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1. 05:25 AM - Re: Re: What did you do today? (Jim Belcher)
2. 05:42 AM - Re: Oshkosh dinner (Jim Belcher)
3. 08:22 AM - Re: Oshkosh dinner (dougsire)
4. 08:39 AM - Re: Re: Oshkosh dinner (Paul Mulwitz)
5. 11:25 AM - Canopy Flashing (Bill Pagan)
6. 11:35 AM - Re: Oshkosh dinner (Sabrina)
7. 11:39 AM - Re: Canopy Flashing (Gig Giacona)
8. 11:40 AM - Re: Canopy Flashing (Sabrina)
9. 12:39 PM - Re: Re: Canopy Flashing (Roger Pritchard)
10. 01:13 PM - Re: Canopy Flashing (Craig Payne)
11. 01:13 PM - Re: Re: Canopy Flashing (Juan Vega)
12. 01:22 PM - Re: Canopy Flashing (jaybannist@cs.com)
13. 01:51 PM - Re: Re: Oshkosh dinner (ZodieRocket)
14. 03:11 PM - Re: Oshkosh dinner (Sabrina)
15. 04:04 PM - Re: Re: What did you do today? (Bob Fulmer)
16. 05:22 PM - Re: Re: Canopy Flashing (Roger Pritchard)
17. 05:37 PM - Help Locate? (Joe)
18. 06:50 PM - Re: Canopy Flashing (Ashley)
19. 07:09 PM - Re: Re: Oshkosh dinner (ZodieRocket)
20. 07:09 PM - Re: Canopy Flashing (purplemoon99@bellsouth.net)
21. 07:55 PM - Re: Oshkosh dinner (Sabrina)
22. 08:11 PM - Re: Canopy Flashing (dingfelder)
23. 08:43 PM - Re: Re: Oshkosh dinner (Paul Mulwitz)
24. 11:07 PM - Official Zenith-List FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) (Matt Dralle)
25. 11:15 PM - Official Zenith-List Usage Guidelines (Matt Dralle)
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| Subject: | Re: What did you do today? |
On Tuesday 30 June 2009 22:18, Sabrina wrote:
>
> The off line vote is overwhelmingly AGAINST posting any drawings since it
> would just tend to flame the list.
<snip>
This list? Flame? I can't imagine such a thing. :-)
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| Subject: | Re: Oshkosh dinner |
On Tuesday 30 June 2009 12:48, Jon Croke wrote:
> Actually, go to www.zenith.aero and look at the leftmost column at the
> bottom for EVENTS.
>
> You can click to sign up, and see who else is attending. (you can change
> your mind and un-attend, if need to)
>
> This method makes it much easier for the planners to get a head count
> accurate and early.. and see your friends that are planning to make it!
Ahh, well. One of the few disadvantages I can think of to living in nice,
remote, far west Texas is that it's so doggone far to Oshkosh. With no
airplane flying, and a three day up, three day back trip by pickup, I don't
see us making it.
You guys have fun, and have a brat for us!
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| Subject: | Re: Oshkosh dinner |
I understand that due to the recent rancor on the lists that all weapons will need
to be checked at the door.
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Doug Sire 601XL
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| Subject: | Re: Oshkosh dinner |
Does that mean all attendees need to eat while wearing a gag?
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At 08:19 AM 7/1/2009, you wrote:
>I understand that due to the recent rancor on the lists that all
>weapons will need to be checked at the door.
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Yeas and Nahs on the front canopy flashing.- I've seem with and without.
- What are the advantages and/or disadvantages?- Any of you flying guys
with an opinion would be useful.
Bill Pagan
Workin on the canopy
601XL QBK/Corvair/N565BW (RES)
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| Subject: | Re: Oshkosh dinner |
The Mexico, MO event last Saturday was perfectly civil. Just about every crash
was discussed, and no voices were raised. Sebastian, Caleb and Roger answered
every question put to them.
We were a bunch of builders trying to help each other.
I did get the third degree from Sebastian's wife--about my grades and standardized
test scores. :O)
The fact that I was allowed to fly in the factory demo for nearly an hour with
Roger without the requirement of a waiver of liability speaks volumes. He performed
every maneuver I requested. I compared that flight with my test pilot
reports of my aircraft.
I don't know what more they could have done.
