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1. 06:58 AM - EAA videos (Carlos Sa)
2. 11:49 AM - Canopy Seal (Bill Pagan)
3. 11:54 AM - Re: EAA videos (Terry Phillips)
4. 12:22 PM - Re: EAA videos (Carlos Sa)
5. 12:23 PM - Re: Canopy Seal (Davcoberly@wmconnect.com)
6. 12:31 PM - Re: What I did today (Tommy Walker)
7. 01:05 PM - Re: Re: What I did today (wade jones)
8. 01:32 PM - Re: What I did today (Tommy Walker)
9. 01:45 PM - Re: EAA videos (Jim Belcher)
10. 02:54 PM - Re: Canopy Seal (Gig Giacona)
11. 03:24 PM - Re: [Probable Spam] Canopy Seal (LarryMcFarland)
12. 03:50 PM - Re: EAA videos (Jim Belcher)
13. 04:43 PM - Re: What I did today (leinad)
14. 04:49 PM - Re: Re: What I did today (Peter W Johnson)
15. 04:58 PM - Re: What I did today (lwinger)
16. 05:00 PM - Re: What I did today (leinad)
17. 05:03 PM - LRI probe placement (leinad)
18. 05:07 PM - Oshkosh - ride to dinner on thurs (John Davis)
19. 05:17 PM - Re: EAA videos (leinad)
20. 05:53 PM - Re: What I did today (Tommy Walker)
21. 05:59 PM - Re: What I did today (leinad)
22. 06:08 PM - Builders dinner gettogether (LarryMcFarland)
23. 06:49 PM - Re: Builders dinner gettogether (Jon Croke)
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If you haven't seen yet, it is worth it:
http://www.eaa.org/video/homebuilders.html
I like Wally Anderson's video Strategy for Complet... (?)
And, while you are there, take a peek at the Airventure arrivals video. The
arrival of RV formations is impressive.
http://www.eaa.org/video/airventure.html
Happy building
Carlos
CH601-HD, plans
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Hello All,
-
Zenith calls for Loctite Stick and Seal waterproof adhesive for the canopy
rubber trim.- I can't seem to find the suggested stuff at Wal-Mart as Zen
ith suggests but find Loctite Stick and Seal Oil and Gas.- Not sure if th
is is the same stuff, where did you find it-and also wonder what everyone
is using if different than the Loctite.
Bill Pagan
EAA Tech Counselor #4395
601XL QBK/Corvair/N565BW (RES)
=0A=0A=0A
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Thanks for the lead, Carlos
I attended two forums by Wally at Oshkosh in 2006 and he was excellent.
I''d bet that his builder assist company in Eugene is excellent for RV
builders.
Thanks for the tip and for reminding me of those EAA videos. I just wihc I
had a faster, more reliable Internet connection so that I could download &
watch them in real time. It would be great if there was a way to download
them with FTP or Bit Torrent and then play them straight from my hard
drive. Does anyone know how to do that? Or, if the collection were
available on a CD.
Terry
At 09:48 AM 7/28/2009 -0400, Carlos wrote:
>If you haven't seen yet, it is worth it:
>
><http://www.eaa.org/video/homebuilders.html>http://www.eaa.org/video/homebuilders.html
>I like Wally Anderson's video Strategy for Complet... (?)
>
>And, while you are there, take a peek at the Airventure arrivals video.
>The arrival of RV formations is impressive.
>
><http://www.eaa.org/video/airventure.html>http://www.eaa.org/video/airventure.html
>
>
>Happy building
>
>
>Carlos
Terry Phillips ZBAGer
ttp44~at~rkymtn.net
Corvallis MT
601XL/Jab 3300 s .. l .. o .. o .. w build kit - Tail, flaps, & ailerons
are done; waiting on the wings
http://www.mykitlog.com/N47TP/
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Terry, I don't know if it is possible to just download it.
The videos are played with Adobe Flash Player, and the menus don't show any
option to save the video.
I also checked the EAA store, but I did not find those videos there.
