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1. 09:52 AM - Re: Re: Builders dinner gettogether (Bill Naumuk)
2. 12:12 PM - Re: Builders dinner gettogether (Mitch Hodges)
3. 03:21 PM - Re: Re: Builders dinner gettogether (n801bh@netzero.com)
4. 03:55 PM - Re: Re: Builders dinner gettogether (Stanley Challgren)
5. 05:37 PM - Signed off to Solo the Sabrina Mark 1 !!! (Sabrina)
6. 05:43 PM - Re: Signed off to Solo the Sabrina Mark 1 !!! (Cory Emberson)
7. 06:21 PM - Re: Signed off to Solo the Sabrina Mark 1 !!! (Kevin Bonds)
8. 07:51 PM - Re: Signed off to Solo the Sabrina Mark 1 !!! (mcjon77)
9. 08:16 PM - Re: Re: Signed off to Solo the Sabrina Mark 1 !!! (Paul Mulwitz)
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| Subject: | Re: Builders dinner gettogether |
Larry-
Since only Mark has seen me before, I didn't get to speak to anyone
except when I was trying to get a T-shirt, I wasn't wearing a nametag
and wasn't foaming at the mouth I think you can rule attitude out. In
fact, I was upbeat at the possibility of finding an HDS T-shirt a
passerby wore and wanted to ask some questions about the 750. I have
since been contacted by the guy who makes all the Zenith apparel and he
confirmed that only hats were available; Mark recognized me but was
engaged in a conversation with a potential 750 buyer. I realize that
Oshkosh is like the Christmas buying season for the aviation industry
and didn't cut in. No big deal.
Back to work on the project. I have maybe two month's work left to
go, that means (Considering my time estimates) I'll be flying by 2011.
Bill
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----- Original Message -----
From: Lawrence Webber
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 9:15 PM
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: Builders dinner gettogether
maybe it was an attitude problem?
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| Subject: | Re: Builders dinner gettogether |
[quote="naumuk(at)windstream.net"]I realize that Oshkosh is like the Christmas
buying season for the aviation industry and didn't cut in. No big deal.
> ---
Never been to Oshkosh, but I have attended its little sister, Sun and Fun, since
1993 and each year have gone to the Zenith booth, where I also bought my (still
unfinished) 601HDS kit in 1995. The "salesmanship" at the booth has definitely
become more low key over the years. The past four or five years I've had
the same experience where I've stood in the display area for as much as 45
minutes looking at/in/around the planes and not been approached by a Zenith rep
of any type even though at times during the airshow, I'm the only one "looking
seriously". I know they don't know me, so it has struck me as odd. Glad to
see its not just me!
Now, if I go to the booth and engage someone they are always polite and helpful.
But, I have seen more than one potential buyer walk off after not being helped
other than by me or some other builder standing nearby and see the question
in the person's face.
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Mitch Hodges
N601MH (Zenith 601HDS)
Builder Log at http://www.hodges.aero
Wings Under Perpetual Construction
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| Subject: | Re: Builders dinner gettogether |
I guess I should chime in here. I spent alot of last week @ OSH in the Z
enith booth answering questions about my 801 that was displayed. All the
Zenith guys appeared to be actively working the crowd and answering que
stions. I just don't see them as being the kind of people to blow off an
yone....
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Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com
---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Mitch Hodges" <n601mh@HODGES.INFO>
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Builders dinner gettogether
[quote="naumuk(at)windstream.net"]I realize that Oshkosh is like the
Christmas buying season for the aviation industry and didn't cut in. No
big deal.
> ---
Never been to Oshkosh, but I have attended its little sister, Sun and Fu
n, since 1993 and each year have gone to the Zenith booth, where I also
bought my (still unfinished) 601HDS kit in 1995. The "salesmanship" at
the booth has definitely become more low key over the years. The past
four or five years I've had the same experience where I've stood in the
display area for as much as 45 minutes looking at/in/around the planes a
nd not been approached by a Zenith rep of any type even though at times
during the airshow, I'm the only one "looking seriously". I know they d
on't know me, so it has struck me as odd. Glad to see its not just me!
Now, if I go to the booth and engage someone they are always polite and
helpful. But, I have seen more than one potential buyer walk off after
not being helped other than by me or some other builder standing nearby
and see the question in the person's face.