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy Flashing |
pdn8r(at)yahoo.com wrote:
> Yeas and Nahs on the front canopy flashing. I've seem with and without. What
are the advantages and/or disadvantages? Any of you flying guys with an opinion
would be useful.
>
I went without it. It seemed like a lot of work and increased the opportunities
to crack the plastic. I can see nothing gained from it even from a "looks" point
of view.
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W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy Flashing |
Nay...
I use a portable prop tach optical device to verify the Dynon every now and then,
that little gap works perfectly... just set it on the dash and it picks up
the RPMs without fail...
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy Flashing |
It gives the canopy a finished look.
-
Roger in Nashua
--- On Wed, 7/1/09, Gig Giacona <wrgiacona@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Gig Giacona <wrgiacona@gmail.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Canopy Flashing
pdn8r(at)yahoo.com wrote:
> Yeas and Nahs on the front canopy flashing.- I've seem with and without
.- What are the advantages and/or disadvantages?- Any of you flying guy
s with an opinion would be useful.
>
I went without it. It seemed like a lot of work and increased the opportuni
ties to crack the plastic. I can see nothing gained from it even from a "lo
oks" point of view.
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W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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I didn't put it on or need it. I think in the past the canopies didn't come
from the factory as accurately trimmed. The metal flashing allowed you to
cover any uneven edge on the plastic. Mine was a pre-Todd's canopy.
-- Craig
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Pagan
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:22 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Canopy Flashing
Yeas and Nahs on the front canopy flashing. I've seem with and without.
What are the advantages and/or disadvantages? Any of you flying guys with
an opinion would be useful.
Bill Pagan
Workin on the canopy
601XL QBK/Corvair/N565BW (RES)
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy Flashing |
Roger,
its all about taste. i did not put one up front, but in the back of the canopy.
check zenith.aero site for pic of my plane for guidance. its all in the eye
of the builder.
Juan
-----Original Message-----
>From: Roger Pritchard <rogers_pritchard@yahoo.com>
>Sent: Jul 1, 2009 3:29 PM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Canopy Flashing
>
>It gives the canopy a finished look.
>
>Roger in Nashua
>
>--- On Wed, 7/1/09, Gig Giacona <wrgiacona@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>From: Gig Giacona <wrgiacona@gmail.com>
>Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Canopy Flashing
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2009, 2:37 PM
>
>
>
>
>pdn8r(at)yahoo.com wrote:
>> Yeas and Nahs on the front canopy flashing. I've seem with and without. What
are the advantages and/or disadvantages? Any of you flying guys with an opinion
would be useful.
>>
>
>
>I went without it. It seemed like a lot of work and increased the opportunities
to crack the plastic. I can see nothing gained from it even from a "looks" point
of view.
>
>--------
>W.R. "Gig" Giacona
>601XL Under Construction
>See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=250982#250982
>
>
>le, List Admin.
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy Flashing |
Bill,? I left it off.? I just didn't see that it added anything but a bit of complication.
Jay Bannister
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-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Pagan <pdn8r@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wed, Jul 1, 2009 1:22 pm
Subject: Zenith-List: Canopy Flashing
Yeas and Nahs on the front canopy flashing.? I've seem with and without.? What
are the advantages and/or disadvantages?? Any of you flying guys with an opinion
would be useful.
Bill Pagan
Workin on the canopy
601XL QBK/Corvair/N565BW (RES)
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| Subject: | Re: Oshkosh dinner |
Hello All, this answer is directed at a few but brings home a point for
all.
I spend a fair bit of time in preparation of both the Sun-N-Fun BBQ of
which
is my personal event. I also host and prepare the Oshkosh Builders
dinner
which is an Official Zenith event. The Zenith builder's dinner is a
relaxed
evening for Builders, Owners, their spouses and children.
About 8 years ago it was a dinner with a 5 minute speech from Chris
Heintz
and then a gathering.
Over the years I have expanded it to include an evening of entertainment
and
a little information from the company. Last year we addressed a few
concerns
during the dinner and provided a format of information that was
otherwise
unavailable at the time( some spouses did not enjoy the information
session). This year we will not be having that discussion. For all those
who
wish to hold a discussion over publicized events I welcome you to please
attend this Forum.
7/30/2009 - 10:00 AM - 11:15 AM - 009 Honda Generator Pavilion
Zenith and Zenair Update- Zodiac CH650 - New design and kit features of
the
new Zodiac CH650 light sport aircraft.