I would suggest writing to the webmaster ( webmaster@eaa.org ) or calling
800-564-6322.
Regards
Carlos
do not archive
2009/7/28 Terry Phillips <ttp44@rkymtn.net>
> Thanks for the lead, Carlos
>
> I attended two forums by Wally at Oshkosh in 2006 and he was excellent.
> I''d bet that his builder assist company in Eugene is excellent for RV
> builders.
>
> Thanks for the tip and for reminding me of those EAA videos. I just wihc I
> had a faster, more reliable Internet connection so that I could download &
> watch them in real time. It would be great if there was a way to download
> them with FTP or Bit Torrent and then play them straight from my hard drive.
> Does anyone know how to do that? Or, if the collection were available on a
> CD.
>
> Terry
>
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I found mine in the paint dept at the local Wal-Mart and I used Poly Zap
found at the local Hobby Shop for attaching the rubber seal straight to the
canopy where rubber attaches to metal use the Stick and Seal. David Coberly
601XL Corvair
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| Subject: | Re: What I did today |
I'm not Dan, but here's a jpg file of the stringers/stiffeners I put in my 701
wing skins.
Do Not Archive
Tommy Walker in Alabama
[quote="eldenej(at)yahoo.com"]Dan,
Do you by any chance have photos of the stringers?
Elden Jacobson
xl/3300 Do not archive
--- On Tue, 7/28/09, leinad wrote:
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Tommy Walker
N8701 - Anniston, AL
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| Subject: | Re: What I did today |
Tommy ,is you skin thickness .016 or ,025
Wade Jones South East Texas
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tommy Walker" <twalker@cableone.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 2:30 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: What I did today
>
> I'm not Dan, but here's a jpg file of the stringers/stiffeners I put in my
> 701 wing skins.
> Do Not Archive
>
> Tommy Walker in Alabama
>
> [quote="eldenej(at)yahoo.com"]Dan,
>
> Do you by any chance have photos of the stringers?
>
> Elden Jacobson
> xl/3300 Do not archive
>
> --- On Tue, 7/28/09, leinad wrote:
>
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> Tommy Walker
> N8701 - Anniston, AL
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=255019#255019
>
>
> Attachments:
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> http://forums.matronics.com//files/stringer_194.jpg
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| Subject: | Re: What I did today |
Hi Wade,
Thin, ain't they? LOL I think they are just there to keep the air out. :)
Yep, all skins except the bottom cabin skin is .016 on a 701.
wjones(at)brazoriainet.co wrote:
> Tommy ,is you skin thickness .016 or ,025
> Wade Jones South East Texas
>
> ---
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Tommy Walker
N8701 - Anniston, AL
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On Tuesday 28 July 2009 14:19, Carlos Sa wrote:
> Terry, I don't know if it is possible to just download it.
> The videos are played with Adobe Flash Player, and the menus don't show any
> option to save the video.
> I also checked the EAA store, but I did not find those videos there.
> I would suggest writing to the webmaster ( webmaster@eaa.org ) or calling
> 800-564-6322.
There are programs which will capture flash video from the web site. An
example is: http://www.web-video-downloader.com/
There are plenty of others; it just depeneds on which you personally like.
There are other programs which will convert the flash video to something a
little more conventional, like mpeg2. Or, if you don't object to flash, you
can save it that way and play it on your computer.
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Do not archive.
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Jim B Belcher
BS, MS Physics, Math, Computer Science
A&P/IA
Retired aerospace technical manager
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I've also found it in at two different chain auto parts places. Autozone and Advance.
It shouldn't be that hard to find it isn't really a specialty product.
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W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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Hi Bill,
I used a product called Poly Zap. It's really little more than a crazy
glue, but it does the job. You have to put about one drop each inch in
the rubber groove to keep from getting it outside the
boundary of the rubber. It holds great!
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
Bill Pagan wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> Zenith calls for Loctite Stick and Seal waterproof adhesive for the
> canopy rubber trim. I can't seem to find the suggested stuff at
> Wal-Mart as Zenith suggests but find Loctite Stick and Seal Oil and
> Gas. Not sure if this is the same stuff, where did you find it and
> also wonder what everyone is using if different than the Loctite.
