---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 07/28/09: 23 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:58 AM - EAA videos (Carlos Sa) 2. 11:49 AM - Canopy Seal (Bill Pagan) 3. 11:54 AM - Re: EAA videos (Terry Phillips) 4. 12:22 PM - Re: EAA videos (Carlos Sa) 5. 12:23 PM - Re: Canopy Seal (Davcoberly@wmconnect.com) 6. 12:31 PM - Re: What I did today (Tommy Walker) 7. 01:05 PM - Re: Re: What I did today (wade jones) 8. 01:32 PM - Re: What I did today (Tommy Walker) 9. 01:45 PM - Re: EAA videos (Jim Belcher) 10. 02:54 PM - Re: Canopy Seal (Gig Giacona) 11. 03:24 PM - Re: [Probable Spam] Canopy Seal (LarryMcFarland) 12. 03:50 PM - Re: EAA videos (Jim Belcher) 13. 04:43 PM - Re: What I did today (leinad) 14. 04:49 PM - Re: Re: What I did today (Peter W Johnson) 15. 04:58 PM - Re: What I did today (lwinger) 16. 05:00 PM - Re: What I did today (leinad) 17. 05:03 PM - LRI probe placement (leinad) 18. 05:07 PM - Oshkosh - ride to dinner on thurs (John Davis) 19. 05:17 PM - Re: EAA videos (leinad) 20. 05:53 PM - Re: What I did today (Tommy Walker) 21. 05:59 PM - Re: What I did today (leinad) 22. 06:08 PM - Builders dinner gettogether (LarryMcFarland) 23. 06:49 PM - Re: Builders dinner gettogether (Jon Croke) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:58:19 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: EAA videos From: Carlos Sa If you haven't seen yet, it is worth it: http://www.eaa.org/video/homebuilders.html I like Wally Anderson's video Strategy for Complet... (?) And, while you are there, take a peek at the Airventure arrivals video. The arrival of RV formations is impressive. http://www.eaa.org/video/airventure.html Happy building Carlos CH601-HD, plans ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 11:49:56 AM PST US From: Bill Pagan Subject: Zenith-List: Canopy Seal Hello All, - Zenith calls for Loctite Stick and Seal waterproof adhesive for the canopy rubber trim.- I can't seem to find the suggested stuff at Wal-Mart as Zen ith suggests but find Loctite Stick and Seal Oil and Gas.- Not sure if th is is the same stuff, where did you find it-and also wonder what everyone is using if different than the Loctite. Bill Pagan EAA Tech Counselor #4395 601XL QBK/Corvair/N565BW (RES) =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:54:59 AM PST US From: Terry Phillips Subject: Re: Zenith-List: EAA videos Thanks for the lead, Carlos I attended two forums by Wally at Oshkosh in 2006 and he was excellent. I''d bet that his builder assist company in Eugene is excellent for RV builders. Thanks for the tip and for reminding me of those EAA videos. I just wihc I had a faster, more reliable Internet connection so that I could download & watch them in real time. It would be great if there was a way to download them with FTP or Bit Torrent and then play them straight from my hard drive. Does anyone know how to do that? Or, if the collection were available on a CD. Terry At 09:48 AM 7/28/2009 -0400, Carlos wrote: >If you haven't seen yet, it is worth it: > >http://www.eaa.org/video/homebuilders.html >I like Wally Anderson's video Strategy for Complet... (?) > >And, while you are there, take a peek at the Airventure arrivals video. >The arrival of RV formations is impressive. > >http://www.eaa.org/video/airventure.html > > >Happy building > > >Carlos Terry Phillips ZBAGer ttp44~at~rkymtn.net Corvallis MT 601XL/Jab 3300 s .. l .. o .. o .. w build kit - Tail, flaps, & ailerons are done; waiting on the wings http://www.mykitlog.com/N47TP/ ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:22:15 PM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith-List: EAA videos From: Carlos Sa Terry, I don't know if it is possible to just download it. The videos are played with Adobe Flash Player, and the menus don't show any option to save the video. I also checked the EAA store, but I did not find those videos there. I would suggest writing to the webmaster ( webmaster@eaa.org ) or calling 800-564-6322. Regards Carlos do not archive 2009/7/28 Terry Phillips > Thanks for the lead, Carlos > > I attended two forums by Wally at Oshkosh in 2006 and he was excellent. > I''d bet that his builder assist company in Eugene is excellent for RV > builders. > > Thanks for the tip and for reminding me of those EAA videos. I just wihc I > had a faster, more reliable Internet connection so that I could download & > watch them in real time. It would be great if there was a way to download > them with FTP or Bit Torrent and then play them straight from my hard drive. > Does anyone know how to do that? Or, if the collection were available on a > CD. > > Terry > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:23:18 PM PST US From: Davcoberly@wmconnect.