Presented by: Sebastien Heintz
The builders dinner is a place of bonding, a gathering of spirit and an
evening of enjoyment, it is a place in which we honor those
accomplishments
that are achieved before us. It is not a place of heated discussion or
political agenda, that can be expressed elsewhere. I invite all of you
who
have questions which need to be answered to attend the forum listed
above
and ask any questions you may wish.
IT is not my intent to stave off any questions or concerns that any of
you
may have, in fact we welcome all enquiries that are reasonable and
informative. IT is my desire to ensure that all guests of the builder's
dinner have the most enjoyment possible and that my hard work results in
smiling faces and an evening that is memorable as an event worth
repeating
in future years to come.
Mark Townsend
Can-Zac Aviation Ltd.
519-590-7601 www.canzac.ca
Canadian Dealer for Zenith Aircraft Kits, Zenair Designs.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul
Mulwitz
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:36 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Oshkosh dinner
Does that mean all attendees need to eat while wearing a gag?
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At 08:19 AM 7/1/2009, you wrote:
>I understand that due to the recent rancor on the lists that all
>weapons will need to be checked at the door.
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| Subject: | Re: Oshkosh dinner |
Mark, with all due respect, I am coming to the dinner, plans in hand and willing
to talk to anyone about anything in a civilized manner.
I was specifically told in Mexico that you do not speak for the entire Heintz family
and that I am welcome this year. In fact, there were preliminary discussions
in Mexico that I may hold off my first U.S. solo until Air Venture and solo
in an XL winged craft at Air Venture if my FAA mentors agree.
Your note reminds me of comments that were made last year that made me feel unwelcome
after I started comparing the 650 and 601 on line during the first part
of Air Venture 2008.
Feel free to put me off in a corner table, but I invite anyone who wants to sit
with me to join me and talk freely... we will keep our voices down...
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| Subject: | Re: What did you do today? |
Hi Sabrina....this decision comes as no great surprise.
Having said that....let me also say.....I Understand, respect, and accept
your decision. It was always - your call - as I saw it - then and now.
My own motivations were to see your methods and points of application....it
would be interesting for me and perhaps others to see and review them - I
believe.
Never saw them as anything other than your view - don't know if I'd consider
any of them for my own build or not.....
Thanks for thinking about it...Hope you have a 1st class time at Airventure
and truly enjoy yourself.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sabrina" <chicago2paris@msn.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 11:18 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: What did you do today?
>
> The off line vote is overwhelmingly AGAINST posting any drawings since it
> would just tend to flame the list.
>
> So too, for those of you who do visit Air Venture 2009, please realize
> that the plans I am bringing are the original marked up work in progress
> Zenith plans, not those submitted during the AW inspection. These plans
> were marked up while I was 12, 13 and 14 years old, so review them as a
> piece of aviation history and nothing more.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=250901#250901
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy Flashing |
Jaun,
-
I like it a lot.
Roger
--- On Wed, 7/1/09, Juan Vega <amyvega2005@earthlink.net> wrote:
From: Juan Vega <amyvega2005@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Canopy Flashing
Roger,
its all about taste.- i did not put one up front, but in the back of the
canopy.- check zenith.aero site for pic of my plane for guidance. its all
in the eye of the builder.
Juan
-----Original Message-----
>From: Roger Pritchard <rogers_pritchard@yahoo.com>
>Sent: Jul 1, 2009 3:29 PM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Canopy Flashing
>
>It gives the canopy a finished look.
>-
>Roger in Nashua
>
>--- On Wed, 7/1/09, Gig Giacona <wrgiacona@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>From: Gig Giacona <wrgiacona@gmail.com>
>Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Canopy Flashing
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2009, 2:37 PM
>
>
>
>
>pdn8r(at)yahoo.com wrote:
>> Yeas and Nahs on the front canopy flashing.- I've seem with and withou
t.- What are the advantages and/or disadvantages?- Any of you flying gu
ys with an opinion would be useful.
>>
>
>
>I went without it. It seemed like a lot of work and increased the opportun
ities to crack the plastic. I can see nothing gained from it even from a "l
ooks" point of view.
>
>--------
>W.R. "Gig" Giacona
>601XL Under Construction
>See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=250982#250982
>
>
>le, List Admin.
