gaps in the
clouds I had no problem maintaining VFR minimums and visual contact with
the ground. The high pressure dome that has been parked over us for
several weeks has begun to drift west and over the last few dyas there
have been a very few T-storms in the afternoons to stir up the air a
bit. Despite it being very hazy, I was thrilled find that the OAT was
dropping nicely as I climbed so I kept on climbing. By the time I
reached Vermillion Bay I had reached 6,000' MSL and the Goose was still
climbing nicely. Wonder of wonders, the combination of OAT in the upper
60s and the engine getting more broken in was producing oil temps around
210 F. That was a nice surprise since on the last two flights I was
seeing 215 - 238 F at 2,000 - 3,500' MSL in high power cruise (2900
RPM). Today there were no such worries to mar the bliss of being
airborne doing what I have wanted to do during three years of building.
Soapbox time: Keep on building... address whatever issues you feel
need to be addressed but don't get disillusioned or discouraged.
Disappointment is inevitable... disillusionment is optional. You will
finally get to do what you set out to do as long as you don't let the
bumps in the road break you. End of sermon; death defying tale resumes
now.
Having seen the Gulf albeit through the haze, I decided to turn west
and fly along the intracoastal waterway. It's so funny that now I have
an airplane that is faster than the bass boats in the canal. There have
been a lot of times in the past when my Excalibur ultralight could not
overcome a headwind and overtake a fast boat. Now I have to work on
sightseeing quickly as I breeze on by. It is taking some adjustments on
my part.
I kept on climbing just to evaluate the performance on the plane and
to see how cool the OAT would get to be. By the time I was directly over
my home airport once more, I had reached 10,100' MSL and the OAT was a
pleasant 52 F. The CHTs and EGTs were all happily in the green and the
oil temp was very nice 204 F. At that point I needed to descend because
I was expecting Bob Beach in his CH701 to arrive for a visit at 3R2, so
I gradually throttled back, pulled on the carb heat and eased the nose
over to re-trim for descent at 110 mph IAS. Back down through the holes
in the still widely scattered clouds I went giving thanks all the way.
Up at 8,000 - 10,000' MSL I had no EGT problems when I had tried
throttling back into the midrange of the carb. In fact up at 10K full
throttle made the engine rumble a bit as though the mixture was too rich
for the altitude... probably was. That was a nice surprise because I was
planning on changing the midrange jet to the next larger size soon since
I had been seeing high EGTs between 2,600 - 2850 rpm at low altitude.
Now I'm going to need some advice and rethink that move, but that's for
another day and another time.
As I crossed the approach end of 31 and began to flare in ground
effect, there were three of the pesky Mottled Ducks that have an
absolute fixation with sitting on our runways at Legros. They seem to
have decided that sitting in the grass is for other ducks... they prefer
the concrete. I added power to allow me to balloon up and drift left
then realigned and cut power to resume the landing. It was smooth and
none of the embarrassing nose wheel planting that was a problem for me
on the first 2 - 3 flights. I taxied up to a friend's hangar as he was
preparing to pull out his Grumman Tiger for a quick hop over to Jennings
(about ten miles west of Legros) for the Saturday morning breakfast
version of the hundred dollar hamburger. He and another friend looked
over the Goose and grinned at all my petty concerns about this temp and
that pressure and so on. On of the guys told me to "throw all those
gauges out the window" to which I replied in my best Brooklyn accent,
"Yeah? Well I got your window right here!". It was all harmless of
course and guess what? There was not so much as a hint of ZBAGing.
I was about to board the Grumman for the short breakfast hop when
Bob's 701 appeared so I jumped back down to wait for him to land. We
decide not to go for the breakfast on the grounds that our two obviously
superior Zenith aircraft might cause widespread depression among the
mortal pilots in Jennings. We opted instead for a photo session aloft.
Bob had his buddy, Lloyd along as a safety pilot and his camera was at
the ready so back upstairs we went. Heading north out of Legros we
climbed back through the holes in the clouds and formed up at 4,500'. As
I carefully and intently slid the Goose into low echelon left Bob
snapped away and motioned me ahead to get some different views and
angles. I can't wait to see what he got. It's reminiscent of Christmas
when I was a kid. Who am I kidding? I'm the oldest juvenile on the block
and I don't really want to grow up anyway. My inner child likes
airplanes... what can I say?
Once Bob got enough shots from different angles we said our goodbyes
and parted company. Each of us headed back to our own roosts before the
heat of the day made flying too bumpy. I had 2.39 hours to log and
besides, neither of us like to abuse our toys. That sort of thing can
make a bad reputation for the designer ;-)
Ed
N4568G 601XL
Papa Goose
15.26 hours
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| Subject: | Re: Heavy wing stuff II |
I have my takeoff trim position marked mentally, sort of, you know,
kinda over there in the upper left quadrant... somewhere. It's all very
precise.