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Canopy Seal I found mine in the paint dept at the local Wal-Mart and I used Poly Zap found at the local Hobby Shop for attaching the rubber seal straight to the canopy where rubber attaches to metal use the Stick and Seal. David Coberly 601XL Corvair ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:31:02 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: What I did today From: "Tommy Walker" I'm not Dan, but here's a jpg file of the stringers/stiffeners I put in my 701 wing skins. Do Not Archive Tommy Walker in Alabama [quote="eldenej(at)yahoo.com"]Dan, Do you by any chance have photos of the stringers? Elden Jacobson xl/3300 Do not archive --- On Tue, 7/28/09, leinad wrote: -------- Tommy Walker N8701 - Anniston, AL Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=255019#255019 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/stringer_194.jpg ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:05:07 PM PST US From: "wade jones" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: What I did today Tommy ,is you skin thickness .016 or ,025 Wade Jones South East Texas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tommy Walker" Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 2:30 PM Subject: Zenith-List: Re: What I did today > > I'm not Dan, but here's a jpg file of the stringers/stiffeners I put in my > 701 wing skins. > Do Not Archive > > Tommy Walker in Alabama > > [quote="eldenej(at)yahoo.com"]Dan, > > Do you by any chance have photos of the stringers? > > Elden Jacobson > xl/3300 Do not archive > > --- On Tue, 7/28/09, leinad wrote: > > -------- > Tommy Walker > N8701 - Anniston, AL > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=255019#255019 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/stringer_194.jpg > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:32:36 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: What I did today From: "Tommy Walker" Hi Wade, Thin, ain't they? LOL I think they are just there to keep the air out. :) Yep, all skins except the bottom cabin skin is .016 on a 701. wjones(at)brazoriainet.co wrote: > Tommy ,is you skin thickness .016 or ,025 > Wade Jones South East Texas > > --- -------- Tommy Walker N8701 - Anniston, AL Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=255026#255026 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 01:45:09 PM PST US From: Jim Belcher Subject: Re: Zenith-List: EAA videos On Tuesday 28 July 2009 14:19, Carlos Sa wrote: > Terry, I don't know if it is possible to just download it. > The videos are played with Adobe Flash Player, and the menus don't show any > option to save the video. > I also checked the EAA store, but I did not find those videos there. > I would suggest writing to the webmaster ( webmaster@eaa.org ) or calling > 800-564-6322. There are programs which will capture flash video from the web site. An example is: http://www.web-video-downloader.com/ There are plenty of others; it just depeneds on which you personally like. There are other programs which will convert the flash video to something a little more conventional, like mpeg2. Or, if you don't object to flash, you can save it that way and play it on your computer. -- ============================================ Do not archive. ============================================ Jim B Belcher BS, MS Physics, Math, Computer Science A&P/IA Retired aerospace technical manager ============================================ ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 02:54:39 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Canopy Seal From: "Gig Giacona" I've also found it in at two different chain auto parts places. Autozone and Advance. It shouldn't be that hard to find it isn't really a specialty product. -------- W.R. "Gig" Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=255032#255032 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 03:24:50 PM PST US From: LarryMcFarland Subject: Re: [Probable Spam] Zenith-List: Canopy Seal Hi Bill, I used a product called Poly Zap. It's really little more than a crazy glue, but it does the job. You have to put about one drop each inch in the rubber groove to keep from getting it outside the boundary of the rubber. It holds great! Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com Bill Pagan wrote: > Hello All, > > Zenith calls for Loctite Stick and Seal waterproof adhesive for the > canopy rubber trim. I can't seem to find the suggested stuff at > Wal-Mart as Zenith suggests but find Loctite Stick and Seal Oil and > Gas. Not sure if this is the same stuff, where did you find it and > also wonder what everyone is using if different than the Loctite. > > Bill Pagan > EAA Tech Counselor #4395 > 601XL QBK/Corvair/N565BW (RES) > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 03:50:48 PM PST US From: Jim Belcher Subject: Re: Zenith-List: EAA videos On Tuesday 28 July 2009 15:44, Jim Belcher wrote: > > On Tuesday 28 July 2009 14:19, Carlos Sa wrote: > > Terry, I don't know if it is possible to just download it. > > The videos are played with Adobe Flash Player, and the menus don't show > > any