>
> Bill Pagan
> EAA Tech Counselor #4395
> 601XL QBK/Corvair/N565BW (RES)
>
>
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On Tuesday 28 July 2009 15:44, Jim Belcher wrote:
>
> On Tuesday 28 July 2009 14:19, Carlos Sa wrote:
> > Terry, I don't know if it is possible to just download it.
> > The videos are played with Adobe Flash Player, and the menus don't show
> > any option to save the video.
> > I also checked the EAA store, but I did not find those videos there.
> > I would suggest writing to the webmaster ( webmaster@eaa.org ) or
> > calling 800-564-6322.
>
> There are programs which will capture flash video from the web site. An
> example is: http://www.web-video-downloader.com/
>
<snip>
Update:
I was able to download the flash videos using the software listed above. Boy,
is the Oshkosh server slow! The best I was able to do was about 11k download.
It took about 20 minutes.
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Jim B Belcher
BS, MS Physics, Math, Computer Science
A&P/IA
Retired aerospace technical manager
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| Subject: | Re: What I did today |
Eldon,
I'm attaching this picture, but please keep in mind, I have no idea what I'm doing
here. My wings are close to being closed, so I added the stringers the way
I thought I'd heard them described. When I asked for advice a week or so ago
about these, no one responded. But I see Tommy's photos are in the other direction!
This may be my big goof #2. If anyone knows how these are suppose to
be installed please speak up.
Dan
[quote="eldenej(at)yahoo.com"]Dan,
Do you by any chance have photos of the stringers?
Elden Jacobson
xl/3300 Do not archive
--- On Tue, 7/28/09, leinad wrote:
>
> From: leinad
> Subject: Re: What I did today
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Date: Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 7:59 AM
>
>
> Yesterday I cut all the openings for the gas tanks in the left wing. Today I
riveted the anti oil can strings to the top skin.
> Dan
> 601xl/corvair scratch builder
>
> --------
> Scratch building XL with Corvair Engine
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=254935#254935 (http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=254935#254935)
>
>
>
>
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> [b]
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Scratch building XL with Corvair Engine
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| Subject: | Re: What I did today |
Dan,
Don't worry, that's how I did mine.
Cheers
Peter
Wonthaggi Australia
http://zodiac.cpc-world.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of leinad
Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2009 9:42 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: What I did today
Eldon,
I'm attaching this picture, but please keep in mind, I have no idea what I'm
doing here. My wings are close to being closed, so I added the stringers
the way I thought I'd heard them described. When I asked for advice a week
or so ago about these, no one responded. But I see Tommy's photos are in
the other direction! This may be my big goof #2. If anyone knows how these
are suppose to be installed please speak up.
Dan
[quote="eldenej(at)yahoo.com"]Dan,
Do you by any chance have photos of the stringers?
Elden Jacobson
xl/3300 Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: What I did today |
Per the 650 plans, the optional L angles go from the 4th rib to the wing tip, parallel
to the main wing spar and 425mm aft of the main spar rivet line.
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Larry Winger
Tustin, CA
Plans building 601XL/650 with Corvair
Fuselage on gear
Canopy nearly complete
www.mykitlog.com/lwinger
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| Subject: | Re: What I did today |
Peter,
Nice work. I checked out your website. Thanks for posting.
Dan
vk3eka(at)bigpond.net.au wrote:
> Dan,
>
> Don't worry, that's how I did mine.
>
> Cheers
>
> Peter
> Wonthaggi Australia
> http://zodiac.cpc-world.com
>
>
>
> --
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Scratch building XL with Corvair Engine
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| Subject: | LRI probe placement |
I've already cut the hole for my LRI probe in the wingskin, but I wonder if someone
has an opinion about placement. When I chose the placement I didn't consider
that the vent tube for one of the tanks will come down in front of the probe
not too far away. Could this cause enough air disturbance to intefere with
the probe? I put behind the spar at rib 6. Thinking of patching the hole and
moving it to rib 7. Anyone using these, where do you place yours?