Ed
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| Subject: | What did you do today? |
All-
I got my scratchbuilt forward hinged canopy side rails back from the
weld shop. Including the price to ship the materials, I saved about 25%
off the Zenith price less shipping.
Seriously, guys, this is not a job for someone without a TIG or who
isn't REALLY good at wielding a gas hatchet. I did the welds I
considered myself capable of on my Lincoln stick welder and farmed out
the rest. The guy who did my TIG work OKd my stick weld work; I made
sure there was enough material left for a second try if he gave me a
thumbs down.
The main advantage was that there is a discrepancy in the overall
length dimension (The XL dimensions are a bit long for an HD/HDS), and I
was able to tailor my rails to fit the upper longerons and forward hoop.
Even if you buy an off the shelf XL unit, HD/HDS people will probably
have to modify it. I'm not talking a lot- maybe 1/2". Larry Mac reported
60mm in his log, which is right in the ballpark.
Back out to the shop- over and out.
Bill Naumuk
Townville, Pa.
HDS N601MG/Corvair 95%
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| Subject: | Re: Gascolator Wierdness - fuel turning yellow... |
Hello John, Yesterday the exact same problem happened to me with our club plane,
1976 PA 151. Fuel drained from the gascolator looked like a yellow urine sample.
It eventually turned to blue. A local mechanic guessed it was car gas but
that's not it. This has happened 2 times since an annual where a fuel line was
changed.
I'm convinced it is something dissolving in the bowl. Another mechanic suggested
looking in the bowl for an answer.
We saved a sample and may have an ave gas supplier analyze it if its not too much
$. Keep me posted. Good Luck, George
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| Subject: | Re: Gascolator Wierdness - fuel turning yellow... |
The dyes used in avgas are designed to lose their color when two
different grades of avgas are mixed together. In this case, it may
just be that the blue dye in the avgas is reacting to some residue
left on the new fuel lines from the manufacturing process. As the
residue is flushed out of the system over time, the issue should go
away.
On Jun 27, 2009, at 5:22 PM, geo wrote:
>
> Hello John, Yesterday the exact same problem happened to me with our
> club plane, 1976 PA 151. Fuel drained from the gascolator looked
> like a yellow urine sample. It eventually turned to blue. A local
> mechanic guessed it was car gas but that's not it. This has happened
> 2 times since an annual where a fuel line was changed.
> I'm convinced it is something dissolving in the bowl. Another
> mechanic suggested looking in the bowl for an answer.
> We saved a sample and may have an ave gas supplier analyze it if its
> not too much $. Keep me posted. Good Luck, George
>
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Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL,
RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
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| Subject: | Emailing: 100_2937 |
Hello group ,I did not fly as long as Ed today but I had as much fun I
bet .I also flew out over the Gulf of Mexico ,I only live 12 miles from
the gulf .It is way too hot in South texas to fly unless you are going
someplace and can get high .Sorry it's not Zenith related but at 75
years of age I need to brag some and yall know how Texans like to brag .
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| Subject: | Re: What did you do today? |
Hey there guys... just back from Mexico, MO... just had my first ride in an XL
winged craft... the rudder was stiffer than I expected, slow flight performance
was not as good as the C150L but it broke nose down as it should, so that
is good...
I had the Zenith plans marked up with my 300+ modifications with me and it was
a hit with the builders and Caleb...
I am most impressed that Zenith did NOT require a waiver of liability from me for
the flight. It demonstrates a great deal of confidence.
Tron Guy never showed so I am still looking for an XL experienced CFI so I can
solo the Sabrina Mark 1 which has been held in Phase 1 for that purpose. I would
like to be the one signing it out of Phase 1.
After further review and discussions, the Sabrina Mark 1 will NOT be fitted with
the LAA aileron mass balance. I have stiffened the center spar and uprights
per my own design. The German speed limit has been lifted and page 1 (6-X-1
08/05) V speeds will be programmed into the Dynon ASAP.
This is what Phase 1 is all about guys--come on Paul, quit calling Caleb, get your
wings back on, get it inspected and let's get St. Pauli Girl in the air on
July 14th!
35 on the ACT, so I am happy with that. :O)
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| Subject: | Re: Emailing: 100_2937 |
Hey Wade,
Texans don't need to apologize for bragging, especially when its the simple truth.
(Only when it is "pushing" the truth a little, maybe).
Its hot here in Dallas, too.? I saw 103 today and I think this is 6 or 7 days straight
over 100. I try to get outside stuff done before noon.? It is supposed
to cool off, clear down to 97 for a few days.??
