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1. 06:08 AM - Re: Top skin rollover ()
2. 08:13 AM - Re: 601 to 650....is it worth it? (PatrickW)
3. 09:42 AM - Re: Top skin rollover (Carlos Sa)
4. 09:52 AM - Re: 601 to 650....is it worth it responses (crvsecretary@aol.com)
5. 10:46 AM - Re: Top skin rollover (AZFlyer)
6. 10:47 AM - Re: Top skin rollover (AZFlyer)
7. 10:55 AM - Re: Re: 601 to 650....is it worth it responses (Bryan Martin)
8. 12:07 PM - Top skin rollover (Bob McArdle)
9. 01:18 PM - Chat Room Reminder (George Race)
10. 01:18 PM - Overvoltage (Gary Thomas)
11. 02:39 PM - Re: Overvoltage (Craig Payne)
12. 04:10 PM - centre wing, HD(S) question (Carlos Sa)
13. 05:20 PM - Re: centre wing, HD(S) question (George Swinford)
14. 09:39 PM - Re: centre wing, HD(S) question (MHerder)
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| Subject: | Re: Top skin rollover |
<<
If I were to do it again, I believe I would not roll the skin, but
simply finish the outstanding edge with a molded U-channel, ACS p/n
05-01400 or something similar.
George Swinford>>
I did not have the foresight to anticipate how unsatisfied I would be with tapping
that free edge down to the tubing contour. Afterward, I knew that I would
never be happy looking at that result everytime I entered and exited the airplane.
I bought some automotive radiator hose, cut it length-wise and slipped it
over the ugly edge. It has to stop a little bitshort of the bottom on both sides
to avoid interferring with the canopy but I can live with that. Now I have
a decent looking rubber molding to conceal the middle top skin's forward edge...
problem solved.
Ed
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| Subject: | Re: 601 to 650....is it worth it? |
Guys who are not of above-average height could go with the one-piece XL canopy,
but with the 650 latch system.
That's the best of both worlds. The two-piece 650 canopy (that I went with) is
a lot of work, but the 650 latch system isn't too bad.
I'm 6'3", and while I've flown in a number of traditional XL's, the additional
head room that the 650 canopy provides is welcome. For tall guys it starts to
matter if you're "tall torso'd" or "tall legged".
- Pat
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Patrick
XL/650/Corvair
N63PZ (reserved)
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| Subject: | Re: Top skin rollover |
Scott Laughlin had a nice solution for this. Unfortunately he shutdown his
web site, but maybe he'll comment on this thread...
Carlos
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| Subject: | RE: 601 to 650....is it worth it responses |
Hello Listers !
Thank you to everyone who responded...I can always count on all you guys for thoughtful
responses.
I really like the 650 canopy..even though it is a more difficult build.? I'm hesitant
to rework the baggage compartment to 650 specs, but the complexity of the
601 compound curves really have me thinking about it !
And the resale issue makes me want to name it 611-650...or something like that
!
Thank you again !!
Tracy Smith
Naugatuck, CT
601XL working on wings
N458XL (reserved)
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| Subject: | Re: Top skin rollover |
To minimize the dreaded "buckled edge" on the roll over: double the rivets along
the edge, ie. every 25 mm, and cut the edge distance to 7mm. Use a rubber
or plastic hammer and go slowly. (picture attached)
This same philosophy works at the longeron as well.
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Mike Miller @ millrml@aol.com
601 XL, 3300, Dynon
Remember, "the second mouse gets the cheese"!
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| Subject: | Re: Top skin rollover |
To minimize the dreaded "buckled edge" on the roll over: double the rivets along
the edge, ie. every 25 mm, and cut the edge distance to 7mm. Use a rubber
or plastic hammer and go slowly. (picture attached)
This same philosophy works at the longeron as well.
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Mike Miller @ millrml@aol.com
601 XL, 3300, Dynon
Remember, "the second mouse gets the cheese"!
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| Subject: | Re: RE: 601 to 650....is it worth it responses |
That compound curve is not that big a deal, it just takes patience.
Start with the minimum edge distance and work it a little at a time
with a wooden block or soft faced hammer. If you don't like the final
result, you can always cover it with a strip of leather or rubber trim.
On Aug 10, 2009, at 12:48 PM, crvsecretary@aol.com wrote:
> Hello Listers !
>
> Thank you to everyone who responded...I can always count on all you
> guys for thoughtful responses.