Dan
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Scratch building XL with Corvair Engine
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| Subject: | Oshkosh - ride to dinner on thurs |
Hi guys,
Is there anyone at oshkosh that i could hitch a ride with to the builders d
inner on thurs ?
My cell is 828-284-0459.
Thanks,
John davis
n601jd
16 hrs and counting...
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Carlos,
Ah! The luxury of a broad band connection, you lucky *%^*#! You ARE right though.
EAA has some great material in their builders section.
Dan
[quote="carlossa52(at)gmail.com"]If you haven't seen yet, it is worth it:
http://www.eaa.org/video/homebuilders.html (http://www.eaa.org/video/homebuilders.html)
I like Wally Anderson's video Strategy for Complet... (?)
And, while you are there, take a peek at the Airventure arrivals video. The arrival
of RV formations is impressive.
http://www.eaa.org/video/airventure.html (http://www.eaa.org/video/airventure.html)
Happy building
Carlos
CH601-HD, plans
> [b]
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Scratch building XL with Corvair Engine
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| Subject: | Re: What I did today |
Dan,
Who am I to say someone is not doing it "correctly? I just copied what I saw in
other places. Jon Croke did his 701 this way. That is not to say his way is
best.
I just wanted to cut down on some of the oil canning in the 701 with the .016 skins.
I do like the they way your stringers are aligned. Who knows? Maybe your way
is the better way!
Regards,
Tommy Walker in Alabama
Do Not Archive Any Thing I ever post on this or any other site.
:)
leinad wrote:
> Eldon,
> I'm attaching this picture, but please keep in mind, I have no idea what I'm
doing here. My wings are close to being closed, so I added the stringers the
way I thought I'd heard them described. When I asked for advice a week or so
ago about these, no one responded. But I see Tommy's photos are in the other
direction! This may be my big goof #2. If anyone knows how these are suppose
to be installed please speak up.
> Dan
>
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Tommy Walker
N8701 - Anniston, AL
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| Subject: | Re: What I did today |
Tommy,
Thanks for the post. I just want to make sure I'm doing something dumb, like adding
stiffness where it doesn't belong. Evidently I've done it the way they
are doing it on the 650, so I'm satisfied.
When will #2 be flying?
Dan
Tommy Walker wrote:
> Dan,
> Who am I to say someone is not doing it "correctly? I just copied what I saw
in other places. Jon Croke did his 701 this way. That is not to say his way
is best.
>
> I just wanted to cut down on some of the oil canning in the 701 with the .016
skins.
>
> I do like the they way your stringers are aligned. Who knows? Maybe your way
is the better way!
>
> Regards,
> Tommy Walker in Alabama
>
> Do Not Archive Any Thing I ever post on this or any other site.
> :)
>
>
>
> leinad wrote:
> > Eldon,
> > I'm attaching this picture, but please keep in mind, I have no idea what I'm
doing here. My wings are close to being closed, so I added the stringers the
way I thought I'd heard them described. When I asked for advice a week or so
ago about these, no one responded. But I see Tommy's photos are in the other
direction! This may be my big goof #2. If anyone knows how these are suppose
to be installed please speak up.
> > Dan
> >
>
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Scratch building XL with Corvair Engine
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| Subject: | Builders dinner gettogether |
Does anyone have a map of where and how one gets to the area by car?
Some specific guidance perhaps?
Larry McFarland
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| Subject: | Re: Builders dinner gettogether |
This should help:
Robbins restaurant
1810 Omro Rd, Oshkosh, WI 54902
Link:
<http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1810+Omro+Rd,+Oshkosh,+WI&ie=UTF8&ll=44.013188,-88.575897&spn=0.068888,0.154324&z=13>
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Subject: Zenith-List: Builders dinner gettogether
>
> Does anyone have a map of where and how one gets to the area by car?
> Some specific guidance perhaps?
>
> Larry McFarland
>
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