---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 07/13/09: 17 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:35 AM - Re: Re: New small form-factor color instrument from MGL (Gary Gower) 2. 05:25 AM - new member... (Jeff Walin) 3. 05:53 AM - Chat Reminder (George Race) 4. 06:18 AM - Re: Best GPS today (Gig Giacona) 5. 06:19 AM - Re: Most recent letter from Chris (Gig Giacona) 6. 06:20 AM - Re: First flight of N12GT (Phil Maxson) 7. 06:22 AM - Re: First flight of N12GT (John Davis) 8. 07:04 AM - Re: First flight of N12GT (Larry Winger) 9. 07:04 AM - Thanks for the ideas! (Jim Belcher) 10. 07:52 AM - gps experience (601corvair) 11. 10:09 AM - Re: tight fit tool (additional test + video) () 12. 10:23 AM - Re: First flight of N12GT (Rick Lindstrom) 13. 11:56 AM - Blue Mountain has closed its doors (Craig Payne) 14. 12:11 PM - Re: tight fit tool (additional test + video) (Bill Naumuk) 15. 03:23 PM - Re: Best GPS today (Tommy Walker) 16. 04:00 PM - Re: First flight of N12GT (Ron Lendon) 17. 04:07 PM - Re: Best GPS today (Ron Lendon) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:35:14 AM PST US From: Gary Gower Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: New small form-factor color instrument from MGL The way all the electronic devices are improving over the months (instead o f over the years) I have thought that waiting to buy the instruments untill ready to install them,- is a wise thing. - Saludos Gary Gower. --- On Sun, 7/12/09, PatrickW wrote: From: PatrickW Subject: Zenith-List: Re: New small form-factor color instrument from MGL Interesting.... Thanks for sharing - I was close to pulling the trigger on one of the new D ynon D6's.- I think I'll hold off for a bit now until I find out more about this one. - Nice to have another choice. - Pat -------- Patrick XL/650/Corvair N63PZ (reserved) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=252688#252688 le, List Admin. =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:25:47 AM PST US From: Jeff Walin Subject: Zenith-List: new member... Is there anyone on the list with a CH 640 project? I am seriously considering it.... Jeff ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:53:21 AM PST US From: "George Race" Subject: Zenith-List: Chat Reminder Live Chat Room every Monday evening around 8:00 EDT www.mykitairplane.com Click on the Chat Room link on the page. Check out my new "Zenith Logo" Data Plate, really cool! George Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:18:14 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Best GPS today From: "Gig Giacona" As a fellow resident of the South One of the first things I suggest is a GPS with XM weather. T'Storms pop up and if you are going to be doing any significant amount of X/C in the Southern summer you will have one pop up in front of you at some time. There are several GPS's with XM 3/4/696 are of course the best known. -------- W.R. "Gig" Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=252766#252766 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:19:01 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Most recent letter from Chris From: "Gig Giacona" You do know if you are installing a Dynon it has an AOA function that pretty much does the same thing as a LRI? paulrod36(at)msn.com wrote: > Not to take a stand on the issue, but, before I hang the wings, I'm planning to strip out the cables, and put in pushrods. Not because I must, but BECAUSE I CAN. They're neat, they don't require tensioning, and RV'ers love them. Same reasoning for the BRS,the LRI, and the Dynon goodies. Come to think of it, same reason why I fly at all. Because I can. > > Paul R. > (expecting my crank back from Nitron this week) > -------- W.R. "Gig" Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=252767#252767 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:20:41 AM PST US From: "Phil Maxson " Subject: Re: Zenith-List: First flight of N12GT Congratulations Gary! What a wonderful feeling, huh? Now you can add "test pilot" to your other titles: builder, owner, repairman, air boss, ... ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:22:55 AM PST US From: John Davis Subject: Re: Zenith-List: First flight of N12GT Hi Gary, Congrats on your first flight!! Good luck on your phase 1 flying.... John Davis N601JD - Jab 3300 15 Hrs and counting.... Gary Thomas wrote: > Hi all, > > Yesterday saw the first flight of N124GT, a 601XL with corvair power > built according to the standard William Wynne configuration. It went > once around the pattern without incident. I watched from the ground, > but will be eager to play my part next weekend. It could not have > been done without tremendous help from the people at Zenith, William > Wynne and friends, members of EAA chapter 133 down here in Fort > Lauderdale, countless visitors to the hangar, and the people here on > this forum (where I am an avid lurker). > > Emotions run high here sometimes, and there are occasionally people > with a talent for getting others inflamed, but let's remember and > celebrate what we all have in common, for it is