Zenith-List Digest Archive

Sat 08/08/09


Total Messages Posted: 9



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 05:28 AM - Re: Re:601XL canopy height (Gary Ray)
     2. 06:21 AM - Center radio stack size in XL (chris Sinfield)
     3. 06:56 AM - Re: First Condition Inspection Flight (sdthatcher)
     4. 07:07 AM - Re: Center radio stack size in XL (Paul Mulwitz)
     5. 07:52 AM - Re: Center radio stack size in XL (jaybannist@cs.com)
     6. 09:17 AM - Re: Center radio stack size in XL (Gig Giacona)
     7. 10:44 AM - Re: Center radio stack size in XL (leinad)
     8. 02:13 PM - Top skin rollover (Bob McArdle)
     9. 03:45 PM - Re: Center radio stack size in XL (chris Sinfield)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:28:41 AM PST US
    From: "Gary Ray" <davgray@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re:601XL canopy height
    I fly a 601XL, and built my canopy side rails 20 mm higher than called for in the plans. What was called out as 75 mm height is now 95 mm. This has worked out very well. I have 27 mm mimimum edge distance from the nearest mounting hole instead of 7mm that it would have been and I have good head clearance with the original 601 canopy. My original thought was that the 7 mm edge distance was too close for a plexiglass 5/16" hole. I was afraid of cracking the canopy. I drilled my canopy with a 1/2" step drill with very light force at room temperature. The bit was allowed to warm the site as it was cutting and the bit was held perfectly perpendicular to the curvature of the area. No cracks after 2.1/2 years. Gary Ray 6' - 1-1/2 " height davgray@sbcglobal.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "chuck960" <chuckde@roadrunner.com> Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 12:42 AM Subject: Zenith-List: Re: 601 to 650....is it worth it? > > Since I am building the 650 kit I feel qualified to throw in a penny or two. > I see little advantage to change the wing incidence if you already have 601 parts. The angle change of 2 degrees is to make it easier to see over the nose. You need different front side skins, the four parts that make up the seat bottom, arm rest, rear wing attachment parts and more. The canopy switch might be worth it though. I really like the way it looks. It depends on how deep your pockets are and how tall you are. 8) > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=256608#256608 > >


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    Time: 06:21:10 AM PST US
    Subject: Center radio stack size in XL
    From: "chris Sinfield" <chris_sinfield@yahoo.com.au>
    Hi all just want some real life exp before I cut the area and install. I am planing to install a Garmin 495 with Gizmo at the top, then a Icom A-210 below, then a Garmin TX below the radio., then the Jab throttle, choke and heater at the bottom. In theory it all fits but in practice, will the engine controls get in the way of the TX? Has anyone used this set up in an XL dash? Chris Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=256630#256630


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    Time: 06:56:32 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: First Condition Inspection Flight
    From: "sdthatcher" <s_thatcher@bellsouth.net>
    Hi Dan, Thanks for the comment. Hopefully next posting I'll be able to spend more time making video of the wing lockers, instruments, etc rather than bouncing around all over. I know some have expressed concern that the lockers were worrisome however they sure don't look like there is any movement of them while in flight. Hang in there. leinad wrote: > Scott, > Thanks for posting the video. Great looking plane. > Dan Dempsey > 601xlcorvair plans builder > do not archive -------- Scott Thatcher, Palm Beach Gardens, FL 601XL with Corvair, Registered as E-LSA N601EL, EAA203 28 hours and climbing. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=256635#256635


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    Time: 07:07:46 AM PST US
    From: Paul Mulwitz <psm@att.net>
    Subject: Re: Center radio stack size in XL
    Hi Chris, I installed the full engine and controls before considering where my electronics might wind up. This worked well. The engine controls are very sensitive to location, but the electronics are pretty flexible as to exact location. When installing the electronics you will need to design and implement some sort of structure to attach the various boxes to. This may take up some room - particularly between instruments and radio/electronic stacks. Of course, all of this stuff must stay clear of the cables and other stuff needed to control the engine. You will need space to service the engine controls too. My solution (mostly copied from other people's approaches) was to cut two large inspection holes in the top skin between the instrument panel and fire wall. This allows easy access from the top and also some access to the very low spots on the instrument panel from the bottom. See the picture below. Good luck, Paul XL waiting for engineering changes [] At 06:20 AM 8/8/2009, you wrote: >Hi all >just want some real life exp before I cut the area and install. >I am planing to install a Garmin 495 with Gizmo at the top, then a >Icom A-210 below, then a Garmin TX below the radio., then the Jab >throttle, choke and heater at the bottom. > >In theory it all fits but in practice, will the engine controls get >in the way of the TX? > >Has anyone used this set up in an XL dash? >Chris


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    Time: 07:52:28 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Center radio stack size in XL
    From: jaybannist@cs.com
    Chris, I have pretty much this same set up; except Narco transponder and controls for Carvair engine. It works for me.? See drawing. & photo. Jay Bannister -----Original Message----- From: chris Sinfield <chris_sinfield@yahoo.com.au> Sent: Sat, Aug 8, 2009 8:20 am Subject: Zenith-List: Center radio stack size in XL Hi all just want some real life exp before I cut the area and install. I am planing to install a Garmin 495 with Gizmo at the top, then a Icom A-210 below, then a Garmin TX below the radio., then the Jab throttle, choke and heater at the bottom. In theory it all fits but in practice, will the engine controls get in the way of the TX? Has anyone used this set up in an XL dash? Chris Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=256630#256630 ________________________________________________________________________ Email message sent from CompuServe - visit us today at http://www.cs.com


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    Time: 09:17:25 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Center radio stack size in XL
    From: "Gig Giacona" <wrgiacona@gmail.com>
    Chris, I have the exact same radio stack you list. The x-ponder is a 320A. Fits perfectly with the Throttle, Mixture and Carb Heat under the stack. -------- W.R. &quot;Gig&quot; Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=256656#256656


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    Time: 10:44:49 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Center radio stack size in XL
    From: "leinad" <leinad@hughes.net>
    Chris, My setup is a lot like Jay's. Quite a few pictures at the link below. Dan 601xl/corvair plans builder http://daniel.dempseyfamily.us/zodiac/instrumentpanel/index.html -------- Scratch building XL with Corvair Engine Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=256667#256667


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    Time: 02:13:40 PM PST US
    From: "Bob McArdle" <rmacpunk@netzero.net>
    Subject: Top skin rollover
    How did you guys handle the top skin rollover on 6B21-1 on the 601XL? TIA Bob


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    Time: 03:45:52 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Center radio stack size in XL
    From: "chris Sinfield" <chris_sinfield@yahoo.com.au>
    Thanks everyone Just wanted to double check before cutting. and Yes Paul I have the top FWD section removable.. Chris.. Do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=256691#256691




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