>
>
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Guys,
Last year there was a young man selling new Corvair engine parts in the back
of the Zenith tent at Oshkosh. It wasn't Wayne, it was someone else not
affiliated with Wayne's conmpany. I lost his name and phone number. Does
anyone know who that was?
Joe in Oshkosh
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy Flashing |
Bill,
I have it because of the gap between my canopy and fuselage.
It reduces visability to the horizon greatly. If you have a good fit of
the canopy to fuselage, I would recommed against the flashing.
Floyd Wilkes
601XL O-200
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Pagan
To: Zenith List
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:22 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Canopy Flashing
Yeas and Nahs on the front canopy flashing. I've seem with and
without. What are the advantages and/or disadvantages? Any of you
flying guys with an opinion would be useful.
Bill Pagan
Workin on the canopy
601XL QBK/Corvair/N565BW (RES)
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| Subject: | Re: Oshkosh dinner |
As you should Sabrina, I have nothing but respect for you since the dinner I
introduced you at a couple of years ago. Technical discussion and problem
solving has always been a part of the builders dinner and will always remain
as such. I am trying to avoid having anyone use the builders dinner as a
personal arena to accomplish an agenda. A show such as that would only deter
from an enjoyable evening with people who share the same interest.
Discussion of topics is desirable among all builders and the forum that will
be attended only a few hours prior to the dinner is a far better venue to
air out concerns and receive Technical information on tests that have been
performed. Specific questions and technical information is far better served
during a Forum then during a Social Gathering.
Sabrina, I am sorry you took my previous letter as a personal one, honestly
you never entered my mind as I wrote it. I was remembering a gent at
Sun-N-Fun that carried his agenda a bit too far at a Forum and though he is
more then welcome to ask any questions at the next forum I ask that such a
performance not be repeated during the builders dinner.
I understand that emotions can get carried away, and a heated discussion
can erupt. I wish for nothing but good memories be taken away with everyone
from the Builders Dinner.
Sabrina I am glad to hear that you are coming to the dinner, I look forward
to seeing you again.
Mark Townsend
Can-Zac Aviation Ltd.
519-590-7601 www.canzac.ca
Canadian Dealer for Zenith Aircraft Kits, Zenair Designs.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sabrina
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 6:09 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Oshkosh dinner
Mark, with all due respect, I am coming to the dinner, plans in hand and
willing to talk to anyone about anything in a civilized manner.
I was specifically told in Mexico that you do not speak for the entire
Heintz family and that I am welcome this year. In fact, there were
preliminary discussions in Mexico that I may hold off my first U.S. solo
until Air Venture and solo in an XL winged craft at Air Venture if my FAA
mentors agree.
Your note reminds me of comments that were made last year that made me feel
unwelcome after I started comparing the 650 and 601 on line during the first
part of Air Venture 2008.
Feel free to put me off in a corner table, but I invite anyone who wants to
sit with me to join me and talk freely... we will keep our voices down...
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=251018#251018
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy Flashing |
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| Subject: | Re: Oshkosh dinner |
it was the blame it on the "spouses" phrase that should had not made it past your
final edit... Your dinner two years ago was amazing, and I am told the Sun
n Fun one is always a great hit... Congrats on such a great string of successful
events!
watch out guys, some of your spouses read these posts--a couple have written to
me to... neither complained to Mr. Townsend nor know anyone who did!
Who is coming and who is willing to sit at my table? Paul?
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy Flashing |
Bill,
I built my 601 XL with flashing front and rear. The reason I
did so was because I'm taller than the average dude, and raised the
entire canopy one inch for additional head room, which made the flashing
mandatory. I sit high enough inside the canpoy that the flashing doesn't
enter my sightline at all. I also moved my rudder pedals ahead 2 1/4".
I'm chasing that 40th hour of the testing phase, and this plane flies
great.
Lynn Dingfelder 601 XL /
Corvair Corry, PA
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| Subject: | Re: Oshkosh dinner |
If I was, I would be delighted to enjoy dinner and conversation with you.
Paul
XL grounded
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At 07:52 PM 7/1/2009, you wrote:
>Who is coming and who is willing to sit at my table? Paul?