>
> I really like the 650 canopy..even though it is a more difficult
> build. I'm hesitant to rework the baggage compartment to 650 specs,
> but the complexity of the 601 compound curves really have me
> thinking about it !
>
> And the resale issue makes me want to name it 611-650...or something
> like that !
>
> Thank you again !!
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL,
RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
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| Subject: | Top skin rollover |
Thanks to all who responded to my question. Bob
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| Subject: | Chat Room Reminder |
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All,
-
I'm posting this on the-Aeroelectric list also but, seeing as a number of
us share this configuration, I thought I'd try my luck here too.
I have a 601XL/Corvair with the standard William Wynne configuration.- I
have the John Deere alternator and regulator plus the PMOV overvoltage unit
from B&C.- I feel confident that I have it wired correctly since I would
get 12V when I switched on the master, and then 14V when I switched on the
alternator and started the engine.- Recently I noticed my battery had a
low charge, and the voltmeter showed a flat 12V, even with the engine runni
ng.
I had the battery recharged and load tested (it was fine), and I tested the
alternator (around 40V ac on the two wires that lead to the regulator).-
The two wires that came out of the regulator and connected to the B&C capa
citor were showing just 0.05V or so when I connected each of them separatel
y through a voltmeter to a ground.-Clearly a problem.
So I bypassed the entire overvoltage setup and connected these tabs dirrect
ly to the system bus.- Now I get 14V when the engine is running.
I am at a loss to figure out where the problem is.- I believe it must be
somewhere in the B&C overvoltage system, but don't know where.- Fuses are
all ok.
-
Any ideas?
-
Gary
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With the OV circuit installed can you monitor the current flow in the lead
from the positive terminal capacitor to the "Normally Open" (NO) contact of
the relay? Was there 12 volts across the coil of the relay?
"The two wires that came out of the regulator and connected to the B&C
capacitor were showing just 0.05V or so when I connected each of them
separately through a voltmeter to a ground. Clearly a problem.
It may be this (from Mark Langford's site): "Subsequent tests have shown
that pulling the 12V wire off of terminal 5 will stop the dynamo from
charging"
http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/corvair/dynamo.html
-- Craig
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Thomas
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 2:15 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Overvoltage
All,
I'm posting this on the Aeroelectric list also but, seeing as a number of us
share this configuration, I thought I'd try my luck here too.
I have a 601XL/Corvair with the standard William Wynne configuration. I
have the John Deere alternator and regulator plus the PMOV overvoltage unit
from B&C. I feel confident that I have it wired correctly since I would get
12V when I switched on the master, and then 14V when I switched on the
alternator and started the engine. Recently I noticed my battery had a low
charge, and the voltmeter showed a flat 12V, even with the engine running.
I had the battery recharged and load tested (it was fine), and I tested the
alternator (around 40V ac on the two wires that lead to the regulator). The
two wires that came out of the regulator and connected to the B&C capacitor
were showing just 0.05V or so when I connected each of them separately
through a voltmeter to a ground. Clearly a problem.
So I bypassed the entire overvoltage setup and connected these tabs
dirrectly to the system bus. Now I get 14V when the engine is running.
I am at a loss to figure out where the problem is. I believe it must be
somewhere in the B&C overvoltage system, but don't know where. Fuses are
all ok.
Any ideas?
Gary
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| Subject: | centre wing, HD(S) question |
Hello, all
Did anybody bother to bend plate 6V11-4 to fit the curvature of the wing?
I see small gaps at the front and rear, something around 1.0 mm ... see
attached file...
Carlos
CH601-HD, plans
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| Subject: | Re: centre wing, HD(S) question |
Carlos:
Yes, I bent that plate. I supported the ends on a couple of pieces of
wood and bumped the middle (carefully) with a wood block and hammer.
Mine fits the contour perfectly.
I also bevelled the edges and put a generous radius on the corners.
George Swinford
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos Sa
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 3:59 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: centre wing, HD(S) question
Hello, all
Did anybody bother to bend plate 6V11-4 to fit the curvature of the
wing?
I see small gaps at the front and rear, something around 1.0 mm ...
see attached file...
Carlos
CH601-HD, plans
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| Subject: | Re: centre wing, HD(S) question |
I didn't bother, I figured the amount of A5 rivets in there would suck it tight,
and I was right. I'm sure it wouldn't hurt either way though. Good luck and
keep trucking along. I agree 100 percent with taking your time to round those
corners good and beveling, its smart structurally and that plate is pretty
visible, so make it look right.
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One Rivet at a Time!
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