How's the XL/Franklin coming?
Jay Bannister
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From: wade jones <wjones@brazoriainet.com>
Sent: Sat, Jun 27, 2009 8:26 pm
Subject: Zenith-List: Emailing: 100_2937
Hello group ,I did not?fly as long as Ed today
but I had as much fun I bet .I also flew? out over the Gulf of Mexico ,I
only live 12 miles from the gulf .It is way too hot in South texas to fly unless
you are going someplace and can get high .Sorry it's not Zenith related but at
75 years of age I need to brag some and yall know how Texans like to brag
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| Subject: | Re: Gascolator Wierdness - fuel turning yellow... |
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| Subject: | Flight Report with Video |
What a day! Today I flew my 601XL/Corvair to three airports. My wife rode along
with with me and she was a real trooper with the heat. We flew by the new
Cowboy stadium and Texas Motor Speedway and lots of DFW area lakes.
The first stop was a short hop over to Midlothian (Midway) for fuel and it was
super quick. Up and down. I made possibly the best landing I have ever made
on this leg of the trip. There was guy there practicing banner grabbing with
a Citabria and that was pretty cool to watch while I was filling up.
The second leg was all the way from the southern portion of DFW Mode C to North
of DFW to a little private airport called Hidden Valley. The landing at Hidden
Valley was a blast with trees everywhere. The trees really wizzed by on landing.
The runway also slopes down hill the whole way.
After a visit with a friend there at Hidden Valley, the temperature had reached
One-Zero-Zero.
On the return I didn't even feel the heat because I was having so much fun. My
wife was getting uncomfortable I could tell but she really was great and had
fun sight seeing. I talked to Arlington Tower and Alliance Tower on the way there
and back and those guys are first class. For a new pilot like me with barely
a year of experience, they treated me great. The kept me out of trouble
with traffic and guided me under and around Class Bravo airspace at DFW. We were
watching large passenger jets fly over us - very cool and a little bit scary
but I knew those guys were watching me with my new Mode C transponder and encoder.
The landing at Eagles Nest was a no brainer again and I did my usual left side
landing. My wife tried to point me over to the left much as you do a bowling
ball after you release it, but I reacted the same as a released bowling ball.
My wife made a bee-line for the hangar after we landed to find some cool air.
It was a great day. I captured some of it on a video from my cockpit mount and
you can see it here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHaWGi1rf0c
Have a good day (I sure did)
Scott Laughlin in Texas
601XL/Corvair
149 hours and climbing
PS: Concerning the aileron trim - I never touched it the whole time we where flying.
I'll take note the next time I fly alone.
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| Subject: | Re: What did you do today? |
Hi Sabrina,
Congratulations on your test and first XL flight. I'm surprised
about your slow flight comment. I thought the XL did a great job of
keeping the controls crisp all the way down to stall. I don't think
a 150 can do that.
I haven't talked to Caleb in a couple of years. I wonder who has
been calling and using my name . . .
I don't think I will be flying the XL this year. I had flight
insurance on it, but I changed it to ground not-in-motion. Besides
getting it inspected I would still need to change the insurance back too.
Why did you decide not to do aileron balancing on your plane? I am
going to have to worry about you . . .
Is July 14 the time you are going to be in Washington? Where are you visiting?
Paul
XL grounded
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At 06:53 PM 6/27/2009, you wrote:
>
>Hey there guys... just back from Mexico, MO... just had my first
>ride in an XL winged craft... the rudder was stiffer than I
>expected, slow flight performance was not as good as the C150L but
>it broke nose down as it should, so that is good...
>
>I had the Zenith plans marked up with my 300+ modifications with me
>and it was a hit with the builders and Caleb...
>
>I am most impressed that Zenith did NOT require a waiver of
>liability from me for the flight. It demonstrates a great deal of
>confidence.
>
>Tron Guy never showed so I am still looking for an XL experienced
>CFI so I can solo the Sabrina Mark 1 which has been held in Phase 1
>for that purpose. I would like to be the one signing it out of Phase 1.
>
>After further review and discussions, the Sabrina Mark 1 will NOT be
>fitted with the LAA aileron mass balance. I have stiffened the
>center spar and uprights per my own design. The German speed limit
>has been lifted and page 1 (6-X-1 08/05) V speeds will be programmed
>into the Dynon ASAP.
>
>This is what Phase 1 is all about guys--come on Paul, quit calling
>Caleb, get your wings back on, get it inspected and let's get St.
>Pauli Girl in the air on July 14th!