considerable. Keep > working towards your dreams. > > Gary > > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:04:45 AM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith-List: First flight of N12GT From: Larry Winger Way to go, Gary. I hope to be following you in the not-to-distant future. Take good notes and plenty of pictures! Larry Winger On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 7:19 PM, Gary Thomas wrote: > Hi all, > Yesterday saw the first flight of N124GT, a 601XL with corvair power built > according to the standard William Wynne configuration. It went once around > the pattern without incident. I watched from the ground, but will be eager > to play my part next weekend. It could not have been done without > tremendous help from the people at Zenith, William Wynne and friends, > members of EAA chapter 133 down here in Fort Lauderdale, countless visitors > to the hangar, and the people here on this forum (where I am an avid > lurker). > > Emotions run high here sometimes, and there are occasionally people with a > talent for getting others inflamed, but let's remember and celebrate what we > all have in common, for it is considerable. Keep working towards your > dreams. > > Gary > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:04:45 AM PST US From: Jim Belcher Subject: Zenith-List: Thanks for the ideas! Sometimes the comments on this list have a more far-reaching application than one might imagine. I've been arguing with myself on when I needed to buy avionics, since I suspect it may be easier to install before zipping things up. I'm planning on making the upper surface of the panel removable, so access is more a matter of convenience than impossibility. Based on that, and the comments about how rapidly avionics change (which I knew, but I guess it needed reinforcing), I'm pretty much convinced to hold off until everything else is done. I'm talking about the GPS, the radio, and the transponder. I have an altimeter, ASI, and similar steam gauge instruments on hand, so they can be installed much earlier. ============================================= You can check on my aircraft construction progress at: http://www.mykitlog.com/santaigo ================================================ Jim B. Belcher BS, MS Physics, math, Computer Science A&P/IA Instrument Rated Pilot General Radio Telephone Certificate Retired Aerospace Technical Manager ================================================ ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:52:05 AM PST US From: 601corvair Subject: Zenith-List: gps experience GPS experience I=99ve been contemplating the GPS issue myself.=C2- Both for cost a nd safety. For=C2- Hobby VFR pilots ( like myself) one of the safety recommendations is the GPS be removable so you can take it home and =9Cfly=9D the trip in your arm chair first.=C2- Less stress, more time to think, to plan, program, and re-plan.=C2- This is especially true if the plane is a rental. Years ago I acquired a used Magellan 315, it had an upgradable aviation dat a base.=C2- When Magellan stopped supporting this unit a guy on the net f igured out how to port the FAA aviation software and would provide free dow n loadable upgrades once a quarter.=C2- Magellan told the guy it was OK w ith them.=C2- It was a lot of work and about a year ago he stopped doing it. I=99ve got the last addition on CD.=C2- Then another fellow, a KR2 pilot, figured out how to port the gps signal to his laptop and I could use the laptop to display a sectional chart with the gps tract.=C2- It w as pretty slick and cheap. Last Father=99s Day I received a Garmin nuvi 205 for the car.=C2- I t has road maps etc.=C2- Cost about 100 dollars at Sam=99s club.=C2 - It can be connected to the laptop by USB2 connects.=C2- It has a nice bright moving map. Touch screen control and lots of other really nice feat ures.=C2- A bet a similar one with an aviation data base would cost ten t imes that much.=C2- I am looking into the possibility of finding a way to port aviation maps to the unit.=C2- I=99ll let folks know how it t urns out.=C2- Phill Hartig =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 10:09:31 AM PST US From: Subject: Re: Zenith-List: tight fit tool (additional test + video) Not quite that much. It almost looks like a slightly bent drill bit. How good is the hole it produces? Paul R. ----- Original Message ----- From: Carlos Sa To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 5:44 PM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: tight fit tool (additional test + video) Thanks all for the replies. Paul, does your shake as bad as this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_R6gwzkulI Carlos 2009/7/12 > Hi Carlos. I also got one of their drills, and it also wobbled. Had some misgivings, but in actual practice, it drilled good holes. I'd say, try it out and see how it produces. Three years or so later, I'm still using it. Paul R. http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 10:23:29 AM PST US From: Rick Lindstrom Subject: Re: Zenith-List: First flight of N12GT Congrats, Gary! Now