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| Subject: | Official Zenith-List FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) |
Dear Listers,
Please read over the Zenith-List Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) below. The
complete Zenith-List FAQ including the Usage Guidelines can be found at the
following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/Zenith-List.FAQ.html
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
[ Note: This FAQ was designed to be displayed with a fixed width font such as
Courier. Proportional fonts will cause display formatting errors. ]
This FAQ can also be viewed in HTML online at the following address:
http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Zenith-List.htm
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******* LIST POLICIES AND FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS *******
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PLEASE READ. This document contains Zenith-List policies and information
for new and old subscribers. Understanding the Zenith-List policies will
minimize problems for the Administrator, and will help keep the Zenith-List
running smoothly for all of us.
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*** Quick Start Guide to List Features ***
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There are many features available on the Matronics Email Lists and each
one is described in detailed below. However, using the List Navigator
you can quickly access the complete set of features available for this
List. The List Navigator can be found at the following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List
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*** How to Subscribe and Unsubscribe ***
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Simply go to the Web Page shown below and enter your email address and
select the List(s) that you wish to subscribe or unsubscribed from. You
may also use the handy "Find" function to determine the exact syntax of
your email address as it is subscribed to the List. Please see the
complete instructions at the top of the Web Page for more information.
The Subscribe/Unsubscribe web page is:
http://www.matronics.com/subscribe
Note that you will receive TWO conformation emails regarding your subsciption
process. The first verifies that your subscription/unsubsciption request
was received, and the second confirms that the process has been completed.
You should receive the first email within a few minutes of your request.
The second conformation will arrive in less than 24 hours. You cannot post
until you receive the second conformation email message.
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*** How to Post a Message ***
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Send an email message to:
zenith-list@matronics.com
Your message will be redistributed to everyone currently subscribed
to the List.
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*** SPAM Fighter - You Must be Subscribed to Post ***
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When a new post is received by the system, the From: line of the message
is checked and compared against the current subscription list. If the
email address is found, the message is passed on to the List Processor.
If the email address isn't found in the current list of subscribers, it
is dumped. This serves to very effectively thwart 99% of the SPAM that
gets posted to the Lists.
Remember, however, that the syntax of your email address is very important
with regard to the configuration of your email application such as Outlook
or Eudora. For example, the following two email addresses may be
functionally equivalent, but only one would pass the Matronics Email SPAM
test depending on which was syntax was subscribed to the given List:
smith@machine.domain.com
smith@domain.com
Either email address syntax is alright, just be sure that you configure
your email application to match *exactly* the address you've subscibed to
the List.
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*** Enclosure Support on the Lists ***
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Limited posting of enclosures such as pictures, documents, and spreadsheets
is supported on the Lists. There are a number of restrictions, and these
are detailed below. Please abide by the rules put forth regarding the
content of enclosures.
These are some of the features and limits of enclosures on the Matronics
Lists:
1) Enclosures will only be posted to the Real Time version of the Lists.
2) Enclosures will NOT be included in the Daily Digest version of the Lists.
3) Enclosures WILL BE forwarded on to the BBS Forum Web site.
4) Enclosures will NOT be appended to the Archives.
5) Enclosures will NOT be available in the List Browse feature.
6) Only the following file types and extensions will be allowed:
bmp doc dwg dxf gif jpg pdf png txt xls
All other enclosures types will be rejected and email returned to
sender. The enclosure types listed above are relatively safe from
a virus standpoint and don't pose a particularly large security risk.
7) !! All incoming enclosures will be scanned for viruses prior to posting
to the List. This is done in real time and will not slow down
the process of posting the message !!
Here are some rules for posting enclosures. Failure to abide by these rules
could result in the removal of a subscriber's email address from the Lists.
1) Pay attention to what you are posting!! Make sure that the files
you are enclosing aren't HUGE (greater that 1MB). Remember that there
are still people checking they're email via dial up modem. If you post
30MB worth of pictures, you are placing an unnecessary burden on these
folks and the rest of us, for that matter.
2) SCALE YOUR PICTURES DOWN!!! I don't want to see huge 3000 x 2000
pictures getting posted that are 3 or 4MB each. This is just
unacceptable. Use a program such as Photoshop to scale the picture
down to something on the order of 800 x 600 and try to keep the
file size to less-than 200KB, preferably much less.
Microsoft has a really awesome utility available for free that allows
you to Right-Click on a picture in Explorer and automatically
scale it down and resave it. This is a great utility - get it, use it!
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx
Look for the link "Image Resizer"
3) !! This would seem to go without saying, but I'll say it anyway. Do not
post anything that would be considered offensive by your grandmother.