option to save the video. > > I also checked the EAA store, but I did not find those videos there. > > I would suggest writing to the webmaster ( webmaster@eaa.org ) or > > calling 800-564-6322. > > There are programs which will capture flash video from the web site. An > example is: http://www.web-video-downloader.com/ > Update: I was able to download the flash videos using the software listed above. Boy, is the Oshkosh server slow! The best I was able to do was about 11k download. It took about 20 minutes. ============================================ Do not archive. ============================================ Jim B Belcher BS, MS Physics, Math, Computer Science A&P/IA Retired aerospace technical manager ============================================ ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 04:43:18 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: What I did today From: "leinad" Eldon, I'm attaching this picture, but please keep in mind, I have no idea what I'm doing here. My wings are close to being closed, so I added the stringers the way I thought I'd heard them described. When I asked for advice a week or so ago about these, no one responded. But I see Tommy's photos are in the other direction! This may be my big goof #2. If anyone knows how these are suppose to be installed please speak up. Dan [quote="eldenej(at)yahoo.com"]Dan, Do you by any chance have photos of the stringers? Elden Jacobson xl/3300 Do not archive --- On Tue, 7/28/09, leinad wrote: > > From: leinad > Subject: Re: What I did today > To: zenith-list@matronics.com > Date: Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 7:59 AM > > > Yesterday I cut all the openings for the gas tanks in the left wing. Today I riveted the anti oil can strings to the top skin. > Dan > 601xl/corvair scratch builder > > -------- > Scratch building XL with Corvair Engine > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=254935#254935 (http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=254935#254935) > > > > > > > > > [b] -------- Scratch building XL with Corvair Engine Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=255040#255040 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/stringerright1_209.jpg ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 04:49:55 PM PST US From: "Peter W Johnson" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: What I did today Dan, Don't worry, that's how I did mine. Cheers Peter Wonthaggi Australia http://zodiac.cpc-world.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of leinad Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2009 9:42 AM Subject: Zenith-List: Re: What I did today Eldon, I'm attaching this picture, but please keep in mind, I have no idea what I'm doing here. My wings are close to being closed, so I added the stringers the way I thought I'd heard them described. When I asked for advice a week or so ago about these, no one responded. But I see Tommy's photos are in the other direction! This may be my big goof #2. If anyone knows how these are suppose to be installed please speak up. Dan [quote="eldenej(at)yahoo.com"]Dan, Do you by any chance have photos of the stringers? Elden Jacobson xl/3300 Do not archive ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 04:58:14 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: What I did today From: "lwinger" Per the 650 plans, the optional L angles go from the 4th rib to the wing tip, parallel to the main wing spar and 425mm aft of the main spar rivet line. -------- Larry Winger Tustin, CA Plans building 601XL/650 with Corvair Fuselage on gear Canopy nearly complete www.mykitlog.com/lwinger Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=255043#255043 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 05:00:02 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: What I did today From: "leinad" Peter, Nice work. I checked out your website. Thanks for posting. Dan vk3eka(at)bigpond.net.au wrote: > Dan, > > Don't worry, that's how I did mine. > > Cheers > > Peter > Wonthaggi Australia > http://zodiac.cpc-world.com > > > > -- -------- Scratch building XL with Corvair Engine Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=255044#255044 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 05:03:58 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: LRI probe placement From: "leinad" I've already cut the hole for my LRI probe in the wingskin, but I wonder if someone has an opinion about placement. When I chose the placement I didn't consider that the vent tube for one of the tanks will come down in front of the probe not too far away. Could this cause enough air disturbance to intefere with the probe? I put behind the spar at rib 6. Thinking of patching the hole and moving it to rib 7. Anyone using these, where do you place yours? Dan -------- Scratch building XL with Corvair Engine Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=255045#255045 ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 05:07:00 PM PST US From: John Davis Subject: Zenith-List: Oshkosh - ride to dinner on thurs Hi guys, Is there anyone at oshkosh that i could hitch a ride with to the builders d inner on thurs ? My cell is 828-284-0459. Thanks, John davis n601jd 16 hrs and counting... ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 05:17:53 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: EAA videos From: "leinad" Carlos, Ah! The luxury of a broad band connection, you lucky *%^*#! You ARE right though. EAA has some great material in their builders section. Dan [quote="carlossa52(at)gmail.com"]If you haven't seen yet, it is worth it: http://www.eaa.org/video/homebuilders.html (http://www.eaa.org/video/homebuilders.html) I like Wally Anderson's video Strategy for Complet... (?) And, while you are there, take a peek at the Airventure arrivals video. The arrival of RV formations is impressive. http://www.eaa.org/video/airventure.html (http://www.eaa.org/video/airventure.html) Happy building Carlos CH601-HD, plans > [b] -------- Scratch building XL with Corvair Engine Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=255048#255048 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 05:53:12 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: What I did today From: "Tommy Walker" Dan, Who am I to say someone is not doing it "correctly? I just copied what I saw in other places. Jon Croke did his 701 this way. That is not to say his way is best. I just wanted to cut down on some of the oil canning in the 701 with the .016 skins. I do like the they way your stringers are aligned. Who knows? Maybe your way is the better way! Regards, Tommy Walker in Alabama Do Not Archive Any Thing I ever post on this or any other site. :) leinad wrote: > Eldon, > I'm attaching this picture, but please keep in mind, I have no idea what I'm doing here. My wings are close to being closed, so I added the stringers the way I thought I'd heard them described. When I asked for advice a week or so ago about these, no one responded. But I see Tommy's photos are in the other direction! This may be my big goof #2. If anyone knows how these are suppose to be installed please speak up. > Dan > -------- Tommy Walker N8701 - Anniston, AL Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=255053#255053 ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 05:59:00 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: What I did today From: "leinad" Tommy, Thanks for the post. I just want to make sure I'm doing something dumb, like adding stiffness where it doesn't belong. Evidently I've done it the way they are doing it on the 650, so I'm satisfied. When will #2 be flying? Dan Tommy Walker wrote: > Dan, > Who am I to say someone is not doing it "correctly? I just copied what I saw in other places. Jon Croke did his 701 this way. That is not to say his way is best. > > I just wanted to cut down on some of the oil canning in the 701 with the .016 skins. > > I do like the they way your stringers are aligned. Who knows? Maybe your way is the better way! > > Regards, > Tommy Walker in Alabama > > Do Not Archive Any Thing I ever post on this or any other site. > :) > > > > leinad wrote: > > Eldon, > > I'm attaching this picture, but please keep in mind, I have no idea what I'm doing here. My wings are close to being closed, so I added the stringers the way I thought I'd heard them described. When I asked for advice a week or so ago about these, no one responded. But I see Tommy's photos are in the other direction! This may be my big goof #2. If anyone knows how these are suppose to be installed please speak up. > > Dan > > > -------- Scratch building XL with Corvair Engine Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=255054#255054 ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 06:08:45 PM PST US From: LarryMcFarland Subject: Zenith-List: Builders dinner gettogether Does anyone have a map of where and how one gets to the area by car? Some specific guidance perhaps? Larry McFarland ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 06:49:50 PM PST US From: "Jon Croke" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Builders dinner gettogether This should help: Robbins restaurant 1810 Omro Rd, Oshkosh, WI 54902 Link: This email was sent to you by a user on Google Maps (maps.google.com) ----- Original Message ----- Subject: Zenith-List: Builders dinner gettogether > > Does anyone have a map of where and how one gets to the area by car? > Some specific guidance perhaps? > > Larry McFarland > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 06:00:00 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message zenith-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Zenith-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/zenith-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/zenith-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.