begins the tweaking and fine tuning, all done with a grin that just won't quit... Rick Lindstrom N42KP -----Original Message----- >From: Gary Thomas >Sent: Jul 12, 2009 10:19 PM >To: zenith-list@matronics.com >Subject: Zenith-List: First flight of N12GT > >Hi all, >Yesterday saw the first flight of N124GT, a 601XL with corvair power built according to the standard William Wynne configuration. It went once around the pattern without incident. I watched from the ground, but will be eager to play my part next weekend. It could not have been done without tremendous help from the people at Zenith, William Wynne and friends, members of EAA chapter 133 down here in Fort Lauderdale, countless visitors to the hangar, and the people here on this forum (where I am an avid lurker). >Emotions run high here sometimes, and there are occasionally people with a talent for getting others inflamed, but let's remember and celebrate what we all have in common, for it is considerable. Keep working towards your dreams. >Gary ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 11:56:04 AM PST US From: "Craig Payne" Subject: Zenith-List: Blue Mountain has closed its doors I just heard about this on another list: "Well, it's been fun. We developed a whole new class of machine, started an industry, dominated it, and are now leaving it. BMA will be ceasing production and spinning down. The best way to contact us is via email: support@bluemountainavionics.com. Please don't call, since the office is not staffed on a scheduled basis. We'll still be around to service, support and assist as time permits, homebuilders helping other homebuilders, but BMA is essentially closed. This website is paid up and will be around for a few years at least, and there is some hope (and a fond desire) that we may return to full production when the economy recovers. Database updates are still be available on this site, and service, maintenance and repairs are still available for all BMA products. We are actively seeking someone to buy the code and continue development. If your interested, please email." www.bluemountainavionics.com -- Craig ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 12:11:20 PM PST US From: "Bill Naumuk" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: tight fit tool (additional test + video) Carlos- Roll the damn drill bit on a flat surface and find out if it wobbles. It doesn't look like it will. If it doesn't, you've got a collet problem. Bill do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: paulrod36@msn.com To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 1:06 PM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: tight fit tool (additional test + video) Not quite that much. It almost looks like a slightly bent drill bit. How good is the hole it produces? Paul R. ----- Original Message ----- From: Carlos Sa To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 5:44 PM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: tight fit tool (additional test + video) Thanks all for the replies. Paul, does your shake as bad as this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_R6gwzkulI Carlos 2009/7/12 Hi Carlos. I also got one of their drills, and it also wobbled. Had some misgivings, but in actual practice, it drilled good holes. I'd say, try it out and see how it produces. Three years or so later, I'm still using it. Paul R. href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 03:23:14 PM PST US From: "Tommy Walker" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Best GPS today Thanks for all the replies. Lots of interesting stuff out there. Tommy Walker in Alabama N8701T Reserved Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 04:00:36 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: First flight of N12GT From: "Ron Lendon" Congratulations, fly safe. -------- Ron Lendon, Clinton Township, MI WW Corvair with Roy's Garage 5th bearing Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder ;-) http://www.mykitlog.com/rlendon Corvair Engine Prints: http://home.comcast.net/~rlendon/site/ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=252866#252866 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 04:07:00 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Best GPS today From: "Ron Lendon" Tommy, I have the Lowrance 2000C and have flown it about 100 hours. It is easy to use, easy to see, and easy to update online. I am a gadget/geek so keep that in mind about my comments about easy. -------- Ron Lendon, Clinton Township, MI WW Corvair with Roy's Garage 5th bearing Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder ;-) http://www.mykitlog.com/rlendon Corvair Engine Prints: http://home.comcast.net/~rlendon/site/ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=252867#252867 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message zenith-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Zenith-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/zenith-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/zenith-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.