And you know what I'm saying; I don't want to see anything even
questionable. !!
4) REMEMBER THIS: If you post a 1MB enclosure to a List with 1000 members
subscribed, your 1MB enclosure must be resent 1000 times amounting
to 1MB X 1000 = 1 Gigabyte of network traffic!! BE CAREFUL and
BE COURTEOUS!
Also see the section below on the Matronics Photo and File Share where
you can have your files and photos posted on the Matronics web server
for long time viewing and availability.
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*** Digest Mode ***
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Each day, starting at 12 midnight PST US, a new 'digest' will be started.
This digest will contain the same information that is currently appended
to the archive file. It has all of the headers except for the "From:"
and "Subject:" lines removed, and includes a message separator consisting
of a line of underscores.
Each day at 23:55 PST US, the day's messages as described above will be
combined and sent as a single message to everyone on the digest email list.
To subscribe to the digest list, use the same subscription web form
described above, and just select the Digest version of the List.
http://www.matronics.com/subscribe
Note that you *can* be subscribed to both the realtime and digest versions
of the List at the same time. This is perfectly acceptable.
Now some caveats:
* Messages sent to "zenith-list-digest" will be forwarded to the standard
email list. In other words, you cannot post messages only to the
digest List.
* If you are subscribed to both the regular List and the digest List, you
will receive the realtime postings as well as the digest at the end of
the day.
* If you reply to the digest email, your message will be forwarded to the
normal list associated with the digest. Important Note: Please change
the subject line to reflect the topic of your response! Also, please
*do not include all or most of the digest in your reply*.
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*** List Digest Browser ***
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An archive of all the List Digests can be found online in either plain text
or HTML format. These archives contain the exact Digest that was posted to
the Digest email list on the given day. The Digest Archives can be found
at the following location:
http://www.matronics.com/digest
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*** The "DO NOT ARCHIVE" Message Flag ***
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At times, your message may concern something that is revelent only to a very
small number of persons or to a limited area, and you may not wish to archive
it. In such a case, simply put the following phrase anywhere in the
message:
do not archive
Your message will not be appended to the archive, but will be sent to List
email distribution as normal.
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***** READ THIS - Automatic Unsubscribes *****
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Note that if your email address begins to cause problems such as bounced
email, mailbox is filled, or any other errors, your address will be promptly
removed from the List. If you discover that you are no longer receiving
messages from the Zenith-List, go to the following Web page, and look
for your email address and a possible reason for your removal.
The Matronics Email List uses utility called the "Email Weasel" that
automatically looks though the day's bounced email for addresses that
caused problems due to common things like "user is unknown", "mailbox
full", etc. If the Email Weasel removes your email address from the
Lists you will find record of it at the following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/unsubscribed
If the problem listed on the web site above has been resolved, please feel
free to resubscribe to the Lists of your choice.
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*** List Member Information ***
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If you have not done so already, please email me your phone numbers and
paper mail address in the following format:
smith@somehost.com
Joe Smith
123 Airport Lane
Tower, CA 91234-1234
098-765-1234 w
123-456-7890 h
Please forward this information to the following email address:
requests@matronics.com
I have a file of such things, that I typically use to contact you when
there are problems with your email address. The information will NOT
be used for any other commercial purpose.
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*** Realtime Web Email List Browsing ***
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Recent messages posted to the Zenith-List are also made available on
the Web for realtime browsing. Seven days worth of back postings are
available with this feature. The messages can be sorted by Subject,
Author, Date, or Message Thread. The Realtime List Browser indexes are
updated twice per hour at xx:15 and xx:45. You can also reply to a message
or start a new message directly from the List Browser Interface (coming soon).
You do not have to be subscribed to the given list to use the List
Browser Interface in view-mode.
http://www.matronics.com/browselist/zenith-list
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*** Web Forums Bulletin Board Interface ***
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A phpBB BBS web Forums front end is available for all Zenith-List content.
content. The Forums contain all of the same content available via the email
distribution and found on the various archive viewing formats such as the
List Browse, etc. Any posts on the web Forums will be cross posted to the
respective email List, and posts to the Email List will be cross posted to
the web Forums.
You may view all List content on the Forums without any special login.
If you wish to post a message via the Web Forum interface, however, you
will need to Register. This is a simple process that takes only a few
minutes. A link to the Registration page can be found at the top of the
main web Forums page. Note that registering on the Forum web site also
enables you to send email posts to the Lists as well. You will also need to
Subscribe to the respective Email List as described above to receive the
Email Distribution of the List, however.