>
>35 on the ACT, so I am happy with that. :O)
>
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| Subject: | Re: What did you do today? |
On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 06:53:41PM -0700, Sabrina wrote:
> Tron Guy never showed so I am still looking for an XL experienced CFI so I
> can solo the Sabrina Mark 1 which has been held in Phase 1 for that
> purpose. I would like to be the one signing it out of Phase 1.
Apologies...but I had a job come up that's good for a few thousand bucks,
with a deadline of next Tuesday...so I'm hard at work at home.
--
Jay Maynard, K5ZC, PP-ASEL, CFI-SP http://www.conmicro.com
http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net
Fairmont, MN (KFRM) (Yes, that's me!)
AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC http://www.tronguy.net/N55ZC.shtml
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| Subject: | Re: What did you do today? |
No problem... I can't match those numbers...
This is a great day, I just got my SAT scores back... 2340 !
99th percentile on all three sections!
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| Subject: | Re: What did you do today? |
On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 08:23:27PM -0700, Sabrina wrote:
> No problem... I can't match those numbers...
The flip side of that is that, assuming I can get the annual done, KARR is
no farther from KFRM than KMYJ is...and I could be induced to come to you
one fine day.
> This is a great day, I just got my SAT scores back... 2340 !
> 99th percentile on all three sections!
Nice. I hd to do a doubletake, though, as I'm not used to thinking of SATs
as having three 800-point sections...
--
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http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net
Fairmont, MN (KFRM) (Yes, that's me!)
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| Subject: | Re: What did you do today? |
:O)
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| Subject: | What did you do today? |
After nearly 15 years of education and recreation, N601T is now an actual
airplane! I received my Airworthiness Certificate on Friday. I was lucky
enough to have a FSDO here in the Northern Virginia area willing to do the
Inspection. So your taxes paid for my inspection! Thank you!
Some details:
CH601-HD with various XL upgrades including the front hinged canopy and
firewall supports.
Jabiru 3300A with solid lifters and the JabiruUSA firewall forward package.
Leading edge tanks only fuel system.
Top front fuselage skin is removable with nut plates and screws.
Dual throttles and Y center stick.
Dynon EMS and EFIS (flip-flopable).
Garmin 327 XPDR and SL40 COM radios.
Garmin 496 GPSMAP installed in the panel.
PS Engineering 4000 intercom.
Oregon Aero seats covered locally with embroidered ZAC logo w/permission.
Sans paint so far.
I started to list all the people from the list that helped along the way
from George Pinneno and the two Mikes to Fred Hulen and Jeff Small, but the
list was way too many names. My technical counselors have been: Chuck
Shedd, Rob Brooks, Ralph Hoover, and Dick Koehler (yes, that Richard
Koehler). Dick is my Flight Advisor too. Various others from the
Warrenton airport (HWY) in Midland Virginia have been directly involved too.
I received flight instruction from Jason Long in a 601XL and from Younis
Forsyth in a 650.
Thanks to all ..
Jeff Davidson
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| Subject: | What did you do today? |
Congrats Jeff. Waiting to hear how it flies. If you get the chance=2C come
on down to JFZ. The airshow is the 2nd Saturday in August.
John Hartlen
601 HD 342 hours
From: jeffrey_davidson@earthlink.net
Subject: Zenith-List: What did you do today?
After nearly 15 years of education and recreation=2C N601T is
now an actual airplane! I received my Airworthiness Certificate on
Friday. I was lucky enough to have a FSDO here in the Northern
Virginia area willing to do the Inspection. So your taxes
paid for my inspection! Thank you!
Some details:
CH601-HD with various XL upgrades including the front hinged
canopy and firewall supports.
Jabiru 3300A with solid lifters and the JabiruUSA firewall
forward package.
Leading edge tanks only fuel system.
Top front fuselage skin is removable with nut plates and
screws.
Dual throttles and Y center stick.
Dynon EMS and EFIS (flip-flopable).
Garmin 327 XPDR and SL40 COM radios.
Garmin 496 GPSMAP installed in the panel.
PS Engineering 4000 intercom.
Oregon Aero seats covered locally with embroidered ZAC logo
w/permission.
Sans paint so far.
I started to list all the people from the list that helped
along the way from George Pinneno and the two Mikes to Fred Hulen and Jeff
Small=2C but the list was way too many names. My technical counselors have
been: Chuck Shedd=2C Rob Brooks=2C Ralph Hoover=2C and Dick Koehler (yes
=2C that Richard
Koehler). Dick is my Flight Advisor too. Various others from
the Warrenton airport (HWY) in Midland
Virginia have been directly
involved too. I received flight instruction from Jason Long in a 601XL
and from Younis Forsyth in a 650.
Thanks to all =85.
Jeff Davidson
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