--------
Mitch Hodges
N601MH (Zenith 601HDS)
Builder Log at http://www.hodges.aero
Wings Under Perpetual Construction
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=256014#256014
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| Subject: | Re: Builders dinner gettogether |
Mitch & others:
I wasn't at Oshkkosh this year and have never experienced the problem
you mentioned but your note of some other builder helping those with
questions might be a good idea. I would be happy to spend a couple of
hours answering questions others may have if things get busy. Maybe
some form of ID as special hats and buttons indicating (Satisfied
Zenith Builder) might help sales.
Stan Challgren
Previous 601 HDS builder
Current 701 builder
On Aug 4, 2009, at 13:11 , Mitch Hodges wrote:
>
> [quote="naumuk(at)windstream.net"]I realize that Oshkosh is like
> the Christmas buying season for the aviation industry and didn't
> cut in. No big deal.
>
>> ---
>
>
> Never been to Oshkosh, but I have attended its little sister, Sun
> and Fun, since 1993 and each year have gone to the Zenith booth,
> where I also bought my (still unfinished) 601HDS kit in 1995. The
> "salesmanship" at the booth has definitely become more low key over
> the years. The past four or five years I've had the same experience
> where I've stood in the display area for as much as 45 minutes
> looking at/in/around the planes and not been approached by a Zenith
> rep of any type even though at times during the airshow, I'm the
> only one "looking seriously". I know they don't know me, so it has
> struck me as odd. Glad to see its not just me!
>
> Now, if I go to the booth and engage someone they are always polite
> and helpful. But, I have seen more than one potential buyer walk
> off after not being helped other than by me or some other builder
> standing nearby and see the question in the person's face.
>
> --------
> Mitch Hodges
> N601MH (Zenith 601HDS)
> Builder Log at http://www.hodges.aero
> Wings Under Perpetual Construction
>
>
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| Subject: | Signed off to Solo the Sabrina Mark 1 !!! |
I completed my pre-US solo training today and Jay signed me off!!!
I will travel the country for a couple weeks and then return to Chicago.
It will be so cool to conduct my first US solo in the airplane I built!
Thank you Jay!
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| Subject: | Re: Signed off to Solo the Sabrina Mark 1 !!! |
That's terrific, Sabrina! Well done!
Cory
Sabrina wrote:
>
> I completed my pre-US solo training today and Jay signed me off!!!
>
>
> I will travel the country for a couple weeks and then return to Chicago.
>
>
> It will be so cool to conduct my first US solo in the airplane I built!
>
>
> Thank you Jay!
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=256066#256066
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Signed off to Solo the Sabrina Mark 1 !!! |
I think it is interesting to note that you can't ride your Harley across a
couple of different states because it's displacement is over 500cc, but you
can build and fly your own aircraft all over the country. Something about
that is funny (not funny suspicious but funny ha ha). I'm not sure exactly
what it is, but it's funny. Congrats Sabrina!
Oh BTW, Go Cubs!
Kevin Bonds
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sabrina
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 7:36 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Signed off to Solo the Sabrina Mark 1 !!!
I completed my pre-US solo training today and Jay signed me off!!!
I will travel the country for a couple weeks and then return to Chicago.
It will be so cool to conduct my first US solo in the airplane I built!
Thank you Jay!
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=256066#256066
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| Subject: | Re: Signed off to Solo the Sabrina Mark 1 !!! |
Reminds me of a story a guy on one of the aviation podcasts (uncontrolled airspace)
mentioned. He got his pilot's certificate at 17, so he could rent an airplane,
but couldn't rent a car.
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Jon McDonald
Building Sonex #1287
Thinking ahead about a Zenith CH 701 :D
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| Subject: | Re: Signed off to Solo the Sabrina Mark 1 !!! |
Oddly enough, flying is a lot safer than driving . . .
(and driving a motorcycle is really dangerous before you get past the
first 6 months. If you last that long, then the sky is the limit . . .)
Paul
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At 07:50 PM 8/4/2009, you wrote:
>Reminds me of a story a guy on one of the aviation podcasts
>(uncontrolled airspace) mentioned. He got his pilot's certificate
>at 17, so he could rent an airplane, but couldn't rent a car.
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