The Matroincs Email List Web BBS Forums can be found at the following URL:
http://forums.matronics.com
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*** Matronics Email List Wiki ***
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In an attempt to make it easy to store and find structured and often accessed
information, Matronics has installed a Wiki at:
http://wiki.matronics.com
The Wiki allows individuals to create web pages to contain useful information
for other users of the mailing lists and web site. Unlike an ordinary web page
where the content needs to be submitted to Matronics for inclusion, the Wiki
permits the users to construct their own pages and have them visible immediately.
While constructing pages for the Wiki is not difficult, some may not be
comfortable building pages. In that case, simply prepare the text and any
images and email it to:
wiki-support@matronics.com
One of the volunteers on that list will take your submission and construct
a Wiki page for you.
Often someone produces a particularly useful posting in email one one of the
Lists that would be of general interest. In that case Matronics may take that
post and convert it into a Wiki page.
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*** List Archives ***
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A file containing of all of the previous postings to the Zenith-List is
available on line. The archive file information is available via the
Web and FTP in a number of forms. Each are briefly described below:
* Zenith-List.FAQ
- Latest version of the Zenith-List Frequently Asked Question
page (this document).
* Zenith-Archive.digest.complete
- Complete file with most of the email header info removed and
page breaks inserted between messages.
* Zenith-Archive.digest.vol-??
- Same as the file above, but broken up into small sections that
can more easily handled.
* Zenith-Archive.digest.complete.zip
- Same as the Zenith-Archive.digest.complete file above, but
in PKZIP format. Use "binary" data transfer methods.
* Zenith-Archive.digest.complete.Z
- Same as the Zenith-Archive.digest.complete file above, but in
UNIX compress format. Use "binary" data transfer methods.
Download Via FTP
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The archive file is available via anonymous FTP from ftp.matronics.com
in the "/pub/Archives" directory. It is updated daily and can be found in
a number of formats as described above. (All filenames are case sensitive.)
ftp://ftp.matronics.com/pub/Archives
Download Via Web
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The archives are also available via a web listing. These can be found
toward the bottom of the following web page:
http://www.matronics.com/archives
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*** Complete List Web Archive Browsing ***
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All messages posted to the Zenith-List are also available using the
Email List Archive Browsing feature. With this utility, all messages
in the List are indexed, and individual sub-archives can be browsed.
http://www.matronics.com/archive/archive-index.cgi?Zenith
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**** High-Speed Archive Search Engine ***
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You can use the custom, high-performance Matronics Email List Search Engine
to quickly locate and browse any messages that have been posted to the
List. The Engine allows the user to easily search any of the currently
available List archives.
http://www.matronics.com/search
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*** File and Photo Share ***
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With the Matronics Email List File and Photo Share you can share pictures
and other data with members of the List without having to forward a
copy of it to everyone. To share your Files and Photos, simply email
them to:
pictures@matronics.com
!! ==> Please including the following information with each submission:
1) Email Lists that they are related to.
2) Your Full Name.
3) Your Email Address.
4) One line Subject description.
5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic.
6-x) One-line Description of each photo or file
Prior to public availability of the files and photos, each will be scanned
for viruses. Please also note that the process of making the files and
photos available on the web site is a pseudo-manual process, and I try to
process them every few days.
Following the availability of the new Photoshare, an email message will be
sent to the Email Lists enumerated in 1) above indicating that the new
Share is available and what the direct URL to it is.
For a current list of available Photoshares, have a look at the Main
Index Page:
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
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*** List Archive CDROM ***
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A complete Matronics Email List Archive CD is available that contains
all of the archives since the beginning of each of the Lists. The archives
for all of the Lists are included on the CD along with a freeware search
engine written by a list member. The CD is burned the day you order it
and will contain archive received up to the last minute. They make
great gifts!
http://www.matronics.com/ArchiveCDROM
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*** List Support Contributions ***
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The Matronics Lists are run *completely* through the support of it members.
You won't find any PopUpAds, flashing Banner ads, or any other form of
annoying commercialism on either the Email Messages or the List web pages
associated with the Matronics Email Lists. Every year during November
I run a low-key, low-pressure "Fund Raiser" where, throughout the month,
I ask List members to make a Contribution in any amount with which they
are comfortable.
I will often offer free gifts with certain contribution levels during the
Fund Raiser to increase the participation. The gifts are usually donated
by companies that are themselves List members.
Your Contributions go directly to supporting the operation of the Lists
including the high-speed, business-class Internet connection, server
system hardware and software upgrades, and to partially offset the many
many hours I spend running, maintaining, upgrading, and developing the
variety of services found here.
Generally Contributions range from $20 to $100 and are completely voluntary
and non-compulsory. I ask only that if person enjoys the Lists and obtains
value from them, that they make a Contribution of equal magnitude.
Contributions are accepted throughout the year, and if you've just
subscribed, feel free to make a Contribution when you've settled in.
The website for making SSL Secure Contributions is listed below. There are
a variety of payment methods including Visa and MasterCard, PayPal, and
sending a personal check.
If you enjoy and value the List, won't you make a Contribution today to
support its continued operation?
http://www.matronics.com/contributions
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
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Zenith-List Usage Guidelines
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The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the Zenith-List.
You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein.
Failure to use the Zenith-List in the manner described below may result
in the removal of the subscribers from the List.
Zenith-List Policy Statement
The purpose of the Zenith-List is to provide a forum of discussion for
things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals
are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver
high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie
among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals
requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of
the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established:
- Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not submit
posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long
lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc.
- THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your post will be
relevant to everyone. If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it.
- Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive
that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try to be concise and
terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and
responses.
- Keep your signature brief. Please include your name, email address,
aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location. A short line
about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid
bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary
space in the archive.
- DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is
easily obtainable from other widely available sources. Consult the
web page or FAQ first.
- If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of
your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it
easy to find threads in the archive.
- When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your
response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the
reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that
quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive
can not be overstated!
- When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT
then go ahead and reply to the List. Be aware that clicking the
"reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your
response to the original poster. You might have to actively address
your response with the original poster's email address.
- DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something
to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!", "I
agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent
to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at large.
- When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you need to
comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly
contribute something valuable.
- Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone
polite and respectful. Don't make snide comments, personally attack
other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously
controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless debate that
will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing.
- Occasional posts by vendors or individuals who are regularly
subscribed to a given List are considered acceptable. Posts by
List members promoting their respective products or items for sale
should be of a friendly, informal nature, and should not resemble
a typical SPAM message. The List isn't about commercialism, but
is about sharing information and knowledge. This applies to
everyone, including those who provide products to the entire
community. Informal presentation and moderation should be the
operatives with respect to advertising on the Lists.
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| Subject: | Official Zenith-List Usage Guidelines |
Dear Listers,
Please read over the Zenith-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete
Zenith-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the
following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/Zenith-List.FAQ.html
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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Zenith-List Usage Guidelines
******************************************************************************
The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the Zenith-List.
You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein.
Failure to use the Zenith-List in the manner described below may result
in the removal of the subscribers from the List.
Zenith-List Policy Statement
The purpose of the Zenith-List is to provide a forum of discussion for
things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals
are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver
high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie
among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals
requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of
the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established:
- Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not submit
posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long
lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc.
- THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your post will be
relevant to everyone. If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it.
- Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive
that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try to be concise and
terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and
responses.
- Keep your signature brief. Please include your name, email address,
aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location. A short line
about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid
bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary
space in the archive.
- DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is
easily obtainable from other widely available sources. Consult the
web page or FAQ first.
- If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of
your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it
easy to find threads in the archive.
- When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your
response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the
reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that
quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive
can not be overstated!
- When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT
then go ahead and reply to the List. Be aware that clicking the
"reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your
response to the original poster. You might have to actively address
your response with the original poster's email address.
- DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something
to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!", "I
agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent
to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at large.
- When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you need to
comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly
contribute something valuable.
- Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone
polite and respectful. Don't make snide comments, personally attack
other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously
controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless debate that
will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing.
- Occasional posts by vendors or individuals who are regularly
subscribed to a given List are considered acceptable. Posts by
List members promoting their respective products or items for sale
should be of a friendly, informal nature, and should not resemble
a typical SPAM message. The List isn't about commercialism, but
is about sharing information and knowledge. This applies to
everyone, including those who provide products to the entire
community. Informal presentation and moderation should be the
operatives with respect to advertising on the Lists.
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